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Croatia device_4_major_simple_how_many 
device is simply the best player to ever touch this game 1. 4 majors 2. most consistent player ever (always in top 20 since 2014) 3. could've been a badminton pro but chose to shit on everyone on cs
2020-09-29 01:25
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Badminton xd
2020-09-29 01:26
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Japan breasts
badminton is dope
2020-09-29 01:36
who says he would be pro lmao pathetic maybe 0.1 % chance he was amateur
2020-09-29 08:22
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Denmark JKTP
The biggest danish badminton club scouted him. Sure he could have flunked it, but that's like being asked to play for Liverpool or MC city/united of badminton. Might i remind you denmark is then 2nd/3rd best badminton country.
2020-09-29 10:10
Everyone has a story like that I know people who have been scouted by PL/BL clubs and trailed as young kids etc 1 % of them make it and yeah ofc denmark big in badminton, the budget tennis meanwhile sweden has big tennis legends, the real racket sport
2020-09-29 10:16
Sweden? I've heard of that before, isn't that a province of Denmark?
2020-09-29 11:46
Bigger empire than Denmark in Europe than Denmark ever had (Greenland not in Europe and useless) Better industry than denmark ever had, we made our own fighter jets, cars, two brands Volvo Saab Netherlands and Denmark 0 industry Flemish people NL colony only, never attacked europe only defenseless tribes
2020-09-29 12:27
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Netherlands Srednir
bruh we have a better industry than you have
2020-09-29 14:47
Tell me the name of your car brands and your fighter jets that you produce Oh wait Dont even have ur own names Donny lmao
2020-09-30 15:58
Sure Sweden outdoes denmark... not netherlands though.
2020-09-29 17:23
Denmark imigrant policy er dejlig. Dansk business er godt Sverige må vaere lorteland men det er de ende nordiske land med en industri
2020-09-30 15:59
The danish empire is much greater and older than the swedish "empire" i mean you never actually had an empire unlike us. We're the only country ever to rule the entirety of Scandinavia and raped you in every single 1v1 war ever fought with you. Greenland is also much more valuable than your arabic country with more minerals than your entire shithole of a country. Our industries are doing much better than yours in every metric possible: We have a significantly higher gdp per capita, have higher rated cities and universities, have the largest shipping company in the world "mærsk" the biggest wind turbine company in the world "Vestas" along with huge companies like Arla, Best Seller etc. etc. We are simply a much better version and actually know how to run our country unlike you social inept nerds
2020-09-29 20:44
Nice bait bro. Vestas... haha I worked at Vestas. Do you compare Vestas with Ikea, Volvo, Saab etc? Saab created world leading fighter jets and cars and u talk about Vestas? I mean what is this bait. Sweden had an empire in EUROPE Greenland counts for nothing upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/t..
2020-09-29 21:00
Vestas is the biggest wind turbine company in the world and it's not even close meanwhile Volvo and fucking Saab is a joke in the car industry and fucking Ikea? LMFAO. Btw Mærsk shits on all the companies you just mentioned if you wonna talk absolute numbers Sweden had irrelevant finland, you call that an empire LMFAO, Denmark made a viking capital in Great Britain and ruled it while also invading Paris forcing them to pay ransom. We're the biggest and oldest Kingdom in the world CURRENTLY.
2020-09-29 21:12
Saab is a joke? I said VESTAS HAS 6.6 BILLBION REVENUE: THAT IS NOTHING SAAB HAS 130 BILLION REVENUE YOU ARE JOKE Saab makes trucks, not cars anymore but trucks
2020-09-29 21:12
Do you even know maths? Sindsyg? 133 / 6.6 = ????
2020-09-29 21:13
Vestas revenue: 6.6 Billion Volvo revenue: 431.98 Billion Only 6500 % bigger, not a lot!
2020-09-29 21:01
You say that but only place sweden attacks is finland xDDD
2020-09-30 15:14
lmao
2020-09-29 15:01
Tennis was found 7 years later than badminton
2020-09-29 11:49
maybe but Tennis is the F1 of racket sports. All the rich famous ppl are there, Rolex etc Biggest money payout Björn Borg one of the biggest legends ever there is movie about him
2020-09-29 12:28
so everything in this world is about fame and money this doesn't make any sense since you say that its a budget version of badminton
2020-09-29 12:30
what? I said its the F1 of racket sport the king sport amongst rackets
2020-09-29 12:35
bus of money and famous people are there ? thats what you said
2020-10-01 00:07
well.... Asia soon gonna be the biggest in economy, badminton is BIG in asia.. badminton by far the coolest racket sport.. and the fastest... i rest my case.
