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JamYoung | 
United States xxxhoshi 
who's the GOAT and why?
2020-10-12 09:01
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mj way better
2020-10-12 09:06
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just look at the guy play
2020-10-12 09:06
facts 6-0 > 4-6
2020-10-13 06:18
12 replies
The ring argument is so dumb lmao, LBJ has plenty of time to get more than 6 now if you didn't know. Also LBJ never lost in the first round... Arguments you could use would be like the defense in the 90s, hand checking, his fucking killer mentality... nobody wanted to win like MJ did, man didn't care if it was basketball or go fish he wanted to beat your ass.
2020-10-13 17:15
10 replies
MJ was playing vs larry birds celtics in the first round lebron been playing against teams barely .500 in the first round give me a break
2020-10-13 17:12
lmao dont act like this isn't the softest era
2020-10-13 19:06
2 replies
Are you blind or just stupid lol... i'm clearly saying the defense was tougher in the 90s DURRRRRRRRRRRRR
2020-10-14 00:31
1 reply
dude can't read lmao
2020-10-14 20:17
#172
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Spain N0Love
+1 that is the dumbest argument of all you can make to defend MJ goat status
2020-10-14 18:36
Lebron is 35, a bad shooter and relies on athleticism. How do you figure he has "plenty of time"
2020-10-15 13:30
4 replies
he has a higher career avg than kevin durant at a higher fg%... bad shooter lmao, relies on athleticism LMAO... What are these ridiculous arguments people try to make He's the best passer in the league, with the highest IQ, his game has evolved way beyond relying on "athleticism"... He has Anthony FUCKING Davis on his team... and anyone who wants a ring will want to play with him... he's got time lol
2020-10-15 22:07
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LMAO!! No shit he has a higher average when he mostly lay ups and dunks, what a neophyte thing to say.. 69% free throw percentage last year.. 34% from 3... That's not impressive by any means. Stay a casual.
2020-10-16 04:15
2 replies
lbj has a higher true shooting %... can't argue that one lol stay hating
2020-10-16 20:50
1 reply
Wow, Bronsexuals really can't think logically at all. gyazo.com/9360e795c0bc28cdf991bdda892697.. Stay casual, LOL!!
2020-10-16 21:47
you are saying it like its bad to get in final?
2020-10-14 18:32
#4
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Singapore Am2de
MJ 6 championship > Lebron 4 championship
2020-10-12 09:09
14 replies
Robert Horry 7 championships > MJ 6 championships rings are irrelevant
2020-10-12 09:17
10 replies
#8
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Singapore Am2de
5 season mvp > 4 season mvp 6 finals mvp > 4 finals mvp
2020-10-12 09:19
9 replies
against plumbers and engineers imagine jordan playing against warriors , would be solid 0 rings Kareem 6 mvps > jordan 5 mvps , again irrelevant
2020-10-12 09:23
8 replies
this has been argued about so much man are you under a cave
2020-10-12 09:35
But Jordan has more when compared to Le4-6 🤷🏿‍♂️. Another L analogy. Bronsexuals literally lack basic logic and reasoning
2020-10-12 15:08
2 replies
"bronsexual" alright 14 year old get off the page
2020-10-14 18:33
1 reply
0/8
2020-10-14 20:04
lol lebum playing in softest era of all time....literal soccer players playing basketball. How mad are u that mj will forever be the goat? like literally he can never be replaced.
2020-10-13 10:52
ahahaha you idiot kiddo,do you know bad boys ? do you know 90's Lakers ? Do you know Boston? Do you know Utah ? kiddo... MJ played vs hall of famers,Lebron played worst teams in east 15 years... this is why he is 5/9
2020-10-13 11:18
i just wonder what would happend if LeBaloon would play vs Bad Boys...
2020-10-13 11:18
1 reply
he would survive? leBron one of the greatest athletes not just players you know?
2020-10-15 01:40
Bill Russell 11 > everyone. So I guess he is GOAT then?
2020-10-12 10:09
1 reply
MJ 6 > Le4-6 4 So MJ is better
2020-10-12 15:08
#55
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
if your team is more dominant its way easier to get good personal statisttics so you saying lebron better?
2020-10-12 13:13
Lebron is already the best player ever ( this is not even close ) at the end of his career he will be the greatest too ( in terms of accomplishments)
2020-10-12 09:15
18 replies
Wow, lol. Next time don't skip school. You really need that elementary school education, little kiddo.
2020-10-12 09:46
11 replies
Care to elaborate? Kid is your mom btw
2020-10-12 09:51
wow you're toxic man
2020-10-12 10:17
in elementary school you learn about Lebron and MJ?Nice
2020-10-12 11:01
8 replies
Yeah, get ur education, cause you ure a little kid that doesn't know anything. Just because you were born in 2004, doesn't mean that now everything all of a sudden is better. youtube.com/watch?v=8COaMKbNrX0&t=2s&ab_.. Some people are just freaks of nature and would thrive in any generation. Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq, MJ. And I was rooting for LBJ.
2020-10-12 12:45
7 replies
Whoah there gramps, why are you calling everyone a kiddo? Are you really that much of a boomer that everyone is a kiddo to you? 50 years old or are you just mentally challenged? Also you also didn't answer my question, how in the fuck do you learn about MJ and Lebron in elementary school? Please tell me, aren't you supposed to learn about numbers, basic maths and stuff like that in elementary school? Sorry if education in Latvia is a little bit different but I bet that in 99% of countries nobody gives a singular fuck about MJ or Lebron in elementary school.
2020-10-12 14:01
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Because the guy has no input in the debate. He is just saying that LBJ is the best ever (not even close), meaning that he is dumb. And should go back to his elementary school and not sit home writing shit he has no idea about 10 in the morning.
2020-10-12 15:04
Also, Romania. I bet that in your school the only thing they teach you is how to steal. Get it. Gypsy?
2020-10-12 15:05
4 replies
trash b8 m8 0/8 If you're talking about elementary school, you should also go too there, since you're clearly uneducated on the whole thing so let me educate you more than your education system could in your whole life. Gypsies originate from India, coming to Europe in many countries such as Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, France, UK, Germany and the list goes on and on, also they're supposed to be nomadic hence why they can be found in so many places so there's that. Also did you know that there are approximately 12.000 gypsies in Latvia? There you go, now go into your little cave and shut up for the rest of your life.
