MJ 6 championship > Lebron 4 championship
Lebron is already the best player ever ( this is not even close )
at the end of his career he will be the greatest too ( in terms of accomplishments)
why they are not going to play 1vs1 ?
Lbj much smarter ... he knows to find the best possible help every single season ..
If he were smarter , he would have chosen to join the future winning team every season ,and then he would have won 17 titles already . He must regret for not doing so since the year he joined NBA...
Damn ..the only “smart azz “ in NBA
Jordan easily and I'll happily argue with anybody who disagrees with me.
Different era's different type of basketball, some rules have also been altered since due to certain players their way of playing back then. For me its Michael Jordan but that's partially bias as i grew up watching him play. Lebron has shown his skill & his qualities currently are a head of a lot of other people of his generation he will certainly be remembered in a few years by those who saw him play when they grew up.
I think until LBJ retires and we can retrospectively see everything he did, he can't be called GOAT over Jordan
i love them both dont fight for this guys
Well, Lebron is hella good, but also MJ was singing pretty nice.
well you cant compare messi to pele. Pele is considered top1 but messi is like 50 times better. Now if pele was born in 1990 and trained at la masia then he could potentially be better if we take into consideration the raw talent.
Its the same as the MJ vs Lebron argument, Players are 10x more athletic now, they all train much harder, even their shoes are million times better and MJ paved the way for that. Now if MJ was born in 85 lets say and trained with these new techniques would he be better? Noone knows.
Best thing to say Lebron is the best player in his generation, like jordan in the 90s and Kobe in the 00s.
Michael jackson didnt even play
mj's shots and playstyle is more aesthetically pleasing
Michael Jordan. No hate for LeBron but he wouldn't survive against Bad Boys Pistons' defence.
It's MJ for now. If Lebron wins another chip I think it's safe to say they're equal tho, and if he gets to 6 then Lebron frankly has the better and greater career.
Reasons why MJ>LeBron:
Better scorer (and by a pretty big margin)
Better shooter (when not including 3s bcuz they weren't thing back than)
Better finisher (League was much more tough and fouls weren't called that much)
Better free throw shooter
All that while being shorter and much lighter, only categories where Bron is better are:
Assists (by a big margin)
3pt (MJ didnt even shot 3 ball but Bron is better)
Rebounds (taller, bigger, forward)
MJ 5 MVPs, Bron 3 MVPs
MJ 6/6 finals, Bron 4/6
MJ 6 Finals MVPs, Bron 4 FMVPs
MJ 1X DPOY, 9X All-Deffense, Bron 1X All-Deffense
MJ 8 Scoring Titles, Bron 1
MJ 13 seasons, Bron 17 seasons (correct me if I'm wrong)
Jordan by far
Every team builds a super team now. Jordan was the super team.
why people say team achievements of those players not personal, i think that team achieved more takes away credit from jordan, if your team extremely dominant means easier for you to get personal statistics better
Kids today can't appreciate greatness and always has to compare legends.
They're two completely different players who played in two completely different eras of basketball. Stop comparing and respect both of their accomplishments. Both are GOATED.
who cares spaghetti sport
Kyle lowry is the goat dont @ me
Eras seem pretty much similar in terms of competitiveness imo but that's subjective. MJ is a better defender and LeBron a better passer. MJ's got the average records while LeBron's got the total records. LeBron's the only player so far to be finals MVP with 3 different teams while MJ is the only player in the modern era to lead a team to 2 threepeats.
This being said, MJ's got 11 MVP (5 RS, 6 finals), LeBron 8 (4 RS, 4 finals). At that level, that difference between the two is A LOT so for now, MJ is still the GOAT.
i think lebron mens, michael jackson make very nice music but is pedo i think
micheal jackson of course
i mean mj can dance and sing better #kingofpop jk
I mean the only thing Lebron has on Jordan is legacy because he played longer and more seasons....
Jordan has him beaten on literally everything else achievements, championships, to this day the highest average points per game in playoffs, the highest average points per game in the finals, NBA finals MVP every time he was the championship.... The EAST was GODLY in Jordan's era, the East was GARBAGE in Lebron's, weak teams in the playoffs and still his #s are way worse in the playoffs.
Jordan in clutch situations career overall shot 50% or higher in the playoffs, Lebron in clutch situations career overall is 19%, Jordan dominated and his efficiency rating is just as high in clutch situations as regular whereas Lebron in clutch situations or big games is below average actually.
When you compare Jordan with any other SG who ever played, he is ranked #1 in every important stat you can grade a basketball player on, Lebron similarly ranked with other SF is top 10 in everything but 1st in nothing but assists because he's played a long time.
You can't compare someone who's just a great to someone who is literally and statistically the greatest player to ever touch a basketball, even when he was on the wizards and old late 39s, 40s his #s fell but his efficiency rating stayed the same (highest of all time) oh and I forgot to mention Jordan was also one of the best defenders of all time, Lebron isn't. Lebron isn't even one of the best defensive players in his position or this era.