2020-09-29 14:17
Best yes but the clothes women bear in Tennis does tie it 😂😂
2020-09-29 14:49
well. they also wear that in badminton my friend., but alot of them dosnt :D
2020-09-29 15:24
LOL not the matches Ive seen at least xD
2020-09-29 15:37
well. its more common for european players to wear skirts and stuff. watch some of the lower tier tournements, or just the danish league, there are some pretty young women ;)
2020-09-29 16:41
Bahaha
2020-09-29 18:27
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Denmark valt3rr
What known tennis players do you guys have????
2020-09-29 15:40
We are also good in Tenis? But sure, About 4 times as many people play badminton and more people watch the badminton OL so what are you on about? Why does it even matter? He was 15 when he was scouted for one of the largest badminton clubs and was going to enter the talent bracket. That's the same as idk if Ajax decided that a talent had proven enough to get on the real talent team.
2020-09-29 17:26
Agreed
2020-09-29 15:32
And still there is a higher chance that he would have made it - than anyone taking your posts serious...
2020-09-29 21:20
0/8 Don't dis any sports
2020-09-29 06:40
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Romania sky27
everything checks out
2020-09-29 09:13
OK
2020-09-29 12:06
"Tennis, always according to Pledge Sports, who in turn cites Topend Sports, is played by 60 million people worldwide. Badminton, on the other hand, would be played by around 220 million people worldwide. According to ESPN, badminton would be the second most popular sport in the world, only after soccer." Interesting fact that badminton is so popular, never would have guessed it
2020-09-29 13:34
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Japan breasts
lol i wonder how many of those 220 million are chinese tho
2020-09-29 14:15
Badminton is probably most of their "second sport" where they play soccer and basketball or maybe even other sports more on a daily basis, and then there comes badminton which is easy to get a hang of, and everyone can partcipate in it
2020-09-29 17:39
Easy mate. Device is amazing but he's not the goat. Edit: And no. You can't become a consistent badminton player when you have that stress-induced diarrhea problem or whatever it is he has.
2020-09-29 01:31
who is
2020-09-29 01:31
simple ofcourse. He has put up numbers for years that are better than device. It's a shame he doesn't have a team as good as device's but you can't argue with him putting up better stats in most areas.
2020-09-29 01:33
Who would u say is 2nd 🐐
2020-09-29 06:27
There is difference between the best of all time and the greatest of all time... And s1mple isn't the greatest of all time
2020-09-29 06:44
you mean s0mple?
2020-09-29 07:53
You could easily make the case tho.
2020-09-29 01:33
Well I mean; Sure you can. If we judge by trophies, prize money and mvp awards device is the goat. But in terms of raw stats ingame I think simple is better and has been for years. Edit: It's like how Miroslaw Klose has better world cup stats and more wc trophies than both Messi and Ronaldo. But I wouldn't call him better than the two others.
2020-09-29 01:37
Yeah but dev1ce has very good stats, the mvps, always on the HLTV top 20 and the trophy wins. He ticks every box. Also IMO the most important part of being the GOAT means you are consistently at the top for most of your career and device has done just that
2020-09-29 06:03
"simple is better and has been for years" So how did dev1ce have better rating than s1mple before 2018? And in 2015 and 2016 when dev1ce was good, the difference between s1mple and dev1ce's rating were very far apart, now rating doesnt matter? Youre talking about 2 years only where the difference in their stats were very close and youre acting as if s1mple was better than dev1ce since the day he touched csgo lol New***
2020-09-29 10:14
Messi's and ronaldo's trophies are not anyhow lesser than Krose's. If you're talking ab world cup yes, but club wise and career wise, he lacks a whole lot, on both individual achievments and team achievments
2020-09-29 17:42
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Ukraine arhan19926
XD lol what a pu$$y he is gets destroyed by little stress
2020-09-29 06:22
yes, what a pussy that he has hiatal hernia which he had no control over, while s1mple destroys his team with a stale personality and shouting at them, making them stress,
2020-09-29 08:10
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Ukraine arhan19926
heheheheh hes carrying navi not destroying it idiot may device meet soon with that diarhhea that he has LOL hemmarhoid boy
2020-09-29 09:26
ofc u can If u wake up early u dont stress in morning and dont get it
2020-09-29 08:21
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Netherlands atsook
s1mple is the goat ?? he didn't win any major and he won't win
2020-09-29 13:37
Device is by far the GOAT so far. Anyone who says otherwise (such as S1mple or zywoo GOATS) are the idiots who think CSGO is a 1v1 aim map game and that the best team is one made of 5 “Aimstars”
2020-09-29 06:01
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
lol, device goat? shut up. The goat is, of course, xizt or nivera, so shut up
2020-09-29 06:06
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Estonia qoznyyy
0/8
2020-09-29 07:25
#26
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
you are a 0/8 if you dont believe xizt is a goat, i can understand if you think nivera is a goat (xizt is more, but its ok if you think nivera is more). But saying 0/8 to this thing is stupid af, KID
2020-09-29 07:36
nivera lmao
2020-09-29 07:52
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1 i believe nivera is a secondary goat, but xizt its a god and everyone knows that
2020-09-29 16:13
-8/8
2020-09-30 08:00
+1 Xizt is the GOAT
2020-09-29 08:10
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
finally someone smart
2020-09-30 14:30
sorry but xizt is trash.... f0rest own the goat role for sure if you taking anyone from NiP!