2020-10-12 16:01
3 replies
lmao. Tldr. Go cry gypsy
2020-10-13 08:03
2 replies
Damn, he rekted you lol
2020-10-14 20:19
you okay latvia?
2020-10-15 22:13
#51
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CIS ShimonSS
Lebron is playing in the softest era of basketball ever, he cannot be a goat, lol
2020-10-12 13:06
2 replies
#174
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
softest era lol , drugs are bad quit it bro, can you name atleast 3 players from jordan era without google
2020-10-14 18:37
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#178
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CIS ShimonSS
dont talk if u have nothing to say except insults
2020-10-14 18:57
#54
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
lol wtff u talking xd
2020-10-12 13:12
Get back to doing homework, kiddo. Basketball is not for you, stick to 2k and fortnite
2020-10-12 15:09
#232
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Portugal absolut19
he isn't ever the best basketballer of all time
2020-10-15 13:36
lebron
2020-10-12 09:17
1 reply
< MJ ? Yeah I agree
2020-10-12 15:09
#9
Bymas | 
Lithuania a2kas
why they are not going to play 1vs1 ?
2020-10-12 09:22
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#29
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Romania marmottfu
1v1 d2 long Lbj vs Mj
2020-10-12 10:22
2 replies
#46
Bymas | 
Lithuania a2kas
would be great, it would more popular than Mj serial
2020-10-12 11:47
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#105
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Romania marmottfu
agree. top rating netflix
2020-10-13 08:39
Lbj much smarter ... he knows to find the best possible help every single season .. If he were smarter , he would have chosen to join the future winning team every season ,and then he would have won 17 titles already . He must regret for not doing so since the year he joined NBA... Damn ..the only “smart azz “ in NBA
2020-10-12 09:27
Jordan easily and I'll happily argue with anybody who disagrees with me.
2020-10-12 09:29
12 replies
jordan was dominant but he wouldn't do shit in todays nba , bad 3p shooter , bad playmaker , way lower basketball iq than lebron , doesn't make teammates better he was just ahead of his time , played against weak competition , like twice less hall of famers than Lebron had to beat Kevin Durant is lowkey better player than Jordan ( better on offence better on defense better 3p shooter , both shit playmakers ) Don't get me wrong , Jordan was amazing , but he is just not that level ( of Lebron ) , either 3rd or 2nd best player ever , has a case for most accomplished , but Lebron will take that title when he finishes his career
2020-10-12 09:38
11 replies
you cannot compare them based on their skill like that. Jordan was born 20+ years before LeBron. Training methods and the way game was played, when he was younger were different.
2020-10-12 09:54
7 replies
which means lebron is better?
2020-10-12 10:07
6 replies
Which means MJ is superior
2020-10-12 15:10
5 replies
0/8
2020-10-12 15:25
4 replies
Sorry to break your bubble zoomer. Get back to doing homework and playing 2k
2020-10-12 15:50
3 replies
Kobe > MJ sorry to break your nostalgia bubble boomer /close
2020-10-12 16:05
2 replies
MJ > anyone, sorry to break your zoomer recent bias 🤷🏿‍♂️
2020-10-12 17:24
bro checks his name max 11 yo
2020-10-13 17:17
Jordan would be significantly better in todays NBA than what Lebron would be in Jordan's era. Players and teams literally head hunted Jordan to the point where they were committing what would now be considered flagrant two fouls on him countless times on a nightly basis. Let's also not forget that Jordan had to fight his way out of the eastern conference for his whole career which was really stacked in the 80s/90s whereas Lebron was playing in the Eastern Conference when it was easily the softest it'd ever been. I won't even go into the argument about defending because Lebron James is statistically a horrible defender, but it gets overlooked because he does the occasional run down block. I'm going to ignore what you said about Kevin Durant because that's just a silly statement and it discredits your whole argument
2020-10-12 10:16
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it's hard to say, but i definitely wouldn't say jordan would be SIGNIFICANTLY better today that lebron would be in the 90s. they would both be dominant in their owns ways. let's not act like lbj isn't a complete freak of nature, dude spends $1M on taking care of his body annually. and sure, lebron's eastern conference competition wasn't spectacular in the 2010s but i would argue that his finals opposition has been WAY harder than anything mj has ever faced in the finals. also what stats are you referring to when you say lbj is a horrible defender? sure in the past couple of years he's slacked on defense during the regular season but that's just to conserve energy for the playoffs (side note: this year's lakers team was statistically one of the best defensive teams in both the regular season and playoffs). you can't just ignore his 6 all-defensive team selections or how he got 2nd in dpoy voting in 2013 (arguably robbed)
2020-10-12 10:47
#233
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Portugal absolut19
+1, this is a solid argument not something a brainwashed person would say
2020-10-15 13:41
#13
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Ukraine Sla1ter
Jordan > LBJ
2020-10-12 09:34
s1mple >>>>>>>>> both
2020-10-12 09:41
Different era's different type of basketball, some rules have also been altered since due to certain players their way of playing back then. For me its Michael Jordan but that's partially bias as i grew up watching him play. Lebron has shown his skill & his qualities currently are a head of a lot of other people of his generation he will certainly be remembered in a few years by those who saw him play when they grew up.
2020-10-12 09:48
I think until LBJ retires and we can retrospectively see everything he did, he can't be called GOAT over Jordan
2020-10-12 10:18
i love them both dont fight for this guys
2020-10-12 10:29
#31
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Romania Iosif
Well, Lebron is hella good, but also MJ was singing pretty nice.
2020-10-12 10:30
#33
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Greece her-1g
well you cant compare messi to pele. Pele is considered top1 but messi is like 50 times better. Now if pele was born in 1990 and trained at la masia then he could potentially be better if we take into consideration the raw talent. Its the same as the MJ vs Lebron argument, Players are 10x more athletic now, they all train much harder, even their shoes are million times better and MJ paved the way for that. Now if MJ was born in 85 lets say and trained with these new techniques would he be better? Noone knows. Best thing to say Lebron is the best player in his generation, like jordan in the 90s and Kobe in the 00s.
