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WHY RUSSIANS DONT LIKE NAVI?
Arthas | 
Russia Mad_bettor 
there's a general trend where most Russians kinda subconsciously oppose Navi. Technically looking at the behaviour of the Spirit players and their results it makes no sense to put them on the pedestal as the Russian team to represent CIS but in reality, it seems that way. Now there are threads saying shit like spirit > navi, wtf is happening?
2020-09-29 17:30
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Navi even has russian flag on hltv page since only one mazepa left: hltv.org/team/4608/natus-vincere
2020-09-29 17:31
#50
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Ukraine bbooqq
HLTV flags don't have any value at all. They are made for simplicity, so people could roughly understand the basic info about CS:GO roster. Most russians understand this (except you), so washed up ones start to "subconsciously hate" NAVI since it's ukrainian organization. Smarter ones are doing the opposite and support the team.
2020-09-30 21:44
#59
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara
hahaha ukrainian organization registered in Cyprus
2020-10-01 15:21
Don't you have a law that fights tax havens like Cyprus? It would be good for Ukraine to get the taxes that Navi can pay i guess
2020-10-06 08:26
corruption has joined the chat :)))
2020-10-07 15:57
#131
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
ahah nice) +1
2020-10-07 12:33
#60
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Russia Drapery
Why does it matter if the org is ukrainian if the core is Russian?
2020-10-01 15:26
Idk, but this fact causes a very strong butthurt in some brainwashed Russians
2020-10-06 10:06
#74
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Sweden shonk
FaZe american, Liquid dutch, G2 Spanish, fnatic british NaVi has different lineups and players all over the world. Their NaVi line-up is almost fully russian. But everyone would cheer for NaVi even if they had 5 ukrainians like they did before. Doesnt change the fact that their team is russian.
2020-10-03 21:33
#82
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Hungary szia
MAD Lions spanish, mouz german, Godsent swedish, OG danish
2020-10-03 22:02
#84
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Sweden shonk
Ye, exactly. coL, 100t, OpTic NA Gambit based in London
2020-10-03 22:08
#93
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Kazakhstan abilmansur
Gambit London? really I thought is a Russian organization Syman -> K23 is a Kazakh holder I guess
2020-10-06 09:02
#94
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Sweden shonk
It is a russian org. But its based/registered in London, idk why
2020-10-06 09:06
Because it was british but then russian telecommunication company bought them.
2020-10-06 09:20
NaVi founder was kazak. Guy from Almaty founded arbalet.UA(navi) in December 2009.
2020-10-03 21:22
#75
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Sweden shonk
Nursultan* :)
2020-10-03 21:35
ZeroGravity and Starix are the founders, Arbalet was main sponsor
2020-10-06 10:18
Murat "Arbalet" Zhumashevich founded Arbalet.UA/NaVi, k23. His son Damir Muratti owner Tengri
2020-10-06 12:23
MAZEPA XAXXAXAXAXA
2020-10-06 12:24
#2
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Maldives skillinator
doctor can help with being delusional
2020-09-29 17:31
#5
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Denmark Patreon
cause best player in navi is ukranian kkkkk
2020-09-29 17:33
NT bandera
2020-09-29 17:41
didn't you consider a lot of people as well russians hate navi cuz of s1mple and not cuz of flag? lmao
2020-10-06 10:49
+1
2020-09-30 18:28
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-10-01 15:15
kkkkkkkkkkk
2020-10-06 10:09
#6
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Russia ToughGuy
as a russian im saying this is bullshit
2020-09-29 17:34
navi fangay
2020-10-01 15:15
delusional
2020-10-06 08:26
#8
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CIS sexiestuser
because navi is not a likeable team for anyone above the age of 12, pretty simple
2020-09-29 17:36
#79
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North America AlanSmith
+1
2020-10-03 21:42
#83
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Hungary szia
+1 They dont win anything. Their fans are just s1mple kiddies who watch s1mple frag movies.
2020-10-03 22:03
#95
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Romania alexinio05
-1, have you seen GODFECTO? I'm getting wet when thinking about him ngl
2020-10-06 09:06
+8
2020-10-06 09:21
Because Virtus.Pro>Navi?
2020-09-29 17:35
Why would russians cheer for kazakh team?
2020-09-29 17:48
Isint Virtus.Pro foundation in Maskva?
2020-09-29 17:49
VP is russian org, but most of people used to know since avangar that its kazakh team, but now it’s already CIS team cause adreN left
2020-10-07 15:23
#61
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Latvia YungPan666
why not?
2020-10-01 15:27
#68
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Russia win73ry
Because it’s not Kazakh, but CIS.