2020-09-29 09:08
#187
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
shut up, LOSER, f0rest is good but not the best, Xizt bestest
2020-09-29 16:13
0/8
2020-09-29 10:57
+111
2020-09-29 15:32
#13
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Russia VelsVivard
s1mple is better, if we're talking about individual skill, there are no two ways about it. It's a fact. But if you talk about the teams achievements that they're playing for, then yes, device is much better. But I guess since you mentioned players, and not teams, it makes sense to talk about their own, individual skill, and not the accomplishments they accomplished as a team.
2020-09-29 06:08
+1 simple, zywoo and niko are in a whole different league individually imho
2020-09-29 14:11
smart mens +1
2020-09-30 08:05
Pretty much this, +1.
2020-09-29 15:06
+1 smart men on hltv, pretty rare
2020-09-30 10:33
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Germany NotJuan
how many top1
2020-09-29 06:11
#15
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Denmark 4vs0
i think the only thing that device haters use to justify him not being the goat is he doesn't have an HLTV #1 well 3 things about that 1. if hltv used the same algorithm to calculate 2014-2017 hltv rankings device would've been #1 in 2018 and 2019 2. device may not have been the best player for an entire year but there were definitely 3-6 month stretches where he was the best so to say he was never the best is just dumb 3. device was top 3 as a primary rifler and awper, no other player in csgo history has done that, closest was s1mple top 4 rifler, top 1 awper
2020-09-29 06:18
1. He would be #1 with HLTV 1.0? I doubt it. s1mple had insane rating 2018 But 1.0 sucked dude, thats why the changed it 2. Lol, in every single sport they always measure a year. NiKo was always the best for 2 months maybe every year he played 3. Competition wasnt as high back then when he was rifler even get_right won top 1 2014 lmao
2020-09-29 08:27
"3. Competition wasnt as high back then when he was rifler even get_right won top 1 2014 lmao"\ Are you retar*** ? You're a disgrace to that flair if you think that dude
2020-09-29 10:16
haha I wrote that just cause there are mostly kids here who think GTR was always a bot I know get right deserved top 1 and is a legend but he really didnt show this dominance when the scene improved His tricks only worked until 2015 Lurking 2012-2014 was like lurking in Faceit lvl 10 today U could literally backstab every rotation today everyone is ready for everything 240 hz didnt exist and trading was easier so playing a star rifle role was really good
2020-09-29 10:19
Cause he was too old to play? Have you even watched gtr play with the ak before the downfall of NIP? No one was as good as with him in spray control, every pro has a specialty dude. You cant say s1mple is a bad awper since his flicks arent as cool as kennyS both are insanely talented in their own way, the stats speak for themselves. If dev1ce was bad how did he get hltv top 3 in 2015 when s1mple was just a toxic kid? And i say this as a s1mple fan, i love s1mple more than dev1ce because s1mple totally changed his attitude to become one of the best players but he wasn't like that always
2020-09-29 10:20
Yeah I get what you mean, I agree All I am saying is that lurking was easier, and NiP played the best CS until 2013-2014 cause no one understood CS like these 1.6 gods GTR outlurked every team , but when the scene improved, that wasnt as easy anymore, then he got older as well ofc
2020-09-29 10:23
+1
2020-09-29 11:13
since device wasnt a lurker, how is this relevant?