2020-10-12 10:39
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i totally agree. i say the same thing whenever someone tries to compare them as players, but that's not what i'm doing. i'm comparing their greatness
2020-10-12 10:50
I can see where you coming from but MJ is still the GOAT. Winning 6 out of 6 finals, being the best player on the court every single time, scoring when needed, not choking like LeBron, he took his shots like a man and dominated the game. People underestimate MJ's physicality like he was some unathletic bum, but in reality he was one of the most athletic players to ever live. The most athletic player ever being Wilt Chamberlain. By the way, arguably the best player of the 00s was Tim Duncan but San Antonio Spurs were and still are a small market team so he never got the attention Kobe had. In my personal opinion it's still MJ>LeBron by a mile, but LeBron can still prove me wrong by winning more rings and showing up when needed.
2020-10-12 10:55
2 replies
everyone knows MJ was hella athletic
2020-10-15 13:34
1 reply
yeah, everyone who knows basketball but I've seen people unironically saying MJ wouldn't survive against Giannis and KD to back up their LeBron>MJ take
2020-10-15 14:40
Michael jackson didnt even play
2020-10-12 10:45
#37
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Thailand hahahoha
mj's shots and playstyle is more aesthetically pleasing
2020-10-12 10:53
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#61
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Australia sini_
Yes this! That is why his highlights are so pleasing to watch.
2020-10-12 14:42
Michael Jordan. No hate for LeBron but he wouldn't survive against Bad Boys Pistons' defence.
2020-10-12 10:53
11 replies
You mean the guy who's pretty much never been injured, one of the most athletic and strongest players of all time? I think he'd be alright
2020-10-12 11:02
10 replies
1- He was injured, you forgot the last season quickly. 2- Basketball today is a softball for an exception for only a few teams. LeBron just rushes in without a real contest, Laimbeer and Rodman would ground him and LeBron would not be a bitch against referees.
2020-10-12 11:35
9 replies
"pretty much" He was injured briefly last season, and then sat out the rest when Lakers had spoiled his playoff chances. What is they said last night, 250 playoff games and not a single one missed? That's so ridiculously mindblowing, especially considering his longevity, role and minutes. Again, he's one of the strongest and most athletic players of all time. He would have a harder time finishing at the rim but don't act like Laimbeer is some otherworldly matchup for him in terms of physicality. If Jordan could, Lebron could as well.
2020-10-12 11:52
6 replies
Briefly ? You missed the last season, he literally load managed 60% of the season, returned when they could have still made the playoffs and choked against tanking teams like Grizzlies and Knicks. It wasn’t Lakers who “spoiled his playoff chances” but himself. No Le4-6 wouldn’t bc he cries every time. He plays in the softest era and still finds a way to complain.
2020-10-12 15:13
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youtube.com/watch?v=rIQaMbmPpyw&t=64s youtu.be/hi_2lEw5CHI high schoolers today are more athletic than some players were in the 80s and 90s. people who say that lebron, a 6'8 250 lb monster freight train, wouldn't be able to be dominant in the 90s are actually fucking brain dead and i love how you conveniently leave out that before injuries, that lakers squad was 4th in the west and was shitting on the likes of gsw.
2020-10-13 06:14
4 replies
youtu.be/Wwpu7ib67hk youtu.be/LpUGYNHtsfA Who cars about high schoolers if they can’t get in the NBA ? Look at #1 OA Zion, a fatty breaking down after playing more than 5 minutes and 2 back to backs lmao. Oh I forgot 50 yo bench player Jason Terry is an absolute monster and 5ft skinny white guy named JJ Barea are absolute physical specimens that didn’t exist in NBA before Le4-6 joined it. And people who believe his constant whining and complaining would get him the same amount of fouls in tougher NBA is actually mentally challenged bronsexual living in denial. And I love how you conveniently skipped the fact that it was just one game. You are too fucking in denial since you believe shitty Fakers would remain 4th. They are good on 10 games, on full season ? Fucking no chance. And I love how you forgot the fact Le4-6 load managed for the 65% of the season, basically quitted on his team bc he knew 2018 Cavs had more chance to make playoffs playing in the West than Lakers, got Magic out of the office, returned back with more than 10 games to play and still failed so fucking miserably and missed playoffs 😂😂. Funny how you imply MJ played with inferior competition but once Le4-6 entered the league, “janitors and G Leaguers” turned into Hall of Fame players, Gods and literally players who couldn’t be defeated. Delusional bronsexuals, keep playing 2k :)
2020-10-13 08:59
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the point i was trying to make is that this era is far from the softest in nba history. you want soft? go back to the 70s. last years lakers team was ruined by injuries. it wasn't just lebron. the lakers 4 best players were out with injuries for extended periods of time. and stop putting words of lebron's retarded fanbase into my mouth. i've never said the 90s were filled with plumbers and librarians. all i said was that if you think a freak of nature like lebron wouldn't be able to "handle" playing in the 80s and 90s then you're as delusional as the bronsexuals who plague twitter
2020-10-13 10:36
lmao name checks out 11 yo curry fan
2020-10-13 17:15
1 reply
Lmao flair checks out. 10 yo Le4-6 stat-padder fan
2020-10-13 19:56
he has been injured once. MJ was injured even worse what do you mean
2020-10-14 18:34
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I'm talking about "LeBron not being invincible" not "Jordan being stronger than LeBron", don't change the topic.
2020-10-14 18:46
Kobe better than both
2020-10-12 10:58
2 replies
#223
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Finland Teukkasd
+1
2020-10-15 06:19
#295
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Lithuania Edze
In most missed shots yeah
2020-10-17 09:47
It's MJ for now. If Lebron wins another chip I think it's safe to say they're equal tho, and if he gets to 6 then Lebron frankly has the better and greater career.
