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"LeBron GOAT"
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Bosnia and Herzegovina hercegoVAC_ 
Not yet, MJ is still ahead imo. AD has been better than him this post season Reasons why MJ>LeBron: Better scorer (and by a pretty big margin) Better shooter (when not including 3s bcuz they weren't thing back than) Better finisher (League was much more tough and fouls weren't called that much) Better free throw shooter Better defense All that while being shorter and much lighter, only categories where Bron is better are: Assists (by a big margin) 3pt (MJ didnt even shot 3 ball but Bron is better) Rebounds (taller, bigger, forward) Also MJ 5 MVPs, Bron 3 MVPs MJ 6/6 finals, Bron 3/10 MJ 6 Finals MVPs, Bron 3 FMVPs MJ 1X DPOY, 9X All-Deffense, Bron 1X All-Deffense MJ 8 Scoring Titles, Bron 1 MJ 13 seasons, Bron 17 seasons (correct me if I'm wrong) Saw a thread about "Bron GOAT" There is a decent chance that he can come pretty close to MJ by the time he retires, but for now, he isn't even around imo
2020-10-01 18:06
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#1
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Israel ROSAAAAAAAN
reddit is the place for YOUUUUUUUUUUUU
2020-10-01 18:07
Was low-key triggered when saw thread guy making a thread about Bron being Goat thats why I made it Also this is off topic so I have freedom to post anything I want so gtfo
2020-10-01 18:08
#4
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Israel ROSAAAAAAAN
ok((
2020-10-01 18:09
Stfu redditor
2020-10-02 19:14
ok(
2020-10-02 19:14
2020-10-02 19:15
2020-10-02 19:16
"AD has been better than him this post season" no he isnt lol...
2020-10-01 18:08
#5
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Ukraine Taira
yes he is lol
2020-10-01 18:09
no he isnt
2020-10-01 18:09
he isn't bruh, stop the disrespect, Lakers start losing everytime when Lebron's on the bench
2020-10-01 18:22
#29
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Ukraine Taira
ahahaha did u even watch PO? it was case in regular season but after Rondo is back its WRONG argument.
2020-10-01 18:29
+1
2020-10-01 18:09
He is, people just see that lebron is leading him in assists and claim he was better, watch the actual games AD always running floor More consistent with his shooting Idk but my point is: I feel like Lakers would be worse without Davis than without Leborn imo
2020-10-01 18:11
i do watch games. its clearly you who just doesnt like lebron. lebron is overall better player in off season. you will see yourself when he will get his fmvp... and btw who is creating all that space for ad? who is doing all that work? dont look only on points. look at +-, efficiency, stats, most likely even rebounds where ad is lately kinda meh etc. lebron is ahead of ad without a doubt for fmvp race. and lakers without lebron? who would be there? do you srsly think that they would be the same with only rondo and bradley:D? please
2020-10-01 18:14
I mean that's just my opinion, I dont hate lebron, but I just feel like AD is more valuable to lakers than he is, I feel his impact more
2020-10-01 18:19
like lillard said: bron is making the game so easy for his team mates... imo ad will be lakers main star in upcomming years. he is nuts and he will be in his prime while lebron is 35 but lebron is and still will be as valuable as ad overall. especially bcs of his leadership
2020-10-01 18:27
One's playmaker and a somewhat scorer, other's scorer, rebounder and a defender (even tho bron's been great at defense as well in post season) They're both equally valuable to lakers I still feel like, lebron still doesn't want to overtake games, when his team needs him. Great example was the game 3 of finals. But yeah, lakers without lebron<lakers without ad imo by a close margin
2020-10-05 19:57
#40
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Portugal absolut19
AD has been the better Laker player this ssn
2020-10-01 18:28
no way
2020-10-01 18:28
He was
2020-10-03 10:18
nope
2020-10-03 10:19
#6
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Lithuania SeNSeO
Kobe goat still so who car
2020-10-01 18:09
who
2020-10-01 18:11
Budget MJ (rip btw for real)
2020-10-01 18:17
a ok
2020-10-01 18:32
Debatable tbh Offensively he is definitely more skilled than Leborn and I would give him edge over MJ, he was more explosive and was dragging his team in the clutch very often, but his accolades aren't good enough imo, he would be 3rd/tied with lebron in top 5, also Kareem and Magic would be up there
2020-10-01 18:13
Are you saying kobe is the 2nd or 3rd greatest player of all time? xDDDDD
2020-10-03 10:40
#132
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United States tatsumi
+1 he would’ve been the goat if he didn’t get that rape accusation
2020-10-04 19:39
