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ELO HELL DOESN'T EXIST
SmithZz | 
Belgium Chuckyyyyy 
Having 26 avg kills doesn't mean you're better than the others, you should pay attention to your impact instead. "Bad teammates" can happen a few unlucky games but if you're still stuck at the same level after a long time, the problem might be you. It's literally impossible to be stuck when you keep having a positive impact. And of course toxicity doesn't help your mates play better.
2020-09-21 12:22
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#1
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Belgium ibuprofenia
Thank you chuckyyyyy
2020-09-21 12:23
#2
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Sweden botl0f
ok mr obvious
2020-09-21 12:24
Doesn't seem so obvious to the others... hltv.org/forums/threads/2360287/faceit-s..
2020-09-21 12:26
True
2020-09-21 12:26
#6
k1to | 
Austria eights
Amen brotha
2020-09-21 12:28
get under 4k behaviour score in dota2 and see how elo hell exist ^^
2020-09-21 12:31
In CSGO at least. The only unfair thing on faceit is winning 5x +5 elo then losing a -45 Happens a lot at 3k elo
2020-09-21 12:33
I won a whopping +1 elo in a game this week. :)
2020-09-21 14:11
me too, how does that shit happen
2020-09-21 23:19
I think because in my team we had 2x 3500 3x 2500 elo vs like 5x 2500 ish elo Sometimes the matchmaking is ass
2020-09-21 23:28
why would it bother u tho? like there is literally nothing to gain from going higher. 2.7 is the ecl legends minium and national leagues with fpl-c spots dont even require that right? not sure tho idc about pug leagues anyway
2020-09-21 15:08
I know, it's just a kind of personal accomplishment
2020-09-21 15:47
Well thing is - not many players can get 3k+ elo by soloQing, if you can it's a really big achievement and means that you are probably a really good player. Just losing in general doesn't feel too good, especially if you know you are doing everything to win, also once you reach 3.5k elo you may get spotted on the T3-4 scene IF you got there legit, because let me tell you, getting 3.5k elo by soloQing is one hell of a task. Most I was able to get was 3381 which is pretty good imo, but I'm not satisfied yet. I wanna get to 3.5k, only 3.1k rn tho :/
2020-09-21 16:04
u wont get laid at 3.5 either. better just get into a team and try to actually get better at the game if u have the drive to improve.
2020-09-21 16:23
getting better as a team =/= getting better individually FaceIT is the place where you should strive to improve individually, you won't get laid @ 3.5k of course not, but you will be among the best at that point.
2020-09-21 16:32
Not really. Sure you will improve your skill in pugs but playing in a team against a Team is so different it wont help u in any area but aim and movement
2020-09-22 01:45
dota2 its pretty much impossible to solo carry but csgo on the other hand, its more possible to solo carry on lower rank
2020-09-21 12:36
#42
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Austria SplasJ
+1
2020-09-21 14:28
did they really fuck it up that bad? played around 2.5k hours back in 2012-2014 and it was the ultimate carry game. u could win games even if 4 guys in ur team put rallypoint in enemy base
2020-09-21 15:10
kinda, yes. laning phase mostly ends at 10 minute and from thereon is only 4 or 5 man brawling and if ur carry is not present he will just get fkd up hard unless u create alot of space for him.
2020-09-21 18:54
sounds like the 3 lol games i ever played. anyway they lost me when i went to play one match in 2017, dominate my lane 1v2, beat the shit out of enemy carry and at 1hp he magically heals up to 100% from a well in the woods i didnt even know existed, literally left the game before i even died and never opened again. shit was crazy good in the early days tho, if it wasnt for the early TI's esports would be nowhere near what it is today.
2020-09-21 19:08
dota 2 hahaha, I checked it out and it looks stupid, no aim and you are spectating from above, so stupid
2020-09-21 15:07
+1 imagine if csgo had that, axaxaxxaxa
2020-09-21 15:09
Dont agree. You probably jsut have low elo OP in my opinion.
