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m249 needs update
Ivory Coast Ez4Olof 
it needs to more accurate like it is 5k but worse than negev
2020-09-20 12:23
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cs go needs update so we shouldnt watch ak vs m4 every match and pros should force to smg etc
2020-09-20 12:27
#6
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Asia loveall
pros do buy smg a lot
2020-09-20 12:31
yea but full buys are kinda always the same, ak/m4 + awp. Sometimes ct buy aug but that's it.
2020-09-20 12:46
Valve nerfed SG too strong
2020-09-20 12:51
i agree
2020-09-20 12:52
+1 Instead of making SG normal gun they just destroyed it
2020-09-20 12:54
they didn't destroy it, it's still semi-viable. It could be better if it's firerate was a little higher to not be the worst rifle there is, but it's not bad
2020-09-20 15:17
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Nepal askyee
its not worst gun but rn sg is worse than galil. no point to buy it unless ur holdin A on pit or sth like that. they should make sg equal to ak, not one >>>>>>> than other
2020-09-20 17:19
Idk how is it in higher ranks, im LEM and as a T i tend to buy it to peek hell. It kinda works there.
2020-09-21 13:06
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Nepal askyee
if u cant 1 tap everyone its not weapon for u. for example i prefer spray/burst so its not workin for me at all.
2020-09-21 16:15
its fun to use against slivers in dust 2
2020-09-21 16:16
Tbh I will never seriously even try to play anything other than ak, m4, awp, and deagle again, because of how valve handled sg. I played it for years, and then they decided that it needed a stupid buff. After a few iterations it's no longer usable. They won't dare messing with ak, m4a1s cannot be nerfed any further, awp is already nerfed, deagle has been virtually the same since several years ago
2020-09-20 14:08
smgs are used in fullbuys lol
2020-09-20 14:11
Not really, players still buy SMG's and shotguns sometimes in full buys
2020-09-20 15:05
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Brazil NIAMZWER
they should play mp9 on fullbuy, makes sense
2020-09-20 15:59
so what are you saying? you want 2000 dollar weapons to be as good a choice as 3000 dollar m4????? or are you saying you want to see m4+aug+auto+awp???
2020-09-21 03:30
#37
NiKo | 
Finland Eestu
I wouldn't really change anything since its working really well the way it is rn, but I get what you're trying to say. The idea that for example on T full buy rounds one guy buying an SMG as an entry fragger would actually be really cool. I don't really want to see just five guys full buying MAC-10 every round. but you get the point. A good balance between the guns would be nice.
2020-09-20 14:03
+1 This, would love to see SG being a sort of a role more than the sought after gun if price is no objection if it was made slightly more useful. Kind of AUG right now although not that many uses it but it's great on maps like Nuke (outside) and Train. But yea 1 awp, 1 SG and 3 AKs as a standard buy for most rounds, if they could achieve such a balance it would be great but I don't hold much faith in Valve being able to.
2020-09-20 14:22
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NiKo | 
Finland Eestu
Yeah that's something that I'd really like to see. I also hope that the heavy weapons and SMGs would be more useful in normal buy rounds.
2020-09-20 15:00
yeah, imagine pre-nerf SG but it cost like 4000.
2020-09-20 15:14
Who needs M4 or Ak when you have P90
2020-09-21 13:03
+1
2020-09-21 13:09
Play Valorant then
2020-09-21 13:09
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ropz | 
Netherlands ONGix
LOL 2nd tier fps game problems
2020-09-20 12:27
What is a tier 1 fps game according to you?
2020-09-20 13:31
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ropz | 
Netherlands ONGix
Valorant for example
2020-09-20 13:38
Valorant also just got two viable guns for full buys though, there is litterly no difference.
2020-09-20 13:55
Phantom, Vandal and OP are the general guns you buy on fullbuy Odin and Judge are good situational guns you can also buy on a full buy Marshal, spectre, bucky, stinger and ares are all viable for forces/half buys and every pistol is viable for pistol rounds and ecos. other than the guardian and maybe frenzy, i would probably end up buying every single gun in the game at least once if i played all 4 maps.
2020-09-20 15:17
Ak47,m4 and awp are the general guns you buy on fullbuy. However galil and famas are both acceptable during a full buy.* Aug and autoshotgun are good situational guns you can also buy on full buy. Scout, mac10, mag7, ump and mp7 are all viable for forces/half buys All pistols are viable for pistol rounds and ecos with the exception of duel berettas and revolver. (This still gives more options than what you have in valorant.) It is litterly almost the same thing and this argument is really, really stupid. There are fair argument to why one may prefer valorant over csgo, 128 tic vs 64 tic etc but this is not one of them. As csgo litterly provides you with more options and the average fullbuy in csgo is a LOT more varied than the counter part in Valorant.
2020-09-20 15:54
csgo has more useless guns than Valorant though which i think should be addressed, it's not about the already viable guns it's the ones that are absolute garbage, like the sawed off, krieg and m249. Buying any one of them is basically throwing at this point so i think they should be buffed or reworked so they see some actual play. my point wasn't that Valorant had MORE viable guns, it has less guns, but all of them are viable.
