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Valve needs to do a move and QUICK
tarik | 
Norway MD! 
CS is losing ground really fast, riot's aggressive marketing really works, even the stupid chicks at my uni that barely know how to use a PC play valorant. CSGO's only way to get advertised is the Major, and it just brings other gamers to play CS while riot can bring non-gamers to play Valorant and LoL. Adding to that the fact that there's no major this year really made CS take a big hit. Valorant is a dogshit game made by a dogshit company with a dogshit community, yet by just spamming ads everywhere they still manage to make their copied games successful. Volvo obviously don't care so why I'm I even writing this smh my head.
2020-09-24 09:19
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#1
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India mr_magician
valve has earned so much money so now they dont care about their games :(
2020-09-24 09:21
mens((
2020-09-24 09:22
#101
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Finland nexustron
sad mens ((((
2020-09-24 13:51
#12
tarik | 
Norway MD!
They could earn so much more if they market the game properly.
2020-09-24 09:31
They make much more by letting others to take risks of developing games and simply taking cut of sales. Valve changed their business model long time ago. It's working great. CSGO wasn't even developed by Valve.
2020-09-24 12:36
#99
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Namibia doggc
This. Valve has the best games competitively in CSGO and DOTA but they just don't care as long as their main money making is game sales.
2020-09-24 13:46
next EA Sports
2020-09-24 18:29
cs is not marketable.
2020-09-24 09:22
#8
tarik | 
Norway MD!
Just make it T and CT and change bomb to blitz or projectile or whatever who cars
2020-09-24 09:28
still the theme stays the same... in this age of political correctness cs will slowly die. the majority of players are cs veterans. it's not very popular amongst kids. unfortunately crap games like valorant are the future.
2020-09-24 09:39
In denmark CS is getting bigger and bigger, its insane how many kids want to be Astralis. It helps aswell that a lot of big event are on national tv. Just now we will have the EPL playoff and next iem new york after
2020-09-24 09:41
Denmark is an exception.
2020-09-24 09:43
Sweden could be the same, all the factors we have Sweden can get easy aswell.. Sweden just need a team like astralis to get all the plastic fans to cheer when fnatic wins and cry when thye loose. (its mental how the mainstream danish cs fan cry when astralis loose, they are more delusional than BIG and NAVI fans)
2020-09-24 09:47
we had our "era" cs peaked already in sweden and now comes its downfall.
2020-09-24 09:52
But that era could have started a lot of new talent to play because of that era? But no?
2020-09-24 10:54
Sweden had 2 eras with 2 different teams in csgo I doubt it can't grow. You just need proper marketing
2020-09-24 09:52
cs is well known, it's just washed up .
2020-09-24 09:53
So what are swedes playing nowadays?
2020-09-24 09:57
Well Russia too then
2020-09-24 12:20
Denmark people are smart, they don't politicise everything like leftists. They recognise what's big and profitable and what's small
2020-09-24 09:43
bro imagine our pm promoting and playing csgo just like danish pm did lol
2020-09-24 09:58
#83
broky | 
India h@des
never gonna happen xD only careers for us are engineer and doctor.
2020-09-24 12:40
#32
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Finland Sorsa
In Finland ence does a lot of advertisements and some tournaments are shown on tv. i don't know about kids but IMO Finland has a big cs community.
2020-09-24 09:57
yo man how do families talk about this in Denmark? what is the narrative for it to be approached in such a nice manner? nobody cares there's guns, bombs, etc? legit question
2020-09-24 12:18
I think most people just see cs as a sport and not looking at what the game is about, a terroist making a bomb explode.. Most dads have played cs in 1.6 and just thinks its cool that cs are more mainstream now and thier kids want to play. Plus their is a lot of Astralis fans, its like a national team, like mibr was for brazil. Its a bit wierd when Astralis do anything is just the best, but when Heroic or Mad Lions win flashpoint or Colonge nobody cares compared to Astralis make playoff at EPL...
