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"pro's cant complain about their dream job man! if they worked 9-5 they would complain all day" Literally everyone can get a regular ass 9-5 (thats why it makes less money) but not everyone can become a tier 1 csgo pro. If you think your 9-5 job is so much worse then being able to play video games for a living then maybe u should of thought about getting a job that u would like/love instead of ur "terrible 9-5" these csgo pro's all knew that a 9-5 job is fucking shit but instead of bitch to people who made it they chased their goal of having their dream job. And yes, they can comlain about their job when there's something clearly wrong like playing 10 am matches all of a sudden without having time to adjust their sleep schedule. everyone knows to compete at tier 1 level u need good sleep or u play worse.
2020-09-23 14:01
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#1
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Latvia HiImRenars
just dont work 😎
2020-09-23 14:04
+1, just chill, merkel pay my bills, heil the queen
2020-09-23 14:23
perfect, I'll change my flag
2020-09-23 14:48
Anshllus 2.0?
2020-09-23 14:49
took me a sec. to understand what u wrote there, but now i get it hahah, JA!
2020-09-23 14:50
i dont understand
2020-09-23 16:46
#146
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Brazil mbgOD
NEET life. theres no other way to live
2020-09-23 16:09
+1
2020-09-23 22:03
from what I know they were all told in advance when the match times are. Why not fix their sleeping schedule prior to the match? I'll tell you why, they are lazy.
2020-09-23 14:05
Yea kinda weird, they didnt have anything the night before? 10 AM is a really normal time to be up too
2020-09-23 14:06
Honestly, i can't stand pros who complain on twitter about match times etc... They aren't the only team in the world, not every organiser is going to work around them. They need to suck it up or complain privately through Liquid to contact the organiser.
2020-09-23 14:08
#52
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United States Jeebur
Literally half of the people playing yesterday complained. It's not them whining either they literally just said fuck 10am matches and nothing more. They didn't rant about how the matches affect them. You all are just taking it out of proportion
2020-09-23 14:41
go read his tweet again, he literally admits he is complaining about it lol "If it's so easy then why don't you guys come do it for yourselves or..you can't. I'm not complaining about my position in life lol but the overwhelming amount of tournaments that saturate the scene and the inconsistency of starting 10am, 12, 3, lack of practice, and other factors"
2020-09-23 14:54
#175
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United States Jeebur
"I'm not complaining about my position in life lol"
2020-09-23 20:54
can u even read a simple sentence, he's not complaining about his position but -> "but the overwhelming amount of tournaments that saturate the scene and the inconsistency of starting 10am, 12, 3, lack of practice, and other factors"
2020-09-23 21:31
#180
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United States Jeebur
This is from an English speaker. That is him explaining the reasons why later matches are more beneficial to him.
2020-09-24 01:05
ye this is him complaining about how INCONSISTENT the schedules are, like srsly if you're actually from US, you didnt go to school did you?
2020-09-24 01:41
I explained to Cerq why he has to play at 10 am. Very sad when you have to explain an adult where the money comes from. They can write the TO, they can skip the tournament if it is too hard. But whining in public is pathetic and that is why most pros don't do that. Except for the very stupid one. Astralis especially Gla1ve got a lot of hate also Zonic when both cried about too many tournaments. There is no problem when they take a break, but stop whining. It is like you would cry that the bank throw their money in your house.
2020-09-23 21:57
Or because they had a match on a complete different time literally 2 days prior? You can't adjust your body to a different sleep schedule (which they need to do considering they have prac etc everyday that they need to reschedule and adjust according to officials) within 2 days. you won't be able to perform at top level like that which is why they complained
2020-09-23 14:10
I'm sorry, 2 days is more than enough to fix a sleeping schedule and wake up early for a match. Why are all the other NA teams doing well then? They also have to wake up early with "fucked up schedules" They all had similar times played in the past week yet, stewie is the one crying. Autimatic not complaining Koosta not complaining Vanity not complaining Floppy not complaining Breehze not complaining Ethan not complaining the list goes on....
2020-09-23 14:13
autimatic responded to stewie2's tweet with obvious sarcasm "i love 10 am matches ;D" vanity posted this tweet yesterday : "How hard is it to understand pros are on a schedule, Every NA Team as far as i'm aware starts at 1130 or 12 PST. Being expected to perform at your best 2 hours before you typically are focused and ready to play CS is going to make people upset." I don't follow the other guy's on twitter but im sure alot of pro's that didn't "complain" liked stewie2's tweet. he's not the ONLY one complaining
2020-09-23 14:17
Of course it's annoying but its not the reason they lost. He's using it as an excuse. The fact of it is, waking up a few hours early to play a match isn't going to make you forget how to play the game.
