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Twistzz | 
Portugal 3dent 
-Stew +FalleN Better igl despite bad results with mibr he still can igl especially with elige, twistzz, naf, grim in his team.. Another fact is that he would be the awper.. Grim could do what stew do as an entry and even better aimer than him. What do u think? Don't be toxic it is just an opinion
2020-10-15 00:50
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Fallen is in Honoris
2020-10-15 00:50
proof
2020-10-15 00:51
He is just as a "coach"
2020-10-15 00:56
ahh okay lmao
2020-10-15 00:58
thanks mate
2020-10-15 00:59
Also, from an article from "AFKGaming": "HONORIS further replied to a user who had tagged FalleN with a high five which indirectly shows that it will most likely be him joining the team either alone or with a few other players, maybe Fernando "⁠fer⁠" Alvarenga or Epitacio "⁠TACO⁠" de Melo."
2020-10-15 00:59
we shall see
2020-10-15 01:00
Yeah he isn’t joining honoris. Fallen even said himself he isn’t joining them. Honoris have also added another 2 players too
2020-10-16 12:35
how about no no brazil cunt in na team
2020-10-15 00:51
y saying cunt? i said no toxicity here plus respect a legend
2020-10-15 00:52
oi wohd ya sayin bouda cunt m8? oi said no toxicity 'ere plus respect a legend bruv had to do it sry
2020-10-16 10:51
are you fakeflagging or are you just self concious?
2020-10-15 05:57
#67
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Norway at0mic_cs
he dont want to ruin na cs
2020-10-16 11:12
#3
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United States tatsumi
Fallen to VALORANT
2020-10-15 00:51
He said it ain't happening
2020-10-15 00:52
never
2020-10-15 00:52
maybe can work
2020-10-15 00:53
yeah we never know
2020-10-15 00:58
there is no necessary change in liquid one day they will stop trolling
2020-10-15 00:54
#10
mir | 
United States smeeshi
Terrible idea
2020-10-15 00:54
y mate?
2020-10-15 00:59
#19
mir | 
United States smeeshi
-stew +awper -grim +igl
2020-10-15 01:00
awper + igl = FalleN ;) hehe
2020-10-15 01:01
#24
mir | 
United States smeeshi
washed awper + washed igl = fallen
2020-10-15 01:05
you really don't want FalleN.. don't worry it won't happen
2020-10-15 01:08
FalleN as a player is still decent but as a leader he is trash
2020-10-16 11:02
it almost seems like there was a player that suits for this role, idk maybe i'm crazy but there was a player in NA that was an awper and also an IGL, he won multiple tournaments with a team 2019, maybe liquid should check him out mens))
2020-10-15 05:59
#57
mir | 
United States smeeshi
no you need separate awp and igl (:
2020-10-15 14:34
he ment nitr0
2020-10-16 11:03
#74
mir | 
United States smeeshi
i understand that smile
2020-10-17 01:49
would be good for them but NA fans prefer their trash valorant players
2020-10-15 00:57
+1 lmao
2020-10-15 05:18
Id say if Liquid wanted to make a trade they should get someone like autimatic/koosta and -Grim. Liquid has performed well when they were well, liquid. Loose playstyles really helped bring about their fragging abilities and their rotational awp setups (stew, naf, nitr0) did well. If someone was having an off day or depending on the map, they can trade the awp to someone else. Look no hate on Grim he is a PHENOMENAL player with insane aim. He has played well in Liquid and I am proud of what he's done. I just feel that its kind of overkill. Liquid has so much firepower but they need a solid awper (stew and NAF are okay). If they get someone like the players I mentioned, I feel like chemistry will be there (especially with autimatic) and they will have a solid main awper/second awper. Plus koosta and autimatic have good rifles.
2020-10-15 01:02
+oBo
2020-10-15 01:06
Possible but Im not sure how he plays since I dont watch coL games. Im guessing he plays the same role as Twistzz or EliGE? IDK another rifler would be overkill Id say a fluid player who can awp well and rifle somewhat is what Liquid needs.
2020-10-15 05:16
Just imagine Naf Stewie2k Elige oBo Twistzz
2020-10-15 05:31
same prob as rn no awper
2020-10-15 05:57
IMO they just need a very solid player in oBo who they can rely on. + NAF/Stew train awping 24/7. Either of them are top tier awpers when in form Stewie2k Naf oBo Elige Twistzz
2020-10-15 07:02
obo is definitely more solid than grim rn but grim’s potential is insane with the right roles and system he can be a top10 player easily. stewie just doesn’t know how to use him correctly naf is too defensive with the awp and whiffs a lot of easy shots unlike other passive awpers, stewie is streaky asf and there’s really no way to fix his streakiness so imo a dedicated awper is def needed
2020-10-15 07:18
koosta/autimatic (preferably autimatic) would be insane
2020-10-15 07:29
Liquid will never be at their best if the team is set up so Grim can be a top10 player. Naf/elige/twistzz are the stars when Liquid is at their best. Stewie needs to prioritise making these 3 players comfortable, and oBo will just fill any other space very well. Look at previous Complexity... BlameF, K0nfig, and poizon were set up to be the stars of the team. Obo still managed to stand out while he was just filling the hardest positions, against the best EU competition aswell Grim can be great when he is set up to be the star of the team, but that is not what liquid needs. They just need a oBo
2020-10-16 11:00
I feel like that would be the same as Liquid with Grim TBH.
