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C9 5th player
dumau | 
Brazil Laynsier 
who will it be?
2020-10-08 10:34
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Flamez or mayb fer or fallen
2020-10-08 10:36
18 replies
no, no and no
2020-10-08 10:39
Flamez who???
2020-10-09 16:31
4 replies
#185
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North America ^name^
flamez good player
2020-10-09 19:09
3 replies
didn't show up in tier 1-2 (tier 1 mostly) + no lan so i don't think they will get him. I am not saying he is bad but just inexperienced and he has bright future i guess
2020-10-09 19:17
2 replies
#190
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North America ^name^
ok men
2020-10-09 19:19
1 reply
?? that how u answer wow what an educated guy GL in ur life man <3
2020-10-09 19:21
#144
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Ukraine YUR4S
Fallen who?
2020-10-09 16:31
8 replies
lmao you've got to be joking
2020-10-09 16:40
7 replies
he is
2020-10-09 16:42
yeah obviously joking, we all know fallen. We all know him as a washed up burned out old tier3 pro who is no longer relevant or a good igl.
2020-10-09 16:50
5 replies
#171
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Sweden RaaCCooN
tro
2020-10-09 17:01
Lmao, say the shit you want you cant delete the past , but i agree with you, fallen its not what it were
2020-10-09 17:10
3 replies
was*
2020-10-09 17:12
not trying to delete the past. Fallen was a top igl and player years ago, but he is far from that lvl, havnt been there for years and with 99% chance will never return to that lvl.
2020-10-09 17:12
1 reply
He is pretty good actually, but i think that the team just doesnt let him evolve much
2020-10-09 17:33
#194
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United Kingdom _eilrahC
flameZ? LMAO are you dumb?
2020-10-09 19:59
2 replies
flamez is not possible but he is smart entry
2020-10-10 09:13
1 reply
#202
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United Kingdom _eilrahC
Yeh +1
2020-10-11 15:56
haix
2020-10-08 10:35
12 replies
would be intresting
2020-10-08 10:36
i know that u are baiting but this idiot has more hours than some pros and he is so shit at the game
2020-10-08 10:39
10 replies
#45
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Europe H1P_STER
+1
2020-10-08 11:31
#68
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United Kingdom Dylan9007
+1
2020-10-08 12:38
#90
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Denmark zT_Pure
+1
2020-10-08 14:10
#95
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United States Festive_
LMAO
2020-10-08 17:56
+1
2020-10-09 16:31
haha
2020-10-09 16:31
#146
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United States Yuncus
+1
2020-10-09 16:33
+1
2020-10-09 16:41
+1
2020-10-09 16:44
+1
2020-10-10 11:35
snax
2020-10-08 10:35
7 replies
i think they want to be a decent team
2020-10-08 10:37
6 replies
like Illuminar
2020-10-08 11:04
5 replies
why u bully snax?
2020-10-08 13:46
4 replies
cuz i can
2020-10-08 13:47
3 replies
but WHY?
2020-10-08 13:47
2 replies
because why not
2020-10-08 13:47
1 reply
BECAUSE HE IS CUTE
2020-10-08 14:03
snax
2020-10-08 10:40
2 replies
snax cs god
2020-10-08 13:46
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2020-10-08 13:47
#13
Zeus | 
Russia SkromS
EspiranTo
2020-10-08 10:40
1 reply
#96
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United States Festive_
would've worked 2 years ago but now it's too much of a gamble especially with mezii and floppy
2020-10-08 17:57
jks im praying
2020-10-08 10:41
17 replies
#15
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Turkey varyS
yess pleaseee
2020-10-08 10:42
I'd get behind that, he's been withering away for way too long in a hopeless team.