2020-09-24 13:09
#40
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Germany MTD3
Not true. Check Out rs6 way better Sponsoring then cs as it is marked as "Training-Sim"
2020-09-24 10:51
#92
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Japan Inlivino
in China CS also getting bigger, bigger then valulrant.
2020-09-24 13:06
But there is no asian scene to play in.. just the tyloo that only are in majors because asia have a spot. While 8 EU team that are way better have to compete in EU minor
2020-09-24 13:12
#97
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Japan Inlivino
in Asia there's no FPL or Rank S to improve pro player, finding new talent, or pro player play against each other. now since 5ewin launch, it a lot more easier. If we talk about number of viewers on stream, if there big event, Chinese streamer will cast the stream on bilibili or Youku. i agree with your opinion about how aggressive valorant marketing is, and it's pay off really well. But that doesn't means it will keep these people keep playing it for a few year or more. also it's really great that valorant exist so CSGO and TO can start wake the fuck up and start care about the game/pro scene.
2020-09-24 13:34
#108
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Hong Kong shmilx
There's always been SoStronk as well, and from what I remember CSGO2Asia hub wasn't bad at the league 1 and masters league. Not played 5EWin before, is it mostly chinese speakers? because that was the impression i got from friends who had played it
2020-09-24 14:35
#120
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Japan Inlivino
SoStronk and CSGO2Asia hub doesn't have many pro player in the league and if there's, they mostly not playing it. well there's many chinese speakers in 5EWIn but there's also many from other country, and 5EWIn rating and server is better to play by every asian player (because server focus on Asia)
2020-09-24 17:38
#121
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Hong Kong shmilx
I know BnTeT, Kaze, and infamously Forsaken used to play SoStronk and before 5e was bigger tier2-3ish SEA players like ZhoKiNg, the old ViCi guys, and most pro pinoy players, like the old TNC squad would play CSGO2Asia. Main reason I never played 5e was because most of my friends said to not play it unless you can call in Mandarin on all the maps (I can't, I only know the basic calls on D2 and a couple calls on Mirage, plus I'm totally illiterate in Simplified Chinese) because 5e has such a huge population of mainland chinese players. Feels like right now there's not much of a development scene for the non-chinese speakers in SEA, like I know for it's size a lot of pinoys play cs.
2020-09-24 18:27
#107
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Hong Kong shmilx
I don't know anybody irl while I've been in the UK that plays cs other than friends I met before being in the UK, but a fair few amounts of people know Valorant (but dont play it). Then again in comparison to console gaming, PC gaming in the UK isn't nearly as big of a market from what I've seen.
2020-09-24 14:31
Valorant is fake
2020-09-24 09:23
Valve know that a game like cs will eventually become 'controversial' as its got bombs, terrorists etc. Wait until leftists attack it saying we need to censor the word terrorists etc
2020-09-24 09:23
#9
tarik | 
Norway MD!
2020-09-24 09:29
2020-09-24 09:37
Valorant will never be an issue. CS is a game. Valorant is just a waste of time.
2020-09-24 09:25
#11
tarik | 
Norway MD!
You're a hardcore CS fan obviously you're gonna think that, but if you go outside of your bubble you'll that no one cares about CS really, some even never heard about CSGO.
2020-09-24 09:30
You're a hardcore valulrant fan obviously you're gonna think that, but if you go outside of your bubble you'll that no one cares about valulrant really, some even never heard about valulrant.
2020-09-24 09:37
#19
tarik | 
Norway MD!
Ok
2020-09-24 09:41
Im not hardcore anything. Anything to the extreme will just leave you stupid.. Things are what things are. And I care about many things, and my interest is about many things. So if that is your argument things are not looking to good.
2020-09-24 10:43
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 09:26
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 09:29
#13
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Russia VelsVivard
Good try, I giggled but it won't be a meme.
2020-09-24 09:31
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 09:54
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 11:04
CSGO isn’t dying or in danger. Valorant has made Valve push good updates and has cleared CSGO of some casuals and bad pros. Valorant is improving the CS scene.
2020-09-24 09:34
#18
tarik | 
Norway MD!