2020-10-03 21:18
You and rusians are kazakophobia? Ok
2020-10-03 21:24
It's CIS team
2020-10-06 10:10
Why not? 🧐
2020-10-06 12:32
The real question is who like na'vi at all? 5 of them are not very likable characters
2020-09-29 17:37
Boombla is kinda disgusting but the rest are ok
2020-09-29 17:49
#45
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Spain Medlar
Boombl4 is a cool guy.
2020-09-30 21:04
Boombl4 probably the only likeable one of them.
2020-10-01 15:17
elec also nice
2020-10-01 15:20
Truuuue
2020-09-29 18:03
#13
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
I like Navi so much :) Can I create a thread with a title 'Why Russians like Navi so much'?
2020-09-29 17:40
#92
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Lithuania Airforlife
+1
2020-10-06 08:43
#15
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Morocco bobby_j
because navi sucks
2020-09-29 17:43
Nice edit
2020-09-29 17:49
#21
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Morocco bobby_j
Edit: typo Edit 2: thanks for the gold kind stranger!
2020-09-29 17:59
Its pretty obvious. Navi is basicly S1mple and S1imple is basicly Navi. So Navi is Ukrainian. Case closed.
2020-09-29 17:55
NT mazepa
2020-09-29 17:59
Na'Vi as an org is Ukrainian even without s1mple
2020-09-29 18:00
and thanks god for that.
2020-09-29 19:17
org is Ukrainian but roster is Russian.
2020-09-30 18:29
Roaster is mixed
2020-10-06 10:12
#137
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
idk for me he is on 50-70% vata
2020-10-07 12:54
whole navi stuff is vata by default
2020-10-07 14:20
#141
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
sad but true
2020-10-07 15:19
4 bots + godtronic That's why
2020-09-29 18:03
pathetic troll
2020-09-29 19:32
You Mean , your nickname irl?
2020-09-29 20:36
easy now little fanboy.. time to move out of moms basement
2020-09-30 18:27
Oh no, really?
2020-09-30 20:48
#28
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Latvia ErleN_
Spirit > NaVi
2020-09-29 18:05
#29
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Russia KaStrEek
U nas prosto strana prevrashaetsya v anarhiy.
2020-09-29 18:06
Na'Vi fans in play offs - 😜😁👏👏👏 (sosat' yrodi sosat') Na'Vi fans after final - 😡🤬(cyka pidarasi blyyaaat')
2020-10-06 10:44
XDDDDDDD Blya, ya predstovlyayu to, kak oni proigrali Astralisam na Faceite v Londone
2020-10-06 12:40
#127
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Russia KaStrEek
zachem ti mne eto napisal??? u menya sovsem drugaya reakciya bila
2020-10-07 12:13
I don't dislike Na`Vi, but Boombl4 is shit IGL, no strats no proper calls flamie performs once a year Can't say anything bad about s1mple and elec. Perfecto also improved a lot.
2020-09-29 18:07
This +1 I wish they keep s1mple, electronic and Perfecto and make that core work with proper IGL and consistent player instead of Flamie. Perfecto is playing good for his roles and it may also be good change for electronic.
2020-09-30 20:55
+1 maybe find a good igl that does strat and a consistent player to replace flamie
2020-10-01 15:16
#67
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Brazil HazzyS
+1
2020-10-03 21:14
Sadly no igls in russia
2020-10-03 21:30
What about Jerry? Or maybe chopper?
2020-10-06 09:25
#135
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
t2 igls, but if be honestly boombla worse as igl
2020-10-07 12:43
I think so too, but boombl4 as a player is better than flamie when he doesn't IGL, so I feel like kicking flamie and adding a dedicated IGL makes the most sense if Na'Vi want to progress from where they are right now.
2020-10-07 15:05
+1
2020-10-01 15:20
+8
2020-10-06 09:22
#136
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
+1, boombla was chosen by navi cuz he "good guy" but thats not mean that he igl, I guess one of biggest mistake in navi history.