2020-10-12 11:03
Reasons why MJ>LeBron: Better scorer (and by a pretty big margin) Better shooter (when not including 3s bcuz they weren't thing back than) Better finisher (League was much more tough and fouls weren't called that much) Better free throw shooter Better defense All that while being shorter and much lighter, only categories where Bron is better are: Assists (by a big margin) 3pt (MJ didnt even shot 3 ball but Bron is better) Rebounds (taller, bigger, forward) Also MJ 5 MVPs, Bron 3 MVPs MJ 6/6 finals, Bron 4/6 MJ 6 Finals MVPs, Bron 4 FMVPs MJ 1X DPOY, 9X All-Deffense, Bron 1X All-Deffense MJ 8 Scoring Titles, Bron 1 MJ 13 seasons, Bron 17 seasons (correct me if I'm wrong)
2020-10-12 11:42
4 replies
bron and mj are on the same level when it comes to finishing. players today literally hug and whack lbj when he drives to the rim and he's still able to finish. and i'd argue bron is the better defender when it matters. sure he slacks off in the regular season but come playoff time he's easily one of the most elite defenders in the league. he has the speed and length to be a great perimeter defender and the athleticism and size to be an above average rim protector. also bron is 6x all defense, not 1x i tend not to take achievements like mvp, all nba teams, all defensive teams, etc. into account because more often than not those awards are narrative driven. if mvp was given to the actual best player in the league every year lebron would easily have 10+ lol.
2020-10-13 06:06
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Sry for mistakes, I just feel like MJ wad better defender cuz of "roughness" of the league back than, I didnt watch obv, but watched his highlights, he was just insane from my POV, his layups seemed to be unguardable (double clutching, spining, switching hands in the air), he also had 48 inch vertical and was able to dunk the basketball taking of the free throw line. Idk for the defense tho, didn't watch playoffs and MJ playing "clutch" defensively xD so I can't tell, LeBron is built to be better defender and for sure is better at both deffending at the perimeter and in the paint, but I feel like MJ was more efficient defender overalll. For MVP argument, you're wrong mate, maybe LeBron is more skilled than some MVPs (Giannis, Westbrook etc.) but I'm pretty sure form matters the most, I also thought that LeBron was robbed of MVP this season, but I saw this video youtu.be/Ywuaw2gT-wY
2020-10-13 10:03
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the issue with the mvp is that when the voters vote for the mvp, it's not about stats or who was actually the most valuable to their team. they have narratives and storylines in mind. the nba is trying to push giannis to be the face of the league and the best player in the world even when he's far from it. that's why i don't think when comparing two individuals based on their basketball skills, that # of mvps should be part of the conversation.
2020-10-13 10:49
all of these are false
2020-10-14 18:35
lebron
2020-10-12 11:55
Jordan by far Every team builds a super team now. Jordan was the super team.
2020-10-12 12:51
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#53
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
by far lol, doubt
2020-10-12 13:11
11 replies
Jordan won with who?? Scottie was the only other superstar and he was a super star because of defense. Look at everyone lebron had around him. Lebron early days with Cleveland was all 100% him he had nothing. But with Miami Cleveland and LA he had stacked teams.
2020-10-12 13:32
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#60
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
well means opponents were not strong in jordan times if one player made a difference. To be honest i dont remember anyone good from jordan era, and lebron, bryant had countless endless of opponents who i knew , evenwhile not caring much about basketball,>>>> just impossible for one player to make such different to score even a single win against strong nba team, im not even talking win championchips. if jordan had bad team his opponents were bad too
2020-10-12 14:37
9 replies
fug
2020-10-12 15:08
Jordans era had way better players bleacherreport.com/articles/1750914-comp.. anymore in the NBA u got 6 good teams and the rest are trash because all the good players team up now celtics/heat/cavs/GS/LA/LA/spurs...back in the day star players played on subpar teams while making them good...today's superstars will only play on teams that have other superstars on them
2020-10-12 19:41
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#83
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
lol are you trying to troll, had way better players, on some statistics there is even 0.2 difference wow thats way better. And another thing maybe lets say top leaders are similiar, i once again think todays worst players might be just better than old days subs. And for example lebron leads against mj in all time points scored.... how is that way better.
2020-10-12 20:22
your logic is so flawed i don't even know where to begin. why should star players not put themselves in better positions to win? why should they stay on teams with incompetent management? and why are you ignoring the fact that super teams existed in the 80s and 90s too?
2020-10-13 05:59
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I’m not saying anything bad about super teams forming. Jordan didn’t need a super team. Lebron did. Jordan’s bulls had some of the greatest season ever for a team. Jordan never lost a championship. He did all this while being the only great player on the team.
2020-10-13 09:40
4 replies
>jordan didn't need a super team >72-10 bulls aren't a super team k
2020-10-13 10:44
3 replies
He made it a super team single handedly. His 2nd best player was a defensive player. His 3rd best player could only rebound Look at lebrons teammates he had with all his teams except his first years with Cleveland. Had great seasons had great playoff games but never won a championship. Look at GS and the run they had. 3 superstar scorers.
2020-10-13 12:40
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imagine calling scottie pippen just a "defensive player". goes to show how much you know about basketball. mj's team literally went 55-27 and had a deep playoff run without him but with him they're not a super team? you make absolutely no sense
2020-10-13 13:11
1 reply
+1 scottie was 3rd in mvp voting when that ballhog retired
2020-10-13 17:14
such a shit argument. the bulls were a 55 win team the year jordan retired for the first time. every team lebron has been on fell apart after he left.
2020-10-13 05:52
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Because lebron jumps ship. Jordan stayed on his team and made the team better by playing better andplaying harder not by Joining a new Team. 6 rings 1 team all 6 times Jordan was the star player. Lebron not even the best player on LA LA wouldn’t win shit without AD.
2020-10-13 09:46
4 replies
it's almost like MJ was drafted into a 10x better situation than lebron. the bulls surrounded MJ with hall of fame talent. lebron was drafted into a small market city, the best players the cavs front office were able to put around him were mo williams, anderson varejao, and zydrunas ilgauskas. lebron is a once in a life time talent, he knows that. why should he let his legacy be defined by the cavaliers who had 7 whole years to put a decent team around him and couldn't.
2020-10-13 10:43
2 replies
Why are u acting like I’m saying lebron is trash????????????????????????????????????? Never ever once did I say anything bad about him. He’s the 2nd best player ever in the NBA.
2020-10-13 12:43
1 reply
you're criticizing lebron for "jumping ship", all i did was counter that argument lmao
2020-10-13 13:07
jordan didnt win anyshit without scottie either
2020-10-13 17:13
#52
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
why people say team achievements of those players not personal, i think that team achieved more takes away credit from jordan, if your team extremely dominant means easier for you to get personal statistics better
2020-10-12 13:10
Kids today can't appreciate greatness and always has to compare legends. They're two completely different players who played in two completely different eras of basketball. Stop comparing and respect both of their accomplishments. Both are GOATED.