2020-09-29 18:25
How is yours 1. even rellevant?
2020-09-29 11:26
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Ukraine arhan19926
yeah hes best at getiiing carried XD hes nothing without his team
2020-09-29 06:20
Lol Indian mad??
2020-09-29 06:38
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Nepal askyee
At least astralis are not baited by device to farm his stats
2020-09-29 07:07
if he baited his team he would have a 1.40 rating lol
2020-09-29 08:11
+1111111111
2020-09-29 10:59
true
2020-09-29 11:54
If a player wins 4 majors, it has nothing to do with getting carried. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 08:23
#59
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Ukraine arhan19926
ur iq<ur pp lenth in cm
2020-09-29 09:26
What did I say that was wrong? A player that is getting carried would be a 'burden'. Why isn't that burden replaced after 4 majors? Maybe the professional team know more about the game than arham19926 from hltv.org Hope this helps
2020-09-29 09:30
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Ukraine arhan19926
his individual skill is so less
2020-09-29 09:33
clueless af
2020-09-29 11:48
delusional af
2020-09-29 12:20
so a guy who has 15 MVPs has low individual skill? and im the delusional one?
2020-09-29 13:00
he's washed off now
2020-09-29 14:43
wtf are u on about lmfao
2020-09-29 21:28
wait till the next game and let the stress induced diarrhea show up
2020-09-30 03:15
laughing at another person's disorder... how funny
2020-09-30 10:24
how sad for him to take it as an excuse if not able to perform even the minimalistic that he does
2020-09-30 12:22
but he has 4 majors?
2020-09-30 12:32
he has stress induced diarrhea as well
2020-09-30 14:18
yeah and 4 majors and more money than you will ever have
2020-09-30 14:19
u his wife? 😂🤣
2020-09-30 14:20
ahaha!! funi))
2020-09-30 14:22
come on don't blush now
2020-09-30 15:35
says the ukrainian navi fan
2020-09-30 15:19
device fanboy keep calm dont stress or diarrhea will haunt u too
2020-09-30 15:36
+1
2020-09-29 10:54
1.17 career rating 1.29 impact o k
2020-09-29 11:57
thats around a good team having beast riflers can this petty awper carry a team though ,NO because he has very low individual skill and we can see that in fpl cause he cant have the luxury of good team there
2020-09-29 12:22
impact doesn't have much to do with the team but rather his contribution to it (entry, multi, clutches, etc) and the bigger the difference between the impact and rating (with impact being higher) the more relevant the player is to the team's successes. His is the highest out of every Astralis player (of all time)
2020-09-29 12:45
Do you know what impact even stands for?? There's now way you can justify having a great impact and having bad individual skill. That is literally impossible.
2020-09-29 12:50
you dont even know what impact means you low iq fool
2020-09-29 13:02
okay i'll see that in the next Astralis match fanboys where that impact is
2020-09-29 14:45
of course he can carry and he did. and all we can see in fpl is that he is a top 10 player statistically in there and has a higher kpr than niko and sometimes even outfragged p0mple.
2020-09-29 18:23
🤣 🤣 🤣 in ur dreams fanboy let us see where he stands in the next Astralis match then come back here
2020-09-30 03:13
we don't need to see him in his next Astralis match when he's performed this way for 5+ years and has 4 majors -_-
2020-09-30 15:26
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 my a§§
2020-09-30 15:37
Dev1ce very bad player Kappa
2020-09-29 07:36
+1
2020-09-29 14:44
Device < Nivera
2020-09-29 07:43
+11111111111111111111111111111111
2020-09-29 07:56
Device is a good player, but put him into any other team and most of "his" achievements probably will disappear, because those are team's achievements in the first place. Good team is more than just 5 players gathered together, it's a comprehensive whole, and device is doing good job as a part of the team, but don't underestimate his teammates who also do a great job which, among other matters, is an important factor of device's performance.
2020-09-29 08:09
yes, GeT_RiGhTs skill in 2013 and 2014 has faded, half the ppl dont give him credit for it, but pronax is very much remembered for 3 majors and having the best team in the world in 2015
2020-09-29 08:13
No one will remember players because of their HLTV rating, but they will get remembered for winning trophies, the aim of competition. Let's think from the players perspectives, what will they prefer? - Having a good HLTV rating but no trophies - Lot's of trophies Hope this helps
2020-09-29 08:25
I remember that s1mple was top1 and top2 two years in a row, zywoo was top1, coldzera was top1. I don't remember device's rankings in that rating (edit: just remembered that he placed #2 in the same year where s1mple was #1). I remember that Astralis won 4 Majors but don't remember exact Astralis lineups at each Major they win. As for second part of your comment, you didn't understand anything from my previous post.