2020-09-23 14:22
bro what? I play level 10 faceit matches and i lose them all when i don't sleep enough because im just so much worse.. if i notice a difference in skill when i don't sleep enough imagine how it is for them.. when they have to compete at the highest level.
2020-09-23 14:24
If you use more than 2 days to fix 1.5hour on your schedule you're fucking retarded. pls kys.
2020-09-23 14:43
who said 1.5 hours? the pro's i seen complain say they had 2am matches 1 day and 2 days later had matches at 10 am... how is this 1.5 hours do you use ur brain?
2020-09-23 14:46
Are you really that braindead? Let me quote your own comment, "Every NA Team as far as i'm aware starts at 1130" so if they have a match at 10:00 that means they start 1.5hr earlier than usual, no?
2020-09-23 14:50
you're making urself look really fucking stupid because i never even said that.. it was vanity. this post i made was towards people hating on all pro's who complain not just stewie.. maybe go read karrigans tweets.
2020-09-23 14:51
So your single mother stole your PC and wrote #20 then? Full mongoloid.
2020-09-23 14:51
"this is what vanity tweeted:"
2020-09-23 14:52
So #20 is not your comment and vanity doesn't know NA schedule better than a Belgium softy who's not able to change his sleep schedule a few hours max in 2 days? Pop some anti-psychotic pills, you're delusional.
2020-09-23 14:56
whats your problem, from the very first reply you're so aggresive and trying to say shit to insult me which just doesn't add to the argument at all. Are you not happy with ur job, does it frustrate you? do you go on hltv to let of steam? just relax
2020-09-23 15:23
Nah I'm aggressive due to your massive self-entitlement and lack of general adult knowledge of how the real world works.
2020-09-23 15:36
Self-entitlement? how?
2020-09-23 16:07
wtf this man cannot read
2020-09-23 14:58
12:00 is the time you should be the most focused, if you live a healthy life, so he has a point. That's when the sun is at it's peak. wake up when the sun goes up, go sleep when the sun goes down. easy life.
2020-09-23 15:23
Also explain this to me, how can they 2:0 Gen.g and not bitch and complain but as soon as they lost to EG, 2 days later at the exact same start time for the match they then cry. hltv.org/matches/2343649/liquid-vs-geng-.. hltv.org/matches/2343652/evil-geniuses-v..
2020-09-23 14:15
Cuz manbaby
2020-09-23 16:16
Well said dude. +1
2020-09-23 14:05
#4
Gustav | 
Norway günT
how many pros strike you as super ambitious people who have always chased their goals rather than just guys who were nerdy as teenagers?
2020-09-23 14:05
haha true
2020-09-23 14:07
#36
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Finland Faust_fSt
+1
2020-09-23 14:31
lmao if not going outside and not having a social life was what it took for them to put enough hours into gaming to become succesfull then so be it.
2020-09-23 14:47
I think you'll find it to be the other way around
2020-09-23 14:49
Totally. It's just being lucky that videogame and tech companies have seen a market in "eSports" that every day allows more people to live from their hobby. But no one ever thought "Yeah, I'm going a train har at videogames to be a Pro one day" because it wasn't a thing. Maybe the generation born in 2010 and forward might start to think that way for this and youtube (But many will end up facing they wasted their time).
2020-09-23 15:01
i dont remember ....
2020-09-23 14:05
Wonder how many hours someone that gets paid 30k a month works.. Probably a lot. But smh the pros wont do that? The pros are some fucking cry babies.. They sit up all night jerking and complain when they have to get out of bed before noon.
