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Brazil IarentThinkThatz 
just use logic, usually dirty people fail to pretend to be honest on their first chance... for example, steel (ibp), you can see from miles away that the guy is dirty and is always using any oportunity to look good and make others look bad, since day one, envolved on cheat scandals etc, dead had sooo many fairplay and other oportunities over his carreer to talk shit or do smartass moves, when LG SK were the best he didnt do it, why da fuck would he flame his image after so many years, and in a situation where mibr would not even benefit that much from lol I guess people from outside brasil or toddys (aka furia fans) that dont know dead well really think he would do that lol, all the mibr players over the years are elite in terms of professionalism (outside kng, but from outside game issues), the guys are really competitive, thats why they are respected by OGs and people who really know cs over the years. you guys can meme about it, but if you really think dead was trying that hard to have advantage you guys are probably enzos (furia generation). #thecryisfree #OG #fortnitegeneration #toddy #enzo #pietro #onlinegeneration #lanEra>toddyEra
2020-09-25 22:22
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2020-09-25 22:23
Fakeflag or no?
2020-09-25 22:29
Poland Ryunar
better than "why innocent is dead" I guess
2020-09-26 00:11
He is back in 5 months. I am not sure to which extend he used the exploit, but personally it didn't seem like he did a full on rAge cheat (lmao)
2020-09-25 22:27
Should get permabanned if children get permabanned for cheating in meaningless games.
2020-09-25 22:51
Valve didn't start to ban. But they said if they have all evidence they will do bans. So probably he gets a number of major bans like 2 majors. And his career as a coach is done probably even as a team owner. But some brazil teams need a water boy.
2020-09-25 23:06
Brazil Pandapool
Dead was never a coach to begin with. He was just there to fill the role, fallen already said a ton of times dead doesnt do shit ( not using this words ofc). The guy doesnt make calls, he barely knows anything about cs....... he is a friend.... when fallen and the guys went to NA dead helped them, and let them live with him, he is pretty much a manager. The guys owe him a lot cause if it was not for him they couldnt even play in NA and win 2 majors as lg/sk. No team would pick dead as a coach, and i dont think he would coach for anyone but fallen.
2020-09-25 23:55
Sk doesn't need a brazil manager to do their work. I wonder how Flusha thinks these days about his donation for these players... And as I said Valve can end his career in any Valve game. But he can still join RIOT then.
2020-09-25 23:58
Brazil Pandapool
Like i said. If you go to another country without money, a guy just helps you, let you use his house to train, and helps you supporthing your team with his own money, when your team had no expectations at all, you probably give him a job when you get an org for your team.
2020-09-26 00:09
innocent is polish nt
2020-09-25 22:24
2020-09-25 22:41
Dead is inside innocent that way.
2020-09-25 22:25
theyre gey?
2020-09-25 22:26
2020-09-25 22:28
2020-09-25 23:01
Flag and flair check out
2020-09-25 22:27
A big fat +1
2020-09-25 22:28
just facts bro is the same as this happening to stewie, elige or some guy that everyone that follows cs since beggining knows that these guys would not cheat or do any bullshit, u can meme, u can call them whatever u want, but u know they woudnt """cheat""".
2020-09-25 22:31
Tldr; MALDING in Brazil back at it with the excuses
2020-09-25 22:39
you can meme all you want, you know deep inside that I'm speaking truth =p we are tier 25 for 3 years and we cry from all the way possible, I agree, but we never cheated since 2014, this is different than the usual mibr excuse
2020-09-25 22:41
Denmark Jeffersond
Fer is going to Furia btw
2020-09-27 09:27
2020-09-27 09:30
kNg has been the most professional so far from mibr
2020-09-25 22:28
That doesn't say much though
2020-09-25 22:29
yeah, the unprofessional part was 100% outside the game, on the other hand he isnt burnout like the older guys, is his first time on a team with that visibility
2020-09-25 22:31
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Brazil eumesmo
wtf? kng plays the bad guy everyday on twitter.
