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OG never gonna be top 10 or better team.
Finland Habalabachoochoo 
They cant be best team with average players, issaa not too good, nbk bot, valde inconsistent bot, mantuu still ? on lan, aleksib good igl but team full of mediocre players, disband please.
2020-09-21 21:05
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ENCE never gonna be relevant
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Australia mates))
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-1 they are through, og not LOL fucking bots
2020-09-21 21:13
ENCE went 0-4 on LAN OG went 3-4 on LAN
2020-09-21 21:17
British scene lmao
2020-09-22 11:16
China hygiene lmfao
2020-09-22 12:41
2020-09-22 12:42
nigeria and china hygiene lmfao
2020-09-22 14:23
what u want finlandistan KEK 5 years before russia annex u again kekekekkeek
2020-09-22 14:43
in english?
2020-09-22 15:01
what u want finlandistan KEK 5 years before russia annex u again kekekekkeek
2020-09-22 15:12
lol typical nigerian
2020-09-22 15:48
what did you just call me?
2020-09-22 15:58
2020-09-22 16:06
reported for racism
2020-09-22 16:49
why? you have Nigerian flag. Nigerians or the Nigerian people are citizens of Nigeria or people with ancestry from Nigeria.
2020-09-22 16:50
WTF STOP RACISM its not okay to use that word
2020-09-22 16:50
lol, stop then using that ugly flag !
2020-09-22 16:53
racista come to brazil
2020-09-22 16:54
no, never gonna step in 7th world poor slum country
2020-09-22 16:56
your hore mother step here everyday to fuck some big black cooks and you don't say nothing
2020-09-22 17:21
xd i know you are baiting but thats hilarious xd
2020-09-22 17:23
who asked you anything budget russia
2020-09-22 17:24
who asked you anything not budget anything cuz you live in jungle full of slums
2020-09-22 17:25
you live in a fucking iglu masturbating yourself because if you go outside of your house you gonna be freeze alive fat asshole kid
2020-09-22 17:27
first you said that i live in iglu and then in house :Ddd
2020-09-22 17:28
if you don't have an brain let me teach you that an iglu can be your house nice interpretation asshole vittu sinä kusipää
2020-09-22 17:30
well im not living in iglu, and i think like 0.0001% of finnish people are. or not even that. You are mix up Finland and Grönland
2020-09-22 17:32
who cares your annoying as fuck and say things you don't know
2020-09-22 17:38
reported ! this site is only english site
2020-09-22 17:37
2020-09-22 17:38
lol, you got scared and edited your reply
2020-09-22 17:56
I'll beat you up
2020-09-22 18:08
would love to see that
2020-09-22 20:08
i love it when the comments become unreadable
2020-09-27 12:30
Europe PiapA
l o l
2020-09-27 12:48
Finland FlNLAND
l m a o
2020-09-27 13:05
Europe PiapA
2020-09-27 14:01
i think 0 since we dont have glaciers. maybe some minor areas with snow that lasts summer, but thats not enough.
2020-09-23 09:46
i wouldnt call brazil even a country, i think its more like a jungle than country
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Romania bblbsc
lmao this guy is so fucking brain damaged how the fuck is saying the name of a country racist?
2020-09-23 09:58
2020-09-23 10:05
another racista spotted
2020-09-23 10:50
Romania bblbsc
bruh there is a difference between the n-word and Nigeria.
2020-09-27 12:12
2020-09-27 12:57
okay nigerian
2020-09-27 12:26
Reported RACIST come to brazil
2020-09-27 12:57
South Africa @FyreCS
2020-09-23 04:03
LOL name checks out good 1
2020-09-22 14:27
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India aR__
2020-09-22 16:51
Chinese Quality of Life LMAO
2020-09-22 17:19
I think we ain't in that position to talk about quality of life here
2020-09-27 12:27
Cya when cloud9 gets top 10
2020-09-23 10:14
Ence hasn't played a single map on LAN with their current lineup
2020-09-22 17:29
Their core has.
2020-09-22 17:31
Same core =/= same team
2020-09-22 18:05
OG are #7 team in europe #11 in the world
2020-09-21 21:53
considering that the na teams can farm ranking points on lesser competition they could very well be in top10, obvsly impossible to say in current situation.