dycha is more goated than faker
2020-10-01 18:09
MJ_CARRIED_1_TEAM_LEBRON_4_TEAMS
2020-10-01 18:10
Thats cuz MJ just liked Bulls more, he could have left probably a lot of times, but even if things weren't working out in bulls by the time he joined untill 90s he didnt give up and just wanted championship with bulls Bron gave up on cavs and left for heat cuz he couldn't carry them to championship, than came back to cavs just to leave for lakers later on
2020-10-01 18:16
#56
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Myanmar Guzhas
Not that he couldn't carry them, but Cavs org didn't let him. he brought a team full of nobodies to the finals in 2006-7 season, just to get beaten by prime spurs. MJ leadership < Lebron leadership
2020-10-01 18:39
+1
2020-10-02 13:57
nobody who witnessed mj's time would ever say lebron is the goat. this whole argument is just stupid. 6-0 vs 3-6
2020-10-01 18:17
Facts
2020-10-01 18:17
lebron ain't the GOAT for me because all he does is jump ship to a team with bonafide stars or he joins a team and tells the owners to buy the best players for him to win (Heat with Dwade and bosh, Bulls with kyrie and love, and now with AD). Never saw MJ do that So the argument that it is amazing to win with 3 different teams is moot because all he does is use his brand power to sign top players as well as decent role players that he likes. He has also played in the Eastern conference for most of his career which in recent times (last 1-2 decades) has been a lot weaker compared to the western conference so I think his chances of being in the finals has been inflated as well
2020-10-01 18:20
truee
2020-10-01 18:16
That's because mj was fortunate enough, that his organization was able to build a decent team for him, yet cleveland was fking incompetent. That's stupid argument.
2020-10-05 20:00
Jordan's early bulls team was shit literally just him. He also kept getting fucked by the pistons (87-90) when the young players got drafted. But instead of jumping ship he stuck with the young players the bulls drafted and turned them into a dynasty. Lebron's cavs got 1st place in the eastern conference in 2009-10 but lost to the celtics in the semi finals. He then left the cavs to join a heat dynasty. Then he left the heat to join the cavs with kyrie and love, then he left to join the lakers and eventually persuaded AD to join him there as well. All over the span of roughly 9 years. I have nothing more to say on the matter. If you cannot see the difference then so be it
2020-10-05 20:09
Yeah, and lebron was in finals in 07, beating the great defensive minded pistons on the road. With what help? Big Z? Also, okay fine. Let's take clevelend's 09-10 team. Who was going to develop there? Where was that team going? The team was good, because it had lebron in it, and since he recognized that it was literally going nowhere, it was the right thing to do in my mind. Nothin has changed since rookie season of lebron, what makes you think anything would've changed? My point is, if your staff is incompetent enough to make decisions for you own good, you should be making it.
2020-10-05 20:50
bron 5x all defense first bron 4 mvp also bron better finisher bron better defender bron robbed from dpoy he finished 2nd but marc gasol was dpoy and he didnt made all defence first team bron has more all nba first teams also u said bron 3/10 finals without playing that finals lmfao bron has better fg% and 3pt% bron defeated 73-9 team
2020-10-01 18:18
Bron better defener-LMAO, only 1 all deffense first team Bron might seem better finisher cuz he is more heavy but as mentioned 90s deffense was ruthless near the basket, fouls were not called that much, game was 2x more physical Also MJ had best vertical in recorded history Was wrong on finals sry I knew it was smth around 10 3pt percentage irrelevant since 3pts weren't thing in 90s Also fg percentage better on lebron just cuz mj played on wizards when he was like 40-42, dont count wizzards and it'll be prob pretty close While bron defeated 73-9 team MJ made his team 72-10 and won 2 3 peats lmao
2020-10-01 18:25
5 all defence first team mj retired and chiago became 2nd round exit lost in 7 games lebron left cleveland cleveland became shittiest team in nba 3pt percentage irrelevant since 3pts weren't thing in 90s excuse for mj riders
2020-10-01 18:33
Wasn’t kyrie also traded for basically nothing tho
2020-10-01 18:38
first exit and 2nd exit
2020-10-01 18:38
MJ HAS 10 TIMES ALL DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM AND A DPOY MJ HAS 5 MVPS WTF IS THIS ARGUMENT BRO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW NBA HISTORY XD
2020-10-01 18:40
lebron has 4 mvps and robbed from dpoy media robbed him with marc gasol gasol selected as a dpoy from media but coaches voted him for 2nd team all defence what?