2020-09-21 12:32
3k elo
2020-09-21 12:35
+1
2020-09-21 12:36
Dont agree. You probably just have low elo imo.
2020-09-21 16:05
Agree. You probably just have high elo imo.
2020-09-21 16:33
Agreed.
2020-09-21 12:37
Toxicity doesn't lose games, bad players do.
2020-09-21 12:40
I know this bs
2020-09-21 12:43
toxicity makes the moral of the team goes significantly lower (and also losing rounds on top of that to make matters worse), and if there's a bad player in the team, does trash talking him really make him gonna play better? of course you can say where to smoke or where to go but just trash talking him because he's having a bad stats won't make him play better
2020-09-21 14:05
Newfag wtf
2020-09-21 15:12
wait what reference did i miss
2020-09-21 15:15
Bruno "BcKo" Bancić
2020-09-21 16:05
is he a newfag or are u the guy who has a need for validation from a random ruskie yelling in ingame voice chat. hard to say.
2020-09-21 19:11
Newfag wtf???
2020-09-21 19:23
spotted the newfag
2020-09-21 15:46
first time missing a reference, not bad for a newfag eh?
2020-09-21 16:10
what do you expect me to do, guys is bad, baiting every round, last alive, never win even 1x1, doesnt have a headphone, doesnt have a brain, you communicate to this motherfucker the exact position of the last two players, that by the way you heard spectating his screen( he didnt) he aims to the other side of the maps and turns his back to the 2 oponnents. should i compliment this motherfucker?
2020-09-21 20:14
no, if the player is *that* bad then trash talking him will just do more harm to yourself than the good, it'll just make you tilt so hard it affects how you perform too
2020-09-22 04:24
if i suffer in silence its worst.
2020-09-22 04:31
better than suffocating in your own words while the shit player already muted you
2020-09-22 04:32
he didnt tho, he replied.
2020-09-22 04:33
#39
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United Kingdom novaseer
Toxicity does lose games. When people are toxic, their teammates tilt, and when you're tilted you play worse. The games I win are the games where the team doesn't argue or tilt, and the games I lose are the games where they do. I imagine such a phenomenon is actually scientifically proven somewhere, if you go look for it.
2020-09-21 14:07
Newfag wtf
2020-09-21 15:12
#60
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United Kingdom novaseer
I've been playing since 2015. Just the account is new.
2020-09-21 15:20
well in general toxicity, drags the mood of the whole team down and therefor will lose u many games.
2020-09-21 14:35
#51
RpK | 
France pol44r
wtf all the idiots not having the reference XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-09-21 15:07
we all know that because everybody on hltv = global
2020-09-21 12:43
Global is still shit tho
2020-09-21 12:44
yea, but highest rank in the game.
2020-09-21 13:07
Yeah but I'm global and I don't always play particularly well... you don't have have to be crazy good But ofc I still have some very good games
2020-09-21 14:47
ELO hell does exist. Its abiyt the smurfs and cheaters and the overall lack of experience from your teammates and welcome to hell. That can happen in every competitive team based game. Eventually youll get unstuck at some point but till then ... patience. I want to add that the easier a game is the harder is to unstuck from elo hell. Games like Valorant, League or legends etc who are really casual friendly can be a nightmare if you stuck and you are unlucky with teammates.
2020-09-21 12:47
All these thing can't happen 24/7. It's just 2 or 3 games per week
2020-09-21 12:48
Yeah, but those 2-3 games where you keep opening sites with 2-3 kills and your team keeps losing while 4v2... They're tough. Gotta take a break after them or I end up uninstalling the game.
2020-09-21 12:54
So you are just sooo unlucky that you always get the shit teammates and the enemies are way better? Lmao
2020-09-22 01:47
Cant happen 24/7 but happen too often in lower ranks. Depends. A DMG wont have huge problems stack in silver for example even if his team is terrible. But a nova kind of player can stack in silver if he is unlucky. Ive seen that before. Same in faceit etc. But as i said CSGO has not the kind of hell elo other games having, like Valorant. A nightmare
2020-09-21 12:58
I'd say getting to level 10 is pretty doable solo and you shouldn't cry about teammates, sure you will have shit games with idiots but that happens here and there, if you keep playing you'll rank up but after that it becomes really hard and you actually need decent teammates.