2020-10-15 07:28
Liquid oBo is the key
2020-10-16 10:45
i remember i said something about oBo, he's a player that's more suited in a structured environtment, obviously liquid is far from a structural based team, Grim is already good enough for the loose playstyle liquid has, but unless stew can really step up his game, maybe liquid should just bench him for an awper-igl in the EU scene, that's right it's time to go back to 2016 boyss
2020-10-15 06:02
oBo doesn't need much space to have lots of impact, you can see this from complexity. Grim was only good when he was set up to be the star of his previous team. oBo would work great in a loose style. He is very fluid and seems to always have a good read on the game/round. Liquid oBo = #1 team
2020-10-15 06:52
i don't know, from what i've seen in coL comms, he's more often quiet than not, and when he's in a team that doesn't have a real IGL, it can be easy for a young talent like him to feel pressured and overwhelmed but that's just my theory, maybe i'm wrong. i'd like to be proven wrong though
2020-10-15 06:57
Liquid is at their best when the stars are elige/twistzz/naf. Ever since grim joined, twistzz doesn't seem to have as much freedom imo. I think this is because the team overall is sacrafing so grim can be comfortable, and I can see why they would do that. He has never played t1 before, and is not proven vs EU or on lan. They need a rock in oBo that they can trust to fill any position, just like he did in Complexity. If Stewie coordinates this correctly, twistzz naf and elige will start popping off again. Complexity was based around BlameF, poizon, and k0nfig. As the 4th player oBo still had immense impact. Obo will make all the other players more comfortable while still having impact in whatever role he fills
2020-10-16 11:10
you have a point there, one thing is i don't know if liquid wants to pay a huge buyout for oBo, let alone releasing an investment like grim, or maybe just get a 6th player if liquid wants another player
2020-10-16 12:29
only if oBo was F/A fak
2020-10-17 07:44
That's more realistic moves that could happen but we never know.. maybe -grim +fallen
2020-10-15 01:07
While I agree with you on many points, I don't think they should change any players as of right now. Grim's just settling in (but I feel the same about him and felt from the moment of signing him, that he's just not fitting in good enough - so far, let's hope it changes for the better) While Stew is an okay-ish IGL, I think that's where they lack the most with the current setup. Getting FalleN would be a blow to Liquid, he could be good during a "honeymoon" period with them, but not for a long time, I think.
2020-10-16 11:04
Yeah Liquid definitely don't necessarily need changes. Not sure about Grim being anchor (but at the same time I don't know who else could be the anchor. Maybe stew?) Im sure Grim will get better, hes a cheerful guy with insane aim.
2020-10-16 23:23
+1
2020-10-18 00:21
FalleN washed up
2020-10-15 01:05
maybe not with a core of players like liquid have
2020-10-15 01:07
Well, I could see him returning to form in another org, but I think he will truly start dropping off slowly from now on. Only players like f0rest can keep his form for so long.
2020-10-15 01:10
i get u bro but we never know
2020-10-15 01:11
stewie to T1 valorant. you heard it here first
2020-10-15 01:08
it could be a shout
2020-10-15 01:08
they announce a new player in 50 minutes. swag, dazed, azk and skadoodle already in the roster bro :D
2020-10-15 01:10
let's see bro
2020-10-15 01:11
#31
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Netherlands staticNL
fallen hasnt been able to adjust to the new meta for years. his team just kept falling off. Wasnt able to ever really activate their fifth. He's done.
2020-10-15 01:08
but what i think is that with a core of players with an amazing firepower like liquid it could work
2020-10-15 01:10
Not bad AWPer, but washed up as IGL.
2020-10-15 05:35
buying out a 29yr old player who’s buyout is most likely at least 800k because he’s brazilian kek for that amount of money an awper like acor would be cheaper and better plus elige igl > fallen igl, fallen is beyond outdated
2020-10-15 05:56
-stew +main awper Glaive even said main awper is most important role on any team. Then they can figure out IGL
2020-10-15 05:59
They could get nifty if they want an IGL and an AWPer at the same time. Yeah it looks delusional but Cadian is a good example of such moves.
2020-10-15 06:56
#50
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Getting Vanity is the only solution
2020-10-15 07:00
why do people still consider fallen as a fix to teams(faze, liquid) and especially as an igl...
2020-10-15 07:09
They do desperately need a star awp-er. Naf was way better on rifle as well. But not Fallen, he sucks
2020-10-15 07:23
- stew + captain america ez fix
2020-10-16 11:01
- Stew but he has too much power in the team and if he does go, I can see others leaving too...
2020-10-16 11:07
won't happen. He replaced the coach with his fanboy caster. He completely ruined Liquid
2020-10-16 11:27
#72
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Brazil wololo10
They would be too op, better not
2020-10-16 23:26
#73
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Europe ROMAG
it`s the best option to liquid, he`s a good awper and igl, he wasn`t playing so well recently but I think that changing his core would give him a extra motivation. also, he know super well elige. vanity is also a good option
2020-10-16 23:31
#77
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New Zealand rOtten_97
No that will ruin liquid. You saw what happened to faze when cold joined? Brazilians should stay in brazil and not fuck up any other team
2020-10-18 00:26
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