2020-10-12 13:18
3 replies
boated glated what it mean
2020-10-12 15:07
are you stupid? it's only natural to compare the 2 greatest players in nba history lmao, why wouldn't you? you can appreciate both their greatness and still compare them.
2020-10-13 05:49
1 reply
suck me dry buddy Or maybe you're busy sucking on some other nuts judging by your other comments
2020-10-13 08:30
who cares spaghetti sport
2020-10-12 15:05
michael jackson
2020-10-12 15:07
Kyle lowry is the goat dont @ me
2020-10-12 15:51
Eras seem pretty much similar in terms of competitiveness imo but that's subjective. MJ is a better defender and LeBron a better passer. MJ's got the average records while LeBron's got the total records. LeBron's the only player so far to be finals MVP with 3 different teams while MJ is the only player in the modern era to lead a team to 2 threepeats. This being said, MJ's got 11 MVP (5 RS, 6 finals), LeBron 8 (4 RS, 4 finals). At that level, that difference between the two is A LOT so for now, MJ is still the GOAT.
2020-10-12 16:14
9 replies
personally i don't think mvp's are indicative of who's actually the best player in the league in that specific season. if it was then lebron would have 10+ mvps and iguodala wouldn't have a finals mvp.
2020-10-13 05:48
8 replies
I mean what should they give MVP based on? That is really just subjective and Lebron doesn't deserve 10 MVPs hahah he probably shouldn't even have 4. "iguodala wouldn't have a finals mvp." Are you dumb? You can say all this dumb shit as a fanboy but in reality whether you want to talk statistics, achievements, influence on basketball in general or any other metric you can think of Jordan is levels above anything Lebron will ever do.
2020-10-13 06:20
5 replies
lebron has been the best player in the league for 10+ years, therefore if the mvp was actually given to the "most valuable player" in the league in that given year, lebron would easily have 10+. that would be boring and would hurt ratings though so instead, the mvp is chosen with narratives and storylines in mind. iguodala doesn't deserve his finals mvp, don't be a dumbass lmao. jordan is not "levels above anything lebron will ever do". if that was true then the comparison wouldn't even be made by the media. you saying that kinda gives it up that you're a jordan fanboy yourself
2020-10-13 07:51
3 replies
I'm not a Jordan fanboy actually my favourite player of all time is Jamal Crawford but that doesn't mean anything. Lebron won in years where players were statistically better than him and their team had a better record so what's the argument there? If he deserves more then why has he won when he didn't deserve it? How many scoring titles he has? How many 1st team NBA defense selections he has? What exactly made him MVP of those seasons please do tell me because they don't judge on dick riding like you do. If you think you need to be a Jordan fanboy to see he's clearly better statistically, he's clearly has better achievements, he was clearly better on both sides of the court, he dominated in an era where the East was actually stronger than the west, he is the most influential player to ever live in any sport, he's the most recognizable athlete of all time, he's the reason Nike is a multi billion corporation... I can go on but what's the point? Lebron played longer I already touched on that on per game average he isn't even in the same fucking discussion, imagine shooting 19% career average in clutch situations and people calling you the goat and wondering why you choked so many NBA finals. Jordan is the GOAT no one will ever match him. Remember that famous moment with J.R. Smith and them going into overtime because of him and ending up losing that game and series? Statistically speaking if he did dish the ball off to Lebron he would of missed that shot 4 out of 5 times and they would still go into overtime and lose.
2020-10-13 23:28
2 replies
"Lebron won in years where players were statistically better than him and their team had a better record so" basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_201.. best record basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_201.. best record basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_200.. best record basketball-reference.com/players/j/james.. basketball-reference.com/players/j/jorda.. lebron shot better from field better from 3(jordan shot %40 percent from 3 when line was shortened) lebron averages more rebounds more assists both have same per also lebron shot %56 from field %40 from 3 in his most efficent year lebron had %65 true shooting in his best year jordan had only %61 lebron was better scorer than jordan he didnt ball hogged he was more a point guard btw dont start with mid range shit mid range is 2 points so as layup
2020-10-15 14:49
share me ur "%19 in clutch stat" u cant bcuz it doesnt exist also u calling lebron would miss that shot 4 out 5 times meanwhile he hit 2 game winner in same playoffs lmfao Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%) Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%) LeBron James: 12/23 (52%) the last 10 seconds stats where is "%19 in clutch"?
2020-10-15 14:52
he probably shouldn't even have 4. 0/8
2020-10-13 17:12
I agree with you on most of that. But anyway, MJ and LeBron both have been the best players during their era, so it's a tie there. I find MVP titles meaningful because they combine both individual and team superiority over the other teams. Being the best player is not enough, you have to win to be the greatest. + Iguodala's MVP was just pure bs. I would have understood if no other Warriors stood out but Curry's finals were definitely worthy of a finals MVP.
2020-10-13 16:45
1 reply
Iggy was the best defender in that finals, Curry just shoots open 3s dont compare them.
2020-10-13 22:42
Steph Curry
2020-10-12 17:27
i think lebron mens, michael jackson make very nice music but is pedo i think
2020-10-12 20:27
2 replies
michael jackson 100% pedo
2020-10-13 05:45
no he wasn't m8, proven innocent by the FBI, these guys today just want money, they are right now in a trial, but they are losing everything.
2020-10-16 21:02
#85
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Turkey DodoMan47
MJ bestest.