2020-09-23 14:06
#8
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CIS sexiestuser
noone says they cant complain, everyone just thinks that complaining about basically once-in-a-week game that starts at only 10.00 is some petty whiny bullshit and rightfully so
2020-09-23 14:07
I get this point of view but 1 tweet isn't exactly over the top whiny bullshit. (1 tweet as in originally players just posted 1 tweet complaining, more tweets followed in response to people arguing/saying they shouldn't complain)
2020-09-23 14:11
Sex user always spittin fucking faxxs 😏🤙
2020-09-23 16:17
na they are spoiled thats what the work entails wake up early and sleep early instead of playing among us until 5 am when you have a game at 10
2020-09-23 14:10
if they stayed up till 5 am the night before i have no sympathy but i highly doubt they did that
2020-09-23 14:11
#41
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Finland Faust_fSt
People are writing that Stewie literally played on stream with m0e til 4-5am the night before
2020-09-23 14:32
If thats the case then i have no sympathy for him. but there's plenty of other pro's complaining about this who don't do this (kariggan,kioshima,alex etc)
2020-09-23 14:47
#124
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Finland Faust_fSt
No, that's a completely different subject. Stewie2iq was not complaining about mixed tournament schedules or overlapping events, he was complaining about having to play an official at 10AM, which he could have marked in his calendar in fucking August, and the organization could have done all necessary arrangements for them to have a good daily routine for morning games.
2020-09-23 15:25
You are the people that think they are smart but their theory doesn't even qualify for elementary school. 80-90% of the world population can't do the job they like or love. also, we have billions with zero jobs and zero income except there is a welfare system. But you can go ahead with your really dumb conclusion.
2020-09-23 14:10
Anyone who was able to use a phone or pc and internet to complain about this situation 100% has chances of getting a job they would love instead of a random 9-5 which they all seem to have. "billions of people with zero jobs" okay im not talking about 3rd world countries were there is still so much poverty and corruption.
2020-09-23 14:14
The basic of capitalism is "Everyone can get rich but not all" same works with jobs. There is no country with 100% jobrate their it starts. And I talk about 1 world countries with that issues. germany has overall 8 millionen people that live directly by welfare. 20 Million from pension. USA has no real welfare 40 million jobless almost 50 million homeless. In Greece one pension is the only income for a whole family... You have absolute no idea what the reality is. So stop talk your bullshit come back with some reality.
2020-09-23 14:19
i'm saying everyone who has a phone and a pc and internet and probably a house to fucking sleep in can do what they want. Anyone who has acces to the internet and a house to sleep in can achieve a dream job if they put their mind and dedication to it
2020-09-23 14:23
That makes no sense. Cuz Internet doesn't give you a job. You can't quit a job cuz you have a house... The house is the reason why you keep your job cuz you can lose it in weeks. You watched too many movies
2020-09-23 14:33
"internet doesn't give you a job" maybe you're just old and bitter and don't know how much life changed. Alot of these people complaining to stewie are teenagers.. they don't need to worry about their house cause they're parents are paying it which means they have time to study for something they will like doing. Btw with dream job i mean a job that u like doing.. if u think im talking about a job that makes millions a year then ur wrong.
2020-09-23 14:49
As example over 2 million kids in Germany live in poverty so by welfare. They have Internet and am appartement but they get forced by the government to do every shit.
2020-09-23 14:56
you have got to be rich, young or both to have this line of thought, mate.
2020-09-23 14:18
im 18 and i have a single mother and i had to get a vacation job to afford the pc im using right now. im defenitly not rich. i just think everyone in a 1st world country who was born into a family that atleast has a house to sleep in and is able to go to school.. can do anything they want if they put their time and dedication into it and do research.
2020-09-23 14:21
so, young. it's okay, i hope life never proves you wrong. but sometimes, it does. once you get older and more experienced you will realise that your percentages are quite inverted - only a handful manages to land their dream jobs. i was born in a shitty family with no money (no poverty either, but no luxury), worked my ass off to try and reach my dream job and mid way through, family got sick and my priorities changed. i have money, just can't spend entirely on my self and life does not stop. now i'm too old to start to pursuit my dream again. Sometimes you have lots of things working on your favour, but sometimes only one thing going wrong takes you off the track and you can't get back to it. Dedication, hard work and will can only get you so far, you still need lots of luck.
2020-09-23 14:29
you're never to old to change ur job. or go for a dream job. my mom used to work overtime in a very shitty 9-5 job with very low salary.. then at age 46 she went back to study in therapy for 6 years and now is able to give therapy which she loves doing for alot more money.
2020-09-23 14:45
fyi when i say dream job i just mean a job that makes u happy / u love. i don't mean a job that makes like a million a year or something.
2020-09-23 14:45
i know, for the sake of understanding the dream job i refer to is being an airplane/helicopter pilot. this requires about $300K worth of studies plus a few years time availability for flight hours. I can get the $300K for it, but the flight hours would cost me my income source, thus compromising the $300K needed and the rest of my responsibilities. I do not wish to be rich by this, just do something I really love.