2020-10-08 10:57
would be noice
2020-10-08 11:16
On paper 100T is a better team than c9, so why should he? JKS deserves a spot in a team like Liquid or EG. Liquid should've gone for him instead of Grim
2020-10-08 11:57
11 replies
wdym on paper ? kassad > whoever is their coach alex > AZR woxic > grat floppi still haven't unlocked his potential mezi still not proven adding jks to this team would be lethal
2020-10-08 12:06
8 replies
Alex overrated woxic not even good enough for mouz mezii - just seen a couple of games, of what I've seen they could've got a player like Surreal, freddyfrog or some other OK t2-3 player, it would be the same. floppy had an OK run against t2-3 NA teams, impressed some rounds but overall I'm not impressed. I was excited when I saw ALEX, back then I thought by only useing his name they could get great players. But they end up with this lineup? I lost all hope when they signed mezii
2020-10-08 12:11
7 replies
give me a better line up with available players rn ? woxic: world class awper. alex: was doing a great job even on LDLC when they had shit players, and that team fell off right when he left, he had good performances with vitality and won many trophies with them. kassad: made 100T play insane compared to where they started floppy: good incoming talent mezi: you can't say anything about him rn until you watch him play with the team i mean they have the main pieces that make every team succeed which are a good awper, good igl and good coach
2020-10-08 12:27
4 replies
Why available players? They bought Alex didn't they? I agree with most parts of what comments, but did u see woxic last 3-4 months in mouz? I loved how he played before that, but i'm afraid that his bad form will remain. Alex haven't played for a loooong time, floppy is a talent as u said, but is he really good enough to challenge the top teams (def. not now, but how long will it take til he's there?). Mezii: I hope I'm wrong about him, but from what I've seen he's been struggling against t5 opponents, how will he cope with this pressure and against good teams? Guess we'll see.
2020-10-08 12:39
3 replies
alex benched himself so he was available kinda woxic was benched and honestly i didn't watch mouz a lot those past months but i know they were all dogshit, the reason why i believe that these players will be back at their level is kassad, the way he improved renegades was unreal
2020-10-08 12:59
2 replies
A: Still had a buy-out W: Stilld had a buy out All except floppy had a buy out, that's why I mean that they could buy any good player from a team which is in a slump or something. Fair point about kassad, hope you're right
2020-10-08 14:08
1 reply
buying out a benched player is cheaper than an active one how complicated is this mate? HenryG bought the best players that were out on the market and everyone has reasonable roles. Also, kassad an all time great coach who made RNG/100T do insane shit that they havent repeated
2020-10-09 16:55
i just read what you said about woxic and wanted to make comment: Woxic getting kicked from mouz had nothing to do with his skills and ability. Karrigan even said a few days ago that woxic is a top awper and his aim and reaction time is absolute top. It was his mentality and attitude that got him kicked, not his skills. With that being said, i think the new c9 lineup will be a massive fail. I cannot fathom how HenryG decided to build the next "colossus" with 2-3 unproven players :/
2020-10-09 16:54
if you think that surreal or freddyfrog is better than mezii than I have bad news for you
2020-10-09 17:11
ALEX > AZR in terms of IGL and Fragger W0xic > Gratisfaction 100% anyday Floppy > Jkaem Mezii and Liazz are hard to compare because one plays really well in tier 3 whereas the other one is pretty meh in tier 2 100T don't even have a coach as well and Kassad is a god tier coach imo
2020-10-09 16:36
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#180
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Peru Dropcon
jkaem is better than floppy imo, now floppy and liazz are pretty much the same so, on paper c9 is better than 100t anyday lmao.
2020-10-09 17:37
#98
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United States Festive_
i really hope so. perfect fit in terms of roles
2020-10-08 17:57
#152
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North America 007DBR9
+1
2020-10-09 16:40
koosta maybe
2020-10-08 10:47
2 replies
bcs they have 1 awper +koosta in another awper and they have entryfragger now too
2020-10-08 10:47
they don't need a downgrade rn
2020-10-08 11:15
EspiranBot
2020-10-08 10:48
4 replies
not that unlikely, c0ntact is playing their next games without him
2020-10-09 08:27
1 reply
Yea he won't join C9
2020-10-09 09:39
ropz is kid
2020-10-09 16:39
1 reply
Fan of m0NESY
2020-10-09 17:59
#24
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Turkey sonbafrali
autimatic
2020-10-08 10:54
2 replies
that would actually be pog, but he probably wants to stay in NA, no?
2020-10-08 18:20
1 reply
geng in flashpoint will go to london
2020-10-09 16:56
Jks, surreal, espiranto, fer, taco,
2020-10-08 11:05
2 replies
#46
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Japan gachinko
Taco is good choice, he already proved himself in liquid
2020-10-08 11:32
1 reply
proved himself as a decoy aye
2020-10-09 16:58
Seized
2020-10-08 11:08
4 replies
language barrier?