2020-09-25 22:32
prove it or i'll
2020-09-25 23:17
Dead is a cheater no matter what you say. You're clearly baiting but oh well Here, he's watching the BLAST stream while the guys are playing. From that you can get a shitload of info and adjust setups accordingly. Even if it's got a delay, it's still an unfair advantage and considered cheating.
2020-09-25 22:31
you are tripping, by your logic, if the delay doesnt matter, image how easy would be to do that lol why he didnt get banned for this? the fact of him watch the game on camera just proves that, guy has 2340-923-409234 years of cs, if he wanted to cheat doing that, he would do hiding it, no need to do in front of everyone the bug thing is real, we can discuss that, this post from you is braindead
2020-09-25 22:33
I never said the delay doesn't matter. Dead has been proven to cheat once and it's no surprise that he's done it again. Even with a delay on the stream, you can get information on: rotations setups economy All of which is an unfair advantage and can/ will win you games. No clue why he didn't get banned, the mibr guys have gotten away with a lot of shit over the years then cry at HLTV racism every time something goes wrong for them. You're just as retarded as the team/ players you support. Thank god that most orgs won't pick up fallen/ fer because they're a PR nightmare.
2020-09-25 22:51
nah you clearly hate brazilians and are blind to the facts, if watching a stream didnt had delay enough so a guy could see a rotation is your logic, you clearly dont know ANYTHING about counter strike. and people being xenophobic and racist against BRS are true like 12 yo nerds from brazil sending death threats against people on twitter, both are situations you cant generalize but both are FACTS. #thecryisfree
2020-09-25 22:54
You're surely just baiting You can easily learn a rotation pattern mid-game and predict rotates etc to help you to win. And how can you expect people to be anything other than xenophobic when your countries representatives (the mibr guys) are liars, cheaters, and in fer's case, racist. Read up asshole.
2020-09-25 23:14
bringing up richard lewis OMEGALUL the guy who live and earn money by creating clickbait titles and is the most hipocrite guy in the industry with thorin just think about what your argueing here, richard lewis drama on that event is exacly what I'm saying. richard lewis is a monster? no. but if I turn your type of opinion, I could say RL is a monster that """"CHOKE"""" an "INOCENT" guy in esports event, and should be banned for life!!1111 theres a world where I could say that, but as I'm not retarded, I would NEVER agree on something insane like that, even thinking RL is a baiter and irrelevant, I would never be this dirty, of using a situation like that to boost my hate.
2020-09-25 23:29
China Rynaki
If the conclusion you draw from "Dead has been proven to cheat" is "you clearly hate brazilians," then there is no point in further continuing discussion.
2020-09-25 23:14
#65 we can use the RL example to justify what I was saying, if u dont want to understand just dont, but if you are smart you'll get it.
2020-09-25 23:29
For sure, even if RLewis hates Brazilians, he's still got an infinitely more integrity than people like Dead, FalleN, Fer, etc
2020-09-26 20:28
China Rynaki
I wrote that before Richard Lewis even got mentioned in the conversation. Nothing you said before that even mentioned anything about Brazilians. I don't understand how he interpreted "dead is cheating" to be racist towards Brazilians.
2020-09-26 21:27
better send me death threats then dude, it's the reasonable thing to do despite the proof that dead has cheated throughout his career
2020-09-26 21:53
Brazil Vicmar
2020-09-25 22:32
United States ShawnM
so dead blatantly cheats in a RMR event but something steel + IBP did 5 years ago is worse? dead gets a 6 month ban only...
2020-09-25 22:32
nah I just used that as example, usually dirty people show their face right away bro, a guy like dead had many oportunities and could benefit SK LG in their prime, but he choose not to, why da fuck would he do shit like that now, without changeing anything? lol same goes for some NA players, they never did anything wrong in so many years, with so many oportunities, I would back people like elige anyday too, this type of cheat isnt even that good to change a match lol
2020-09-25 22:35
"a guy like dead had many oportunities and could benefit SK LG in their prime" What do you mean by this?
