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GUERRI WTF?
Denmark fm100 
How is he being banned. Like cmon, he literally made a video where it was obvious af he was innocent? I dont understand how this is possible lol
2020-09-28 14:39
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lol u believe him ? lmaoooooooooooooooooo
2020-09-28 14:40
It's not about "believing" him, he literally PROVED Ridiculous ban
2020-09-28 14:47
i aLt TaBbeD aND sToOd bEHinD tHE PlAYerS 😂👌🏿
2020-09-28 14:54
Yes and he proves that he alt tabbed and posted the team communication of the whole match He IS innocent and by punishing an innocent ESIC loses some of its credibility mobile.twitter.com/JackOConnell2/status/..
2020-09-28 14:58
Would you also believe him if he said he can stand on water?
2020-09-28 15:01
I don't "believe" him I just saw the proofs that he showed so I KNOW that he didn't cheat I BELIEVE in apoka innocence because I know him and he is very honest
2020-09-28 15:03
As honest as the rest of the brazilian coaches hahaha, no bug no win for u 😂👌🏿
2020-09-28 15:05
Cringe 😂👌🏾
2020-09-28 15:07
Indeed, but nothing else expected by bug abusers 😂👌🏿
2020-09-28 15:09
#24
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Brazil ZerongBr
- bug abuser - jermany talking about it
2020-09-28 15:13
No german in the list mate, most honest and still best 👌🏿👌🏿
2020-09-28 15:14
#30
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Brazil ZerongBr
2k17
2020-09-28 15:25
2k20 x 8 😂😂 What an embarrassement honestly
2020-09-28 15:29
#38
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Brazil ZerongBr
2k17
2020-09-28 15:32
20 1x7 😂👌🏿
2020-09-28 15:35
so funny man i will laugh tomorrow
2020-09-28 15:36
Dishonest brazilians as expected
2020-09-28 15:37
nazista as expected
2020-09-28 15:41
Nice president u have nazista lel
2020-09-28 15:43
comunist german wtf axxaxaxx
2020-09-28 15:45
#50
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Brazil ZerongBr
2k02
2020-09-28 15:38
You will lose this game if u play it no mater how u try to turn it around. Germany >> Bra71l in any possible aspect
2020-09-28 15:41
how your country can lose 2 wars bro stupid as fuck xaxaxxaxxaxax
2020-09-28 15:42
can we assume that guerri is innocent so it can be another bra71l moment? :>
2020-09-28 15:32
Isnt it fun toying with them? Unreasonable as expected, probaly the most dishonest people out there
2020-09-28 15:36
i really hope that he is trying to troll aswell but we all know the terrifying truth that he is not
2020-09-28 15:57
bUg kkkkkkew
2020-09-28 15:35
#81
Xeppaa | 
Egypt w7tv
+1 wtf they cant learn from the past
2020-09-28 16:18
#44
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Sweden Lagge15
I wanna recall RLewis or HLTV taking up this video a week or two ago here they said that it does certainly look like he alt+tabbed but it isn't possible to prove since if he would use dual windows he could still see the game in that laggy mode on his 2nd monitor. So even if he is innocent it is nearly impossible to prove it
2020-09-28 15:36
RLULis ew disgusting but ok, even if you forget about this evidence, what about the full game communication that he showed?
2020-09-28 15:53
#79
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Sweden Lagge15
I haven't watched the clip with subtitles so I can't say anything about it. But ESIC got a period of appeals for a few weeks and I am sure Guerri, lmbt, RobbaN and some others will send in proper appeals
2020-09-28 16:14
#85
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Portugal Agricultor
well it is also impossible to prove he is guilty
2020-09-28 16:22
#103
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Sweden Lagge15
Right now the evidence is enough to prove he was in game, got the bug didn't call tech pause and stayed in the position. As of right now that is enough for a legitimate ban. I think lmbt got a stronger case since he wasn't even at his computer when it happened and it is provable since there is live recording on him being on desk
2020-09-28 17:25
#106
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Denmark gh00st
+1. The ban is fair and the concession is fair at the same level.
2020-09-28 19:33
Literally who ?