2020-10-08 11:11
his englando is way better than woxic
2020-10-08 11:17
1 reply
hmm might be...
2020-10-08 11:18
#99
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United States Festive_
2015 called. they want their not washed player back
2020-10-08 17:58
snax
2020-10-08 11:15
I really don't know... I expected smooya since the beginning but now there's woxic
2020-10-08 11:15
I hope jks, ropz would be sick too but it's unlikely to happen.
2020-10-08 11:17
13 replies
jks deserve better team tho!! So that would be fucking nice for him but i also hope that surreal and espiranto would get better teams
2020-10-08 11:19
12 replies
Espi has potential, but is surreal any good though? I never really recognized him as a hidden gem.
2020-10-08 11:21
11 replies
surreal ok but not star player but i think the team doesn't need too much "star players" because they already have great igl and monster awper. Also one upcoming talent and one consistant player
2020-10-08 11:23
10 replies
I agree, but perhaps there are better options for that mind of a role. I'd love to see some Godsent players being given a shot, namely Maden, zehN or STYKO.
2020-10-08 11:27
9 replies
#48
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Slovakia Daev0n
GODSENT is full of good players. But I'm hoping that these players will refuse.
2020-10-08 11:34
3 replies
Why though? I understand the idea that they should stick together, but on the other hand they'd receive a much higher salary in C9 with a greater overall chance at breaking into the tier 1 scene.
2020-10-08 13:32
2 replies
#91
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Slovakia Daev0n
They have a higher stability in GODSENT. If they won't perform in the new Cloud 9 I'm pretty sure they will get kicked or kicked. And considering their history as NoChance when they struggled to get an org for like a year, I don't think they will take that chance.
2020-10-08 14:21
1 reply
I see what you mean, but despite the pressure that will be mounted on the players I'd assume that C9 are smart enough to realize that things take their time. As long ad they can see that the players are working hard and improving their game they'll surely be understanding even if the placements are at first misaligned with the expectation. If any players don't join C9 specifically for the reasons you listed then that shows more of a lack of faith in one's own capability than anything else. Now it's completely something else if they don't believe in this project as a whole, but if the only concern is potentially being kicked for playing poorly then they might aswell quit playing professionally because that's just not a winner's mentality.
2020-10-08 21:31
yup true that. godsent players deserve better teams. refrezh could be also good player
2020-10-08 11:53
4 replies
I agree, it's kind of a shame to see refrezh wilt away when he played so well as a stand-in for C9 some time ago.
2020-10-08 13:34
3 replies
yup true that refrezh is insane and playing with tier 2 team...
2020-10-08 13:44
2 replies
#123
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Slovakia Daev0n
So was cromen in FaZe. And now he can hardly keep positive K/D.
2020-10-08 21:51
1 reply
Cromen did not put insane numbers on faze but he was missing puzzle that they needed.
2020-10-09 08:11
Jks hopefully but it's starting to look unlikely imo but anything can happen
2020-10-08 11:21
MICHU is very good option
2020-10-08 11:58
They really underpay 2 players (mezii and floppy) so I think they will pay big for the 5th player. I think jks or niko or bubzjki will be the 5th.
2020-10-08 12:03
1 reply
niko going to g2 bro
2020-10-08 22:11
Add nitr0 for fak sake....
2020-10-08 12:05
2 replies
he's a valorant pro now
2020-10-08 12:10
nitro is playing valorant for 100 thieves
2020-10-09 09:46
#61
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Indonesia lukerey
i do hope they get jks, even tho its look impossible. maybe bubzjki cause he probably stay forever on the bench. or mediocre with good potential like espiranto.
2020-10-08 12:07
Taco
2020-10-08 12:31
1 reply
#145
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Ukraine YUR4S
taco who?
2020-10-09 16:32
#66
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United Kingdom OneBinG_
I'd like oBo, JKS is a strong pickup tio, but its probably gonna be TACO. Maybe they can get oBo and TACO? They're looking at a 6 man roster after all
2020-10-08 12:34
5 replies
obo is in NA
2020-10-08 13:36
4 replies
#92
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United Kingdom OneBinG_
Are C9 not based in NA despite their EU Roster?