2020-09-23 14:51
in theory, you're right. in reality there are other several factors to be dealt with. my dream job requires a time available that If i chose to stick to it, it means that i would lose my actual income, hence have no money to keep living hehehe. I understand its possible, bot its not entirely dependant on will, that's my point. there's a thing called social bubble. this bubble dictates how you perceive situations, if your social bubble tells you that it's possible, you will think that everyone that does not get it didn't tried hard enough, but when you consider this, you usually leave out their social bubbles. This is what is so confusing about this. This is why stewie thinks that 10am matches are one of the worst things possible and why working class people thinks this is just him being spoiled.
2020-09-23 14:48
Fair enough, i agree with this actually and change my mind from what i originally posted.
2020-09-23 15:09
#132
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World Beard43
+1 to the second part there. It's even demonstrable when you look at the responses to the tweets from others in esports who are on high salaries with easy jobs, they're severely disconnected with what is the reality for the majority of the world. I work in health care for example and we have a laugh at people with 9-5 jobs who complain about getting up in the morning after a weekend. I understand them having a whinge but from our point of view, well it's not unusual for us to finish a shift at midnight and have to start again at 0730. Minus the commute time that doesn't leave much for rest. If you put overtime on top of that it makes for a really rough time some days. Then I look to esports for some entertainment in my downtime and see stewie2weak complaining about 10am games lmao, what a princess. To be very clear, I see no reason for him not to formally complain directly to ESL if this is a genuine problem for him. But to make a twitter post and actually think there won't be a bunch of people who think he's a total ass for it is beyond me!
2020-09-23 15:32
My guess is that stewie just randomly complained like we would do on a bar table with friends. Sometimes, those public figures tend to forget that their followers are not their friends and exaggerated backlashes like this may occur. Him being a not-so-mature adult just makes him fight back for what he perceives as people being intolerant or hateful torwards him for free. Self-centered people being people. Being games or not, they work with performance and being comfortable is a part of that. This is very far from our reality, so, in my opinion we should not use our life experience to judge his. This is a simple case of 'ignore this tweet and move on' hehehe.
2020-09-23 16:42
Just go to bed earlier if you need to wake up earlier and sleep your usual amount of time.
2020-09-23 14:17
your body needs to adjust to a new schedule. i can't just be staying up till 12 every night and then the next day i wanna sleep earlier and try to go to sleep at 8pm.. my body won't be able to fall asleep cause its used to being awake at that time.
2020-09-23 14:19
Take 10 mg of melatonin, turn off all lights, your PC and phone, and go to sleep.
2020-09-23 14:20
+1 always works
2020-09-23 14:24
How do you think people that work 50h a week dose it? Or more. People that get paid that amount of money, in like an office job is expected to fucking work their asses of.
2020-09-23 14:27
Pro's play 50h a week too.. the difference is they managed to achieve their goal and are able to put 50h a week into something they like unlike people who work a shitty office job who now spend 50h a week on something they dont like. its their own fault.
2020-09-23 14:36
How do you know they dont like doing that? They are driven by the motivation to get a better job, more money, better career. Unlike CS pros that complain when they have to be out of bed before noon.
2020-09-23 14:39
if ur putting 50h a week into getting a better job u will soon get it.... so there's no reason to complain?
2020-09-23 14:42
The difference is they dont complain, cus they are getting compensated handsomely......... One of my friends that are working as a lawyer is sometimes leaving the office at midnight.. Do you think he gets to stay in bed till noon the next day? Or accountants? they work till they are fucking done.
2020-09-23 15:04
you think they dont complain? they just dont complain on twitter cuz they are not celebs.
2020-09-23 16:18
Sleep three hours less the day before you must wake up. Have a big meal when you wake up and try to struggle through that day, maybe drink more coffee. Everyone saying Stewie is a crybaby, they’re right. He chose to be a pro player and it’s lack of proffesionalism to whine about playing one time at 10 AM. It’s not like he has to practice 5 hours before the match to warm up for an official. Also, it’s the way he wrote the tweet. Many ppl reacted to it because the sentencing is just awful. You can have a much higher impact by complaining about something in a way thay “suggests changing things due to various facts”, or just come across as a whining baby “fuck 10am matches yada tada”. Maybe stewie should grow the fuck up and learn some social skills.