2020-10-07 12:46
navi atm includes five arrogant players with high ego i miss funny zeus and soulful edward :(
2020-09-30 21:02
How are perfecto,flamie electronic and boombl4 arrogant?Tf did they do? You could make a case for s1mple,but even he doesnt say anything veryarrogant publicly nowadays
2020-09-30 21:10
+1
2020-10-03 21:29
#134
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
+1
2020-10-07 12:43
#42
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United Kingdom Sir_Jey01
To be honest, Russians, Ukrainians see only the mistakes of navi, we are not used to have a good team in CIS, but when Navi play and Russian or Ukrainian or fan of navi watching the game, he will definitely support navi, and after he goes to comments to write some shit about their mistakes:D
2020-09-30 21:03
I don`t support them, speak for yourself
2020-09-30 21:24
where the fuck did you get this from
2020-09-30 21:03
#44
perk  | 
Finland eIe
Na'Vi is a Ukrainian org 🤔
2020-09-30 21:03
Navi has the biggest fan base in Russia and the biggest hate base in Russia, no wonder they will show up, that's happening every time any Russia team besides NaVi hits top 20, tons of "supporters" shows up talking shit bout NaVi
2020-09-30 21:13
imo it's been the fact that during the beginning of the online era navi was doing trash (tbh part of that was the cheating upset by Hard Legion) yet Spirit had these hype players performing pretty well As well spirit was putting up quite a bit of upsets often while Navi was underwhelming from expectations
2020-09-30 21:17
FORSAKEN > NAVI 😂
2020-10-01 15:20
Russia is Pseudo-Ukraine with Finnic and Turkic peoples
2020-10-03 20:49
muscovy*, but accurate enough
2020-10-03 21:05
#77
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Sweden shonk
Signed up 2020-08-16 no wonder there Learn history, ty
2020-10-03 21:38
#78
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Sweden shonk
Just like Finland is pseudo Swedish/Russian/Urgic/Baltic
2020-10-03 21:41
#111
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Ukraine W1ldHunt
Ruske detected
2020-10-06 10:16
#126
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Sweden shonk
Signed up 2020-09-26
2020-10-06 17:45
You so stupid baiter 0/8
2020-10-03 21:08
#132
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
+1
2020-10-07 12:34
CIS SCENE IS TRASH
2020-10-03 21:14
+1
2020-10-03 21:45
fakeflag?
2020-10-06 08:05
I just dont like line up Its not a born for winning team. It was in 1.6, now its just skilled young kids with low mentality
2020-10-03 21:28
#76
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Sweden shonk
Most russians cheer for NaVi since 1.6 lol
2020-10-03 21:36
the team is washed up imo
2020-10-03 21:45
#86
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Kazakhstan RiNat1337
Because Navi loses all time on Grand Final.
2020-10-06 08:15
I don't hate navi at all, but in the finals I was cheering for Astralis, because I really like this team
2020-10-06 08:35
Because, NaVi is nothing without s1mple . s1mple = NaVi
2020-10-06 09:11
#97
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Finland AleksiBOT
Maybe beacuse one guy from Ukraine is baiting 4 russians and Russians users here dont like getting controlled by budget Russia.
2020-10-06 09:19
Double 0/8
2020-10-06 10:17
the only double you'll get is hours a week hehe
2020-10-06 10:36
#117
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Russia tonky
I do agree
2020-10-06 10:43
Na`vi Ukraine team what so ever
2020-10-06 10:01
I think ukrainians have more reasons to hate this team than russians
2020-10-06 10:16
Its not true, i like this team.
2020-10-06 10:19
Spirit much better than Navi. Spirit non toxic. Navi very toxic and chockers. Go spirit down with navi
2020-10-06 10:46
MAZEPA COMEHERE
2020-10-06 12:25
cause 4 russians are basically slaves for p1mple baiting them left and right kkkkkkk
2020-10-07 12:18
I think sometimes s1mple is a bit like lebron premiami. He needs to leave Navi, join a superteam, win a couple of majors, get a bit out of his own head, go back to navi and give them a major.
2020-10-07 12:27
I don't dislike Na'Vi, i just don't cheer for them anymore since Zeus, Edward and GuardiaN left. Many Russian people hates Na'Vi because of different reasons. Someone just don't like s1mple as person. Someone don't like them because org is Ukrainian, staff is also Ukrainian. And etc.
2020-10-07 12:31
#133
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
you guess if you navi`s hater then all vata are same haters like you) 500k viewers was on last epl final, about what hate you talking about?
2020-10-07 12:40
there are millions of vata around the world so 500k is nothing
2020-10-07 14:19
#142
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
but what the point then create thread - vata hate navi))
2020-10-07 15:21
there is a lot of vata (vatniks) among the citizens of countries other than moscovia ("russia")
2020-10-07 15:59
#148
B1T | 
Europe Gigska
but still. main vata power located in moscovia. If looking example Ukraine I guess now about 20-30% are vata.
2020-10-07 16:31
I agree with you in general
2020-10-07 16:41
I will cheer for them as soon as they kick an ultimate baiter and start playing for the fans and not for one person who wants to boost his fake stats
2020-10-07 15:26
Still 99% of people thats are fan of NAVI is russian.. or maybe a little less because Ukraine is the same but. However hating any team is just outright dumb so.
2020-10-07 15:27
Spirit
1.36
Nemiga
3.26
TIGER
2.25
Wings Up
1.65
FURIA
1.47
G2
2.62
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