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18% bodyfat
CIS t1m1d 
Is it a lot? imgur.com/a/4mae9Ja For some reason everyone around me keeps saying that I don’t look fat at all and that I don’t need to lose any more weight (which is weird)
2020-10-18 13:04
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what is thisapp
2020-10-18 13:05
It’s an app combined with my smart-scale
2020-10-18 13:28
#88
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Portugal P3rfect
what's your smart scale?
2020-10-18 15:13
#96
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Germany Bennime
body fat scales are hot garbage
2020-10-18 15:30
Body fat scales measure the electric resistance of your body and from there on calculate roughly your body fat. The ones which just have contact points are trash yes, but the ones that professionals use which have contacts at more points on your body tend to be quite accurate.
2020-10-18 15:42
Depends
2020-10-18 13:05
u should have about 10 % max
2020-10-18 13:06
Fake news
2020-10-18 13:08
No, low body fat (unless you're professional body-builder with unnatural low bf %) is good.
2020-10-18 13:12
its good for looking but bad for health, dicreased immunity
2020-10-18 13:45
No if you achieved low body fat naturally and not with some shit preparations.
2020-10-18 14:06
doesnt matter, low body fat = dicreased immunity
2020-10-18 14:36
Nope. If you bulk for the most of the time and then try to cut in the short period of time then you can stress your body too much and your immunity might decrease, but if you maintain low body fat 24/7/365 then your immunity will be more than fine.
2020-10-18 14:38
nah, seems like you have never been in touch of sport or culturism related things ;)
2020-10-18 14:40
Sport has nothing to do with health, indeed.
2020-10-18 14:42
Yeah, you have absolutely no clue about sports and bodybuilding ;)
2020-10-18 14:42
There is a fundamental difference between sport (professional bodybuilding or professional gymnastics) and casual bodybuilding (which I would never call "sport"). Though there are plenty of people who do bodybuilding casually and still fuck up their health because of their ego or their stupidity.
2020-10-18 14:46
How do you not consider casual bodybuilding a sport LMAO. I mean it's the same as playing soccer in the park or playing volleyball at the beach with friends, not professional, still a sport.
2020-10-19 15:01
stop yourself pls..
2020-10-19 00:46
immunity to what? disease or getting girls? pretty sure average body fat = decreased immunity to getting the girls. but if youre talking the flu or disease, more body fat makes you more susceptible
2020-10-19 00:49
please on english
2020-10-19 08:34
*in english.
2020-10-19 10:53
less body fat = more girls less body fat = less disease
2020-10-19 20:34
ok simp, if your goal in getting cut is just to appeal girls, then you are complete...
2020-10-19 20:40
Lol i like the russian logic. "Drink vodka and eat many potato to grow big belly; will help you fight off cold and disease!"
2020-10-19 11:46
10% not healthy dude
2020-10-19 14:21
10% for men is perfectly healthy, 8-15% for men is good range 10% for women is below healthy range
2020-10-19 20:35
#33
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Myanmar Lemo2K
u prob have 30%
2020-10-18 13:35
#137
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Sweden quacke
It really depends on your lifestyle. Here's a chart: i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/21/09/8e2109a4.. I'm 18 and I have 10%, and I'm lean as fuck. I undereat and I'm decently active, so I'm really only losing fat. I should be gaining fat if I wanted to be as healthy as possible. But as the chart shows, you're completely fine as long as you stay out of the red, health-wise.
2020-10-18 20:03
nice i guess
2020-10-18 20:19
#140
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Sweden quacke
Yeah, I'm just saying what you said about having no more than 10% is wrong and not factually based.
2020-10-18 20:21
well at least u give real info fast instead of making a 15 comments thread like the guys above me well done
2020-10-18 20:23
#148
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Sweden quacke
Thanks. :) When it comes to health I think it's really important to back everything up with facts. Saying something like "18% body fat??? that's fat as fuck bro you need to lose weight or you will die at 40" without any science behind it could be really harmful to a person reading it.
2020-10-18 20:30
That graph is kinda delusional tho, saying that 6.2% fat is ideal because for some1 to be in that fat % they need a very strict diet plus you'll have hunger problems and such low body fat isn't even healthy. Would say ideal body fat starts at 10.5% roughly, where you can maintain a nice healthy, and tasty diet without many restrictions. Plus this graph also considers 2.0% fat which is also so fucking delusional. Most bodybuilding athletes reach roughly 5% body fat in the competition which is awesome plus the lights of the stage and the pro tan make them look leaner and emphasize their muscles.
2020-10-19 15:13
#8
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Belgium ibuprofenia
You dont need to lose weight just get some muscle 💪
2020-10-18 13:06
how much % is equal to a good muscle mass? It shows 77% rn
2020-10-18 13:33
Your water % is kinda low tbh, should be 65% or so.