2020-09-22 12:53
Finland JooonsMO
online cs not real cs
2020-09-22 15:07
2020-09-22 17:23
and next big lan date was?
2020-09-23 03:51
Finland JooonsMO
Doesn't matter. This is just a phase. You can talk about teams online performance but don't say that teams are as good as they are on online.
2020-09-23 11:49
also the bots that just embarrassed ence by 16-4ing them to end the series? OG 4-1 ENCE
2020-09-21 21:55
OG rank 11 ENCE rank 18 OG gaining points ENCE losing points Yeah. :D
2020-09-22 15:36
Both teams are weak
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Serbia LtN))
2020-09-22 11:15
United Kingdom sufyy
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+1 just to trigger the fish eater
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Russia powforce_
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Finland OldStager
2020-09-27 13:05
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ISSAA one of the most underrated players NBK- good on his day, probably the only kind of weak link on OG Mantuu massive potential for an already good AWP Valde solid rifler, good player to fall back on AleksiB good IGL and team leader in conclusion you are wrong
2020-09-21 21:09
The problem lies in the absence of a star rifler
2020-09-21 21:38
would -NBK +Elec work? i’m not really sure if the roles match or if Elec can speak English, could be possible but something along those lines could work wonders for OG
2020-09-21 21:51
navi wont let elec go, i was thinking that ropz would be a good addition to the team
2020-09-21 21:53
i was thinking Ropz but mouz would probably never let him go, maybe Hunter? or NiKo? both are probably available
2020-09-21 21:59
niko already said he doesnt like aleksib and i dont think they would want toxic niko. i also dont think hunter would leave g2 but maybe OG could just win some more shit in dota and buy a star player for csgo
2020-09-21 22:01
yeah it’s not like they are lacking funds, i also see what you mean by NiKo, if he does join G2 hunter will be off the table too unfortunately, maybe elige if he wants to leave NA but he probably likes his teammates too much, maybe tho
2020-09-21 22:19
when did he say that he doesnt like aleksib? link?
2020-09-22 11:17
i dont have it its from when ence dropped aleksi, he talked to allu (lmao) to see if they should get aleksi and allu shit talked aleksi so they didnt
2020-09-22 14:54
Finland Slyp3
In that article he just said "they didnt believe AleksiB would be a great fit for the team", nothing about disliking AleksiB personally.
2020-09-22 15:08
nothing u've said is true...
2020-09-23 11:00
Finland Slyp3
Source for that comment lol
2020-09-22 14:54
2020-09-22 14:59
how is hunter available?
2020-09-22 09:21
G2 probably open to offers since they want to sign NiKo
2020-09-22 11:04
no way that they would want to get rid of hunter bcs it just doesnt make sense. they would rather kick amanek or jackz but surely not hunter
2020-09-22 11:05
i was more thinking NiKo when i said both are probably available, now i look back Hunter probably wouldn’t be available, good point, i think the problem is with Aleksi is he gets the best out of worse players (Ence, Mantuu) so a star rifler wouldnt really work under his leadership, maybe they could tho
2020-09-22 11:11
i surely agree with that. og would really benefit from strong consistent rifler... but imo even niko is out of question. im pretty sure that he will rather join g2 than og bcs of potential of g2 and bcs of hunter but time will tell.
2020-09-22 11:13
elec not a star rifler.....
2020-09-22 06:22
he is?
2020-09-22 11:04
he playing like fckin bot lately, all on s1mple
2020-09-22 12:29
he seems to be better in more of a LAN environment, and i think this thread is about OG on LAN so it makes sense
2020-09-22 12:43
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Finland eIe
Ofc he is
2020-09-22 11:10
Finland Sorsa
I was thinking maybe + zehn or ottond - nbk. They are not the "star" riflers but have potential. I don't believe og will find the big star rifler they need, so they have to find and make one by themselves. :/ don't take this comment too seriously, I'm just Finnish fanboi :))
2020-09-22 12:58
you are 100% correct tho, aleksi is great at making bad/average players good and that’s his IGLing style as i said in #75, a player such as sergei could work really well for them
2020-09-22 13:18
-BotB +Zehn is a good option tho Idk what to say abou Shipz,i think it wont make a big diff!