I like your optimism but I really dont see it that way, valve has pushed some solid updates don't get me wrong but there's nothing sexy to attract new people and players to the game, our only strength is the clean and balanced gameplay but people clearly don't care about that nowadays. Lots of orgs are thinking of leaving CS while they pay their val players 30k/month..
2020-09-24 09:40
Valorant hype is not new and CS is still topping steam with huge numbers. Valorant eSports has no hype and hardly any steamers while CS has more tournaments than ever and 200k viewers outside majors. As far as I’m concerned CS doesn’t need lots of new players anyway. As for the orgs and players, the CS scene is still fine and many CS pros earn that.
2020-09-24 09:45
#59
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Portugal xxxruixxx
Sorry....but.... regarding Valve, that may have bee true during the last two years, but in 2020 we haven´t had any meaningful updates. Zero. Unless you count the Trusted Mode as a real update (which I don´t... I saw zero effects in terms of less amounts of cheaters).
2020-09-24 11:50
CSGO will always have a huge player base, but the area of concern is viewer-numbers on streams. Valorant looks very interesting, colourful to watch on stream , while CSGO is probably most boring to watch with dull colours, and everything blurry. Viewers have a very easy choice. Some tweaks in colours and visibility will make watching CSGO streams much more enjoyable.
2020-09-24 09:41
To some it's kinda opposite, csgo is ridiculously simple to understand to viewers and players alike, unlike valorant, where you have to understand what is the purpose of each abilities. But yeah, the colourful thingy attracts a lot of kids. One thing, I have noticed that a lot of newbie valorant players are quite interested in csgo due to its simpler nature and higher skill ceiling
2020-09-24 09:48
HiKo gets around 20,000 live viewers while streaming Valorant; yesterday he streamed CSGO and got around 7000 live viewers. Similar is the case with most streamers. Shroud has announced that he won't even stream CSGO. It appears that overwhelming majority of viewers on Twitch don't care about CSGO. Valve must do something about this. PS : I've never played Valorant, only watched it.
2020-09-24 09:58
and if not ? i dont care if 10k people watching a major oder 100 mio watching. u have enough people who still play the game on faceit esea even mm is not dead... and atm u have more user then 2-3 yrs ago
2020-09-24 12:34
Valorant is dead on twitch compared to csgo now.
2020-09-24 12:04
major wont be this year. no way that it will be online and in current situation with covid? nope...
2020-09-24 09:45
#37
ZywOo | 
India aR__
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 10:43
say it to the volvo, + imo they are fuking retards my account got scammed and i asked if i can get it back somehow cause it means a lot to me, then they said its not their fault, but like i had my mobileshi too but hacker got somehow into my acc and then when I said to them fix your **** system he recommended me to go see doctor and gave my local doctor number and emergency number too. Very nice customer work ffs
2020-09-24 10:49
and i agree with you totally they are so lazy apes that i can not understand
2020-09-24 10:49
#41
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Germany MTD3
You have to be mentally challenged by a 10piece Puzzle If you managed to lose füll control over your Steam acc
2020-09-24 10:54
#93
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Japan Inlivino
you've iq of chimpanzee if you somehow lose your account fully. that's definitely your fault.
2020-09-24 13:08
"by a dogshit company" Best gaming company.
2020-09-24 11:00
#52
tarik | 
Norway MD!
stealing games, making them worse and marketing the shit out of them yes
2020-09-24 11:32
0/8
2020-09-24 12:25
#44
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Lithuania eZaF4BYMAS
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 11:00
Lmao, valve is the dogshit company compared to Riot. Riot communicates, reacts faster for bigs etc. Valve just sit on for years, see coach bug since 2015. I like CS but there is no point defending valve
2020-09-24 11:07
wow what a beta to be a fan of a Chinese company
2020-09-24 12:13
im not fan of riot, just saying they are better objectively, for me u seem to be the beta basing everything on nationality in 2020. NT shekelbot
2020-09-24 12:20
Valve >> Riot
2020-09-24 12:25
I dont know how dota 2 players feel but valve should do definitely better job with CSGO, riot does much better job with valorant and lol
2020-09-24 12:31
I don't play any moba,because it's not interesting for me But in terms of developing Valve better than Valulrant
2020-09-24 14:18
#82
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Ukraine Dert38
riot smells tho
2020-09-24 12:39
another insightful comment, thanks
2020-09-24 13:05
#118
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Ukraine Dert38
nt riot staff
2020-09-24 17:33
fokin men relax valve own steam their games never down
2020-09-24 11:17
Do you really want the stupid chick at your school to play CS? No.. Let the kids play Valorant so we can enjoy CS in peace.