2020-09-21 12:53
Exactly
2020-09-21 12:54
+1 If you're good enough It Will only take more or less time depending on your Lucky with teammates. After playing other platforms, went for solo q on faceit, in 3-4 weeks got lvl 10 with 68% winrate and 120-130 matches.
2020-09-21 15:58
wtf you made a thread because i write to you it's a reality to have bad team in lower lvls ?. Man you are schizophrenic? get a life or help
2020-09-21 12:56
Don't think everything works around you. The guy that cried about still being lvl 1 with 30 avg kills made me want to make a thread. Simple as that
2020-09-21 12:57
if you look on your link it's get you till my comment and i thought that. get help because you're retard
2020-09-21 12:58
Lmao, I see why you stuck in "elo hell".
2020-09-21 13:07
i am not stuck in elo hell i was just sayin to him that exist to get unlucky on free 5vs5 :) even in premium... he doesn't believe you can be stuck and that's why i told him this
2020-09-22 01:33
+1 that was a pathetic thread like 30 avg is even impressive vs lvl 1s lmaooo
2020-09-21 13:03
#29
sdy | 
Sweden god_sdy
Too many people don't understand this. Back in the days we used to 5 man stack but this game we were only 4 people so we played a queue anyway. We got some toxic ruski guy that got a ton of exit kills and unimportant kills. We still won the game fairly easy because us 4 maintained a strong backbone and made up for his mistakes through the entire game but if we lost a round it was instantly "cyka blyat noobs" "idiots". Whats funny is after we won the game we instantly requeued with our full squad and ended up playing the same guy again, this time with his 5 man stack. Same map. We beat the hell out of his sad squad and the guy just ended the game with "...". Beaten beyond recognition. Completely broken Moral of the story: You're not a god just because you manage to get some kills. We knew his playstyle and just read him like a book throughout the entire game, I think the guy bottomfragged pretty hard as well. So next time: stfu and play and don't complain about your teammates if they are trying their best by communicating and playing seriously.
2020-09-21 13:04
astralis level of tactics wow :O u 2 gud mens
2020-09-21 13:09
#33
sdy | 
Sweden god_sdy
nothing about us being good, but like Chuckyy stated a poor performance could be anything really. Team doesn't gel together, toxic environment, just a bad day in general. Think twice before calling out your teammates, thats all.
2020-09-21 13:11
Many people don't understand that everybody can have a bad game. For example, you played 4 maps and made 20+ in each game, but in your 5th match you can't frag and the guy who never played with you before flames you for being a "bad" player, even though he doesn't see how you're playing, what you're doing, how and why you're dying. People who you literally met 1st time instantly judge you by a single match and talk shit... sometimes not even by a whole match but by 5-6 rounds. This is so dumb.
2020-09-21 14:55
#34
OK | 
Peru airbIade
16avg excuses
2020-09-21 13:36
I soloQ every day and avg kill is a statistic that comes up 90% of the time true, usually when you have a teammate with 16 or 17 of avg kill, he's going bottom frag and that's the case. AVG kill says it all. A guy with 20 21 22 23 avg kill means that the person is in shape, on the other hand a guy with 27 25 26 avg kill means nothing indeed because you can't have 27 avg kill at 2800 elo or more unless you are semi pro or idk, in general these are new accounts with few matches all proud to have farmed their stats against low levels.
2020-09-21 13:59
frags are not the same as impact.
2020-09-21 14:35
but in pugs nobody plays a role where u have good impact with 10kills. unless u are running over the enemy ofc. thats just a fact coz even 3k elo hardly no1 bothers to set up flashes etc u really need to ask for them.
2020-09-21 15:18
I would say 10 kills is perfectly possible to have high impact, but for sure not 3 or 4 kills. Anyhow, there are key rounds in a game, and those are the most important. People getting frags that do not result in a win, or result in a less important win like eco rounds are important of course, but it's much easier than to be effective in key rounds.