2020-09-23 14:35
1 tweet.. 1 tweet while being frustrated and it caused an outrage. people are overreacting.. even if it was a "whiny tweet"
2020-09-23 14:37
I aggree and I hate it became this way. People are overreacting and too sensitive nowadays, especially on the Internet. Still, people have the right to express their opinion, just like Stewie did. In the end this is no the topic at hand at all. It’s about the argument that changing sleeping schedule gives him the right to whine about the time of one match. It doesn’t and like I said, people would not have responded so hastly if he would have not sentenced his words like a whiny bitch.
2020-09-23 14:52
true
2020-09-23 15:16
9-5 is for pussies, 7-3 is the real mens)) worktime
2020-09-23 14:18
it's same with football game, if it was in the morning no one would give a shit. when its a lan i can understand games starting at 10 or 11 in the morning but online makes 0 sensew.
2020-09-23 14:20
pro's say that its easier on lan actually
2020-09-23 14:22
cuz ur not at home playing till 4 in the morning with ur pals. ur mayb in the hotel lobby until 12 or 1 drinking a little ahving a buzz.
2020-09-23 14:31
or because they are all together? Its hard to adjust a schedule when everyone is in different locations and doing different shit
2020-09-23 14:37
Bad post, most of these guys will just be kids that loved the game, loved gaming etc. and at some point it became apparent they were pretty good - very few have dedicated themselves to the game specifically to work towards the long term goal of being a pro esports player. That aside it's just an extremely naive post in general, "you should have thought about getting a job you would like/love" says it all, grow up.
2020-09-23 14:32
anyone born into a family with a house, internet acces,acces to school etc have had chances to make something better then a 9-5 job. There's so many fucking different jobs out there u have NO right to complain about having a shitty job because guaranteed u had a chance to find a job u would like.
2020-09-23 14:39
Jesus christ you're actually stupid, tell me a better job than your typical 9-5 job ?
2020-09-23 15:10
You are talking like you know anything about life. You are probably under 14 years talking out of your ass.
2020-09-23 14:52
Well I played cs in beta circa 1999 so I'm at least 21, assuming a new born can play an FPS, don't need to pander to you by giving my age, probably just call me an old man next o.O.
2020-09-23 15:25
I dunno if I replied to you, but I wasn't supposed to. Sorry.
2020-09-23 15:26
It's not outrageous what stewie says when the other teams all get on for scrims at like 11, 12, or 1 (west coast time). Then the matches start anywhere from 3 and go to 10 possibly later. Then pros want to play FPL which can often go to 2 in the morning, maybe later. I've seen Tarik for example stream until 5 am. How is what stewie said outrageous.
2020-09-23 14:32
But how can it be anyone else's fault than their own, if they decide to go to bed at 5 am on a day they have to meet a work at 10 am?
2020-09-23 15:30
Because its out of the routine. It'd be the equivalent of being called in 3-4 hours early for a 9-5 job by the boss. It's not usual for them. 5am for them is like 12am for a regular person.
2020-09-23 15:41
So you are telling me a guy who goes to bed at 5 am has a "routine". Get out of here.
2020-09-23 15:42
No probably not, but do you really think making someone play at 10am who relies on mental performance to play their game is a great idea when they don't have regular hours? Conversely would you make a night shift person work at 12pm? Get out of here.
2020-09-23 15:44
Let me cut it out for you. He should go to bed earlier. Yes, they could have better standards, and it's for him and the other players to take that with the tournament organizers, but for now, he has to manage his bedtime to go to work. Simple as that.
2020-09-23 15:51
Blame all the players and not just stewie then. All the players are who decide when scrims start, when fpl starts, and generally also this determines when games starts because of people's average time of waking up. That's so unreasonable to say when as you said there is no routine. Have you ever tried to fall asleep at 7pm when your regular bedtime is 10pm? Okay I'm done talking to a cretin... BYE!
2020-09-23 15:58
But he's the one not having a routine. But whatever I like Stewie, not trying to bring him down, but to blame any other than him for not fitting his professional matches into his schedule is just stupid.
2020-09-23 16:09
Dude, if you think they knew what a 9-5 job before "picking" their career, then you have no clue :D
2020-09-23 14:32
idk what u just said
2020-09-23 14:41
Nah ofc, you are not too bright.
2020-09-23 14:50
No i think your english is just very bad.