2020-10-18 14:26
I just read your height is 197cm , I can't really say u need to gain more weight cuz if you are rly 18 % ( cuz scales are not accurate at all ) then its a big risk , you can get fatter . unless you do a rly clean bulk and then cut which is hard if you are inexperienced. you should ask for advice from a pro not some random people . and yeah your watter % is low I think
2020-10-18 17:13
depends on his height , if hes under 185cm he can still lose some weight and make it to like 15% bodyfat which is good . but 18 % isnt bad either
2020-10-18 17:06
can't tell with those numbers without real pic
2020-10-18 13:08
Show pic Weight looks fine if you are +180cm
2020-10-18 13:15
If you are 90 kg at 180cm you are overweight. you better be 190+ with 90kg
2020-10-18 13:17
Nah, 90kg = big boi muscle man, sadly im only 80kg at 183, skinny boi
2020-10-18 13:24
If you muscly man then is fine yes
2020-10-18 13:27
#81
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France LorisDF
bruh I'm 6'(184cm) tall and I weigh roughly 150lb(68kg) but I wouldn't call myself skinny.
2020-10-18 14:52
wtf i'm 185cm and 20 fatter then you
2020-10-18 16:12
#130
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France LorisDF
and would you call yourself skinny, normal or overweight?
2020-10-18 18:05
#131
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France LorisDF
by normal I mean healthy btw ^^
2020-10-18 18:07
wouldn't call myself overweight just a little fat mayby
2020-10-18 19:40
U r straight from dachau, true. Im 185 cm and 80 kg and people call em skinny and dont believe i have 80kg.
2020-10-18 16:13
#129
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France LorisDF
damn rly? seems crazy to me cuz when I was 80kg and 182cm tall I was pretty chubby.
2020-10-18 18:04
You must be super skinny man, I was 63kg at 183cm awhile back now, its massivly underweight.
2020-10-18 16:28
#128
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France LorisDF
my BMI is healthy though, 20.1 is on the lower end of things but still healthy.
2020-10-18 17:52
I am 197cm but it still shows “covertly fat” so you’re “slightly” incorrect
2020-10-18 13:39
You definitely need to attach a photo to discuss these facts, face can be blured or just croped off, no matter, otherwise it gives you nothing. And , honestly, hltv.org is one of the least palces to discuss almost medical things :)
2020-10-18 14:58
#67
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Finland 7ones
Exactly. 90kg for 190cm dude, 80kg for 180cm and 70kg for 170cm. Unless you are dedicated bodybuilder or international level athlete.
2020-10-18 14:25
#121
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Serbia TheSerb
Thats true if you have no interest in fitness
2020-10-18 16:36
#120
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Serbia TheSerb
Thats what doctors say is healthy but if you are 180 90 kg but muscular its even better Im 173 have 80 kg i work in a fitness center i wanna bulk up to 85 kg
2020-10-18 16:34
#142
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Finland 7ones
Ofc but most of 180 90 kg guys are overweight even thou they think they are muscular. You shuuld have defined jaw, cheeks and some muscle definition. Dont bulk up, just keep grinding. Bulk / diet cycling isn't nowadays considered optimal.
2020-10-18 20:23
#162
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Serbia TheSerb
Idk ill probably try my 1st steroid cycle so i wanna bulkup for the cut
2020-10-18 22:19
#180
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Finland 7ones
I wouldn't do that if I were you. You don't need extra building blocks when on steroids. You naturally get bigger and lose fat with steroids which is exactly optimal for results. I think right now you are already more on the fat side. Just do the same but with steroids.
2020-10-19 10:03
#192
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Serbia TheSerb
I have around 14% and visible abs veins etc. Becouse im bulking atm i train around 7 8 times a week
2020-10-19 11:03
#193
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Finland 7ones
I think you are exaggerating your condition. I am 180 cm and 80 kg @ 12% so thinner than you. Yet I can bench 130 kg, do pull up with extra 50 kg and leg press deep over 340 kg. Over eating and cut cycling is outdated method from the 80's to get in shape.
2020-10-19 11:44
#202
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Serbia TheSerb
Many ppl do that still, you cant build muscle if you dont get bigger, getting bigger helps you pull more weight
2020-10-19 13:23
#203
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Finland 7ones
Many ppl still do that yes, but it is not optimal according to latest research. Maybe that way is just easier as balancing calories near consumption is not very easy task, but you don't need to be much on caloric surplus. Weight sure helps as even many of your lift distances are shorter.