2020-09-22 18:04
North America Straf3R
eh, not too many solid entry layers, id keep NBK
2020-09-22 15:15
i think sergej was on godmode under aleksib and playing mostly rifle. though aleksiB was baiting for him. valde could probably grow to the spot of star riffler, remember how he used to carry North. Maybe gameplan needs to be adjusted for that to happen.
2020-09-23 09:55
they need an star ,one player who can play good ''all matches'' ,another one cosistent rifler like valde cuz nbk and issaa are inconsistent
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Finland JooonsMO
There is nothing wrong about those individual players but them as team is different thing. I dont think they can really be top10 team in world.
2020-09-22 15:09
Give them some time. I think they will win a big event soon.
2020-09-21 21:10
Give them some time? LOL how much more
2020-09-21 21:13
how much time until Ence win an event without Aleksi? oh wait, they wont
2020-09-21 21:36
Who talked about ence tho?
2020-09-23 04:19
i’m just pressing his buttons because he’s being dumb
2020-09-23 09:40
they are #7 in europe BTW
2020-09-21 21:53
Finland BlasuS
Stop acting like we have not gave ence a fucking year and still nothing
2020-09-22 11:16
Finland Khroni
I think that OG have potential to make it far again like they did css6 but to win they honestly need some miracles I don't see them wining astralis or Heroic anytime soon who should make semis or finals at least
2020-09-22 02:15
gotta love hltv. one week ago heroic was the underdog that defied all the odds winning few matches vs established household names after player break and now they are unbeatable XD
2020-09-22 12:59
Finland Khroni
heroic have been looking decent for a while now they were close to making the semi final in cs summit6 3 months ago which was their first real event since ICE its just that they played few higher tier events i dont think that they are unbeatable but they look strong and should be a semi/final contender
2020-09-22 13:21
yeah i agree. but one of the recent tournaments i literally had like 20messages battles here ppl trying to convince me that heroic beating g2 was biggest fluke in csgo history. tbh after the last flashpoint it was clear cadian is gonna make it soon if he ever will.
2020-09-22 13:28
Finland Khroni
its not even hard to beat g2 tho OG would have done it more often than not if they just stopped choking 14-x leads
2020-09-22 14:08
they are doing good, they are obviusly not tier S players but the keep improving every day, if they struggle to become a solid top 10 in the next few months i will try to change just one player to trying to find the missing piece
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North America 007DBR9
flair checks out xaxaxaxaxa
2020-09-21 21:15
Hungary Rollie
wdym Valde-Superstar potential, he's getting really crucial to this team, almost always top fragging Mantuu- Full of potential, smart awper Aleksi-Amazing IGL with some decent fragging strength ISSAA-I'd drop him tbh, too inconsistent NBK- I'm one of those who believe that he's essential to the team, he plays the hard positions, amazing support and he's able to pull off some great performances, people give him too much stick
2020-09-21 21:17
The thing with NBK is, and always has been, that he's mostly great at his role but occationally he pulls some truly stupid plays and when it doesn't work people remember those moments and nothing else.
2020-09-22 06:20
This! -ISSAA +ropz = U've got a great team
2020-09-22 10:34
nice head to head vs ence
2020-09-21 21:25
They're always improving and I think they have potential to be tier 1 team without roster change Will always be better than ENCE tho
2020-09-21 21:38
I wouldn't say Valde and NBK are straight up bots but NBK is surely really inconsistent, issa is just bipolar at this point, not sure how they can fix the roster though, they probably dont have the funds for any huge buyouts.