2020-09-23 14:53
If you cannot understand his comment then you're not very sharp witted, bucko
2020-09-23 14:55
"dude, if you think they knew what a 9-5 job before "picking" their career, then you have no clue ;d" how tf can i know what this sentence means lmao it makes no sense
2020-09-23 14:56
Just wow.
2020-09-23 14:58
Cause I missed a "was" between job and before then I have "bad English". Think you got a bad brain, bro.
2020-09-23 14:57
it was just confusing.. anyway ur comment still makes no sense cause its irrelevant.. why would they need to know what a 9-5 job is... u think people with a 9-5 job don't complain? they complain way more then stewie who only posted 1 tweet.
2020-09-23 14:59
Yeah, just stop. You are way to young to having a discussion about this. Go play with your legoes or something.
2020-09-23 15:00
you just folded cause u can't reply with a actual counter-argument please grow up
2020-09-23 15:01
Nah dude, explaining this to you is just a waste of time, cause you are a kid with no clue. Come back when you are 25+ and actually know just a tiny bit about life.
2020-09-23 15:02
i can agree that what i originally said wasn't correct and has alot of issues. but what i replied to you "people with 9-5 jobs complain constantly and stewie only posted 1 tweet" is facts. People are acting like stewie is saying his job is terrible
2020-09-23 15:18
No people are acting like Stewie is a spoiled professional who shouldn't be complaining about stuff like that officially, when he should be happy to have a great job like that in the first place. If he has a problem with the schedule he should contact the tournaments privately or tell his team he's not gonna play if it's 10:00 am.
2020-09-23 15:19
i agree its more productive to contact tournaments etc but when people are frustrated they tend to post it online/talk to others about it to "let off steam" i don't think there's anything wrong with what he posted.. its not like he's constantly complaining and ranting on twitter about his job
2020-09-23 15:20
But if he sits up to 5 am playing games when he has to got to "work" at 10 am, then it's his own fault. If I had a job and sat up all night I wouldn't complain to anyone else than myself, and I would know it was my fault not going to bed earlier, not my bosses fault for setting a meeting time at 10 am, nor the customers fault for ordering whatever I had to make, sell or whatever my job was. Do you understand now?
2020-09-23 15:24
Working from 9-5 sucks, I work in 3 shifts, and when I have so called first shift I work from 6 to 14h which is a lot better since when Im done with job I have basically whole day to spend.. But either way, working sucks! I was always "dreaming" that when I grow up that I will not need to work :(
2020-09-23 14:37
It sucks but there's so many jobs out there and so many opportunities (in most countries) that it just takes time to find the right one and time to study for it to be able to get that job.
2020-09-23 14:41
#48
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Russia goodjob
i hate when people talk shit about athletes/gamers.. saying how much they get paid and how easy it is.. like if its so easy why didn't y'all become tier 1 csgo players or basketball players?
2020-09-23 14:38
Exactly.. or people say "why are football players making so much more money then people in the army or teachers who help the community" ... maybe because there are millions of teachers and only a handfull of succesfull football players?
2020-09-23 14:40
#76
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Russia goodjob
also its easy to monetize entertainment indudstry. Oh and many teachers get paid a decent amount at universities etc., but as you basically said there are fewer top notch athletes and more people that are willing to pay money to watch them do their thing
2020-09-23 14:51
#58
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Switzerland noxer*
You need to be incredibly lucky to make it in cs. There is a large ammount of players in the same skill bracket a many of the tier 1 and tier 2 pros, which simply aren't lucky enough to make it. ^ And shut up with that schedule thing, they knew in advance they had to play early in the morning that day. Just take some sleep pills if it bothers you so much,
2020-09-23 14:45
You don’t need to be lucky. If you’re good enough and dedicated they will spot you from grinding fpl, playing in a T3 match etc. All those people that say a large amounts of players have the same skill bracket as other pro players don’t really grasp what this game is all about. It’s not just about aim and mechanical skill. It’s about positioning, ability to react, have a way above average gamesense and improve or adapt at a higher rate than anyone else. Being a CS pro is determined by how high your skill ceiling can get, combining all of the above traits I mentioned. There are many T3 players who grind everyday and won’t ever get into the top. That’s cause their skill ceiling won’t allow it. There’s a saying: you make your own luck. Hard work can get you to a certain level, but genetics play the determining factor in becoming one of the best. Reality is harsh, but it is what it is.