2020-10-12 20:35
micheal jackson of course
2020-10-12 21:06
i mean mj can dance and sing better #kingofpop jk
2020-10-13 06:01
I mean the only thing Lebron has on Jordan is legacy because he played longer and more seasons.... Jordan has him beaten on literally everything else achievements, championships, to this day the highest average points per game in playoffs, the highest average points per game in the finals, NBA finals MVP every time he was the championship.... The EAST was GODLY in Jordan's era, the East was GARBAGE in Lebron's, weak teams in the playoffs and still his #s are way worse in the playoffs. Jordan in clutch situations career overall shot 50% or higher in the playoffs, Lebron in clutch situations career overall is 19%, Jordan dominated and his efficiency rating is just as high in clutch situations as regular whereas Lebron in clutch situations or big games is below average actually. When you compare Jordan with any other SG who ever played, he is ranked #1 in every important stat you can grade a basketball player on, Lebron similarly ranked with other SF is top 10 in everything but 1st in nothing but assists because he's played a long time. You can't compare someone who's just a great to someone who is literally and statistically the greatest player to ever touch a basketball, even when he was on the wizards and old late 39s, 40s his #s fell but his efficiency rating stayed the same (highest of all time) oh and I forgot to mention Jordan was also one of the best defenders of all time, Lebron isn't. Lebron isn't even one of the best defensive players in his position or this era. The only weakness Jordan ever had is he wasn't a good 3pt shooter, 33% career average.... Back then teams averaged 4-6 3pt shot attempts per game, the 3pt wasn't a huge part of the game... Jordan average 2 attempts a game, Lebron averages more than double that and I don't have to bring up 3pt attempts in this era of NBA teams literally chuck the ball all game because the perimeter defense doesn't exist anymore in the NBA. So Jordans weakness isn't even a weakness and Lebron 33% 3pt as well so he can't shoot and he shoots more and obviously Lebrons mid game isn't even in the same tier as Jordans, his post game, post fades, his mid range was the best of all time, Lebron isn't even top 10 as a shooter. This is the last thing I wanted to mention is that when Lebron is within 3 feet of the basket he scores 70% of his career points, almost like a big man, relying on dunks and put backs. Lebron isn't even in the same category as Jordan.
2020-10-13 06:04
12 replies
east was godly in jordan's era lmfao reggie miller was godly lmfaooooooooooooo 8th seed made finals when mj retired they didnt won a chip until 2004 when also he first retired hakeem won 4-1 1994 new york and swept orlando next year what a godly conference
2020-10-13 17:11
11 replies
Fanboyism as usual keep lying and making shit up Lebron isn't even on the same fucking hemisphere and Jordan. The funny part is nothing Lebron could ever do will make him better than Jordan statistically so why even compare them? Jordan is miles ahead of him it isn't close at all. Stupid discussion of fanboy shit cause you like Lebron that much.
2020-10-13 22:33
9 replies
ok aka "im 11 yo just actin like im old so i dickride mj" guy lebron never lost in first round mj destroyed in first round until scottie arrived youtube.com/watch?v=sx4z_pCA_6k this game every>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mj aka overrated ball hog
2020-10-14 13:17
2 replies
Idiotic comparison as Jordan was not in his prime at that moment so literally none cares. I literally don't care about anything you say you brain dead fanboy mongoloid compare them on anything achievements, stats, stats in the playoffs, analytics, influence on culture and the game of basketball itself and Jordan is head and shoulders above Lebron's entire existence. Now post some "proof" you know like stats and shit or stfu braindead idiot.
2020-10-15 05:53
1 reply
jordan was in his prime lmao he averaged 37 points and swept in first round
2020-10-15 13:03
LeBron James now has 5 playoff buzzer beaters. Jordan & Kobe have 5 combined. howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Michael-Jord.. field goal % says everything Jordan 5-11 45.5% 3 buzzer beater LeBron 7-15 46.7% 5 buzzer beater
2020-10-14 13:29
4 replies
Yeah it says everything when you cherry pick and ignore context doesn't it really brain washed blind idiot, check the actual stats and his 19% fg pct under clutch situations and Jordan has the highest of all time above 50% in the playoffs please stop this retarded argument it's embarrassing,.
2020-10-15 05:56
3 replies
what %19 lmao i.ytimg.com/vi/NtKS8YR5ioo/maxresdefault.. he hit another one after that pic
2020-10-15 13:01
2 replies
Are you actually that fucking dumb lmao omg, do you know what a clutch situation is? You literally have to limit the stat for him to have a good pct, you're pathetic and stupid. When you're actually older then 12 and not a fanboy anymore you will be able to judge players properly instead of lying bullshit like you're doing now. Imagine thinking that clutch situations only include game winning buzzer beaters or go ahead baskets in the final 5seconds in 4th or OT, delusional kid. Tell Lebron to go dunk the ball some more 70% of his career points are within 3 feet of the basket, he sucks at free throws, he's a garbage shooter, he's a garbage defender foh. The GOAT has no weakness, Lebron's games has tons.
2020-10-15 13:41
1 reply
"garbage defender" "garbage shooter shots better from 3 than mj shot better from field better than mj finished 2nd in dpoy voting u are 11 yo lebron hater you are not posting any stats just shitting about lebron without any proof
2020-10-15 14:30
heat and cavs also played against shit teams in the east then got rekt in finals houston-gsw was more competitive than cavs-gsw
2020-10-14 19:00
#94
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Ireland Sodaking
MJ easily played in a tougher era against tougher opponents and went 6-0 in the NBA Championship game always found a way to win when it mattered most 2x 3Peats Owned the 90s just remember he played against the likes of Shaq, Kobe, Charles Barkley , Larry Bird , Magic Johnson , Karl Malone, Moses Malone , that era was STACKED with talent and he still shined
2020-10-13 06:04
4 replies
mj has NEVER faced a team like gsw or the spurs. lebron's playoff opponents may have been not as tough but his finals competition has been MILES ahead of anything mj has ever seen
2020-10-13 10:51
1 reply
OFC not because when you had Jordan in your team in his prime you were the GSW or the Spurs of that era, they were the team winning 70 games a season.... I don't understand these retarded arguments Lebron fanboys come with it's like they don't understand facts, stats and context. Wow he never played the GSW Lebron had to because he was so good he took his team above that level what a great argument.
2020-10-13 23:34
MJ easily played in a tougher era against tougher opponents 0/8 bait
2020-10-13 11:35
1 reply
its not a bait and 100% facts.
2020-10-13 12:42
#122
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Portugal vasK_1922
mj best
2020-10-13 11:41
#123
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Germany Bier
Don't know them besides their names and the shoebrand
2020-10-13 11:48
#125
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Finland Vkims
You cant be goat if you have lost more finals than you have won
2020-10-13 12:41
6 replies
you can't be the goat if you've been swept in the first round multiple times
2020-10-13 13:12
5 replies
#166
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Finland Vkims
Who cares about first round
2020-10-14 18:29
4 replies
I mean the first round is good to care about, cuz if you don't win it, then you are out of the playoffs. Simple as that. Would prefer getting to the finals at first, and then lose, rather than getting swept in first rounds.