2020-10-08 17:54
3 replies
#103
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United States Festive_
eventually yes but not for a while and oBo wants to be in the US rn
2020-10-08 18:02
i think its already safe that C9 will go to EU for the first months
2020-10-09 09:46
1 reply
#162
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United Kingdom Jamzy
Yeah Flashpoint is eu only so obro won't want to go back to eu
2020-10-09 16:54
#72
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Netherlands Polakva
Nukkye?
2020-10-08 12:44
8 replies
He's already in valorant, haven't found team who would want him.
2020-10-08 12:47
7 replies
#104
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United States Festive_
damn that's sad. he had some potential
2020-10-08 18:03
6 replies
Not very much, he was stuck in CIS because no one wanted him in EU after the Imperial drama.
2020-10-08 19:13
5 replies
#115
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United States Festive_
I thought the Imperial drama reflected worse on espiranto rather than nukkye but i dont really know about it. care to sum it up?
2020-10-08 19:59
4 replies
Espiranto have huge back-up, potential and he's friends with krystaL from Imperial days till now, even they didn't match-up in game, and krystaL got kicked because of Espi but they still friends so it means that Espi has great personality.
2020-10-08 20:04
3 replies
#117
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United States Festive_
huh, i always thought he had a bad attitude. thanks for telling me. any idea how nukkye fit into it?
2020-10-08 20:06
2 replies
Nukkye always was spreading that Espi kicked him from Imperial, even Neil said that it was not Espiranto who kicked Nukkye and he just got mad at Espi and put negative on him everywhere.
2020-10-08 20:08
1 reply
#120
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United States Festive_
oh damn ok. i used to be a fan of espiranto until i heard he was toxic. I'm glad he isnt because i never really liked nukkye much
2020-10-08 20:09
and who is 4th?
2020-10-08 13:50
1 reply
#94
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Hungary szia
floppy
2020-10-08 17:55
#93
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Hungary szia
Deadfox
2020-10-08 17:55
#97
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Portugal KLUKSA
Lucas1
2020-10-08 17:57
#101
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Poland SebL
Lucky would be lovely.
2020-10-08 17:59
FlameZ or oBo
2020-10-08 18:02
It will be more of a supportive element. So probably more like a Taco or something of the sorts.
2020-10-08 18:03
2 replies
who says? They already got 2 support players in Mezii and ALEX. They need a star rifler now.
2020-10-09 16:37
1 reply
Thoriin said so so on the flashpoint Q&A. Said he has inside info.
2020-10-09 19:54
can someone tell me who they already have alex woxic floppy ?
2020-10-08 18:04
2 replies
Mezzi
2020-10-08 18:09
1 reply
ty
2020-10-08 18:10
#109
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Europe monerap
jks I hope
2020-10-08 18:11
jks- obo - taco I wish of ıts 6 player team floppy gono 6th guy
2020-10-08 18:17
smooya
2020-10-08 18:19
whoever it is, it's tier2 team anyways
2020-10-08 19:16
yobbo obo or whatever he is
2020-10-08 20:07
Honestly they should get in on the bidding for Niko. They can theoretically out-spend G2. And they are based out of the same city Faze management is. That'd be my target. Get him under a real IGL again and unleash him. If not JKS is an obvious answer. Tier 1 player languishing on Tier 2 team. Obo would be a good shout. Autimatic as well depending on if Gen.G is going to be staying in CS which I assume they are so who knows. Bubzki has been friends with Floppy for a long time and has shown about as much as Floppy has. Would be a decent pick up as well. They have a lot of options ranging from relatively inexpensive to super expensive. It'll be interesting regardless which way they go.
2020-10-08 20:13
5 replies
"Honestly they should get in on the bidding for Niko. They can theoretically out-spend G2. And they are based out of the same city Faze management is." No. The fact that cloud9 has a lot of money doesnt mean that "cloud9 csgo" has a lot of money. Same with faze. There is no reason to burn money from profitable bizz via crossfinancing a way more unprofitable bizz. Also, a lot of money is bound to other areas. At the moment there are players who are not worth a bid because they wont bring the money back. niko is one of them.