2020-10-19 13:44
#207
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Serbia TheSerb
I mean i wont get powerlifter fat but i wanna go to to 85 kg and then cut with anavar to around 12%-10% bf so i dont lose muscle mass
2020-10-19 14:15
I am 197cm
2020-10-18 13:29
Then you should be fine
2020-10-18 15:17
OK
2020-10-18 13:15
I'm ectomorph and have skinny genetics, never had higher than 12% body fat, so for me it's kinda a lot, yes. If we talk about average then it's not that much probably but still not too good.
2020-10-18 13:17
Is that an app or what is it? And if really everyone says that i guess its okay
2020-10-18 13:24
Smart Scale or something like that probably.
2020-10-18 13:26
It’s an app combined with the smart-scale yeah
2020-10-18 13:30
Don't worry about bodyfat it's almost impossible to actually know what bodyfat you are. You can legit be 20% bodyfat and have abs if your abs are big enough and body composition is good. People's perception of bodyfat is so skewed they think they are like 10% bodyfat when in reality they're probably 17%. You said you were 197 and only 85kg? Focus on gaining more muscle and do a body recomp if you think you bodyfat is high, you don't need to lose more weight trust me.
2020-10-18 13:42
My weight varies between 90 and 93kg all the time and yeah I’m 197cm. Didn’t say anything about 85 tho
2020-10-18 13:44
Oh shit I dunno where I got 85 from.
2020-10-18 13:51
That won’t give a fully accurate reading on body fat. In reality it could be +-5%. As long as you like it when you look into the mirror you’re good brother.
2020-10-18 15:24
10-12% is god tier healthy amount of fat but not too much
2020-10-18 13:27
There is pretty big difference between 12% and 10% or even lower. I only had 4 pack abs when I had 12% body fat, but I have 6 pack with 10%.
2020-10-18 13:28
lmao ive gotta have it so low then, like 2 abs workouts after a long break and I can flex 6 pack again
2020-10-18 14:21
Depends on genetics. I never had higher than 12% body fat and never needed abs workout to have 4 pack. Atm my 6 pack is visible even without flexing, but I do gym regularly.
2020-10-18 14:24
visible 4 pack or 6 pack who cares doesnt have effect on performance
2020-10-18 14:39
I care about aesthetics. Not saying you should do the same. If you don't care about it, I'm fine with your choice.
2020-10-18 16:18
Yeah care more about what my body can actually do. good looking body will be a byproduct of that
2020-10-18 20:37
if you maintaining that fat% and tryna gain - you're gonna have a bad time.
2020-10-18 13:30
No if you do everything properly. Just get rid of the illusions that you will do it as fast as when you were bulking which resulted in faster "gains" because of more fat and water retention...
2020-10-18 14:21
Can easily gain muscle with this i also care about endurance
2020-10-18 14:40
Agree with #25. 10-12% for men and I think it´s a little under 20% for women, that is a healthy amount. When Alex Ferguson took over Manchester United, it was normal for players in England to go for a pint after training. He made it a rule, that no player could have more than 6% body fat, and I think that (or less) is the norm for professional athletes now.
2020-10-18 13:34
6% lmao that would never happen
2020-10-18 13:53
#50
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Sweden botl0f
there are just very few athletes with 6% bodyfat. football players aren't even close to this number. maybe gymnastics rings athletes or long distance runners.
2020-10-18 13:55
Football players are normally 10-12%, 6% is insane
2020-10-18 14:01
You may be right. I remember the quote, but it could be something Ferguson just said for publicity. Under his leadership Man Utd was the most fit team in EPL, and were able to decide many matches at the end, when opponents were tired - "Fergie Time"
2020-10-18 14:12
Yeah, Nobody cares about Penited.
2020-10-18 16:26
Norm for men is the high teens I believe. For athletes it’s around 12% and for bodybuilders it’s around 7%. Issue is if you bring you fat % low into the single digits you run the risk of huge injury because you don’t have the stability that comes from fat. That’s why athletes don’t go as low as you’d expect.
2020-10-18 15:27
Never heard that stability comes from fat, I thought it comes from tendon's strength. Would you link any articles/studies about it?
2020-10-18 15:44
The way I wrote it was misleading. You need fat to protect stabilizer muscles. So if you have a ridiculously low body fat % then they can’t really do some intensive exercises because your muscles are so weak.
2020-10-19 00:36
7-8% is probably the lowest bf % you can achieve naturally, so I guess it should be fine. Anything below is "ridiculously low body fat %" and not healthy.
