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free of speech in hltv
Ivory Coast Ez4Olof 
how many % we allowed to speak freely in hltv i think %40
2020-09-20 15:23
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0 free speech if you aren't a leftie
2020-09-20 15:26
+1
2020-09-20 15:29
+1 like other big pages: "platform" if it comes to their rights, "private entity" when it comes to censorship
2020-09-20 15:50
+1
2020-09-20 16:01
nice name
2020-09-20 16:08
#151
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United States Thorolf
nice name
2020-09-21 20:28
+1
2020-09-20 16:35
+1 700 comments deleted in chaos blm shit #neverforget
2020-09-20 16:41
+1 never forget asked there why they don't support with money ongs that try to reduce black criminality or orgs that give actual training to police instead of doing a useless postponement that nobody would really care trying to surf in blm hype,got deleted and 3 day ban
2020-09-20 19:01
+1
2020-09-20 17:21
#77
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Bosnia and Herzegovina o_w_o
+1
2020-09-20 17:27
+1
2020-09-20 18:53
+1 got banned multiple times for spreading "homophobic" threads smh
2020-09-20 22:13
:letsfuckinggo:
2020-09-20 22:26
+1
2020-09-20 22:26
Right wingers being crybabies again. I see tons of rightwingers here that arent banned. They ban lefties and righties here and only 1 side is crying about it. I have 3 bans on my belt aswell for example. Its about what you say, not what political side you are on.
2020-09-21 14:55
0/8
2020-09-21 14:59
Good arguement as always ;D
2020-09-21 15:00
0/8 ppl get banned just for questioning blm riots here lmao,where this is free speech?never forget chaos blm hundreds of replies deleted
2020-09-21 20:23
Victim complex at its best. hltv.org/forums/threads/2351424/blm-cele.. This forum is full of people shitting on the protests. Thats why you find them in every thread over and over again. Funny how apparently they all get banned and yet they are still around with the same accounts. You probably just dont realize that mods sometimes delete threads that go out of hand instead of reading through everything. Ofc. some idiots that cross the line get banned, its not like literally calling for violence or being racist isnt against the rules. And again, this happens on both sides. "ppl get banned just for questioning blm riots" is a ridicolous statement, which is easy to debunk by the many people here that do exactly that and dont get banned.
2020-09-21 20:59
if it can really be debunked that ez explain the hundreds of replies deleted in chaos blm page,+ in this thread there are lots of baiters,and it was deserved tbh,they fucking burn,steal,kill ppl and you really think ppl wouldn't shit on them?ur very delusional if you think they are right doing those riots
2020-09-21 22:38
Okay, Im not interested in pivoting from the point, which is the bans. I really dont want to argue with you about morals. What exactly you mean by "chaos blm page"? And where is proof that anyone got banned just for disagreeing?
2020-09-21 22:40
here hltv.org/news/30201/esl-one-cologne-matc.. idk if you saw it but they really deleted hundreds of replies criticizing chaos and esl for not dqing them,as you can see in #60 and #97
2020-09-21 22:45
Random posts are no proof of anything. Lets go back to your statement: "0 free speech if you aren't a leftie" from there you went to "ppl get banned just for questioning blm riots" So, if that was a true statement, how come I can still find tons of people saying stuff like: "BLM/Antifa is a domestic far left terrorist organization. They are the Nazi brown coats of our generation." #735 "your only problem is these braindead people on streets who scream some bullshit and loot shops, making your country look way worse and weaker" #627 "The democratic media used BLM to start their antifa gang to destroy America with in to cause divide or Trump was gonna clean the floor with them. Fkn clueless sociopath leftest make me sick." #725 And thats just not even far into the whole thread. You also stated: "but they really deleted hundreds of replies criticizing chaos and esl for not dqing them" So again, why do I still find people that did that and arent banned? "but ESL's decision to postpone the match and not just disqualify CHAOS on this one is beyond stupid." #72 What I dont see are over the top comments of racism etc, so I assume those are the deleted ones, which again just shows that Im correct. The very thread you linked shows that people do not get banned just for the things you stated. If you want to show that im wrong and you are right, make a thread that includes the things, that according to you get you banned: "ppl get banned just for questioning blm riots" and "but they really deleted hundreds of replies criticizing chaos and esl for not dqing them". If you just question BLM riots and criticize ESL for not DQing them, you will not get banned. 100% sure about that.
2020-09-21 23:29
#148
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Brazil ZerongBr
just told the truth of all the internet
2020-09-21 18:47
+ A TRILLION
2020-09-22 16:09
404
2020-09-20 15:26
#9
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Freedom of speech is often abused and purposely breaks HLTV's rules, leading other users to think it's not allowed.
2020-09-20 15:30
yeah literally half of threads deleted so this is the reason i said %40
2020-09-20 15:37
+1
2020-09-20 16:15
i cant find the hltv rule that say that u cant be against "blm" for example, but +700 comments and hundreds of users banned for not supporting that
2020-09-20 16:42
#76
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India c0nsc10us
I hardly think they've been banned because they were specifically against the movement. I've made comments not supporting the movement and I've not been banned. The reason for the 700+ posts being removed has got more to do with the actual matter in those comments than the sentiment behind those comments.