2020-09-28 14:40
#3
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Germany DEBlL
loord first reported it and now he is banned too, all cheaters should take responsibility
2020-09-28 14:40
how is loord banned? the guy literally started investigation
2020-09-28 14:41
= self reporting in among us
2020-09-28 14:45
Among us ew
2020-09-28 14:47
#15
RpK | 
Belgium RobinDG
If you have friends its Fun to play some games
2020-09-28 15:02
#22
Fors | 
Brazil ricca
lmaoooooooooooooooooooo
2020-09-28 15:09
ahahah
2020-09-28 15:30
It really not that hard to x out of game when you see bug
2020-09-28 14:41
#7
VINI | 
Brazil 1930
i think the ban is because coaches didn't report valve the bug - if you use the bug you get a longer period of ban, eg dead, hunden
2020-09-28 14:46
Eww, Pita literally wrote a message to Valve and he's still banned lol, like, ur wrong
2020-09-28 15:15
Did you even read what he said? lmao
2020-09-28 15:37
?????????????????? > think the ban is because coaches didn't report valve the bug Pita did it ( gyazo.com/0800971f16c4a438c30380679c4cad.. ) and still got banned lmao
2020-09-28 15:40
"if you use the bug you get a longer period of ban, eg dead, hunden"
2020-09-28 15:41
yep but he said that this thing accidently forced on the screen, and he didn't know how to act (and yeah, here are my thoughts by I do think he didn't gain any advantage with it) it's like with guerri case, when he clearly proved that he wasn't using this bug, it accidently appeared on the screen and he just alttabbed and went to coach his team from their backs to not gain any advantage (the only thing which is not similar is that pita cannot prove it => nobody can know if he gained any advantage or no, only if there's a ts recording). I can assure you that half of these bans are not reasonable and weird
2020-09-28 15:46
Also, Pita didn't get any concessions for reporting this bug back in a days = hence it makes no sense for ban periods
2020-09-28 15:49
i believe guerri but his video sadly did not prove enough he would have the same ingame stutters if he would play the game in windowed mode and click on the desktop, he then would still see the whole match again i believe guerri and i hope furia keeps holding on to him but i understand ESICs decision
2020-09-28 14:49
Shouldn't they be proving him guilty?
2020-09-28 15:13
esic has evidence that he knew about the bug and esic has evidence that he had the bug for a whole game without simply disconnecting thats enough
2020-09-28 15:33
#83
Xeppaa | 
Egypt w7tv
so valve should be the one banned? they knew this since 2017
2020-09-28 16:20
there were multiple coaching bugs in the past years and valve fixed many of them. software has bugs. its unavoidable. its normal. valve has no fault when half of the scene thinks they can get away with abusing it.
2020-09-28 16:30
#91
Xeppaa | 
Egypt w7tv
this one is on the market since 2015, valve is well known for not giving a shit about game integrity, just the fair slow progression associated w skin market and operations every coach that abused it should receive ban, but only proven if it was used for taking advantage, and players who used the info should also be punished
2020-09-28 16:32
there is simply no reasonable explaination why you should stay on the server when you know about the bug. ESIC issues these bans for doing exactly that - staying on the server when they experience the bug. and there is literally a in-engine demo of every one of these 37 coaches staying on the server when they experienced the bug. these bans are justified until proven otherwise.
2020-09-28 16:38
#95
Xeppaa | 
Egypt w7tv
well, it takes some time to reconnect to the game, if you're the coach you're worried about team's and enemy's economy, you lose several time and info to rejoin in the middle of a match, many coaches stay behind the players watching their screens instead on their own pc's, if you can't see your teammates screen in the bug cause you're literally stuck in some part of the map, at least you can TAB on your pc and not your teammates and not prejudice the game flow
2020-09-28 16:44
+1, windowed mode or the second monitor and yea, i believe him too, but his proof is not enough, so he should be banned even tho i dont like it :(
2020-09-28 15:38
#12
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Brazil YUB8
There's the 'IFs' in his situation that could only be proven if he had a CCTV record of the room. Idk, i think the audios and screen record allied by the fact that he's willing to cooperate should be enough to know he didn't abuse it but i guess they're banning him simply because he didn't quit the game.