2020-09-21 15:29
yes some rounds are in theory more important, but in pugs deags are even better than matches. and unless the 10kill guy in 16-14 match doesnt win 3 rounds for his team with utility then he probably wasnt impact player. like ye it's good to get that one 3k but in the end of the day u need 16 rounds to win.
2020-09-21 15:32
all I'm saying is frags are not the same as impact for instance, I had games wiith lower rank players when they only killed maybe 5-6 people, but in crucial moments, and that was enough for us to win
2020-09-21 16:38
yeah but the game only got in to those moments coz they didnt carry their weight. 5-6 frags is not enough to have anywhere near positive impact. not even if u are giving tactics, flashing for mates and holding a site that never sees action and give good info. unless u win 16-0 ofc.
2020-09-21 17:45
"because you can't have 27 avg kill at 2800 elo or more unless you are semi pro" why not lol?
2020-09-21 16:10
2020-09-21 16:10
yeah I realize that most high avg kill players have just boosted stats from playing with low lvls, whenever there is someone with high avg kills I check their recent matches to see whether that's the case but you can't say that you can't have 26+ avg kills at 2.8k+ elo unless you are a semipro, that's just straight up false
2020-09-21 16:12
I'm not necessarily talking about the Elo farmers who play against low levels by playing with friends level 5 or 6, I'm also talking about those who have few matches with recent accounts dating from 2018/2019, you know, the famous level 10 with 300 matches and 1. 70 K/D, the smurfs, the thing is that when you create a new account you are not directly level 10, you are first level 3, so by the time you get to level 10 with that new account they can easily have 25 or more avg kills against noobs, unlike a level 10 with 2500 or 3000 matches that has been level 10 for a long time.
2020-09-21 16:21
Ah I see what you mean now, yeah that's also a thing. But even then, you can still get 26+ avg kills while being a legit 3k elo without any issues even whilst soloQing even if you're not a semipro I personally have 1.1k matches as of right now, 3.1k elo, I soloQ 90% of the time, my highest elo was 3381 with 26 avg kills and 0.92 K/R, got 3.2k elo @ 700 matches. It's definitely possible to even get 30 avg kills, that's one of my goals.
2020-09-21 16:35
You must be very good so
2020-09-21 17:35
Well maybe, but I still don't think it's that hard, but thanks mens)
2020-09-21 21:45
OH YES IT DOES EXIST
2020-09-21 14:06
It does and I’m in it
2020-09-21 14:48
The only ''ELO hell '' that exists is between 2700-3400 ; since 2.7k players are more often that not just as good as 3.4k elo - but sometimes you can get unlucky with a ton of -48 games. winning 7 games losing one just to end up with less elo. But yeah under lv10 elo hell doesn't exist 4sure
2020-09-21 15:01
+1
2020-09-21 15:48
#49
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Germany _PH1L
*1 BUT IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET STUCK ::: BUDT U CAN GET UR WAY OUT AGAIN
2020-09-21 15:05
elo hell exists, but its because ur really bad or you have bad luck
2020-09-21 15:09
Well that's not elo hell if you're just bad
2020-09-21 15:49
#61
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Europe jigglepeek
never been in elo hell. always climbing than i stop to play lose my rank and i starts again. elo hell doesnt exist but toxic cs player.
2020-09-21 15:22
+1
2020-09-21 15:49
sometimes i feel like the games i contributed the most were the ones i ended with 16/22 or something.. i'm very happy to be the bait for competent trades and if this means it will grant us that region/site, i'm up for it.. If by round 10~15 i am the top fragger, which happens quite a lot, i KNOW the game is not good and my teammates are doing something very wrong. Only on rare ocasios my high frag comes with the right tactics. sometimes the opposing team just give it to you, okay, but this means that the game was shit
2020-09-21 15:29
sounds like u need to hit the dm. being moving decoy is hardly a impact role.