2020-09-20 17:23
im agree that users banned probably were not respectfull at all. But i saw A LOT of discussions and respecful comments against the movement deleted. That is called censure.
2020-09-20 18:29
#91
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 HLTV respects others opinions but provided they are respectful opinions; it's the same philosophy I share. Generally when the discussion of BLM arises, comments are very nasty due to the controversial nature of the subject.
2020-09-20 18:49
#82 that was a reality, Tons of respectfull comments were banned and thats a fact
2020-09-20 19:18
You state it's fact but only according to you.
2020-09-20 23:34
lol everyone who checked the comment section could see that,. U are trying to hard to be a mod being a simp of admins
2020-09-21 14:57
Again, thus is evident only according to you... I respect your opinion. Have a good day.
2020-09-21 15:00
There is nothing like abuse of freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is absolute.
2020-09-20 18:54
+1
2020-09-20 19:00
+1
2020-09-21 14:58
If you want use your freedom of speech and 10 people stand next to you screaming over you, you will not be heard.
2020-09-21 14:58
Why would I want to be near those screaming idiots anyway? You will only be able to tell that they are stupid if you have freedom of speech, they can say garabage and you will at least know who you are dealing with.
2020-09-21 15:58
You 100% missed the point here. Obviously you dont want to be near them. But if they are near you whenever you want to use your freedom of speech, whats the solution? To just not be outside and voice your opinion? Its almost like their freedom of speech infringes on your freedom of speech, weird, right? Im arguing against what you said, that freedom of speech is "absolute", which is just a dumb thing to say. I can give you examples of how freedom of speech isnt absolute in no country in the world and I just showed you that even IF a place like that existed, it can still be infringed on, making it not absolute. You just dont seem to know what absolute means.
2020-09-21 16:06
Ok, I may have voiced myself incorrectly here. I believe that one person's freedom ends where another's begins so I understand your point, it was a simplified view of this subject due to the nature of the forum in which I was writing it, I rarely see people even paying attention what is written in those threads.
2020-09-21 18:39
So I guess we can agree that freedom of speech can be abused. I also think its important to recognize that freedom of speech is mostly important to minorities, in order for them to be heard. Majorities can easily "scream over" minorities. Further more, in my OPINION, using free speech to advocate for lies and spreading misinformation is also abusing it. I think its my freedom and everyone elses freedom to shut people up if they spread misinformation for example. Its dumb to just stand there and listen to people willingly spreading false information. But in the end its all a question of circumstances. Should an individual be allowed to express their opinion/thoughts, even its is wrong? Sure, freedom of speech. Should a person with a huge following be allowed to platform their beliefs, with the goal to spread misinformation? Surely not. Thats why I think its fine that HLTV, twitter or whatever company are totally fine to ban people.
2020-09-21 19:15
+1
2020-09-21 18:41
#14
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New Zealand rOtten_97
20% free speech is allowed. Even normal things that aren't offensive are being deleted every day, just like this thread will be
2020-09-20 15:42
+1 im waiting
2020-09-20 15:44
agreed especially if you create thread that criticises hltv slightly
2020-09-20 18:38
This is relatively non-oppresed site. so I'd say only about 20% of all knowledge is forbidden. Average site has almost 50% censored. News site comment sections are the worst. They are pretty much muted- close to 80% of comments are "too dangerous for democracy". On the other hand 9gag has just 10% muted and voat, 4chan and 8chan are close to 0%.
2020-09-20 15:48
Hate speech is not same as free speech
2020-09-20 15:49
What's hate speech?
2020-09-20 18:55
just dont say n word / be too offensive, like you would in real life, and thats how much free speech you get, dont even tweet on twitter though, saying the word retarded which wasnt bad up until 2020 is now the worst word ever, snowflake andys
2020-09-20 15:49
dude, that is not accurate at all. I have recieved plenty of bans for no reason at all. Saying a joke not offensive to anyone and all sort of things.
2020-09-20 15:50
you know what I mean
2020-09-20 15:51
no, what do you mean? people would laugh irl, here I get banned...
2020-09-20 15:52
being racist? what is wrong with you, dont be stupid, thats the #1 human rule
2020-09-20 15:53
what are you talking about? who is racist? You have a higher chance to not get banned if you behave very well but you can still get banned here. Its not like if you behave well you wont get banned.
2020-09-20 15:55
dude....... just dont say the n word and dont be offensive and ur all g
2020-09-20 16:00
#78
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Bosnia and Herzegovina o_w_o
cya when you get a 10 year for literally nothing
2020-09-20 17:28
Not being able to say somethings retarded is one of the most retarded things ive heard :()
2020-09-21 15:11
This is a website not a country. The admin decide what you can and can't say.
2020-09-20 15:51
+1 Smart user
2020-09-20 15:52
+1 nice flair, flag and name
2020-09-20 15:52
so? we cant have a conversation about it? would you support a dictator just because "he decides what we can and can't say or do"?
