I agree, they could just forbid it from this moment on without digging a thousand graves and keep going, anyone who gets caught from the moment of discovery would be permanently banned, but banning for the past mishandle is ridiculous and wrong.
I'd wait for the rest of the cases in a month and then individually re review cases that appealed. its real hard on their side to do this stuff, as if they let one guy off the hook, everyone else'll be upset and stuff
Yeah man. Forget about them using the bug because they were "confused" by having this bug and not reporting it. Nice.
yeah sure, they didnt cheat at all, nobody kekw
Its not like you can just activate it by accident lmao
I mean BIG players are still not banned, abusing a bug making a huge advantage for them.
but if you stuck in that bug for a round you get banned for 10months at least LUL
Valve doesn't know hot to handle a game, their reason
Many coaches reported the bug to the admin, and also to Valve. And still they were banned. Completely unfair. Most of them are legit and are being treated as cheaters.
I think they are doing the right thing so far.
What i mean by that is find ALL cases of the bug that looks like abuse and now let coaches defend themselves. And if the coach actually can make a case that shows he didnt abuse it, then unban him.
I havnt seen much but an example of a guy who i personally think shouldnt get punished is guerri.
csgo needs a new engine, current one is full of bugs and cheat vulnerability
I think they're doing the right thing. even though it's clear some of the coaches didn't exploit the bug, they still should quit the game and report the issue. Maybe the time they're giving is too much but they should be punished nonetheless.
True, many of them experienced the bug 1 round here, one there, these should be more analized.
The ones that used like hard legion should be banned.
They failed when they started handing out bans without looking at the context.
Dead gets 6.5 months, loord gets 6 months, robban gets 5.5 months.
Loord actually reported it. Robban got the bug in a 16-1 loss and dead used it multiple times in multiple tournaments, some of them recent and is still denying it. But in the end the sentence is pretty much the same in all 3 cases lol.
They can appeal the ban if they think they were wrongly banned.
My take on this is anyone from now on caught using the bug should be perma banned and anyone that clearly swayed the outcome of a match should be temp banned
I have a thread about this that im working on but here's some shit for you all to read
20% of evidence has been reviewed, leaving plenty of time for much more well known coaches such as xtqzzz, zews, zonic, keita and moses to be caught using it.
More facts: Previous coach of Hard Legion "zoneR" used the bug in SIXTEEN GAMES. Former mouz coach Rejin used the bug in 7 games. 45% of Rejin's punishment was pardoned for admitting and working to discover and fix the bug. This means the full value of Rejins punishment was supposed to be nearly 41 months, LONGER THAN ZONER, and he used it HALF AS MUCH.
Let's keep going. RobbaN and one of the FaZe members (rain) both say that he DID NOT speak for the ENTIRE MATCH due to the bug and FaZe went on to LOSE THE GAME 1-16. After experiencing the bug a second time, and confirming it was not a one-time thing, RobbaN reported the bug to ESL admins and they did nothing.
Final statement: Several coaches reported the bug to both ESIC and TO's and nothing was made public or reported by them until the three original bans. Also, most of these one-time cases occurred YEARS AGO. For example, if RobbaN received his ban on the day he DISCOVERED THE BUG, he would have been able to serve his time 5 TIMES OVER by now. Fucking unreal decision making by ESIC, I hope coaches and organizations take action and sue / fight against this shitty mismanaged organization that knew about the bug for years according to others. What a shame.
Valve is a joke. Bug has been there for years and they cant finf/fix it is fucking hilarious. Valve please delete your game and retire.
they should take back from those teams all trophys and money prizes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Cd48 where are you? :V
Heres the thing ur competing in a tourny ur supposed to knowwhat to do
It the coaches fault, why they did not say anything to Valve, even on twitter. They accept to use it, it a cheat and they deserve bans.
Cry is free !!
Use the bug, get banned, pretty simple and fair.
They realized something wasnt right and instead of doing something about it they went ahead and used whether it benefited them or not it gave them an upper hand so cry a little more about how unfair it is.
welcome to life
its how it works
Thos whole process is a joke. People getting banned without any sort of information given or based investigations despite POV demos. Theres no proff whatsoever if the coach provided the players information or not.
Theres a big processual problem where not all the evidences were collected and yet bans were applied.
I knew the flag before clicking!