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Liquid without Nitr0
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Japan Legoshi 
Liquid was so much better with Nitr0 at the helm igling rather then stewie2k absolutely ruined the team by taking the spot from him
2020-10-12 04:19
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grim was just overrated af, good as a baiter but bad in other roles stew also sucked the most when he was playing valorant instead of csgo, but I think he has improved recently
2020-10-12 04:22
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#15
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South Africa @FyreCS
I think Twistzz lost his mechanical skills playing Valorant. He does for some sprays now and he crouches a lot more too now versus what he used to do.
2020-10-12 06:32
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#29
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Europe Nuskel
But you don't need to crouch in valorant.
2020-10-12 09:08
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#33
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South Africa @FyreCS
he wants to control spray more I guess idk. Just haven't seen that insane tapping Twistzz in awhile now. Stewie is making this team worse and worse
2020-10-12 15:05
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#37
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Twistzz has one of the best ak sprays. apart from tapping he had the best sprays
2020-10-12 15:16
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#63
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South Africa @FyreCS
I never thought he did, I saw him as best mechanical aim/taps
2020-10-14 19:29
+1, they should have just kept the team until LANs
2020-10-12 15:10
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or just dropped stewie for grim, kicking nitr0 and getting moses for coach was easily the dumbest roster move of 2020
2020-10-13 05:42
stewie has been very dog shit for year now
2020-10-13 07:09
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dogshit before liquid always dog shit stop signing him overrated useless player
2020-10-13 07:12
+1
2020-10-14 20:11
just wait for LAN you 50 iq newfrogs. This online period literally means nothing and liquid has ALWAYS been shit online. None of these results will matter for any team oh btw nitr0 sucked ass. His calling was not impressive at all, liquid was dominant from player skill alone. Go watch their executions. It is pure blunt force.
2020-10-12 04:31
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why does online not matter?
2020-10-12 04:32
8 replies
ping advantage, coaches can talk at any time during the match, no pressure from the crowd, youtube.com/watch?v=EfuKL3mrfCk
2020-10-12 04:44
#10
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United States Bioax
they are a lan team and heavily use momentum
2020-10-12 04:47
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#11
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Sweden MANDlNGO
Ah ok so momentum is only a lan thing, i see My smart birger! (In fact ithink this is a made Up excuse to save liquids ass)
2020-10-12 06:20
4 replies
#16
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South Africa @FyreCS
I agree as well, if anything, this online era should've been the best thing for them. Grim coming off a 1.34 rating before joining while just playing online. He's gonna be nervous on LAN and all that, so I think it is bad excuse.
2020-10-12 06:33
+1
2020-10-12 22:26
#43
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Japan tatsumi
Flag checks out your scene only relevant online in 2020
2020-10-13 04:56
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#58
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Sweden MANDlNGO
Sweden hasnt been relevant since 2016 but ok Better be honest than going with bad excuses. Just say Liquid is done as a team. Finito, they suck
2020-10-13 08:22
Well I would say that a lot of teams aren't really giving much shit about online games they are playing tons of them non stop, I believe motivation degraded for a lot of players BUT liquid aren't playing anything close to good cs, so this thing doesn't apply to them
2020-10-12 06:35
they might play better lan, but NA literally died with corona so even in lan, na/sa will still do shit
2020-10-12 06:26
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NAH, NA was only EG and liquid in 2018 and 2019 with some dogshit t2 teams. Now at least chaos is doing well, they are all promising upcoming talent and we finally got rid of the shitters who were stealing spots in teams like ptr, fns, cutler, drone, etc ex- 2020 c9 isn't a good team but they're better than NA's t2 scene back then
2020-10-12 08:18
2 replies
i get you.
2020-10-13 04:51
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and I have to concede that there were some pretty damn good promising players that have now left :(
2020-10-13 04:54
+1
2020-10-12 06:35
online does matter nt
2020-10-12 22:27
2 replies
#44
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Japan tatsumi
0/8
2020-10-13 04:56
1 reply
you right its not like they are paid professionals or anything
2020-10-13 05:25
they really need a real coach or a real igl watching that inferno game was awful, their t side was just running through smokes and mollies full flashed one by one into b site, or drypeaking gratisfaction mid
2020-10-12 04:30
I’ve said this before and I said this now; there’s nothing wrong with kicking nitr0 because he had reached the point where he was dead weight. The issue is that Liquid had no proper plan on what to do after kicking him. They needed an AWPer. Who do they get? A rifler. Now Stewie is bottom fragging as an IGL with shit strats as shown in today’s match against 100T, Moses isn’t doing particularly good as coach, Grim is trying to find his place in a team that doesn’t suit him, and NAF sucks as an AWPer because that’s obviously not his intended role.