2020-09-23 15:03
luck has a lot to do with it too. it really does
2020-09-23 15:24
That’s what all who didn’t make it say. How is luck involved?
2020-09-23 18:20
imagine complain about your "job" with 30k/month income xD
2020-09-23 14:47
meanwhile people struggling to get job for 400$ month during these hard days ...
2020-09-23 14:53
They're complaining about it because its not perfect... like any job. U think people with lower salary don't complain? you think people with shitty jobs never complain? all stewie did was 1 tweet, people with worse jobs complain way more then him.
2020-09-23 14:54
i dont know why you protect this piece of shit, he already a millionare, he can retire and keep playing valorant, noone expate him make this excuses, 10 players in equal situation, but only one of them keep making this excuses over and over again.
2020-09-23 16:12
over and over again? am i missing something
2020-09-23 17:11
Wrong comment.
2020-09-23 14:49
ok
2020-09-23 14:50
complaining about playing video games w/ 30k a month, which would be fine if there were a hard defined skillcap but there are so many potential pros literally burning away at low tiers because high tier CS is gated off by the old folk's home
2020-09-23 14:54
Surely if potential pro's are that good they can try get into fpl and get noticed? buy ecl and u can get a fpl-c ticket then grind fpl-c win fpl and impress orgs/pro's and u can make it. or atleast have a good chance.. no? def would not say its "gated off"
2020-09-23 14:55
Kids don't even understand how much they sacrifice out of their lives? All you do is watch them play games, you see nothing about their lives and trainings behind the scenes. Do you meet your family only 2 months a year? I dont think so. They are working at minimum the same amount of hours as a regular job every single day, and most of the times alot more + holdidays. They train and train and train. You really believe they are just playing for fun and miraculously geting so good at the game? If you do, please go and seek some help. No pain, no gain. As a wise man told me... If it was easy everyone would do it...
2020-09-23 15:04
... i'm defending them for complaining..
2020-09-23 15:00
sorry man didnt see the "" but im defending them too nothing bad to ur post man! Changed my first wordsa bit :)
2020-09-23 15:04
9 - 5 you wish. rather 8 to 6. 8h+1hbreak+1h traveltime = 10 hours more realistic. wake up at 12pm pracc at 2 pm 6 pm chill on twitch/fpl get 30k repeat. fucking burnout mens, it's so hard! kids have no idea.
2020-09-23 15:00
thats the reality kids
2020-09-23 15:01
good take. I don't think people realize that just because they have what most would consider a luxury job, there is still somewhat of a set schedule. Pros don't work a 9-5 hence why they go to bed far later and wake up far later. Why do kids not get that.
2020-09-23 16:16
People still crying about the tweet of Stewie? Cmon he just meant that they have bussy schedule.
2020-09-23 15:00
he has no idea what busy is. I'm busy at work too. But he has to do just one thing at a time. Meanwhile, I have to coordinate 10 things a time. Deal with it!
2020-09-23 15:10
maybe u could use this argument if u never complained.. lmao you are acting like people with 9-5 shitty jobs never complain and just "take it like a man!" Everyone who has issues with their job will eventually complain about it especially while being frustrated (like stewie) it doesn't matter if that job is a job that makes 30k or 2k
2020-09-23 15:15
yes, that's true. but that wasn't my point. point is, most people have to deal with way more/higher stress and workload. they are spoiled imo. still, there is always potential for improvement. to bei fair: in the end it's a general problem of our society. sick system makes sick. no reason to "take it like a man" if man recognized it as "bullshit", which those 9 to 5 jobs are anyway but also no reason to complain like a bitch. tl;dr: those pros are bad at PR.
2020-09-23 15:30
I agree and i think the situation the pro's are in is very spoiled but i don't blame stewie for complaining with 1 tweet on twitter while he was frustrated. everyone complains from time to time and the reason is cause life is not perfect. i don't think he's automaticly a whiny spoiled kid because he posted 1 tweet. im sure he recognizes that his job is very good
2020-09-23 15:32
well, he and this topic got plenty attention for sure now - kind of an achievement I guess?!
2020-09-23 16:11
#139
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Serbia bakedcs
Pracc aim, team pracc, pracc nades, watch demos, study opponent individual tendencies etcetcetc, stay fit and healthy and get good sleep while putting in 10 hour pracc days. Yeah you can go suck a dick buddy. Not saying it's a harder job than any physical labor but you make it seem like they make money in their sleep while they fucking grind and grind and grind to exhaustion (Not everyone obviously but the ones that actually achieve something do)
2020-09-23 15:46
I'm not talking astralis dicipline. their are fucking hardworking monsters. NA players on the other hand...you'd still have to convince me!
