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CEO from Astralis calls out Heroic:
Portugal LADY_NINI 
Michal Slowinski has been uploading his YouTube channel with examples of the coaching bug exploit. Nikolaj Nyholm, Astralis’s Founder and CEO, just called out Heroic publicly on Twitter, sharing Michal’s video evidence. He doesn’t seem to believe that Hunden, Erik Askered ( CEO from Heroic ), and niko are innocent at all. Based on what you can see in the video, do you agree with Nikolaj Nyholm? Michal Slowinski’s video: Nikolaj Nyholm’s Tweet:
2020-10-01 19:25
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sus as heck
2020-10-01 19:25
Algeria Maxmeister
Green sus
2020-10-01 22:20
next try?
2020-10-01 19:26
round 7 is so obvious... More than 1 minute on the clock, and a full on rotate from Heroic to the B site, makes no sense at all!
2020-10-01 21:49
Bruddah, one of the CTs looked down mid and saw that it was clear, that's why they rotated.
2020-10-01 22:04
please come to the office and tell me to my face that players were not aware of the nvidia smoke bug exploit 🤢🤢 ^ hunden should reply with this
2020-10-01 21:43
2020-10-01 21:44
+1 lol
2020-10-01 21:45
flag checks out.
2020-10-01 21:51
Brazil ZerongBr
he isnt wrong though
2020-10-01 21:55
ohh the good old nvidia smoke bug myth... why does everybody believe astralis used nvidia freestyle? they denied even knowing about it and theres 0 proof of them using it. they used the radar/smoke "bug".. (its not even a bug, its just bad game design) before they patched it, you could see the red dot of the enemy on the radar shortly before the smoke faded. everyone knew about it and used it, it was not forbidden, nor was it truely a bug. who even came up with that nvidia bs? but yeah expected of hltv to compare using a legit game mechanic to intentionally abusing a forbidden bug
2020-10-01 21:56
chill it's a meme
2020-10-01 22:05
oh ok, didnt know that.
2020-10-01 22:06
If the smoke bug wasnt cheating or forbidden, was just a "bad game design", how does that differs from the coach bug? Wich is also a "bad game design". As well as the smoke bug all players and coaches were aware of it.
2020-10-01 22:08
do i really have to explain this to you? i mean the difference is rather obvious first of all: radar bug is legal, the other one isnt. second: abusing the coach bug happens intentionally (eventhough they knew it was illegal) .. it gives a huge advantage to one team (considering the other coach isnt using it aswell) the radar bug doesnt give any advantage to anyone, everyone is free to use it. how do u want to prevent anyone from glancing at your radar once the smoke fades? once u know it, it happens automatically.
2020-10-01 22:15
why the radar bug is legal while the coach bug is illegal when both come directly from the bad game design? Where you draw the line of what is right and what is wrong? Both bugs give advantage to the team, even though the coach bug causes more damage. Same discussion goes to the jump bug back in the day. That was also a cheating system, but no one were punished. Idk why this coach bug discussion is so dramatized by everyone, its a fault in the game, as well as the other bugs that happend in the game. The coaches actually expoiting it shouldnt be punished, they were merely using every advantage they have, that how things work. Who should be punished is the developer, not its users who are merely using what is given to them.
2020-10-01 22:23
youre missing the main point: radar bug was never illegal, jump bug was never illegal.. coach bug is illegal. and they still used it, eventhough they knew it was illegal... thats called cheating. Astralis didnt cheat, BIG didnt cheat but HUNDEN cheated. also a camera angle that gives u a 360 degree angle somewehere on the map is just not comparable to a red dot on the radar, that EVERYONE used.
2020-10-01 22:30
I completely agree with you about the serious damage the coach bug caused. But in the other hand, imo, just like the coach bug being illegal, every form of bug should also be illegal
2020-10-01 22:31
i agree... i never liked that BIG used the jump bug.. i thought that its unfair and should have been forbidden mid tournament, once it came out. but the thing with the radar bug is impossible to ban..i mean how can u even check if somebody uses it?..all u have to do is to look at your radar. once i found out about it, even I started to look at the radar when the smoke faded. but im glad they fixed not a fan of these things either.
2020-10-01 22:38
+1 haha
2020-10-01 22:07
Lol of course players KNEW about the bug xD. There is just no way to prove that cuz coaches wont rat their teams out
2020-10-01 21:46
Yikes - gotta say I think some of these coaching bans are too lenient.. wonder if valve will get involved. I think there are at least 7-8 coaches that should be perma-banned.
2020-10-01 21:48
Players too
2020-10-01 22:05
Turkey erturkgg
+1 for old rfrsh ceo
2020-10-01 21:50
Salty Danish nerds!! Bow down before DOG Hunden, you fucking losers!!
2020-10-01 21:51
That guy is a well known clown in the scene
2020-10-01 21:51
that vid is really suspicious though.
2020-10-01 21:52
Pimp explained on twitter iirc, check it out Astralis CEO is just scared of Heroic and wants them gone, pussy mentality
2020-10-01 21:54
what did he explain?
2020-10-01 21:55
explained what happens in the vid, he said it is suspicious, but u cant prove anything, thats his words
2020-10-01 21:58
yes, but how is saying something about the team using the info a pussy mentality?
2020-10-01 21:59
u cant prove that, its just opinion, and yea, I dont care what this clown CEO says, he is actually just scared, he didnt say anything when Astralis were using radar bug
2020-10-01 22:01
2020-10-01 22:04
Of course they knew, every single one of them knew about bug. I said it first day when HUNDED got banned. It's just impossible to prove and they would never admit it, fckin cowards and cheaters I lost all my respect to HEROIC that day. Astralis true top 1 Danish team
2020-10-01 21:59
I'm pretty sure many teams did the same, not only Heroic.
2020-10-01 22:04
Obviously. But heroic did it vs Astralis
2020-10-01 22:06
Doesn't matter whether it was Asstralis or any other team. Either punish all teams who used the bug or don't cry and move on.
2020-10-01 22:19
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Canada Minami
Well at 17:20, it's a hell of a timing, as Teses stops waiting for the lurker as footsteps can be heard by the coach.
2020-10-01 22:12
funny timing, he's mad heroic stomped them
2020-10-01 22:13
fnx | 
Vietnam chad47
lmao yeah losing without bug to heroic 2-O goes back to find something to satisfy his little ego what a nerd and loser in life bet he dosent makes 32K a month
2020-10-01 22:19
sdy | 
Sweden god_sdy
Doesn't take a genius to understand that of course the players knew and were in on it. What use does the bug hold otherwise? Why would a coach sit through an entire game just holding an angle and checking if players are in that area unless hes communicating that info to the players. Problem for ESIC has been to find clear evidence that the players were in on it which is hard since comms weren't always recorded. But this doesn't just involve Heroic, but all of the coaches that so far got caught with a few exceptions. Don't really understand why hes now calling them out when the bug has been patched and Heroic are still looking good. Just bad manners.
2020-10-01 22:21
2020-10-01 22:24
Astralis is probably just mad because they lost 2-0 against Heroic now. But yeah this is fucked Up but I think that other orgs are also involved. Also imo Heroic and Astralis are both shady orgs
2020-10-01 22:31
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