2020-09-21 21:38
Finland Khroni
It's OG they should be rich af I just don't think they will make changes when it's online and they still show potential to break top10 Especially with few available players on the market right now
2020-09-22 02:16
Andorra BENZ1N3RA
ISSAA actually good
2020-09-21 21:41
More like aleksib bad igl
2020-09-21 21:43
Finland kkd69
na brain
2020-09-22 02:31
flag checks out. truth hurts
2020-09-22 02:32
Finland kkd69
col offered 500k to aleksi before blamef, bad igl indeed
2020-09-22 02:34
blamef better igl. better body and stats
2020-09-22 02:35
Europe X1gma
2020-09-22 07:25
Nice burger brain
2020-09-23 04:25
nifty is somehow better kkkkkk
2020-09-23 09:46
i agree
2020-09-23 15:51
better than ence ever will
2020-09-21 21:54
Im just waiting for the day when ence drops out of top 30, one less fluke team in the top 30 after that
2020-09-22 02:17
ISSAA underrated af, all the praise going to mantu/valde for some reason If u watch og games, you would see that he is doing his role perfectly, Entryfragging / lukring, Also he has been carrying lately
2020-09-22 02:18
issaa is like the amanek of og
2020-09-23 09:46
issaa actually has a star role so no not really
2020-09-23 10:13
I wouldnt consider entry fragger a star role but ok
2020-09-23 20:55
still better than ence imo. and for those people who think OG need to change someone, they're not gonna do it. at least until LAN comes back. this team proves can do a lot in LAN even tho its only BLAST, and its only less than 3 month for them. also OG not the kind of org that easily change their players just because a few bad performances. they have faith in their players. #DreamOG
2020-09-22 02:30
Who said that they'll be the best team? No one is better right now than Vitality or Astralis.
2020-09-22 05:36
+ Habalabachoochoo -NBK
2020-09-22 06:04
2020-09-22 17:32
-nbk +coldzera niko to g2
2020-09-22 06:19
Imagine replacing support with lurker
2020-09-22 06:22
someone else takes the role support if this trash team want to be something they need a star player like coldzera
2020-09-22 06:32
Who? mantuu - AWPer valde - lurker ISSAA - entry fragger Aleksib - already support + IGL No one of them can become second support. And let's be honest, cold not as good as he was. At least he isn't looking good in FaZe.
2020-09-22 06:44
With baiter
2020-09-22 09:25
Well, every lurker is baiter in more or less degree.
2020-09-22 09:27
nbk plays lurker role
2020-09-23 11:06
NBK- is support, lol v4lde is lurker. OG roles rn: NBK-: support + second caller Aleksib: IGL + support + second AWP on CT side ISSAA: entry fragger mantuu: main AWPer + star player valde: lurker
2020-09-23 12:11
nbk is lurker watch mini map. which support player plays b lurk on dust2???
2020-09-23 12:17
Look at NBK- position on B plant. He's stay in shit position in a front, while ISSAA stays on safe position.
2020-09-23 12:24
Expected from BR. Nice favela brain
2020-09-23 04:27
Ence fans mad af lmao
2020-09-22 06:56
If they moved to America they could make top 10 farming na cs
2020-09-22 07:08
Russia win73ry
Remove NBK-, and get KEi, Kylar or sjuush.
2020-09-22 07:20
OG top 10? How many top 10 teams have they really won in last year? Maybe 3 in their whole CS history lol. They also banned Train like pussies against ENCE, but ENCE didn´t ban Inferno, which they could have done easily, and win in Nuke ez 2-0. but they are not bunch of pussies like OG trash :)
2020-09-22 07:28
"They also banned Train like pussies against ENCE..." What an stupid excuse..... Imagine not banning best map of your opponents while you can do it easily, LOL.
2020-09-22 07:33
Brunei cyLoL
2020-09-22 10:34
+1 this guy has 3 iq.
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2020-09-22 17:40
+1 aleksi 18-0 vs g2 wowie what a pussy
2020-09-23 09:53
Flag and flair checks out
2020-09-22 09:16
nt flukence fanboy, nt.
2020-09-22 09:28
Remove Aleksib and get NiKo
2020-09-22 09:35
2020-09-22 09:35
He is best IGL right now. You can check leaderboards he got featured for insane performance last week on EPL:
2020-09-22 13:28
Good player, shit IGL
2020-09-22 13:28
karrigan was kicked from FaZe for stealing NiKos strats. NiKo is tactical mastermind of CS:GO
2020-09-22 13:29
Yeah, that's why FaZe sucks with karrigan. /closed forever
2020-09-22 13:33
*without karrigan
2020-09-22 17:30
Imagine getting baited in 2k20 KEKW
2020-09-23 04:29
what about pronax
2020-09-23 09:53
I think they have a solid base for success. Might need a player change or two before they hit consistent top 5 level though. I'm not sure who they could get though. Maybe Coldzera from FaZe if that team falls apart.