2020-09-23 16:12
Or just be DJ and make $35,000/hr
2020-09-23 15:16
there's plenty of jobs that people will find "fun" or jobs that make a good amount of money. And if you aren't able to get one of those jobs and had to resort to doing a 9-5 job then that sucks but it doesn't mean that people with better jobs can't complain when something is wrong about their job.
2020-09-23 15:19
r/wooosh But i divulge. I’m an EMT, I make $5000/ Month. I love my job. And it’s 24Hr Shifts which means i only work 2 days a week.
2020-09-23 15:24
I know ur joke was a post but i used it to give an example. Alot of people act like if u can't find a job that makes millions a year u have to do a 9-5 which just isn't true. There's so many jobs out there if u can't find one that makes u happy or that works for you then thats a you problem.
2020-09-23 15:26
post was a joke*
2020-09-23 15:27
Professional players technically don't stop working, the only difference is the job satisfaction.
2020-09-23 15:18
+1
2020-09-23 15:29
#136
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Serbia bakedcs
Thing is pro cs players often pracc for 10-12 hours a day, someone who does office work for 8 hours has no fucking right to say that someone who basically does the same (sit at a computer) just more intense (competitive environment - need to perform) and often for much longer, has it easy.
2020-09-23 15:42
No E-sports team forces players to practice for more than 8 hours a day. If they don't go to bed on time it's their own fault.
2020-09-23 15:46
#140
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Asia loveall
People really like to waste their time just because of a single tweet ! Everyone has different perspective towards all the things.`
2020-09-23 15:47
#141
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Poland S_Junior
HONORIS played at 9 am three times or even more, and we're absolutely fine with that. If you want achieve something you gotta play whenever you have to... Just sign some good managers, not players with milion dollars salary ;)
2020-09-23 15:49
#156
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Poland morosek
stop xd
2020-09-23 16:26
#158
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Poland S_Junior
stop harrasing men(
2020-09-23 16:36
#162
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Poland morosek
never men)))
2020-09-23 16:55
every pro is determined whether they are pro from when they are born! its all genetics!
2020-09-23 16:01
no its not.
2020-09-23 18:37
yea it is
2020-09-23 18:38
its really not genetics.its about putting in the time and learning the actual game and playing with the right people.see people think jumping in mm and playing pugs with randoms is how they learn the game and thats what makes u good but in reality its not cs at all.cs is about playing with a team learning the game together and playing alot and putting in the work.this is no different then playing a team sport.
2020-09-23 18:43
yea ofc but to go pro you def gotta have the genetics. shroud was mechanically gifted and every game he plays hes good in.
2020-09-23 18:51
#155
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Finland HARD4ENCE
I think high salaries in CS GO and any esports for that matter especially at tier 1 level are well justified, considering how hard it is to reach the top (and stay there) and also just how stressful their job is being constantly under the pressure to perform. Besides, pro careers are short, like 5-10 years so in that time they should be well compensated especially if they are at the very top, taking into consideration they basically sacrificed their whole lives to get there.
2020-09-23 16:28
"sacrificed their whole lives to get there".... lmao
2020-09-23 17:16
#165
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Pretty much. I might have used a slight exaggeration but pro players basically have to give their all to CS if they want to make it to the top. Raw skill only gets you so far.
2020-09-23 18:17
WORKING 9-5
2020-09-23 16:33
I prefer Five-seven, it's insta 1 hs close range
2020-09-23 16:37
#167
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Canada Droidd
It's only one game for like 2 - 3 hours at 10AM. Other people have way more shitty and they aren't complaining. It's not like they have game at 10AM every day either. They're making like 30k a month only to play one game every other day at 10AM.
2020-09-23 18:24
anyone can become a cs pro..u just need the right people and u need to know people.grinding pugs and mm system is never going to get you there.
2020-09-23 18:25
how much % of jobs are not 9-5 or 8-6 ? like less then 10 ?
2020-09-23 18:26
Btw, the guys who do 9-5 have created CSGO, sometime 9-9 also.
2020-09-23 18:43
#178
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Sweden botl0f
steewiiiiieeeeeeee
2020-09-23 21:59
But I work 8-4 men's))
2020-09-24 01:44
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