2020-10-01 21:17
Mj has 10x all defence first team so? Is there any relevant sg exist in jordan's era
2020-10-02 14:01
mj lived in an era where there's no hand check rules (if you know what that is, but you can google it casual nba fan) let me show u a list of notable Shooting Guards or players of the same height that is tasked to be defended by MJ: Clyde Drexler Reggie Miller Mitch Richmond John Starks Jeff Hornacek and the list goes on and btw, MJ is known for wanting to guard the best player of a certain team, his defensive skill set is not limited to his own position match up if you actually watch NBA you know all these i need to you stop riding lebron's dick
2020-10-02 18:26
MJ is known for wanting to guard the best player of a certain team, his defensive skill set is not limited to his own position match up lebron defends all five and defends best player in clutch lebron played against kd+steph+klay all of them better than shit list
2020-10-02 19:10
MJ played against tons of hall of famers, lebron even getting pushed by an IG model (kuzma) just to play D lol gfycat.com/honoredabandonedgelada-basket..
2020-10-02 19:30
tons of hall of famers 95-96 finals only gary payton 96-97 finals stockton+malone 97-98 finals stockton+malone 92-93 barkley 91-92 clyde drexler lebron 2011-2012 russ harden kd all mvps and hofs 2012-2013 manu+kawhi+tim duncan+parker 2015-2016 steph+klay+draymond lebron beat them they were 73-9
2020-10-02 19:39
im done with u bro > HOF >Draymond green choose 1 u clearly dont know anything about basketball
2020-10-02 20:55
Dpoy Champ Several time all star
2020-10-02 22:24
lul
2020-10-05 17:43
Bro u said john starks is relevant shooting guard lmfao Tell me about dark days what mj done without pippen
2020-10-02 22:28
#62
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Myanmar Guzhas
+ preach
2020-10-01 18:41
people who says that lebron is the goat are the people who wants to give him ice cream for reaching the finals but not winning it, bronsexuals keep on saying "year17" but when MJ was of the same age MJ won MVP, Finals MVP, Championship, All NBA_first team, 1st All defensive team, lebron had all the skillset to beat MJ, the only edge MJ had is that he is a certified WINNER, which makes a great edge + Lebron aint even better than kobe, ESPN just likes hyping lebron for some unexplainable reason which makes me cringe, year 17 my ass
2020-10-01 18:20
swept in first rounds without scottie lmfao
2020-10-01 18:22
huhu without scottie what are you gonna bring up bro? lebron "reached" finals back in 2007? you really like praising him for not winning lmao, get off his dick bro lebron switched team because he got dumpstered by the celtics, he needed Wade and Bosh, Kyrie and Love, and now AD. When MJ was dumpstered by the Bad Boys of Pistons before he didnt leave the Bulls, even though he got smashed for several years, he came back stronger and even swept the Pistons, he did not do the Lebron move if you are talking about help we all know who got more help btw your "GOAT" on his prime lost to a 33 year old Dirk Nowitzki and outscored by Jason Terry on the main stage back in 2011
2020-10-01 18:26
your goat swept in first round lost some nonamers in bucks and came back from retirement and lost to baby shaq he needed dennis rodman after that carry him
2020-10-01 18:26
how many times do i need to remind you the first round wins doesnt have trophies lost to some no namer bucks back in 1985???? MJ just got drafted back in 1984, lebron didnt even make it to the playoffs back in 2004, year after he got drafted and when MJ came from retirement he isnt even on his top form since he played a different game competitively as well bro if you aint know shit on basketball history you better shut your mouth and praising lebron for not winning it all is like praising yourself for getting near the girl you admire and not having her as your girlfriend, lol
2020-10-01 18:33
keep praising mj for losing in first round then
2020-10-01 18:35
+11
2020-10-01 18:27
mj beat them bcuz scottie hit his peek and guys became old
2020-10-01 18:29
Yeah because the Bulls recruited guys like Pippen, Grant, Rodman and Kukoc while he was there. Lebron had to go up against an all star stacked team in Celtics with Ilgauskas as his 2nd option lmao.