2020-09-29 08:37
That's just you though, most fans remember teams that win majors and it means a whole lot more than an individual award. Plus it's not exactly hard to remember a top1 winner considering there has been a very little amount compared to major winners. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 08:46
I said, that I remember the team, huh? Not players though. It seems you're not able to read. Have a good day, sir.
2020-09-29 08:51
You don't have to remember the replaceable employees that are picked up by the organization to do one job, to win trophies, not individual rewards. Now back to my other point (Unrelated but relevant) Would you rather win a major and a lot of trophies or a lot of individual rewards and little trophies?
2020-09-29 08:54
Repeating the same thing doesn't make your point more relevant. I answered to your point before you even replied. If you don't see it, well, so be it.
2020-09-29 09:19
All you said was opinion based, 'if he was in another team'.
2020-09-29 09:22
Of course it's opinion based, I didn't pretend to anything else and not that arrogant to claim that something I said is nothing but pure fact, lmao.
2020-09-29 10:12
Everything I said was a fact.
2020-09-29 10:17
I don't care about your delusions, it's your own problem.
2020-09-29 10:23
Thats bullshit because there are only two different cores of astralis that had won the majors lmao, one core with kjaerbye the other is the same core with magisk. Astralis is prob the least changed team in csgo history that was the mist dominant and yet you cant remember the players lmao
2020-09-29 09:40
Not everybody is a nerd who remembers every single detail. Team name is easier to remember/remind than all player names. I remember Astralis won 4 Majors, but I wouldn't answer how many Majors they won with exactly the same lineup. Core is the exact reason to don't pay too much attention to their roster changes: I just know that the core was the same and that's enough for me.
2020-09-29 10:07
If you watch the sport, esport how the hell dont you remember the team players that won wtf. Do you watch the matches or no? I can remember most of the players that won the world cups in football and thats 11+ players for each world cup lmao
2020-09-29 12:16
You're just a nolifer nerd, so expected. I watch some matches, but not often.
2020-09-29 12:28
Dude i can tell you the players that won wc's, nba teams and their champs, f1 teams and their drivers, and other sports as well its not that hard if you are interested in sports Also if you watch only some of the matches when a major happens for example so ofc you wont remember anything
2020-09-29 13:29
Well, I'm not a fan of watching sports and never watched any tbh. Now I just don't have too much time for this. I still watch CS sometimes, but only because I love the game and played it a lot in the past.
2020-09-29 13:59
Most fans lmao Relevant arguments lets go Everything i said are facts lets go Have you made some ducking survey? Its just your opinion lmao nothing else
2020-09-29 11:37
Competition is all about trophies, not individual awards. I stated that players who have won lots of trophies have had a better career than ones who win individual awards but little trophies. I don't care about remembering them, I slipped up there. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 14:46
CS is a team game, lmao. Nobody plays 1vs5, nobody wins anything alone. If you want to compare trophies then you compare teams. If you want to compare players, then you compare individual skill and stats.
2020-09-29 15:04
Good players play for good teams, good teams win trophies. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 15:08
Wtf is this silly "logic"? There is a difference between "good", "better" and "best", maybe you should check it in glossary, hope this will help. s1mple and zywoo are both better than device, both play in good teams. Does it mean that Na`Vi and Vitality are better than Astralis? Not necessary. CS is a team game and there are many different factors. If everything was that simple, somebody would have spent some millions to buy 5 best players in the world to make unbeatable team, yet as we can see the "superteam" concept is far from perfect on practice.
2020-09-29 15:25
I'm not on about super teams, they are shit. I judge players on trophies as that's what they are remembered for. The typical viewer might glorify individual brilliance but a smart guy like me judges players on actual achievements, not stats on HLTV.org. how well does that go? Wonder why s1mple and zywoos teammates all have bad ratings? The aim of the game is to win a trophy, not stat pad while baiting your team. I am not going to deny that zywoo and s1mple are better than device, that's a given. But as of right now, device has left a bigger crater in the pro scene, something to remember. The most consistent player in the game. Greatest of all time. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 15:32
CS is a team game. It's not Quake or some other game where you play 1on1 and can directly compare player to player by achievements and trophies.