2020-10-09 09:58
4 replies
Honestly dude you are forgetting why C9 wants a "superteam" of sorts. They are a principal investor in flashpoint along with the Immortals group. Bringing a player like Niko into that league actually makes sense in that context. Also Cloud 9 CSGO has already shown they are willing to spend. They are the highest valued org in all of esports. They can do it if they want.
2020-10-09 16:30
3 replies
1) you dont take notice of anything I said 2) do they look like a "superteam" for you? 3) if they dont bid absurd amounts of money for a guy like niko, it probably doesnt make sense and im right. 4) whatever these values mean, and they arent because of csgo.
2020-10-09 16:39
2 replies
1. I noticed exactly what you said. You said the ROI wasn't there. I said it's not about just making a good team it's about helping to launch an ESL competitor. 2. With a Niko or JKS as their fifth they look quite good to me yes. Woxic is a great player. Floppy has shown great potential for a year now and been one of the higher rated players in North America. Alex IGL'd a team to #2 in the world. I don't really believe in the word super team but I expect them to be very competitive. 3. If they don't bid absurd amounts of money for Niko it could be for a multitude of reasons. A lot of rumors about JKS. Jack Etienne and Nadeshot are close. Nadeshot has bitched about his team on stream. They could easily be looking at someone else. 4. They are certainly partially because of CSGO. C9 had the highest mindshare in CSGO in the NA market from 2014 to 2018 without question. I imagine most of their revenue comes from League but they are an extremely popular CS brand.
2020-10-09 16:43
1 reply
reality is that these orgs all burn cash and not a single one is profitable. the revenues are low and the values are high because the franchises in lol etc. are overvalued. noone pays buyouts for players like niko, s1mple or device. csgo is even worse than the whole esport in average. tell me where all the basically "cs only" orgs are. they are gone because cs cant finance itself on the level. thats the reality, take it or not.
2020-10-09 17:03
#137
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Poland Menaheer
snax
2020-10-09 09:54
#140
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Korea Nuguri
Xyp9x or jkaem, bookmark this
2020-10-09 16:30
2 replies
I actually think the two most likely players are from 100T and Astralis just think they are Bubzki and JKS. It'll be interesting.
2020-10-09 16:45
Either Jks to C9, or Jkaem to C9 and complexity pick up jks
2020-10-09 16:56
if jks refuses, i would sign EspiranTo
2020-10-09 16:46
jks/bubzkji
2020-10-09 16:53
Jack Etienne followed Niko right after Henry and Kassad so maybe this has been in the works since Henry was hired. G2 and Cloud9 in a bidding war
2020-10-09 16:54
Keep falling into this trap it's all C9 wants this guessing and attention. But logically narrowing it down: it's someone from EU and not in a big team.
2020-10-09 16:54
#169
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Poland pimaZo
They need big name if they want to go further with this hype train. For me? XYP9X
2020-10-09 16:59
1 reply
I was thinking this too. Don't think xyp9x wants to play in a 7 man roster
2020-10-10 11:07
espiranto top-5 team(in NA MDL)
2020-10-09 17:00
Espiranto/Innocent
2020-10-09 17:04
#178
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Russia 4nby
I think fer is actually a good option for C9. He is a proven rifl player and he is not washed up
2020-10-09 17:15
1 reply
Is this Fer?
2020-10-10 11:05
#181
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Poland vSeben
innocent
2020-10-09 17:39
Twistzz maybe? Liquid selling him for a dedicated AWPer would benefit both C9 and Liquid. Liquid could buy a good AWPer like smooya, KennyS or oSee
2020-10-09 19:01
D0cC
2020-10-09 19:05
TACO
2020-10-09 19:13
#187
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Poland Aiko_
Rigon
2020-10-09 19:14
ottond
2020-10-09 19:18
Liazz
2020-10-09 19:23
We can expect a big name. Thorin said you will know him for sure. Plus, a brand new team wouldn't start out eith their best player first and then shit the bed at the last two. But i can be wrong. I heard some rumours that Mhl from X-kom AGO would join, but i hope not
2020-10-10 11:05
me
2020-10-10 11:06
will be niko trust me.
2020-10-10 11:29
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