2020-10-01 18:38
you know, if i had a GOAT coach(Phil Jackson) i wouldnt leave either
2020-10-01 22:08
+1 lmao wannabe boomers lebron haters doesnt admit that thinking market of chiago is same as cleveland lmfao
2020-10-02 19:44
Lebron lost 6 finals even with kyrie, wade and fox on his teams lmao
2020-10-01 18:27
who is fox? lebron lost to kd+steph+klay+iggy+draymond
2020-10-01 18:28
Wait meant ray allen wtff sry
2020-10-01 22:03
thats not even true lmao
2020-10-01 18:34
Kobe is arguably better I agree
2020-10-01 18:28
kobe lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lebron has higher 3pt% fg% more points assists rebounds averages kobe choked 3-1 lead lebron came from 3-1 lead
2020-10-01 18:30
Dude you dont know a shit about basketball, u probably started watching this year, stats don't matter that much, just like in cs, jame has better stats than a lot of tier 1 player so that means he is better? No
2020-10-01 22:02
Stats dont mean a shit in cs, you can still win a round without even killing anybody, but it doesnt work like that in basketball LOL
2020-10-01 22:09
u said lebron has 3 mvp lebron is 3-10 in finals and also u said lebron has only 1 all defense all of them false and u questioning me lmfao and u compared cs go to basketball im done /closed
2020-10-01 22:17
bron never lost in first round for mj riders 6-0 argument when bron left cleveland cleveland became 60 win team to lottery team when jordan retired first chiago lost in 2nd round in 7 game series and scottie was 3rd in mvp racing
2020-10-01 18:20
2020-10-01 18:27
mj never got locked down by 5"10 jj barea in the nba finals
2020-10-04 19:34
Lebron never had a team that him shooting 3/18 from field and still his team blowout opponet in playoffs
2020-10-04 20:48
english?
2020-10-04 20:48
No argument ez
2020-10-04 20:49
i genuinely dont understand what you were trying to say
2020-10-04 20:50
basketball-reference.com/boxscores/19930.. Mj shoots 3-18 and still his team blowout opponet Lebron never had team like that
2020-10-04 20:54
how is his shooting % relevant? he still scored 22 and had 11 assists with 2 steals and blocks + was causing foul trouble for the knicks clown
2020-10-04 21:00
0/8 god scottie carried
2020-10-04 21:05
and next game mj dropped 54 on 60% shooting 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
2020-10-04 21:07
Expected from ball hog
2020-10-04 21:07
If scottie didnt carried that game they would down 0-3 and nobody has ever cameback from that
2020-10-04 21:06
if my aunt had balls shed be my uncle if lebron didnt get clowned by jj barea and 38 year old jason kidd he would have a case for goat
2020-10-04 21:10
lebron is racist
2020-10-01 18:20
#26
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Germany NotJuan
+1 ChrisJ GOAT
2020-10-01 18:21
#31
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Ukraine Taira
MJ Kobe >
2020-10-01 18:25
Michael Jackson better than lerbon? WTF mens
2020-10-01 18:31
Lebron is a good player ..that’s it
2020-10-01 18:33
noone calls him Bron you tard
2020-10-01 18:36
#53
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Denmark Almoe
pretending you've watched even 1 regular season MJ game
2020-10-01 18:37
most of them probably googled it.
2020-10-01 18:40
Nah ofc not but I watched last dance, a lot of yt videos, nba analysis, did researchs etc
2020-10-01 22:04
+1 lmao
2020-10-02 14:00
basketball omegalul real men play valorant.
