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mantuu joining to cloud9 and -mantuu +woxic ISSAA & WOXIC BEST DUO
2020-09-19 19:36
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I aren't think that
2020-09-19 19:37
Europe BETONNecmi
Woxic and Issaa were two very good friends in the FPL. Then they invited woxic and issaa to hellreisers.
2020-09-19 19:54
yes this one is true but I are not think "mantuu joining to cloud9 and -mantuu +woxic"
2020-09-19 19:55
If they are the best duo, why can't they win shit during their time at HR
2020-09-19 19:37
United Kingdom zyrexxi
obviously because turkey + jordan are minority and the system is against them winning ofc they are like 100x better than s1mple electronic in prime
2020-09-19 19:39
angel is playing valorant bondik is in some t3 cis team deadfox is gone from the scene completely after hr sacked him
2020-09-19 19:41
They are all solid T2 players at that time
2020-09-19 19:55
>they are all >at that time IN THE SAME SENTENCE
2020-09-19 19:57
2020-09-19 20:43
Bad englando
2020-09-23 17:02
if deadfox was a solid t2 player why didnt anybody pick him up after hr?
2020-09-19 21:39
Because he is not longer a T2 player when he was kicked by HR?
2020-09-19 22:12
so he dropped from t2 player to t99 in few months??
2020-09-20 08:56
Obviously everyone from HR does not belong to T2 before they got remove
2020-09-20 15:26
but they couldnt even find t4 teams?? dude can you see how bs you are talking...
2020-09-20 18:11
How can a T4 team afford their buyout and salary LOL
2020-09-22 15:30
deadfox’s contract was terminated this is like 5th time you are spewinf bs lmfao
2020-09-23 05:57
Ok, whatever, I am sorry then
2020-09-23 16:15
syrsoN | 
Turkey sedo7
no ty
2020-09-19 19:37
rain | 
United Kingdom naica
mantuu isnt joining c9
2020-09-19 19:37 HenryG - "this is my final UK announcement for the line-up"
2020-09-19 19:40
" 🔹Transfer Fee: $83,000 🔹3 year Salary: $426,000" considering how much cheaper than alex this is, mezill is probably much more experimental and more likely to be benched if he plays poorly
2020-09-19 19:41
He's not, Henry has him well in his plans.
2020-09-19 19:50
He can call it whatever he wants, doesn't change the immense disparity in price and payment between alex and mezii. It's like saying that though he is valued, that value isnt anywhere close to what many professional players make or what even his teammate alex will make
2020-09-19 19:51
Denmark dyinbyran
Cause alex was already called one of the best igls (during 2019 vitality streak) and also he has proved that he can perform in tier 1, so how can you expect a new kid to get the same salary as alex?
2020-09-19 19:53
the same way complexity paid their players similarly high amounts so that they would feel equally motivated
2020-09-19 19:54
Denmark dyinbyran
Whats your source that everyone there gets the same salary? Also theyre different orgs, its each org's wish so you cant really blame c9 for not doing it cause ever since 2018 they tried different things and c9 sucked, so maybe they arent willing to invest like col did
2020-09-19 20:02
Thought it was common knowledge that their salaries are relatively similar, doubt there is any proof to disprove that claim Org doesn't matter when we are talking about salary xd If one player has received more than 1 million in accommodations to acquire their services while another player only receives 400k in 3 years, I think the difference between those two players is defined by this immense gap. HenryG can say that they are equal, but in actuality that obviously is not the case -- mezii is an expendable player that will be the first to go if any issues arise within the team's results.
2020-09-19 20:19
Denmark dyinbyran
"Thought it was common knowledge that their salaries are relatively similar, doubt there is any proof to disprove that claim" No it isnt lol, earlier you said their salaries are same, now "similar". So youre just making shit up
2020-09-19 20:19
why are you deferring to some straw man argument? Because you know that your main claim has been dismantled at this point? Believe me or don't, it doesn't change the clear disparity between almost 2 million vs 400k
2020-09-19 20:21
Denmark dyinbyran
"why are you deferring to some straw man argument?" how is it straw man? Your initial point to justify that mezii should get as much as alex was dragging in col for no reason and when you cant prove your claim, its a strawman argument? Hypocrite?
2020-09-19 20:22
? what lol maybe you don't know what a straw man is xd
2020-09-19 20:23
Denmark dyinbyran
I do understand, but: "A straw man fallacy occurs when someone takes another person's argument or point, distorts it or exaggerates it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacks the extreme distortion, as if that is really the claim the first person is making." How am i doing this? I just asked proof dude and you couldnt so how am i supposed to believe you when your source is Trust me bro"?