2020-10-12 04:37
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#12
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Sweden MANDlNGO
"iTs oK oNLiNe dOnT mATTeR, LiQuiD iS a MoMeNtUm tEaM"
2020-10-12 06:22
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#45
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Japan tatsumi
Online cs literally doesn’t matter but ok
2020-10-13 04:58
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#59
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Sweden MANDlNGO
"oNliNe cS LiTeRaLLy doEsN't MaTTeR BuT ok"
2020-10-13 08:24
so you says that Liquid kicks adreN who is a strategic coach cause stew will take over the role which decides what they do in match and he's not doing well at it? poor Liquid
2020-10-12 06:30
#19
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South Africa @FyreCS
I still would've kept Adren since he was good analyst. What does Moses honestly bring that Adren didn't? I agree Nitr0 sadly became dead weight, but I would've removed Stewie because he is destroyer of teams and role plays. I was hoping for Shakezullah to get a try since there's no literal NA igls and he's the next one up besides Vanity.
2020-10-12 06:36
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despite my name i honestly preferred adreN in the analyst seat than just kicking out of the gate, on LAN adreN didnt even do anything on timeouts, i've seen countless of VODs where adreN just sits and dont move a muscle when things go wrong but he's a great at being an analyst, and also due to the fact the username " move_adreN_to_analyst_instead_of_coach_of_liquid" would be too long of a name
2020-10-12 06:41
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#31
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South Africa @FyreCS
You know what, you are right. I would've kept as an analyst, and still gone for experienced coach. I really don't understand Moses move, man hasnt played since 1.6 CS.
2020-10-12 15:04
tarik igl
2020-10-12 04:40
#8
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Brazil mrkkkkos
liquid without taco>
2020-10-12 04:46
#9
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Brazil mrkkkkos
liquid without taco
2020-10-12 04:47
1 reply
Liquid won 8 events without taco and 1 with tf are you on about
2020-10-12 22:30
dude had worse stats than daps and unimpressive strategies. If they had kept him they should have just swapped adren for someone like Kassad unless moses is way better than we can see from outside the team. I still think it was a good move *but* if both stewie2k and moses actually can't lead then yeah they're fucked.
2020-10-12 06:42
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Nitro also was in the team that was the closest thing to beating God like form of astralis. Problem is the whole team and still is out of form especially from twistzz and elige, rather than trying to fight through their struggles they will kick the lowest fragger until disband. If you want to blame players blame their two star players who seem to get a free pass from judgemental fans.
2020-10-12 08:57
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Elige has basically the same stats as he did in 2019. Twistzz is slightly down statistically, NAF is slightly down. Nitr0 was sub 0.9 rating for most of 2020. If they can get some decent strats that work for them they'll be fine. If fucking FaZe can win an event with niko IGL I believe in Stewie2k IGL until I see a few LAN events of it not working out.
2020-10-12 09:13
Typical NA brain kicking the lowest rating player when times are tough even though they have top 3 firepower. NA brain doesn't like to struggle they just kick people when they do until they disband which they will.
2020-10-12 06:42
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>NA brain doesn't like to struggle they just kick people lawl so untrue
2020-10-12 08:19
#23
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North America joeS
LOL >nitro is good player >Liquid will actually go somewhere with Grim Choose one
2020-10-12 06:57
they need obo savior
2020-10-12 08:20
just no
2020-10-12 09:01
Is like cereal without milk
2020-10-12 15:05
stewie and niko are the same player join team as star take igl and kick former igl add more star players team fails because roles dont make sense stewie/niko leaves and joins new team repeat
2020-10-12 15:07
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the difference is that niko is a good player
2020-10-13 07:13
1 reply
+1
2020-10-13 07:15
I think we need to wait to get back on LAN to truly see, as of right now I'm not disappointed, but I'm also not satisfied with how we are playing. I'm not saying going back to LAN will fix everything but I believe it will show where TL are truly at as a team.
2020-10-12 15:09
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let them get used to the new line, they will get better soon, specially when lans start again, grim is just getting used to it
2020-10-13 05:41
nitro choke on big games, on the long term will be better for liquid!
2020-10-13 05:40
3 replies
liquid has won every single tournament with nitr0 tf
2020-10-13 05:52
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yeah, but if you get chances of winning and nitro choking, to how many titles they actually won over the years, nitro choking took out 240234902423 titles from them lol if they adapt without nitro they have way more potential, as they will have 5 players on pressure situations
2020-10-13 14:01
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It wasn't just nitr0 choking but think whatever you want
2020-10-14 06:30
-Stewie2k +gratisfaction
2020-10-13 05:44
Thank you Legoshi from Beastars about the question. About nitr0 liquid thing uh at this point i guess imports from EU are the only thing that is plausible. ofc not in online wait until LAN elige cannot carry any more
2020-10-13 05:57
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Beastars good show and yes elige cannot carry anymore should go to better team like G2 or Complexity EU imports are also a great idea
2020-10-13 07:02
#62
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Pakistan LoOuU2
I agree with #5 though. Kicking Nitro isn't the problem, getting neither an awper nor an IGL and another player who basically plays the same role that your star player already does, that's the problem.
2020-10-14 07:01
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