2020-10-01 18:39
or overwatch. +1
2020-10-01 18:40
-1 reported.
2020-10-01 18:40
fuck you. reported.
2020-10-01 18:41
LeBron > MJ any day MJ wouldn't be able to solo carry 2018 cavs to the Finals
2020-10-02 14:01
yeah because 2018 cavs didnt exist in finals lol
2020-10-02 19:40
sorry dumbass at least check it from internet when you are writing stuf. Michael Jordan is a great player but there is no such way that he'd gotten those rings without pippen grant and roddman he cried at pistons when he was the only one tryin against him. But lebron never cried even when he had to take a whole team by himself so stfu
2020-10-05 12:30
+1 he would lost in first round like many times without pippen
2020-10-02 19:45
+1
2020-10-03 09:59
man 90s eastern conference>>>>2018 eastern conference wtf and80s
2020-10-03 10:03
yeah casuals like reggie miller makes ecf reggie miller wont be better than jr smith in today's game
2020-10-03 15:58
yes jr smith>reggie miller 200iq no need to discuss fanboy
2020-10-04 19:16
both streaky shooters jr more athletic in his prime
2020-10-04 19:18
are you crazy you know nothing about reggie miller, you cannot be serious lol
2020-10-04 19:19
basic ass shooter when no shooter was playing lmfao btw ai wont be better than it in today's game
2020-10-04 19:19
basic ass shooter??
2020-10-04 19:23
yes
2020-10-04 19:23
2020-10-04 19:26
Not better than klay or curry or durant and lebron go against all of them
2020-10-04 20:55
you said that jr smith>reggie miller but?
2020-10-05 07:27
He was already able to win 1 out of 4 finals and 2 did not have Durant. He lost to Dallas in 2011 also
2020-10-05 07:31
but lebron still has the potential to pass i can't deny it
2020-10-05 07:37
east was garbage in 2018
2020-10-03 10:02
Just like MJ without pippen
2020-10-03 10:14
just like LBJ without Bosh,David,Wade,Kyrie,Love,Allen, please see the truth they are all god players but 1.MJ 2.LBJ ı can prove it
2020-10-03 10:18
show me a team like cavs 2018 that MJ solo carried to the finals oh wait,he got thrown out 3 times in the 1st round
2020-10-03 10:26
2018 eastern teams were so bad, if -lebron +mj in 2018 mj would do the same in east, you should focus on vs underdog teams performances because 2011 LBJ was a shame but MJ never lost underdogs in finals, ofc LBJ is god player but after MJ, everybody say that sorry.
2020-10-03 10:31
yea,that's why LeBron never lost in the 1st round while MJ got swept twice without his superstars :)
2020-10-03 10:33
but mj played betterrr teams in playoffs, lebron played garbage teams in east, that does not prove lbj>mj
2020-10-03 10:34
and they are different style players mj is final player like kd lebron is like pippen like player that making everything. I'm a LBJ fan either
2020-10-03 10:36
pippen could kiss LeBron's shoes at best
2020-10-04 14:42
i am not saying this read again
2020-10-04 19:18
dude,u are saying mj is a final player yet lebron beats him in every stat,lol
2020-10-04 19:25
I mean lebron more carrier jordan more like the player who hit the last hit. Anyway, there is no need to discuss this anymore, both are very good players.
2020-10-04 19:41
more carrier = better,no?
2020-10-04 20:25
with bad teams LBJ>>MJ with avg teams MJ>LBJ with good teams MJ>>LBJ
2020-10-04 20:34
MJ got swept with avg teams
2020-10-04 20:54
but not same opponents
2020-10-05 07:25
LeBron beat #1 #2 #5 in 2018 while having a bad team,MJ got swept easily with avg team
2020-10-05 19:45
doesnt matter they are 1-2 or 5 still bad teams
2020-10-05 20:35
2011
2020-10-04 19:29
Still better to lose to prime Dirk than getting swept 2 times in 1st round
2020-10-04 19:34
locked down by 5"10 jj barea kkkkkkkkkkk
2020-10-04 19:34
Cleveland with lebron 60 win team Cleveland without lebron lottery team Bulls with mj 60 win team Bulls without mj 45-50 win team
2020-10-04 20:51
lebron locked down by 5"10 jj barea and 38 year old jason kidd in the nba finals
2020-10-04 20:54
lebron played against the best team that has ever touched the game in my opinion 2017 warriors and people wonder why he hasn't won more rings - he beat the 2016 warriors, the 73- and 9 (though some of the good players were hurt in the finals) And he came up against the best shooter of all time and the jr version of himself durant oh yeah and the second best shooter of all time lol and he did pretty fucking good i would say. hadn't it been for the warriors he would probably be the greatest by now
2020-10-05 12:38
#88
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Venezuela xoile
shame on you
2020-10-02 22:26
Le3-6
2020-10-02 22:43
#92
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China KoreanFan
He carried first two finals game, didn't he? Also with Davis ofc.