2020-09-22 11:26
How many times has ence won vs OG? Oh wait 0/2 /Closed
2020-09-22 12:40
ENCE is genuinely the biggest tragedy of recent CS history. They became loved after the ENCE run at Katowice, then they drop Aleksib, the biggest personality in the team and suddenly go on a long run of being dogshit. Now no matter how well they do, people won't forget how they did Aleksib dirty and now he's doing better than them with OG.
2020-09-22 12:46
you forget that they have/had 2 cheaters in the team. Coach and Jamppi.
2020-09-22 13:23
In all fairness I'm willing to give Jamppi the benefit of the doubt and I think twista came forwards rather than being caught doing it.
2020-09-22 13:28
Come forward after. Michau said he will look back to demos from 2016. Very brave. Not. And Jamppi can tell the story he wants. Valve says otherwise so there is no doubt.
2020-09-22 14:24
Natu also cheater.
2020-09-22 13:33
Og cutest team 🥰:()
2020-09-22 12:48
nbk isnt a player that motivate or drive a team. First one I would replace.
2020-09-22 13:23
Europe Niko0
What an retarded opinion. OG has much more raw talent than a team like Ence.
2020-09-22 14:31
valde ok aim, but 0iq
2020-09-22 15:08
North America Straf3R
bro NBK got the hardest roles and is the entry on T side wtf
2020-09-22 15:13
Canada T1dal
og way more consistent than ence
2020-09-22 15:32
-valdemar +maden now its a good team
2020-09-22 17:23
OG players are too bad to be top 10. ENCE will always be a tier 2 team though LMAO
2020-09-22 17:32
tbf og is a 2-1.5 tier team
2020-09-22 17:34
Well they are tier 1 but the absolute bottom of it. Not good enough aim. They have done really well for what they are working with though.
2020-09-22 17:35
go back to ylilauta, enceli
2020-09-22 17:36
United States Valerence
why are retard ENCE fans saying ENCE is better than og when og have beaten them countless times
2020-09-22 17:41
They're now ranked 11th so eh. Top 10 isn't very far.
2020-09-22 17:43
Libya OG_TOP_1
name checks out
2020-09-22 18:13
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Argentina Xaby
2020-09-23 04:02
2020-09-23 04:02
probably a bait, but I honestly think they get to #9 or #10 during this year. but yeah its harder now since not so much going on NA-EU so NA will have a chance to get rank more easily. For example: EG number #3 in rankings now, they played vs OG (was it close to #20 then?) twice in Feb and lost both. Ofc they won some other teams in those events and have been more in form after that (against NA teams), but still.
2020-09-23 12:02
Issa and Mantuu have been their Best/most impactful players for White a while now. NBK and aleksi are deadweight at This point
2020-09-23 12:25
Aleksib is fragging very good in last time, wtf. Yeah, i agree that in beginning of the year he was very bad, but after that he hugely improved. NBK- is inconsistent af. H can pop off and own enemy team and then became a total bot on next map.
2020-09-23 12:28
both aleksi and nathan er incosistent. It's great to see aleksi have some 20+ frag games but it I'd rather have a consistently mediocre igl who does his midround calling and gets 14 frags per game, instead of a guy who will get 25frags one game and then have a who series where he gets 6-8 frags per map.
2020-09-23 12:53
when was the last time he had a series with more than one map <10 frags? sounds like you are jst talking out of your ass now
2020-09-27 12:36
literally his last 3 matches? Versus Heroic, Ence and Navi lol
2020-09-27 13:32
what r u smoking XD vs heroic 16 and 20 kills vs ence 16, 19 and 10 or something so only 1 map vs navi didnt bother to check fu for wasting my time
2020-09-28 20:44
misread ur comment on the kills lol
2020-09-28 23:22
OG is the type of team that will not be so shit when lans start again, theres too much "good" teams nowdays because everything is online, chill kids, a lot of things will change in terms of performance soon
2020-09-27 12:21
+1 they played really well on lan and mantuu and issaa are playing on 60+ ping
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Finland OldStager
Zero out of eight. /closed
2020-09-27 13:06
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