2020-10-15 22:26
3 replies
#259
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Finland Vkims
You know why NBA has "Finals MVP award" and not "whole playoffs MVP award"? Because no one cares what happens in first round.
2020-10-16 20:45
2 replies
And? You dont win the finals MVP award if you lose in first round? Of course people should care about first round - if not, then they're out of the playoffs. Its pretty logical. Its understandable that what people does in Finals is the most important part, but until the Finals the most important thing is to secure the finals spot
2020-10-16 22:06
1 reply
#269
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Finland Vkims
"Its understandable that what people does in Finals is the most important part" The exact reason why Lebron is not the goat, you cant be one if you have lost more finals than you have won
2020-10-17 01:58
#131
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China L0n35
MJ and it's not even close
2020-10-13 13:13
MJ by far If you take into consideration how and with who Lebron won majority of his titles, says it all. Lebron fanboys will try to downplay what Jordan did by say " He got Pippen" .. The fact though is that Bulls and Jordan didnt recruit Pippen when he was top 10 player, they draft him and made him to be a top 10 NBA all star. It is a totally different scenario. Lebron on the other way he left his team to join a superteam for easy championships and even with that team he lost some. Mj on the other hand he never left his team even if he was losing at first. Now if you consider how many rings Jordan had, what he did stats wise , the fact that Jordan was by far better defensive player AND if we add the fact that Jordan had all those stats in an era which defense was HARD AND 3 pointers a nono . Its not even close Have also in mind that Lebron at the start of this season was trying to recruit KHAWAI along with AD. That is not GOAT mentality. I mean you wanted two of top 5 players in the league ? Really now ? And last but not least. Who Lakers have won this post-season ? They didnt even met a team with equal players ( clippers lost , bucks lost ) in. It was a easy peazy championship for lakers, we all knew that would be the case when Clippers showed atrocious performance in bubble plus bucks loss to Heat.
2020-10-13 16:54
25 replies
If this was easy peazy why kawhi lost to nuggets If this was easy peazy why overrated trash antetokounmpo lost to the miami Shitpost
2020-10-14 15:26
24 replies
Because PG was trash and there are internal problems. Except if you think Lakers would win vs heat or even nuggets with AD scoring 2-4-6 points per game Khawai was bad at times as well. Clippers didnt play good AT ALL. Antetokounmpo dont have the team lakers have , give Giannis Laker team and see what happens. You can cry more if you want, facts are facts
2020-10-14 19:50
23 replies
is it lebron's fault? overrated trash akumpo eliminated and wayoff p choked?
2020-10-14 19:51
22 replies
No but facts are facts. Easiest championship ever for a ..."GOAT" Antetokounmpo didnt have LAkers team, nor rondo, nor AD. Dont cry with facts. Antetokounmpo with Lakers team , easy peasy
2020-10-14 19:53
21 replies
denver beat clippers so they are better miami destroyed bucks so they are better it wasnt easy
2020-10-14 19:52
5 replies
With PG scoring 6 points per game and players fighting each other in locker room ? Yeah amazing ! Miami took 2 games from best team this season with best players overall , why not Bucks to lose to miami with only Giannis as big star ? Give Giannis Lakers team and see what happens.
2020-10-14 19:54
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2020-10-14 19:57
2 replies
2020-10-14 19:58
1 reply
Whatever, stop crying , chill out
2020-10-14 20:00
lmfaoooooooooooooooooooo nice edit akumpo lmao almost swept to easy team by your standarts what a shit player
2020-10-14 19:54
14 replies
Why you cry about antetokounmpo all of a sudden ? Secondary account maybe ? Why so much obsession all of a sudden ? Give Giannis lakers team and see what happens. Also i didnt edit something, i added things i didnt mention
2020-10-14 19:55
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Antetokounmpo MVP for a reason Stop crying already, we talking lebron Turk.
2020-10-14 19:57
11 replies
yeah lebron is GOAT and u called lebron had ez ring bcuz he didnt faced kawhi and wayoff in wcf and akumpo in finals and i just showed how akumpo overrated trash and kawhi is choke artist lmfao kostas>giannis
2020-10-14 20:00
10 replies
Lebron is the best player in the world along KD. Lakers had an easy peasy cake walk in the park this post season with Warriors out, KD out, Clippers crumble and Bucks underperform. They didnt even meat any top team aside a strong team like miami. Lets see next year. Overated trash mvp and defensive player of the year , yeah trash alot when the "goat" had AD and a far better team than Bucks PLUS was begging the choke artist to join as well at the start of season. Your goat wanted another super team in the making. At least have some respect to khawai for saying no and make this season a bit more interesting at least in regular season. Not all want the easy way. MJ didnt , Giannis didnt , Khawai didnt. Only KD and Lebron did .. the 2 goats. Funny ha ? Facts are facts , you trolling or not cant change that
2020-10-14 20:06
9 replies
he beat portland many analyst called them best 8th seed of all time he beat 2 former mvps in 2nd round he beat best center in the league and a point guard who played like a superstar in bubble and he beat miami team who terrorized east destroyed akumpo and celtics
2020-10-14 20:06
8 replies
Oh come on now ... he beat ? Or they beat ? AD almost got finals MVP you know that ? In the end youll tell me you beleived for a second that Lakers wont win the championship after Clippers lost Facts man, facts.
2020-10-14 20:08
7 replies
"AD almost got finals mvp" Marc J. Spears and Chris Haynes revealed after the presentation, that the Finals MVP trophy was given to LeBron unanimously. He received all 11 votes from the media panel.
2020-10-14 20:09
6 replies
Oh he did , at some point most people had AD as the finals MVP, in the end ofc was Lebron but AD had some monstrous performances and a win shot, never forget Facts > your opinion
2020-10-14 22:04
I watched the whole playoffs tbh and I would have to say 100% if AD wasn't on the lakers they wouldn't have past the first round, Lebron is a great player but at his current age there are many players who are levels above him and AD is one of them. They gave Lebron finals MVP on some fanboy shit he wasn't that good any idiot who eyes seen that btw it's like the whole UEFA shit with riding Messi's dick and brain washing idiots, Messi was good but he was never even close to the GOAT players of that sport, at least Messi has statistics though, Lebron has nothing, nothing you can even compare him to any of the actual greats of the sport statistically, analytics or even achievements he's way behind.