2020-09-20 15:58
We can have a conversation about it, but at the end of the day, this website is controlled by someone, and if they don't want something on their website, they can remove it. Also, HLTV admins have the power to ban you, a dictator has the power to send you to prison, torture and even execute you, not the same thing.
2020-09-20 16:06
yes, and if we discuss it the admins read it and hopefully realize they ban too much? maybe they will agree among them to re-evaluate how and why they ban and become more fair. That is how it works in a democracy you know, the citizens/community make their voices heard or protest to make change happen. Dont stand in the way of the community that want to improve a site they like. hltv is not perfect and the admins plays a part in it.
2020-09-20 16:11
Comparing hltv admins to dictators lmao
2020-09-20 16:30
no, I did not. Just applied his logic as a reference
2020-09-20 16:33
#45
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Websites function the same way everywhere in life functions, with rules and regulations. Making an account and opting to browse this website means you must accept the responsibility for your actions, just like everywhere else in the world... Cries of misconduct or power-hungry admins ruling the website with dictatorship is nothing more than your opinion and will be treated as such, obviously. Do you browse other websites besides HLTV?
2020-09-20 16:22
Uh was that meant for me?
2020-09-20 16:23
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
A reply to post #24 and in reference to post #38 (the dictatorship stuff). I was replying to clarify website moderation/administration and that not all of it is bad but I'm pretty sure I read your post wrong, so I do apologise if that was the case.
2020-09-20 16:27
+1
2020-09-20 16:30
0.1%
2020-09-20 16:01
Freedom of speech... either you have it or you don't. So no, we don't have it. Is that all bad? PROBABLY not. But where do we draw the line? That's the question. Obviously the admins rn have drawn that line pretty far over on the left - which I think is pretty bad.
2020-09-20 16:09
+1
2020-09-20 16:13
#92
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North America Swboy1010
+1 admins are too lazy to delete individual comments so delete the whole thread instead.
2020-09-20 18:52
#48
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Denmark Kon10R
Idiots shouldn't have any freedom of speech. Normal, friendly, decent people are welcome to express any opinion. Agreement is not part of the equation. You are not my enemy just because you think differently, but some people only go for calling each other "names" from the schoolyard, not to mention racist, nationalist or sexist madness. Some are just childish or foolish, which is cute, but idiots should be banned from the entire world.
2020-09-20 16:28
+1
2020-09-20 16:29
the problem is with definition of "being idiot" and who draws the line, this is so individual that its very often more dangerous silence "idiots" than let them to say whatever bullshit they want
2020-09-20 16:48
#65
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Denmark Kon10R
Yup. Just leave the reigns of the entire world to me !!! 🤣🤣
2020-09-20 16:53
I at least can rarely talk about anything
2020-09-20 16:33
Lol, there's no free speech here. This is not publis/government space
2020-09-20 16:36
0.69%
2020-09-20 16:38
You're allowed to talk about anything so long as you don't mention China, The Uighurs Genocide or Covid lab origins. Also don't think of criticizing the EU, Social Democracy or the leftist coallition of Spain.
2020-09-20 16:50
Do you mean 'mention' or 'fabricate conspiracy theories'?
2020-09-20 17:05
I mean copypasting a youtube video of a Wuhan lab worked explaining as much.
2020-09-20 17:40
fair point
2020-09-20 21:22
15%
2020-09-20 16:53
Obviously if you didn't observe political correctness then you are being 'offensive' like supporting 'All lives matter' instead of BLM. But if somebody are spreading hate towards countries like Russia and China maybe, then reporting them won't work at all cuz they're excersing their 'right of free speech'.
2020-09-20 16:59
most of the ALM threads ive seen are just thinly vailed race baiting, totally justified deletions imo
2020-09-22 16:06
This is not 4chan
2020-09-20 17:16
ye, 4chan users are so weird
2020-09-20 17:52
#81
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North America Shehp
lmao hltv and free speech, was that my cue to laugh?
2020-09-20 18:03
30% i think
2020-09-20 18:42
For a short amount of time, you have complete free speech. Then you get banned.
2020-09-20 18:47
90%. You can discuss more or less what you want, if you keep a decent tone. And yes, you CAN be critical of Trump or BLM for example, without resorting to hatespeak. So many people deliberately take the next step into hateful rhetoric and are of course deleted/banned.
2020-09-20 22:23
I speek freely i get bannend lulw
2020-09-21 11:14
100% unless ur a nazi be sensible
2020-09-21 15:14
Lol my thread about dark humor got deleted... And i asked jonathan E can i make dark humored jokes, he said no... He said no to a fucking jokes...
2020-09-21 16:09
lmao jonny.e madman
2020-09-22 15:57
#160
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Armenia Yerevan
Non-Existent
2020-09-22 16:03
its less free speech more like arbitrary gods striking people down at random aside from the obvious racism, if you're at all edgy you'll get banned all the time
2020-09-22 16:05
but if you play it safe, it's hard to get banned just not very fun(
2020-09-22 16:05
Im not allowed to insult users so its 0%
2020-09-22 16:06
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