2020-09-24 11:20
#51
tarik | 
Norway MD!
the more people play the more watch the bigger CS gets
2020-09-24 11:31
And how is that going to improve anything? You just want more people to watch CS tournaments? Or do you want the game to be better? - Also Valorant esport scene is a joke compared to CS:GO esport scene.. Anyway, esport is dead until LAN is back.
2020-09-24 11:42
dead game anyway
2020-09-24 11:26
Valorant is the "new" thing. Let's see if it can maintain the same level of interest for the next 5 years. Nevermind 20 years. It's natural for it to be getting hype - when source 2 comes out when the large majority of people's PC's can handle it - I'm sure CS will be hyped up again. It's still king of FPS games and will attract a more hardcore audience - that's the nature of CS. Valve > riot by a mile. Looks at the censorship and report systems in place at riot - it's a joke. You can feed your ass off all day long in LOL as long as your not toxic - i.e you don't say to a teammate "why didn't you come join the team for a team fight we needed you" as he sits farming minions for 40 minutes before losing.
2020-09-24 11:26
#53
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CIS Merlas_mtk
valorant made by dogshit company omegalul riot>>>>>>>>>>>>valve look at lol, this game beat dota 10x player base the same will be with valorant, cs:go in first year was so dogshit,laggy and buggy player was so low, valorant have couple of months and already have almost same players as cs
2020-09-24 11:33
#55
tarik | 
Norway MD!
valve is an innovative company, devs are just lazy. riot has 0 original ideas but the money men out there know how to market games and get their devs to work hard.
2020-09-24 11:36
Valve >>>>>>>>> riot Flag doesn't checks out
2020-09-24 12:23
#86
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CIS Merlas_mtk
keep dreaming, one update per 6 months omegalul
2020-09-24 12:42
You think riot is any better? Valorant's sound engine worse than 20 yr old 1.6 and they still lie that technology is not available to upgrade it. Riot's name is hard carried by the success of LoL
2020-09-24 13:49
With how we are at being triggered, offended & butthurt in 2k20 its just way too hard to market CS in the West. "He got a kill, the terrorists are attacking B, the bomb is planted on A" sounds pretty bad if taken out of context.
2020-09-24 11:36
CSGO has such a solid foundation with solid player base and a spot in the gaming and esports market with certain audience, so it's never been the goal to gather players from audiences that are not interested in 'realistic art style' shooting games. CSGO has never been the trendy new game every casual wants to pick up and it's been just fine. I don't think this will change because it hasn't for almost 20 years. CSGO is a game where hardcore fps players will eventually return and is the most solid, easiest to follow fps esports game. Also statistically CSGO isn't going anywhere
2020-09-24 11:44
#58
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Macedonia thrash94
I also smh my head
2020-09-24 11:49
#60
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Portugal xxxruixxx
According to steamcharts, CSGO has been losing players and compared to last April/May, it lost around 30% of its playerbase. This is a lot. Even taking into account the covid lockdowns. Also, in terms of meaningful updates, we got zero this year (I am not even going to mention the Trusted Mode update because it did nothing for the game). The pro-scene is currently pretty much dead because of the pandemic without any lan/arena events and this will continue to take a toll in the playerbase IMO. So... yeah.... Valve has to do something if it wants to keep this game alive - unless they don´t care about losing revenue (wouldn´t make sense from a business point of view). I have the feeling that they are preparing something big behind the scenes (source2 port maybe? I don´t know). It´s the only explanation I can find for the lack of impactful updates this year..... unless Valve went full retard...