The only weakness Jordan ever had is he wasn't a good 3pt shooter, 33% career average....
Back then teams averaged 4-6 3pt shot attempts per game, the 3pt wasn't a huge part of the game... Jordan average 2 attempts a game, Lebron averages more than double that and I don't have to bring up 3pt attempts in this era of NBA teams literally chuck the ball all game because the perimeter defense doesn't exist anymore in the NBA.
So Jordans weakness isn't even a weakness and Lebron 33% 3pt as well so he can't shoot and he shoots more and obviously Lebrons mid game isn't even in the same tier as Jordans, his post game, post fades, his mid range was the best of all time, Lebron isn't even top 10 as a shooter.
This is the last thing I wanted to mention is that when Lebron is within 3 feet of the basket he scores 70% of his career points, almost like a big man, relying on dunks and put backs.
Lebron isn't even in the same category as Jordan.
MJ easily played in a tougher era against tougher opponents and went 6-0 in the NBA Championship game always found a way to win when it mattered most 2x 3Peats Owned the 90s just remember he played against the likes of Shaq, Kobe, Charles Barkley , Larry Bird , Magic Johnson , Karl Malone, Moses Malone , that era was STACKED with talent and he still shined
Don't know them besides their names and the shoebrand
You cant be goat if you have lost more finals than you have won
MJ and it's not even close
MJ by far
If you take into consideration how and with who Lebron won majority of his titles, says it all.
Lebron fanboys will try to downplay what Jordan did by say " He got Pippen" .. The fact though is that Bulls and Jordan didnt recruit Pippen when he was top 10 player, they draft him and made him to be a top 10 NBA all star. It is a totally different scenario.
Lebron on the other way he left his team to join a superteam for easy championships and even with that team he lost some. Mj on the other hand he never left his team even if he was losing at first.
Now if you consider how many rings Jordan had, what he did stats wise , the fact that Jordan was by far better defensive player AND if we add the fact that Jordan had all those stats in an era which defense was HARD AND 3 pointers a nono . Its not even close
Have also in mind that Lebron at the start of this season was trying to recruit KHAWAI along with AD. That is not GOAT mentality. I mean you wanted two of top 5 players in the league ? Really now ?
And last but not least. Who Lakers have won this post-season ? They didnt even met a team with equal players ( clippers lost , bucks lost ) in. It was a easy peazy championship for lakers, we all knew that would be the case when Clippers showed atrocious performance in bubble plus bucks loss to Heat.
mj sucked until pippen drafted
lost and swept in first rounds
lebron carried multiple teams to ring
when he was cleveland they were contenders
when he left they became utter shit and had multiple first picks
This reminds me a lot with the schumacher and hamilton argument in f1, people will always hold schumacher as the goat even if hamilton will surpass him in titles and is now still the best driver on the grid, for me you just cant compare players from different era's, because we will never know actually who is better, people will make up excuses for both sides that will seem reasonable and thats the biggest problem.
The best MJ in basket was Magic Johnson
michael jackson any day of the week
lol everyone knows that the goat is luka doncic
don’t know why people use today’s era against lebron. not his fault nba banned hand checking and call everything nowadays. goat should be able to adapt to the era they’re playing in it doesn’t matter. saying that jordan > lbj rn
MJ has better sneakers so MJ.
mj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>....>>>>>>>>>>>> lebron
Mj. Because he dominate all finals and season.
who vs who (Michael Jackson?)
LeBron is the best player ever. MJ has the best accomplishments ever. There's a difference there.
I'm gonna say Jordan. Much more fun to watch, had more unique moves like hookshot, fadeaway, insane foul shooter, insane defense, rarely choked, hilarious trash talker, unstoppable force in terms of scoring, I could probably go on.
LeBron has had harder competition, has won with 3 teams in both conferences, and has had a wayyy longer peak, still going strong at 35. LeBron > MJ for me
MJ but if lebron wins back2back next season id say lebron is tied or pretty close to MJ and if LBJ 3peats id say hes better than MJ
MJ had that hook yo, like a big reach, so he has that on LeBron, and he was a freak of nature without nothing of this new technology that players have nowadays.
Lebron will forever be one of the greats, no doubt but i got MJ on that
lebron playing against snipers. MJ played against people that couldnt even dribble with left hand.
Mj never got locked down by 5'10 jj barea and 37 year old jason kidd on the biggest stage in basketball
Both means greatness, but MJ is one step ahead. Lead de league in scoring 9 times against 1 from LeBron, DPOY 5 times, so we are talking about the guy who´s been the best offensive and deffensive player the league ever seen. Mj played with 1 all-star teammate, LeBron with more than 15. For me MJ is the GOAT but all the respect to the King James
mj >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebron because he is a hypocrite
shaq cuz he is super cool and nice
mj cos lebron sucking Xi Jinping off
mj is goat, more skilled and stronger mind.
leTANK different league bruh