2020-09-29 15:34
When talking about greatness you can. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 15:35
Astralis 4 Majors Astralis 5 players 4/5 = 0.8 Majors per player Not even 1 Major... Player device = 0 Majors. :((
2020-09-29 15:39
ok
2020-09-29 15:41
Ok.
2020-09-29 15:42
+999999999999999999999999 the best player to have a consistent top1 performance was cold 16-17 of course s1mple and niko fans, kids that dont understand anything about cs will say "uhhh but device never won top 1 mimimi" device consistency is insane, he is the best player ever by far, not about numbers but decision making, adapting to newer metas etc device GOAT. #devve_4_majors_s1mple_0_major
2020-09-29 08:15
thank you mr IarentThinkThatz 😎👍
2020-09-29 10:55
Thanks for opinion.
2020-09-29 11:38
He is the most consistent player of all time, but Simple and Zywoo for example are much more skilled mechanically
2020-09-29 08:15
#43
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Brazil arunino
"3. could've been a badminton pro but chose to shit on everyone on cs" from this point we can see this was a bait xD 0/8
2020-09-29 08:24
Ok
2020-09-29 08:36
Lmao, if it wasnt for glaive and zonic and their insane strats, device wouldnt won shit. People thinking device carry astralis lol. Has best clutcher in the team, best igl on the scene, best coach on the scene and dupprhee is in top 3 entry fraggers alongside magisk being top 3 anchor players. U dont have a clue what ur talking about boy.
2020-09-29 09:21
I think your forgot how much he carried when glaive wasnt around in astralis lmao
2020-09-29 09:39
did he win a major without glaive? Btw he didnt carry nearly as good as s1mple and zywoo
2020-09-30 02:47
Did s1mple win a major or zywoo? Ofc not winning tournaments like these you need a good team, a good player will win you games a good team will win you tournaments. And yes he did hard carry tsm and early astralis pretty fking hard but people forget that. People forget that until glaive came dupreeh and xypex were only decent players not the world class players that they are now cause karrigan didnt know how to use them.
2020-09-30 10:56
That guy is reta** af man, he is probably someone who started watching cs since late 17 or 18 max That's why he doesn't even realize that dev1ce was the best player in tsm and dig without the so called "awp abusing and baiting" or "boring strats of astralis"
2020-09-30 15:12
1.Explain how he got mvps and hltv top 3 without gla1ve and zonic then 2.Learn English 3rd world reta***
2020-09-29 10:17
explain to me how he didnt win a major until glaive came if he was so good.
2020-09-30 02:47
Explain to me how hasn't s1mple,zywoo haven't won a major so far if theyre the best of 2018 and 19?
2020-09-30 15:10
when glaive was on leave he was shit and coulnt carry the team. Meanwhile s1mple and zywoo do it almost every game.
2020-09-30 15:22
Are you stupid? Where was s1mple and zywoo when dev1ce was carrying tsm dig and early astralis? Where was s1mple and zywoo when gtr was known as the spray god Where was s1mple and zywoo when kennyS was the best awper? Do you think a player can be in the same form for his entire career? If you do, you should logout from hltv and come back when you understand the game better. Zywoo has been famous for only a year and s1mple has been known as the best player only since 2018 but dev1ce was already in the hltv top 20 in 14 15 16 17 and was above s1mple, when s1mple was acting like a toxic kid and still on ban for cheating What do you have to say about that? Just because s1mple has succeeded dev1ce by a small margin(1 rank) in 18 and 19, it doesnt make his entire career better than dev1ce's
2020-09-30 15:25
ofc when your igl suddenly leaves the team, the new igl has to make new plays and those are going to be hard to adapt to in a few weeks...
2020-09-30 15:28
magisk on the same lvl as apex and boomich if not better igl. There is not much of difference between them.
2020-09-30 15:32
magisk is a new IGL, the plays will be slightly different and everyone has to adjust. While taking that in, Magisk also will slightly drop in form due to the new role he has to take on
2020-09-30 15:44
he was in top 20 every year from 2014, i dont believe glaive was around in the period
2020-09-29 11:11
Majors without glaive?
2020-09-29 11:44
top 20 every year))
2020-09-29 11:52
#56
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Denmark Raskoiano
Device is amazing, for me he is like Beckham in football, one of the best there have ever been, but not quite up there with messi and ronaldo.
