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TL needs an awper
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Denmark plast1cccccc this is why TL will never get back to top 1 in NA with grim and stewie
2020-09-26 20:20
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Poland JKG
They need awper since JDM days 2019 Liquid with tier1 awper instead of stewie2iq would've been just the best of all time without a doubt
2020-09-26 20:22
United States Magma_44
yes this is why cerq and brehze would have made the greatest team of all time
2020-09-26 20:23
I've wanted brehze and cerq to join liquid for a long ass time, but I can't really see the probable move here... no one on that team would be able to IGL if stewie is gone. Stewie is the only hype factor that team has got even despite being an underwhelming player. Brehze with stewie's hype factor and average leading skills would be perfect, unfortunately every single one of the players would be a quiet nerd in reality.
2020-09-26 20:29
just make NA FaZe daps - IGL CeRq - AWPer EliGE - Rifler Ethan/Brehze/NAF/Twistzz - Rifler tarik/Stewie - Support
2020-09-27 03:52
xaxaxaxaxaxxa daps
2020-09-28 00:53
best IGL NA
2020-09-28 00:54
he is washed up trash with 0 iq and tier 5 aim kkkkkkkkk
2020-09-28 00:54
if he is 0 iq than rest of liquid is negative iq kkkkkkkkkk jajajajjaja now go to sleep becasue you dont know cs
2020-09-28 00:55
2020-09-28 00:56
ethan can and has been a support player lmao elige entry cerq awp ethan support naf lurk and secondary awp tabsen igl (he was in na when he was on nrg, liquid really should’ve gotten him)
2020-09-28 01:02
ethan supports equally to coldzera did in mibr or twistzz does in liquid that is not support that is just rifling defensive a support is someone who takes bitch roles and does whatever the team wants them to do like : Rpk, tarik, tizian, rush, amanek, nbk, chrisj etc
2020-09-28 04:19
ethan isn’t the type of player who’s opposed to taking bitch roles if it means his team is winning. i don’t remember a single instance where there’s been drama involved with him or him being called a baiter like brehze (because brehze is a trade fragger). also, xyp9x takes the worst roles too so it’s not impossible to have a good rating when you’re playing bad roles he has the perfect mindset for a support player and if you’ve watched interviews, most people praise him for being a team player
2020-09-28 05:32
"also, xyp9x takes the worst roles too so it’s not impossible to have a good rating when you’re playing bad roles" Never said xyp9x isnt support just didnt mention him and being support doesnt mean you gotta have bad stats and no ethan cant support than you would rather have someone like tarik that actually does whatever for the team ethan is too good to be a support
2020-09-28 15:21
true, would have been mind blowing how good that squad would have been! will go down in history as one of the saddest roster moves to never happen.
2020-09-26 20:32
"this is why TL will never get back to top 1 in NA with grim and stewie" this is just fucking stupid to say lol There is literally no reason to believe that when LAN comes back liquid couldn't get to #1 in NA I agree with you about the awp but liquid isn't some unsavable roster now lol
2020-09-26 20:23
when stewy was igl for c9, it was pre astralis meta now back as an igl he hasn't evolved, he still playing with his c9 mindset and its not good enough. Grim might be a good choice but i think TL need a support instead because the TL core can and will do it better than Grim Let twists go back to an entry with elige behind him and trading. Naf goes to lurking and closing. If they want to keep stew, pickup an igl instead of grim. Stew is an excellent hype man and entry(even if he doesn't get frags he gets alot of space for his team) An awp is crucial for the meta now as well so unless Naf or stew takes up the awp full time, they should remove Stew for an dedicated awp. Keep the core trio, their and insane core get the supportive elements proper igl and support maybe supportive awp and TL can get back on top.
2020-09-26 20:37
tarik even IGL'd when they won the major
2020-09-27 03:53
wait he did? bruh no one on the c9 roster looks like an igl
2020-09-27 06:17
tarik god tier igl best IGL in NA won 1 major! Seangares 0 major IGL, tarik MAJOR IGL
2020-09-28 00:45
i'm kinda mad that this nerd actually bothered to write it like a fucking thesis for a master's degree but yeah he's not wrong. I say get autimatic, idk who leaves
2020-09-26 20:25
United States Magma_44
autimatic is overrated, i'd say anyone on TL except maybe stewie is better than him rn
2020-09-26 20:26
but he awps
2020-09-26 22:45
United States Magma_44
he awps the same way NAF does. he's good with it and pretty solid, but he's not best as an awper
2020-09-27 03:25
stopped reading at "reddit"
2020-09-26 20:25
its a good post with valid evidence to the claim.