2020-09-19 20:25
Your exaggeration is my mention of "same" and "similar", this is a miniscule detail that does not mean much in reality. Their salaries, being the "same" or "similar" ends up surmounting a minimal gap far less than the difference between 400k and 1.8 million Rather than continuing the argument regarding player worth in c9, you change the subject to my difference in wording, but that does not relate to the main subject of the argument.
2020-09-19 20:28
Denmark dyinbyran
"Your exaggeration is my mention of "same" and "similar", this is a miniscule detail that does not mean much in reality." I said that because I actually trusted your words like an idiot that the player salaries were revealed then i realised that it wasnt possible, so when i asked you for proof you changed your wordings and also called that its "common knowledge" that col players are getting similar/same salaries but idk how that is common knowledge, care to explain? "Rather than continuing the argument regarding player worth in c9, you change the subject to my difference in wording, but that does not relate to the main subject of the argument." Cause i already shared my opinion on that? Why the fk would c9 pay the same amount of salary to a new guy and also to a player who has proved himself to the entire scene?
2020-09-19 20:34
maybe you don't realize it but again you are targeting this straw man... it isn't worth arguing with someone that clearly isn't educated
2020-09-19 20:32
Denmark dyinbyran
You're the one who is retar**** one here dude cause i already explained why alex is getting paid more and your argument that he shouldn't be was that col players get similar salaries and when it's false, I'm the uneducated one? How two faced are you, reta**?
2020-09-19 20:33
Thats a false equivalency tho, no 2 players on CoL with an experience difference equal to Alex and Mezil. And pretty sure its common knowledge that BlameF is the highest paid player on the team which by your logic should cause disdain in the team for players like k0nfig who has been considered a top player for longer but wasn't as hot when the deals were made. But obviously it hasnt because smart players understand their value
2020-09-22 15:37
Serbia hltvmens
henry said in the stream that players need to realize they arent worth the same. mezii is nowhere near alex, and everybody knows that
2020-09-19 20:10
The thing with complexity is that their players already have some experience in the biggest stage, even 3 or 4 of them already attend a major? While mezii literally an upcoming talent
2020-09-19 20:30
Also the "valued" he's talking about was that he got the contract as a main player, not benchwarmer or sibtitute like for example, Bymas who Mouz only needed when they badly need it
2020-09-19 20:33
You are so dumb. Of course the value of an up and coming rifler/support is going to be different to a tier 1 IGL.
2020-09-19 20:21
But 10k a month is still pretty good for a Young talent
2020-09-20 15:33
yeah but mantuu is polish, so not UK announcement :=)
2020-09-19 19:58
no ty
2020-09-19 19:52
woxic should retire No place in t1 for toxic players
2020-09-19 19:55
Where do you know it's toxic from? Or did you go to bed?
2020-09-23 17:00
Turkish kebab... Mousesport organisation said that they bench woxic because of BAD ATTITUDE. Toxic = bad attitude. How my bed can be toxic? Why you say "it's" for Woxic? He's not 'it'
2020-09-23 20:01
OG Woxic naaah.
2020-09-19 19:56
Ty, but no.
2020-09-19 19:57
Estonia Sn4pzhat
please no
2020-09-19 20:22
Europe Cirros_V2
nbk and issaa are trash. Both should be kicked. Don't waste woxic potential adding him to this trash lineup
2020-09-19 20:45
Turkey ulkats
cloud9 gg
2020-09-19 21:40
Sweden Lagge15
Checking the time of OP... made after C9 said they won't bring in any more UK players. Before posting at least try to read something relevant to what you're posting... then you won't sound like a moron
2020-09-20 15:34
Europe H1P_STER
nt kebabo
2020-09-22 15:31
Would be cool to see for multiple reasons but i doubt it'll happen
2020-09-22 15:33
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
you have internet explorer? woxic already joined C9
2020-09-22 15:37
check when he posted
2020-09-23 16:25
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
09-22 woxic joined 09-19 :))) check when he joined C9
2020-09-23 16:27
it was announced a few hours afters after he posted
2020-09-23 16:28
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
omg this guy posted 09-22 woxic joined 3days ago check the
2020-09-23 16:35
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
19/9/2020 - 23:02
2020-09-23 16:35
Woxic toxic already in C9
2020-09-23 06:17
No Space soldiers Woxic
2020-09-23 16:20
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
space soldiers are disbanded :Dddd
2020-09-23 16:52
Lep | 
Turkey LEPP
omgggg rly
2020-09-23 20:05
Georgia SBC|SG_TS
No :d
2020-09-24 09:33
OK | 
United States Bioax
not age well
2020-09-23 16:55
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