2020-09-21 02:38
You litterly said yourself that you rarely buy the guardian or even the frenzy yourself. Now I can argue that the sawed off and krieg both have their places, atleast the sawed off. Since csgo have a lot more guns there is bound to be some that are less viable. However I would argue that in a average game of csgo there are more viable options than in valorant. So what is the issue?
2020-09-21 13:01
#61
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Finland veganisti
Ak47,m4 and awp are the general guns you buy on fullbuy. Aug and autoshotgun are good situational guns you can also buy on full buy. Scout, mac10, mag7, ump and mp7 are all viable for forces/half buys All pistols are viable for pistol rounds and ecos with the exception of duel berettas and revolver. (This still gives more options than what you have in valorant.) It is litterly almost the same thing and this argument is really, really stupid. There are fair argument to why one may prefer valorant over csgo, 128 tic vs 64 tic etc but this is not one of them.
2020-09-20 15:55
Wow good points +1
2020-09-21 13:02
#68
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Brazil NIAMZWER
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-09-20 16:00
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Denmark Notallama
No.
2020-09-20 12:27
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Turkey Xetax
You're already running like pistol with an heavy weapon its good enough also 2nd choice is negev u may buy it if u want so theres np
2020-09-20 12:29
yeah, fuck the cheaters and shitty servers, let's update the m249! You'd be a great employee at valve
2020-09-20 12:30
let cheaters cheat then vac wave then let them cheat again ez money
2020-09-20 12:31
it could work if csgo wasn't f2p, now there's just no point in that
2020-09-20 12:34
shitton of cheaters in prime as well, esp. around LE-LEM
2020-09-20 15:35
get good
2020-09-22 17:38
throw in some new glove cases while you're at it, and maybe reposition the flower pots on all the maps
2020-09-20 12:32
+1
2020-09-20 12:34
+1 for the flower pots part
2020-09-20 13:25
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Asia loveall
just buy negev and go b
2020-09-20 12:31
#18
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Finland AleksiBOT
Imagine rushing with a negev xD
2020-09-20 12:48
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Asia loveall
nah actually opposite.. holding b as CT against rushing T
2020-09-20 13:23
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Finland AleksiBOT
Ez mouse1 spraydown lol
2020-09-20 13:24
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flusha | 
Europe e1z31
It's so stupid why it even exists in CSGO. It has absolutely no value when it's in the 5k price point. It would be so interesting if it were a viable option to use f.e. when holding down sites but valve is just too lazy to refine the meta
2020-09-20 12:33
valve refined meta with aug and sg but crybabies in hltv and pros ruined it
2020-09-20 12:35
I don't think they'd be as mad for non-scope weapons.
2020-09-20 12:43
Either it will be too weak and no one will use it or too strong and people will cry about it being OP, theres really no middle ground
2020-09-20 15:10
aug is kinda viable it's getting used sometimes but yea valve nerfed the sg way too hard
2020-09-20 12:48
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Cyprus Swishh_
+1
2020-09-20 12:57
Meta is fine; Or at least pro's are satisfied with it after Krieg/AUG nerf. Also if you want a 5k site holder, buy an auto on round 26 and don't give them a chance to figure out how to counter it.
2020-09-20 12:35
refine the meta? whenever valve has buffed some of the weapons they've demonstrated multiple times that the person doing it doesn't really play the game. deagle used to do 80+ dmg to the chest even if you had kevlar, glock burst was extremely accurate at long range, cz75 when it came out was just a pocket rifle, m4s1 was way too accurate, tec9 was superpowered, when the revolver came out? holy fucking shit. a rapid fire pistol that single shots even armored targets at close range? aHAHAHAHA i bet it looked really good on paper.
2020-09-20 13:38
no price buff + one hit kill to the head + detachable suppressor for smoke spam (tighter spray when no suppressor) + not retarded epilepsy spray = useful gun
2020-09-20 12:43
no it's actually better than the negev cuz the first bullet is 100% accurate so you can 1 tap
2020-09-20 13:24
lmfao best weapon
2020-09-20 13:27
List of weapons to update : M249 Sawed-off Dual Berretas Pp-bizon Mp5
2020-09-20 13:29
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Sweden quacke
How should they be improved?
2020-09-20 13:32
M249: reduce price for example Sawed off: increase distance from where you can kill someone Dualies: increase damage and accuracy Pp-bizon: improve damage Mp5: improve damage
2020-09-20 14:23
#69
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Sweden quacke
If you lower the price of the M249 too much it becomes overpowered. If you increase the effective range of the Sawed-Off you've just made a clone of the Nova. The Dualies are good because they have a large ammo reserve and a high firerate, as well as being fairly cheap. If you increase their damage you'll make them favorable over, for example, the Tec-9 and the Five-SeveN, which will make the Dualies overpowered in favor of other pistols. The Bizon has a similar advantage as the Dualies, a large clip size. It recently got it's armor penetration buffed which made it somewhat viable. It's fairly cheap and effective when used correctly. The only one I can agree on is the MP5 because it really doesn't fill much of a purpose in-game, even if you'd consider buying the MP5 the MP9 and UMP-45 are better choices, and imo even the Bizon. Most of these are down to the player not knowing how to use them properly rather than them being unviable. They are all very situational weapons that have a certain playstyle associated with them.