2020-09-21 15:37
not moving decoy entirely, but i'm the one who strafe and deal damages for others to know location and finish.. imagine a hit on b site inferno.. i'm the one who widestrafes to the site and gives position for others... yesterday i finished 20/22 with 100+ adr.. on retakes, im the one who scouts for information, etc.. i see why you said this tho, i feel im not quite being able to say what i want hehee
2020-09-21 16:06
sounds like u do gods work on the server but if u expect to be negative kd u just suck at aiming ngl.
2020-09-21 16:20
i don't expect to, but i understand the pattern when it happens. i actually have a decent kd (1.35), this case i described is if course exclusevily for "close, competetive" matches, it does not work like that on blow outs (winning or losing) but yeah, i don't really rely on my aim too much. I know this is not one of my main forces so i try to compensate with positioning and lots of utility
2020-09-21 16:23
#66
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Latvia Andreyq
i just left faceit, faceit is good for 3k+ elo players cancer for 2500 and lower
2020-09-21 15:44
3 out of 4 games at 3k elo in premium are actually nice
2020-09-21 15:52
#73
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Latvia Andreyq
yeah cuz most of the players @3k elo plays serious with attitude, <2.5k you can meet trolls, new accounts, ragers and shit
2020-09-21 15:53
#75
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Australia kaos0002
if those kids could read they'd be very upset
2020-09-21 15:58
xd
2020-09-21 16:06
I am professional camper
2020-09-21 16:05
cod player?
2020-09-21 16:14
nope, just bad
2020-09-21 16:17
I think it does exist but 90% of people who think they are in elo hell aren't and are just shit. Especially in csgo there's much more to it than just kills. Back in the day when I used to play overwatch I was hardstuck in gold at around 2300 and couldn't get out. I made a new account and got ranked in high diamond instantly and was able to stay there. But especially in csgo elo hell is very rare and if you're argument is that you get 25+ frags every game you probably aren't in elo hell and don't really understand how the game works because the number of kills is only one variable of many that determine how good you are.
2020-09-21 16:22
Agreed. I identified 2 elo hells on faceit so far, being lvl 3-4 and lvl 6-7. On 3-4 you're constantly being matched with new accounts that could be either a silver or a global, on one match you play with or against gods and the other with or against silver. Once you get out, lvl 7 is usally where you have lots of boosted motherfuckers and gods soloqueing.. very weird matches.
2020-09-21 16:28
Nah the real elo hell is when you hit the 3k elo, only +10 matches and -40 or -35
2020-09-23 09:35
I don't understand how can people think that they are good when getting 25 kills while just staying in 1 place like a fucking idiot and baiting everyone. If you are not going for picks, you are stuck in an elo hell because you are so fucking stupid that you make yourself lose against worse players.
2020-09-21 16:31
I'm toxic, but that's the way I enjoy this game. Getting super high level doesn't pay any bills, so why bother. Play it the way you enjoy.
2020-09-21 16:33
Please don't come on Faceit, stay on MM
2020-09-21 18:36
OK how about me who averages 25-35 kills depending on match length, but only plays with my friends, a couple of whom routinely get single digit kills in 25+ rounds?
2020-09-21 19:15
stop playing with lvl 2 friends then
2020-09-21 23:17
the times I tried solo queueing people get at least 10 kills but are all retarded
2020-09-21 23:28
yes and your friends are even more retarded so choose.
2020-09-22 01:43
#109
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Spain Kaessar
facts
2020-09-21 19:21
i changed my sens yesterday and now had a negative k/d for the third match in a row. Idk how to fix it but I don't want to go back to the old one 😕
2020-09-21 23:36
Well seems normal to me, there's a time of adaptation
2020-09-25 07:47
Elo hell doesnt exist, yet you can get unlucky with some teams some days
2020-09-22 01:43
+1
2020-09-23 20:09
so it took you this long to figure that out?
2020-09-22 02:02
People can still be "better" than their rank while losing but it means theyre doing something wrong that they need to fix. So yeah if you can top frag every game then thats good but try to translate the kills into more meaningful kills
2020-09-23 09:41
+1
2020-09-24 13:32
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