2020-09-25 23:18
fairplay situations for example, look how many dirty people take avantage of that and refuse to replay rounds etc, after years I guess you can trust that the guy will not do something that stupid, and something that dont give u almost anything back lol
2020-09-25 23:26
"I guess you can trust that the guy will not do something that stupid" I don't think it works like that. People change and also there is evidence of him using it twice and not reporting or disconnecting. ESIC is only gonna decide based on evidence not on feelings which you have lol
2020-09-25 23:27
I agree on how things work, but I'm talking about moral here, as I said people from outside brasil maybe dont know the guy and dont know how he is, and as we have strong media like RL and thorin always shitting on every br ever, you could have the wrong vision about the guy thats my point here, my point is, he wasnt like a secret agent using a cheat to win games and trying to not get caught and keep using that to be successful, rich and famous, and I back that for his behavior over the years, specially when they didnt had money and had oportunity to be assholes but didnt. believe in whatever you want tho, I'm presenting some facts but you decide your opinion, just presenting a little bit of the other side, while the whole media is shitting on him.
2020-09-25 23:36
Dude wtf do you mean? There is literally proof that he used the but if dead wants to prove that he didnt share that information to his teammates( still he is gonna remain banned but he will not be hated so much) he should do by releasing the teamspeak conversation so that we know that he didnt actually give them any info that round but all he does is make statements without any claim and only brazilians believe it because theyre too nationalistic whereas cs isnt a nationalistic thing Also thorin shits on everyone lol, he even did that to dev1ce cause thorin just wants something to make a video about, he doesnt hate anyone in particular
2020-09-27 09:23
kkkkkkk come to brazil
2020-09-26 21:53
France FrighTyyy
I prefer dead to be innocent rather than innocent being dead :O
2020-09-25 22:32
2020-09-25 22:37
"usually dirty people fail to pretend to be honest on their first chance" sorry there is no logic in this
2020-09-25 22:34
of course there is, oldschool LG was beating fnatic on a lan final, accepted to replay a round and lose the map, never said a word about it, attitudes like that are since day 1 bro, you feel the bullshit from far away, if u follow cs from day 1 you know how is dirty and who isnt. is the little details.
2020-09-25 22:37
I do not agree with your logic
2020-09-25 23:01
Why did MiBR even have in on the team in the first place. He just walks around aimlessly in flip flops
2020-09-25 22:35
The million-dollar question is: if he knew the bug was real and could potentially ruin entire tournaments months prior to this investigation, then why didn't he just simply report it immediately?
2020-09-25 22:35
dead is dead, innocent is innocent, that player from mad lions HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-09-25 22:40
2020-09-25 22:42
Brazil Catatauu
Too long for hltv, make it max 5 lines.
2020-09-25 22:40
expected from enzo generation, reddit is your place kid.
2020-09-25 22:42
Brazil Catatauu
You could just say Dead didnt cheat cuz on triumph game taco and kng can hear the guy going bathrooms so theres no reason for dead to tell anything to them.
2020-09-25 22:46
ye but kids nowdays are too stupid, this topic is just for smart kids read, reflect and see things way they are of course everyone who blindly hates mibr etc will keep thinking he is a cheater and will want death penalty for him LOL
2020-09-25 22:55
he isn't innocent because he used it. Others didn't.
2020-09-25 22:44
Mibr fans are the really "toddys" imagine send death threats to another player, very mature lul
2020-09-25 22:55
using this """argument""" and being a choke clan fan just shows how enzo you are, thanks for proving my point.
2020-09-25 22:56
I cheer to a player not to a tag lol cry is free
2020-09-25 22:57
expected from Enzo Pietro, 12 yo, living with his parents. thank for your opinion enzo!!
2020-09-25 22:57
haha you are the real toddy, using Ad hominem arguments kkkkkk yes you are a real fer fan, you act like him
2020-09-25 23:00
you probably didnt even see cold before LG enzo kkkkkkk, nt
2020-09-25 23:02
ok go back to Gaules stream
2020-09-25 23:04
I knew u start watching him after he was the best in the world, is typical enzo behavior lmaooo kkkkkkkkk I dont watch gaules bro, you are the one who watch and u know it #TrIbU
2020-09-25 23:10
oh yeah i forgot Mibr fans don't like Gaules anymore because he said the truth about your shit team kkkkkkkk Gaules is next to receive death threats from 10 years "old school" fans.