2020-09-28 14:55
#19
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Russia VelsVivard
Investigation is not the undeniable proof from up above, they could be wrong as well, throwing bans left and right.
2020-09-28 15:07
#28
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Brazil Catatauu
MAMADO
2020-09-28 15:15
MANO,TU É?
2020-09-28 15:49
#93
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Brazil lortBR
he is...
2020-09-28 16:40
#29
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Brazil Mumuk
They are being banned for not disconecting from the server when it bugs, Dead say that, like they believe that he not gave any information for the players, he is just being banned for not disconecting, like the others
2020-09-28 15:18
#84
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Brazil Caiobkw
A hypothetical situation where the game glitches and the coach never see it and is always with the players. He would get banned since he did not disconnect. Very fair..... They are banning because a coach got a glitch and did not handle it perfectly, even though it might be their first time and they might not know what to do. A fine would be more acceptable since it would be just a warning to be more careful with these things. These parameters for banning don't seem right, at least what I understood.
2020-09-28 16:24
"if you had the chance to disconnect and you didn't, you put yourself in a position that goes against the integrity of the game" no matter if you innocence or not. The ban will just to prevent any more act of cheating. at least the minimum of 3 months ban will start from now when theres only online cs.
2020-09-28 15:26
#89
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Brazil _Awper
banning people for 3, 5, months even tho they didn't abuse anything is crazy, coachs can sue ESIC by this.
2020-09-28 16:30
yes they should charged him for less months I think for what he's done. But it is what it is. Can't go back to past to correct unintentional mistake either.
2020-09-28 19:17
guerri ban is pure bs,esic is just losing credibility here,the forze coach ban was shitty too,he got banned in a match where he wasn't even coaching forze,wtf "During the episodes with the bug in the match against the MIBR team, lmbt was working in the Maincast analytics studio," forZe state. "It should be noted that Sergey joined the analytics studio even before the start of our match, having previously logged into the server as a coach. We have the video recordings from the analyst desk from the same time when the bug happened. In them, we can see that he is watching forZe’s match on his phone. And also we have the official confirmation from Malta Vibes." hltv.org/news/30355/forze-challenge-lmbt.. imo they are a bunch of clowns that don't even do a serious investigation before banning ppl(and possibly ending their careers in esports too)they should get some heavy sues for those bullshits
2020-09-28 15:29
if u watched the first hltv interview about this bannin there was said that they are gonna ban guerri. so it was said like over 1 mont ago
2020-09-28 15:30
good thing they won epl before the ban or announcement took place
2020-09-28 15:31
How can he prove anything?
2020-09-28 15:36
bs he did not prove anything
2020-09-28 15:43
#62
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Brazil MrLucas
This whole esic situation is actually fkn ridiculous, for them to ban a professional with an accusation of cheating just because the guy didnt know how to react to a game bug, thats not even caused by him and without even considering if it affected the game is just absurd, they are fucking people carrers over something thats out of their control.
2020-09-28 15:46
The ban really doesn't matter, he's free in January 2021 when the winter break ends. In other words, the 3.75 month ban basically ends on December 20th 2020, might as well take it.
2020-09-28 16:57
#100
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Brazil MrLucas
yeah, I guess thats why there have not been many protests against these decisions, online cs, it’s not like it’s going to influence it much..
2020-09-28 16:59
yeah and the coach can still work with the team behind the scenes, he's just not allowed to join the server etc.
2020-09-28 17:03
Fake flag spotted
2020-09-28 15:49
#72
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Germany Zackst3rz
Guerri did nothing wrong
2020-09-28 15:56
he had two games where he did it and he was looking at six months but because of his video, the penalty was lowered to four months and he said in the video that he would accept punishment for the POSSIBILITY of cheating but he wanted to share an explanation
2020-09-28 16:29
'I will obey 100% of it', lmao, act of a bitch. It's like some faggots are throwing turds on you and you are just smile like everything is good! I love being humiliated!
2020-09-28 17:51
Never trust Brazilians
2020-09-28 16:45
#97
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Asia loveall
I believed his pov in his video but In think it wasn't sufficient and he himself is satisfied with the decision.
2020-09-28 16:46
Finally that cheating piece of shit gets banned
2020-09-28 17:05
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