2020-10-03 10:02
LeBron lost 2011 finals mj never lost underdogs at finals.
2020-10-03 10:07
lebrons 4/10 and he was robbed of mvp multiple times but I still think mj is the goat
2020-10-03 10:09
On the basketball court both are equally good skillwise, what distinguishes them from each other is the mentality. Jordan was a born killer, he broke his opponents not only physically but also mentally. He took the last minute of the game on his own and was the most clutch player ever. Lebron never did that, even now AD rather takes the game winning shots than him. Only people who are too young to witness MJ will say Lebron is the goat, just because they want someone of "their generation" to be the goat.
2020-10-03 10:37
lebron has more game winners mj and kobe combined in playoffs
2020-10-04 14:43
if lebron wins back2back hes definitely tied with MJ, MJ and Lebron i wouldnt say close bc MJ is the best player for sure but lebron is behind by a lot, and if lebron wins a 3peat than hes better than MJ. Also, lebron is a better shooter than MJ u cant just disregard 3 pointers and lebron is a better finisher just because it was tougher back than doesnt mean MJ just gets to shit on lebron finishing wise, and MJ played 15 seasons not 13, he played 2 with wizards
2020-10-03 10:43
#109
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Lebanon Dogman69
MJ was reason NBA got big, especially outside NA
2020-10-03 10:44
lebron goat at lost finals
2020-10-03 16:37
#114
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Denmark twinseN
U cant compare anyone to MJ Easy as that
2020-10-04 14:47
LBJ must be compared more to Magic rather than MJ
2020-10-04 19:23
lebron cant be the goat because of 2011
2020-10-04 19:29
true
2020-10-04 19:31
#131
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Ukraine ksay
LeBron is relevant only because people compare him to MJ nuff said
2020-10-04 19:37
we knew that already
2020-10-04 20:48
Bill rusell 11 rings GOAT
2020-10-04 21:01
+1 lebron sucks
2020-10-04 21:02
Actually Jordan did shoot three pointers with at times really high percentages which led to some of his astonishing and well known 1st half personal scores. In 1990 he even participated in the All-Star 3pt shootout competition, with poor results though. Regarding the GOAT discussion, to each his/her own and, as far as I am concerned, just enjoy watching these and any other players while you can.
2020-10-05 12:23
3 point line was closer back in the days
2020-10-05 12:41
One still had to score them, correct?
2020-10-05 12:44
not sure i would say mj is a better finisher he is a all time great but so is bron. Defense is also tricky lebron was robbed of having an mvp and dpoy in 2012 or 2013 can't remember and he is a pretty fucking good defender an alltime great but so is mj and i'm not sure who is better. mj is a better shooter but i would say lebron is better when it comes to finishing at the rim . Mj has won 5 mvp's yes but in a less efficient time, the spacing was worse and the average player just wasn't as good as they are now. That is not to say that MJ didn't have any compatition. He probably played in the era with the most H.O.F players as that is the period with the most top 10 players. But overall i agree MJ is the goat, for now.
2020-10-05 12:33
Im a lebron fan and no he is not the GOAT ! Also people should just stop comparing players Just enjoy the players you like and thats it.
2020-10-05 12:34
what the only time i watch that shit show sport is allstars the only time its fun
2020-10-05 12:47
lebron 4x normal season mvp stupid dog and 4/10 4fmvp coming soon
2020-10-05 19:47
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