2020-09-29 09:20
That is very true If he wins one top 1 he will be CS:GO GOAT But that will not happen, his chance was 2019 but then came ZywOo
2020-09-29 10:21
Also in 2018 but s1mple was a bit better (by stats, not by individual skill. by skill he was and still is way ahead).
2020-09-29 14:18
#235
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Denmark Raskoiano
Yeah, not this year for sure, maybe 2021 ;)
2020-09-29 18:37
no CSGO player peek way way before 26 normally lose skill when 27 but there are excepions, f0rest etc , dupreeh still best entry
2020-09-29 18:39
no one is up there with s1mple and zywoo.
2020-09-29 18:20
+1 zywoo is better than s1mple tbh considering his age and he is so successful just after year(not this year last year)
2020-09-30 15:27
#61
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Germany den7
not even best in denmark .. so 0/8
2020-09-29 09:31
+1
2020-09-29 11:04
stupid brain, flair checks out.
2020-09-29 18:20
#236
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Denmark Raskoiano
Who is a better Danish Awper than device?
2020-09-29 18:39
#262
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Germany den7
i didnt say awper
2020-09-30 08:27
If device wins only ONE top 1 he will be CS:GO GOAT but I dont think that will happen It certainly wont happen this year next year he is 26 and astralis wont dominate as 2018 again I think/hope
2020-09-29 10:21
#83
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Australia zi8gzag
Depends how much you weight team success. Even then S1mple carried liquid to 2 major playoffs.
2020-09-29 10:33
#92
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Finland AleksiBOT
More like s0mple choked 2 major finals
2020-09-29 11:10
Yes, but firstly he carried so u basically agree with the comm?
2020-09-29 11:52
+1
2020-09-29 11:56
Team success should be rated much higher than individual awards. The aim of competition is to win trophies, not stat pad stats on HLTV.org Hope this helps
2020-09-29 14:49
I kinda agree, but can't help but feel that if s1mple had a Ukrainian Astralis and galive he would be considered the GOAT without question.
2020-09-29 16:05
Easily, just needs ambition and the mental strength to move country again
2020-09-29 16:25
Maybe, but that would still be in another language + culture - something devve didnt have to deal w
2020-09-29 17:08
device also carried his team to multiple titles and good runs.
2020-09-29 18:19
I like device more since s1mple never won something big. sure s1mple might be the better aim and all. but device is just pure god. Easy the best player in cs.
2020-09-29 11:03
+1
2020-09-29 11:56
Device is carried by gla1ve, meanwhile s1mple and zywoo carry their teams for throughout their whole careers
2020-09-29 11:08
#91
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Finland AleksiBOT
*s1mple and zywoo bait
2020-09-29 11:09
Yes yes ov kors. Device is a great player with a great legacy, but nowhere close to zywoo and s1mple in terms of mechanical skill
2020-09-29 11:11
+111
2020-09-29 11:11
Everything checks out.
2020-09-29 14:14
I assume you're baiting here, if so then fair. But...# A player who has won 4 majors and a truck load of trophies isn't getting carried. Being 'carried' would mean he is a burden to the team. If he was a burden he would get replaced before he won 4 majors right? Use logic. Hope this helps
2020-09-29 14:48
Without gla1ve astralis wouldn’t even reach the half of what they have now
2020-09-29 15:56
That's true but they all have the trophies and legacy
2020-09-29 16:24
2020-09-29 17:43
who cares about mechanical skill when you have 4 majors? Hope this helps
2020-09-29 18:15
Arent we talking about who is better?
2020-09-29 18:20
He is like bench player who won Major trophies
2020-09-29 11:16
LMAO
2020-09-29 14:13
what?
2020-09-29 18:18
were you born with the stupid?
2020-09-29 21:34
Device camps to protect his tree from the other a pees he is not a good player
2020-09-29 11:21
#99
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Ukraine s1mple|
I'm better)
2020-09-29 11:24
#100
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Serbia eliiiiii_
ppl act like holding angles is easy on top 10 level where the main angles get premollied and preflashed a nanosecond before an execute lmao
2020-09-29 11:24
It's called badminton not goodminton lmao
2020-09-29 11:45
+1 dev4ce goat and not even baiter like s0mple
2020-09-29 12:04
nice name mens)
2020-09-29 12:49
ty men, u 2))
2020-09-30 01:12
He can’t be the best individual to touch the game. He doesn’t even have 1 top 1. Considering there are 2 players with multiple top 1s, device isn’t best individual.