2020-09-20 16:00
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ropz | 
United States omaega
+1 what happened to syrsoN, quacke? is he no longer the best german? I almost didn't recognize you mens((((
2020-09-21 02:57
#86
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Sweden quacke
I was arguing aboit C9 with some dude so I changed my flair to annoying him. :P
2020-09-21 08:48
revolver should have double the ammunition. it's a shit meme weapon at this point now and i doubt if carrying capacity was doubled it would make any professional even consider it.
2020-09-20 13:39
right click accuracy should be improved maybe one kill to unarmored players
2020-09-20 13:59
yea right click is very bad. it should be at least as accurate as awp on right click, because right now it just doesnt make sense at all. it has worse spread than a shotgun.
2020-09-20 15:01
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Slovakia Daev0n
Sawed-off fix --> Add Cobblestone to the map pool.
2020-09-20 14:06
DUALIES DONT NEED FIX, THEY ARE GOOD WHEN YOU ARE AWPING TRUST ME
2020-09-20 15:57
but p250 is better for less money
2020-09-21 03:25
+1
2020-09-21 03:24
I actually suggest that valve revert the changes of the sg553 and AUG but in exchange make a price hike. (e.g $3400 and $3500 repsectively). Make M4A4 1 hit 1 kill in close range like Five Seven and tec9 and make M4A1-S 667RPM again. Make Bizon even more useful as a SMG.
2020-09-20 14:03
no
2020-09-20 15:57
y not?
2020-09-20 16:01
bcoz?
2020-09-20 16:01
Shotguns perhaps somewhat underutilised, works decent enough on close range, seen many Shotguns rekting players on Nuke but hardly anyone dares to pick them up as it's more situational typically, what if instead of all weapon types having this specific range of pricing, there would be significantly worse and better among its own types, like MAG-7 could be buffed and increased in price to be more among like M4a range or so for example.
2020-09-20 14:23
Mag 7 and XM can be used on almost all maps as CT people dont do it because they suck with them.
2020-09-22 17:35
I agree, it's the most useless gun in the game, the Negev is better for almost 3x less than it.
2020-09-20 15:04
IKR this gun makes zero sense. to people saying this is not important because it's a silver gun: it's a silver gun BECAUSE it's this useless (actually most silvers probably don't even use it bc the negev is €1700). sure, there are plenty of guns in CS:GO that are gimmicky and rarely used by pros. it's perfectly fine that they will go with AK/M4, AWP or SMG in 90% of cases. But at the very least, every gun has some gimmick/quality that can make it useful in certain scenarios, whereas the M249 is never - and i repeat, never - a good choice.
2020-09-20 15:11
We need a shotgun buff or update the only relevant shotgun is xm and nova
2020-09-20 15:11
-1
2020-09-20 15:36
-1
2020-09-20 15:57
-1
2020-09-21 03:23
#52
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Korea HullU
m249 is the best when ur at least 10 rounds ahead. kill someone and he'll rage quit
2020-09-20 15:12
lmao
2020-09-20 15:37
#77
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United States ekwi
Yep exactly! I'd argue it serves a clear purpose: to declare victory
2020-09-21 02:43
#78
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Korea HullU
yes, to show their full dominance over the other team
2020-09-21 02:57
It's first shot accuracy good :D
2020-09-20 15:13
No. its already good weapon why make it meta??
2020-09-20 15:56
m249 and negev now are troll guns,ppl use it when they are shitting on the other team 13-1 for example
2020-09-20 15:57
#73
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Nepal askyee
other than m249 they should buff sg and a1s again. I would love to play with old a1s as i used to play ;c
2020-09-20 17:24
u wot m249
2020-09-21 02:40
#76
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United States ekwi
Hear me out on this: the m249 serves one purpose and one purpose only: to declare that the game is over. You're up 15-2, you buy an M249. The distinctive rattle of the M249 lets the opponent know that they've lost. It's a shitty gun objectively, it costs too much for what it is, its spray is weird, it's like a < symbol at first then does weird things and it's hard to control. But that's ok. If you bought it, you're probably so much better than the enemy team that you're still going to win your last round with it.
2020-09-21 02:43
+1
2020-09-21 03:07
This is the point on CS:GO, it never changes. The buffs on dmg, weapon cost, and map changes are only superficial. It's boring to see a game that is pretty much the same since 1999, and almost exactly the same since 2012. They should rework the guns completely, adding new guns like P320, M16, Remington 870 MCS, FAL, SCAR-H, Vector, etc., and removing some of them
2020-09-21 03:45
+1
2020-09-22 17:19
They need to get phantom and vandal as alternatives to ak and m4
2020-09-22 17:39
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