2020-09-25 23:14
mibr excuse 600
2020-09-25 23:00
nah bro, this isnt the usual excuse we use, this is serious excuses would be like bad pc felps stand in boltz stand in fallen didnt sleep well fer cant hear fnx partying too much taco going bald etc
2020-09-25 23:03
The dead is is the opposite of innocents. It is the last stage of corruption.
2020-09-25 23:08
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2020-09-25 23:11
Finland Jodecast
brazilian malding
2020-09-25 23:12
why are you talking about him like you are on a first-name basis with him, he doesn't know you, and you definitely know him. The only thing you know about him is his outward actions in the current, and that displays him as a cunt. Just like when steel fucked up he looked like a cunt. If dead wants to admit it and show that he has improved himself years from now just like what steel did, sure we will be willing to forgive him. for now, go fuck yourself
2020-09-25 23:21
first, I've been playing cs in br since 1.5 I'm not friends with dead, but thats irrelevant to the point of the topic second, I used steel as example in the context of my "text", steel is a known piece of shit for a long time, not only because of his scandal, and matchfixing is 9999999999999999999999999x worse for CS than any other act, it ruins the whole industry. third: people always jump quick to shit on people, the way you are talking here, I already know u dont give af and is just enjoying the situation. and very polite from your side, I can feel your anger LMAO, reported for being a hateful pc warrior, reddit is your place kid, hltv isnt about that. peace
2020-09-25 23:33
first, it is entirely relevant, in the OP you acted like you new dead on a personal level and said he wasn't a bad person. If you are objectively reaching any other conclusion than he is a piece of shit from the clips and the way he has acted on social media then i don't know what to tell you second, I wouldn't say match-fixing is "9999999999999999999999999x" worse than what dead did, dead also got a more reasonable punishment and wasn't banned to set an example. You also didn't address that I said he shouldn't be labeled as a piece of shit forever. If he wants to make up for it, apologize, and admit his wrongdoings, then sure. But in the current situation, he seems more focused on the legacy he will leave with blind followers of mibr than the entire csgo scene. Steel fucked up, eventually owned up to it, and began working with a team that wouldn't be able to compete at the highest level but to help young players learn the ropes of the competitive scene, and that is the legacy he will leave behind. third, I don't enjoy the situation, I enjoyed watching both mibr and furia, even though it was tough seeing mibr lose and don't think they are as responsible for the chaos situation as people make them out to be, dead really fucked up and he ABSOLUTELY deserves the punishment that he got especially if he is trying to double down and say he did not do anything wrong. you are right I was rude, and I apologize, but I don't see how you move through life as a sheep, viewing dead as this all righteous human being that cannot do wrong.
2020-09-26 01:17
dead is not innocent! dead - innocent -
2020-09-25 23:28
2020-09-25 23:30
Confirmed. Very smart +1
2020-09-25 23:32
200 iq
2020-09-25 23:42
Lithuania KingOfPing
u right, dead are innocent if somebody kill without any reason or die in accidents
2020-09-25 23:30
he is still virgin?
2020-09-25 23:31
nice try MIBR fan
2020-09-25 23:42
The hashtags ruined it man
2020-09-25 23:51
Shut the fuck up you fucking idiot. He's as innocent as Hitler saying he has nothing against the Jews.
2020-09-25 23:52
If it's self-defense then innocent.
2020-09-26 00:13
mad br fan cuz mibr disbanded
2020-09-26 01:19
he is inocent because gabriel twoleito said to do it 100x100 i bet my house
2020-09-26 01:31
Dead is brazilian,innocent is polish, ergo dead is not innocent
2020-09-26 20:29
fucking hell you stole my meme 1 minute before me ;( i legit didnt even read your comment :DDDD
2020-09-26 20:31
0/8 innocent is polish
2020-09-26 20:30
Why Innocent is dead
2020-09-26 21:55
He shouldnt be allowed back, hopefully no one salaries that guy.
2020-09-26 21:57
He cheated. Shut up.
2020-09-27 09:27
dead is not innocent, he is not polish
2020-09-27 09:28
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