2020-09-29 14:48
He is the GOAT tho.. Least atm
2020-09-29 15:39
#161
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Denmark Kon10R
The difference is that Dev1ce is playing for his team, where other teams are playing for their hero. One is winning trophies, Majors and prizes, the other makes the crowd go wild with flashy stuff that looks cool. I love watching S1mple, and other great players but individual superhero stuff is not winning in a team game.
2020-09-29 15:15
4 majors title 2 major MVP one of the few who attended all majors in the annual HLTV top 5 5 years in a row Yes he is the GOAT of cs:go so far. Even if don't like his playstyle much, I have to admit it.
2020-09-29 15:28
zero top1
2020-09-29 15:43
4 actually, as I said
2020-09-29 16:42
zero hltv top 1 as i said
2020-09-29 20:21
That's not what you said. And sadly for you, cs:go is a team game.
2020-09-29 20:31
so? you are saying he is goat but he never been top1 in hltv i have no problem you saying astralis goat team
2020-09-29 20:43
How is badminton related to cs?
2020-09-29 15:34
Dev0ce is overrated Dev0ce best baiter
2020-09-29 15:37
0/8 rather just a part of the best team to ever touch the game. There's a reason he has never been and never will be #1 of any year.
2020-09-29 15:42
#201
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United States tatsumi
Just like there’s a reason s0mple will never win a major.
2020-09-29 17:31
Because he isn't part of the best team to ever touch the game? I mean ofc, if device is in there and s1mple isn't it makes sense. Can't have 2 best teams, that'd be ridiculous.
2020-09-29 18:02
device is simply the best player to ever touch this game 1. 4 majors thx GOD Gla1ve carrying that overrated trash what was he before god gla1ve overrated trash choker
2020-09-29 15:43
ok olof
2020-09-29 16:04
"what was he before god gla1ve" better than olof.
2020-09-30 18:18
badminton is nice
2020-09-29 15:45
I think that Dupreeh is better than him, but ok
2020-09-29 15:56
delusional.
2020-09-29 18:16
8/8 you baited almost the entire HLTV community. nice mens)))
2020-09-29 16:45
xaxaxa thank
2020-09-29 17:53
The greatest yes (because of his consistency and achievments) The best no (because we had more skilled players on scene)
2020-09-29 16:48
this, name checks out
2020-09-30 15:23
4. hottest grillfreund ever
2020-09-29 17:09
simp
2020-09-29 17:33
Not the best player, there are more individually skilled players But he is perhaps the greatest player to touch the game because of how consistent he was and what he's achieved.
2020-09-29 17:10
no he is not
2020-09-29 17:33
s1mple is best player ever touched game(2018 best player ever)
2020-09-29 17:34
oBo is better lol
2020-09-29 17:34
his neck
2020-09-29 18:03
yeah, device god (4 majors btw)
2020-09-29 18:19
>best player to ever touch this game >never been best even in 1 year xD
2020-09-29 18:19
lmaoo
2020-09-29 18:22
#229
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United States tatsumi
He was robbed of his #1 spot in 2018 cuz s0mple fanboys would be raging
2020-09-29 18:28
2020-09-29 18:31
#233
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United States tatsumi
How many major mvps tho?
2020-09-29 18:32
+1 rekt
2020-09-29 21:37
ALLU > DEVICE
2020-09-29 18:20
sad truth device is the most underrated player in this game
2020-09-29 18:21
"underrated" was i supposed to laugh
2020-09-29 18:23
when people talk about the best of all time, they don't even consider device, and that's what I mean by underrated
2020-09-29 18:37
+1
2020-09-29 18:31
#224
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United States AYYAtOMiC
he didn't choose to quit badminton, he had an injury that prevented him from playing.
2020-09-29 18:22
yeah it's from a pasta
2020-09-29 21:25
badminton, lmao
2020-09-29 18:32
#243
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Nepal sasukeee
0 top #1 lmao 😂
2020-09-29 21:00
#248
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Ukraine Prem1al
Good player and 4x major winner just because playing in good team Astralis. He is nothing in comparison with S1MPLE. Hope S1mple will win major with NaVi as fast as possible!!!
2020-09-29 21:17
ok quick sidenote: he won't
2020-09-29 21:25
Badminton
2020-09-30 14:21
Firstly, who is hating Device? Secondly, I respect your opinion, friend. Device is definitely a contender for a "GOAT" status player.
2020-09-30 14:35
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