2020-09-26 20:30
OK ty kind stranger
2020-09-26 20:31
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2020-09-26 20:39
i think they can definitely become #1 in NA when LAN comes back, but they won't get back to their former selves
2020-09-26 20:30
i don't think will even with lan back. their confidence is crushed right now. If they start losing first 2 or 3 tournaments especially against eu teams roster change incoming
2020-09-26 20:43
2020-09-26 20:46
Pakistan LoOuU2
I agree with this and I see the point that reddit post is making but I don't fully agree to it. Yes awp is a very impact full weapon but when you have the best 3 players of a region in a single team who are more than good at rifling and then your fourth is another up and coming rifler, the awp isn't gonna get many chances to strike anyway. Problem is when you miss basic shots and flicks, like Naf was doing yesterday. It ain't necessary for their success to set up or rely upon the awper but all matters is that the awp shot connects when it supposed to. If you are holding apps on Inferno since the start of round and miss the shot on your guy which is basically a simple flick or even a simple click if you are quick enough, that's the problem. They still do need an awper though.
2020-09-26 20:32
United States raymoney
I agree. In 2019 most of Liquid's dominance can actually be attributed to the Kreig meta. Liquid is likely one of the most stacked raw skill rosters of all time and the introduction of the Kreig allowed them to take duels and use their aim to fuck up AWPers. Without the Kreig, Liquid is left with no way to shut down an AWPer, and in the current meta, that results in you getting fucked by pretty much any team.
2020-09-26 20:41
-stew +cerq
2020-09-26 20:43
+osee maybe?
2020-09-26 20:48
he's not leaving his team for TL if he didn't leave for C9.
2020-09-26 20:51
i mean,thats an big opportunity for him. maybe he will change his mind
2020-09-26 20:52
they need a top tier awper AND top tier igl -stewie +ex6tenz
2020-09-27 03:31
sodaH | 
Estonia rafio
Awp is a weapon for cowards, of course the best NA team does not have cowards in their roster. The only choice is to bribe Valve to remove the gun from future events.
2020-09-27 03:33
get cooper
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2020-09-28 00:53
stewie is wasting grim’s talent imo. hes playing roles that aren’t good for stats that nitr0 played like b anchor and even support on t side. if nitr0 wasn’t playing the shittiest roles he would easily have a 1.05+ rating. grim and elige’s favorite roles conflict with each other too much and if you watched his games in triumph, grim was always pushing aggressively and getting flash support from his teammates. that obviously doesn’t happen on liquid what liquid needs (that’s not from eg) is an actual igl and an actual tier 1 awper. no one else from na is good enough for liquid besides osee, floppy and junior (the former 2 doesn’t want to leave, the latter is a huge gamble) -stew and -grim (not because he’s bad because he can easily be a top 5-10 player if he’s in the right roles but right now he doesn’t fit into the lineup) and +bntet +acor (ideally it would be +tabsen and +cerq but we all know that isn’t happening) ez top 1 with their lineup
2020-09-28 01:11
Remove grim in 3 months roflmao
2020-09-28 05:16
because he can’t fit in the team? imagine having 2 entry riflers on the same team. ones obviously going to get screwed and because elige is elige he gets more of the resources hence why grims talent is being wasted. cutting naf and twistzz would be dumb because naf is the lurk and twistzz is the support grim can definitely find another top na team that pays big salary like geng to play for, where his talent won’t be wasted. awper is more important than more rifling firepower lmao
2020-09-28 05:30
People will probably lynch me now but: Liquid should remove Twistzz and Stewie2k, add Vanity + Xeppaa NAF - Lurker / 2nd AWPer Vanity - IGL / AWPer EliGE - Entry Grim - Rifler Xeppaa - Rifler This would be super interesting tbh. Vanity is not a bad IGL at all, Xeppaa is a young isch talent that we all know play so well.
2020-09-28 01:23
honestly just -stewie +vanity would be fine
2020-09-28 01:35
Yeah of course.
2020-09-28 01:37
Switzerland f3ni_
Tbh Stewie is worth more to the team than you might think. He always hypes them up etc.
2020-09-28 01:42
Grim is quite good with awp
2020-09-28 05:17
oSee deserves a chance in liquids roster, he has the talent but needs the right environment, liquid should adapt 6th player roster
2020-09-28 05:27
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