2020-10-15 06:10
4 replies
just like mj when he banged every first round without scottie? btw lebron has better stats then mj what are u talking about his fg% 3pt fg% rebounds assists averages better mj averages more points bcuz he is like kobe ball hog and takes 25 shots a game he has more points than mj in all time
2020-10-15 13:12
3 replies
OFC he has more points then MJ all time he played longer, Jordan's prime was shorter only about 10 seasons, when you compare then you do on average per game and MJ is ahead in everything except assists which is fine, obviously Lebron would be a good passer since he can't shoot, all his points within 3 feet of the basket. Lebron has way too many weaknesses in his game to be considered a GOAT, Jordan had none that's the difference. How many times was Lebron selected to the 1st defensive team? How many scoring titles does he have? He's a playmaker because he sucks at shooting, it wasn't the other way around if he had the mid range that Kobe or MJ had he wouldn't pass that much, you don't understand context. It's funny you bring Kobe up anyway another player who was levels better then Lebron and also displayed way less weaknesses in his game then Lebron has.
2020-10-15 13:52
2 replies
0/8 kobe and mj ballhog they shoot 25 shots per game lebron isnt a ball hog by your point harden is 2nd goat
2020-10-15 14:32
mid range 2 points layup 2 points dunk 2 points maybe he isnt a retard just jack up shots also lebron shots better than both from 3
2020-10-15 19:28
lebron ez
2020-10-13 17:06
lebron goat mj sucked until pippen drafted lost and swept in first rounds lebron carried multiple teams to ring when he was cleveland they were contenders when he left they became utter shit and had multiple first picks
2020-10-13 17:09
1 reply
Khawai is best, check khawai how good he is every final, everyone should do what khawai does. hahaha
2020-10-14 19:48
This reminds me a lot with the schumacher and hamilton argument in f1, people will always hold schumacher as the goat even if hamilton will surpass him in titles and is now still the best driver on the grid, for me you just cant compare players from different era's, because we will never know actually who is better, people will make up excuses for both sides that will seem reasonable and thats the biggest problem.
2020-10-13 17:24
kobe duh
2020-10-13 17:22
The best MJ in basket was Magic Johnson
2020-10-13 19:07
michael jackson any day of the week
2020-10-13 19:10
lol everyone knows that the goat is luka doncic
2020-10-13 23:25
don’t know why people use today’s era against lebron. not his fault nba banned hand checking and call everything nowadays. goat should be able to adapt to the era they’re playing in it doesn’t matter. saying that jordan > lbj rn
2020-10-13 23:30
1 reply
bleacherreport.com/articles/2447467-nba-.. also they created lebron isnt clutch narrative which is bullshit lebron has most buzzer beaters in post season
2020-10-14 13:39
MJ has better sneakers so MJ.
2020-10-14 13:21
1 reply
#173
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
lol like he designed any of it lol, brainwashed kid, even if he did i dont think question was whos better designer
2020-10-14 18:36
#163
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North America bomberNTC
lebron
2020-10-14 13:40
#164
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France laglory
lebron flames
2020-10-14 13:41
#170
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Sweden flippig
Mj
2020-10-14 18:35
mj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....>>>>>>>>>>>> lebron
2020-10-14 18:37
Mj. Because he dominate all finals and season.
2020-10-14 18:47
LeBron all the fkin way.
2020-10-14 19:49
#188
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Europe Pts
who vs who (Michael Jackson?)
2020-10-14 19:55
LeBron is the best player ever. MJ has the best accomplishments ever. There's a difference there.
2020-10-14 19:55
1 reply
ahahahahahha 0/8
2020-10-14 22:02
MJ knows Bugs Bunny.
2020-10-14 19:58
#200
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Poland Kazk
Jordan
2020-10-14 20:01
I'm gonna say Jordan. Much more fun to watch, had more unique moves like hookshot, fadeaway, insane foul shooter, insane defense, rarely choked, hilarious trash talker, unstoppable force in terms of scoring, I could probably go on.
2020-10-14 20:08
2 replies
2020-10-14 20:25
1 reply
nice try 0/8
2020-10-14 21:20
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar goat
2020-10-14 20:14
LeBron has had harder competition, has won with 3 teams in both conferences, and has had a wayyy longer peak, still going strong at 35. LeBron > MJ for me
2020-10-14 22:05
MJ but if lebron wins back2back next season id say lebron is tied or pretty close to MJ and if LBJ 3peats id say hes better than MJ
2020-10-15 13:33
MJ had that hook yo, like a big reach, so he has that on LeBron, and he was a freak of nature without nothing of this new technology that players have nowadays. Lebron will forever be one of the greats, no doubt but i got MJ on that
2020-10-15 22:10
#246
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United States yurr
lebron playing against snipers. MJ played against people that couldnt even dribble with left hand.
2020-10-15 22:16
Mj never got locked down by 5'10 jj barea and 37 year old jason kidd on the biggest stage in basketball
2020-10-15 22:22
Michael Jackson
2020-10-16 09:43
Bill Russell 11 titles
2020-10-16 09:43
#253
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Portugal csmEXE
Both means greatness, but MJ is one step ahead. Lead de league in scoring 9 times against 1 from LeBron, DPOY 5 times, so we are talking about the guy who´s been the best offensive and deffensive player the league ever seen. Mj played with 1 all-star teammate, LeBron with more than 15. For me MJ is the GOAT but all the respect to the King James
2020-10-16 10:04
mj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebron because he is a hypocrite
2020-10-16 20:12
shaq cuz he is super cool and nice
2020-10-16 20:57
mj cos lebron sucking Xi Jinping off
2020-10-16 21:04
1 reply
nice logic
2020-10-17 17:13
mj is goat, more skilled and stronger mind.
2020-10-16 22:07
#300
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Europe jvesper
leTANK different league bruh
2020-10-17 17:17
#302
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Sweden wyv0
M.J
2020-10-17 17:26
Trident
2.46
Young Ninjas
1.51
Mythic
1.47
Eclipse
2.67
Gambit
1.53
Spirit
2.44
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