2020-09-24 12:05
less daily player doesn't mean they lose player base. OMG use your f brain.
2020-09-24 12:12
#87
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Germany sommares
trust factor sucks ass because i always have to play on low trust factor cuz of nvidia filters ????????????
2020-09-24 12:42
#65
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Finland AleksiBOT
Insecured CSGO fan boi
2020-09-24 12:14
#81
tarik | 
Norway MD!
Insecure* 0/8 anyway
2020-09-24 12:36
Valulrant is popular only in NA,in EU its dying and in CIS it was released already dead
2020-09-24 12:22
the real question is, are they fat and ugly or hot and beautiful?
2020-09-24 12:26
no one want this newbes to play csgo.... atm csgo has more user then 2-3 yrsago... all is fine.
2020-09-24 12:28
#75
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Sweden Lagge15
Csgo average players grew in August but have dropped in September. Most likely due to some countries letting go of restrictions which means less people are staying home all day or even if schools are being online that means less people can play. There has also been exhaustively many t1 matches in September which usually make the average drop. This is the 7th highest average player count csgo has ever had so why would it be a problem for a game that has been out for 8 years (97 months)
2020-09-24 12:30
Riot isn't a dogshit game lmao cry is free)
2020-09-24 12:31
#79
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Poland morosek
valorant is for people who doesn't care about quality of the game as long as it's colorful and "fun"
2020-09-24 12:35
#84
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Ukraine Dert38
imagine u.s. still caring about "fun" what a lazy geeks freaks
2020-09-24 12:40
#85
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Germany sommares
trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=csgo,.. the fuck you mean bro? valorant is gonna die in germany its already dead trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=DE&..
2020-09-24 12:42
#90
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Poland morosek
It's already dead in EU
2020-09-24 12:51
#119
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Ukraine Dert38
nalorant
2020-09-24 17:33
+1 and also #freeJamppi
2020-09-24 12:43
+1 wouldnt be surprised if he left after valve fucked him over
2020-09-24 14:33
valorant is new, wait for 1 year it will die
2020-09-24 12:50
#95
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Japan Inlivino
Valorant is relatively "new" game. it's obvious many people will jump into bandwagon. just wait for a year if they can maintain it.
2020-09-24 13:11
#98
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Senegal m0rkTFH
What do you expect froma a company that never created Half-Life 3 or Half-LIfe 2 Episode 3? They messed up the best video game series of all time, why they should care about a decent MP fps game like CsGo? They are only interested in selling games on Steam. Steam is the sh*t that ruined everything because people is too lazy or too poor to purchase real retail games with a actual case and booklet.
2020-09-24 13:42
"real retail games with actual case and booklet" wow that was boomer as hell...
2020-09-24 17:01
#116
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Senegal m0rkTFH
Wow this is so 2000ish as hell
2020-09-24 17:25
Valve just bought CS for the hype and now they treat it like their adopted child, they'd be happy to watch it fade into obscurity, as long as skins are selling, they dont give a fuck about the game
2020-09-24 13:52
+1
2020-09-24 14:27
I hope cs go dies.
2020-09-24 14:26
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism.
2020-09-24 14:37
those girls were never going to play CS in the first place.
2020-09-24 16:53
works for retards like you man, get out of hltv if you are fan of riot
2020-09-24 16:56
cs will survive, it survived for 20 years without valve giving a shit about it. other games came and go, but cs still.
2020-09-24 16:58
0/8
2020-09-24 17:00
ok
2020-09-24 17:01
#117
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Denmark Y3kx
Honestly, I want someone to assasinate gaben and then put in someone who actually can listen to the community and care about the consumer and their products
2020-09-24 17:26
Imagine playing 20y with terrorist and counter-terrorist and no one cares about it. Now they change T color from agressive red to shit yellow or something like dat If they don't want bomb just remake all map for hostages LUL
2020-09-24 18:31
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