2020-10-19 00:41
6 % bodyfat ? bullshit mate . first 13-14 % for men is good . and most footballers are around 8-13% there is no footballer with 6% not even cr7 in his prime
2020-10-18 17:09
2020-10-18 21:11
I dont remember hearing him saying that but even if he did , its a big lie. you can't achieve 6% bodyfat naturally and its way unhealthy
2020-10-19 13:46
dont trust this shit, i used friends smart scale with same app and had 10% bodyfat, 5 min after 18% bodyfat lol use professional scales or use normal ones for weight only
2020-10-18 13:36
#49
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Germany Bier
Yeah these smartscales do not work very well at all
2020-10-18 13:53
+1
2020-10-18 14:28
#35
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Canada sad_face
i dont think that app shows reliable data
2020-10-18 13:37
I think it’s pretty accurate tho. It’s not just an app it’s smart-scales and I checked reviews and did research before buying it and the results were almost identical to professional medical measurements that were made in clinics
2020-10-18 13:43
it is not accurate dude, it is what it is. there are many problems with those scales. 1. they miss out a lot of segments of your body, as the electrones will always move the path of least resistance. that means only your leg fat will be actually measured. 2. hydration changes results drastically. there are several studies on this topic, here is one of them pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9624647/ 3. Different types of training also have different effects on the density and composition of fat-free mass. body fat scales wrongly assumes that the density of various tissues is the same from person to person, and remains constant over time as you lose weight. therefore they are sadly not even consistantly wrong
2020-10-18 20:49
18 percent is not high at all, but between 10 and 15 percent is ideal for aesthetics
2020-10-18 13:40
can't trust an app i think the US navy bodyfat test is closest thing to clinical scanning, fairly reliable 18% is high 12% is fit
2020-10-18 13:42
2020-10-18 13:43
You and your thread are so annoying, what are you trying to accomplish?
2020-10-18 13:48
Then don’t click or comment them? I’m trying to accomplish my ideal body condition after weighting 157kg at some point and it’s not exactly easy
2020-10-18 13:50
Yes I know. But you are come across so insecure and seek some kind of recognition for your weight loss. And using any kind of machines/ or we to measure your bf% is never gonna be accurate. No matter how good they are. It does not matter what other thinks, it does not matter what the number for the scale is, it does not matter what an app says your bf% is.
2020-10-18 14:11
Im currently 19 % 83 kg 181
2020-10-18 13:50
would say 15 % is very good for the normal person
2020-10-18 14:04
18% is okay you should only be worried if your above 25% but do keep in mind the most healthy range is 8-15% range
2020-10-18 14:09
#58
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Finland 7ones
Your friends are just pumping your tires. You should definitely lose more excess fat. Young men should be below 15 % body fat, our bodies even work better in that condition. And aesthetic wise 10-12 % looks best, so you still don't look too thing with clothes on, but still have that sharp face and some muscle definition.
2020-10-18 14:15
#59
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United States IdolaMochi
I think im around 2%
2020-10-18 14:17
You ain’t
2020-10-18 15:31
You'd literally be dead. Super skinny guys are at 8%.
2020-10-18 20:28
#60
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Finland 7ones
PS. I am 80 kg and have basic metabolic rate over 2000 kcal ;)
2020-10-18 14:17
people who do body fat calculations are mentally ill
2020-10-18 14:22
+1 just look into the mirror and enjoy your 6 pack. 😎
2020-10-18 14:30
vitruvianphysik has around 12% bodyfat when he is competing so nooooo thats not a lot
2020-10-18 14:23
first world problems, come to nk
2020-10-18 14:25
Its clear from these comments that hltv is the wrong place to ask questions about fitness, you guys have no clue...
2020-10-18 14:28
#80
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Romania alexinio05
what's the app called??
2020-10-18 14:47
ahaha fat kid))
2020-10-18 14:54
#85
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Poland FitPolak
Any kind of weight scale measurments are irrelevant.
2020-10-18 15:00
#87
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Europe Nuskel
I have 17% and I've had people saying I'm thin (180cm 68kg)
2020-10-18 15:13
edgy. 20% is the limit
2020-10-18 15:27
if you make 1 meter line, other side is FAT, other is skinny, 20cm from both ends is bad but if you stay somewhere in the middle, you are in the perfect spot.
2020-10-18 15:47
visceral fat 5 is more bad than 18% body fat
2020-10-18 15:48
18% is pretty average. It is not that bad at all.
2020-10-18 15:48
What is the app?
2020-10-18 16:09
#114
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Brazil Catatauu
its average, you should try to lower it to <15% to get good body.
2020-10-18 16:15
Its average, I have 10-11% since last 5 years or smth and tbh, I eat anything I want. I mean, I'm not on some hard diet like most of the people that wanna be fit
2020-10-18 16:19
BUNCHA CUCKS TRYING TO COMPENSATE FOR A LACK OF ANY INTELLIGENCE BY FLEXING ABOUT THEIR BODY FAT OMEGALUL
2020-10-18 16:31
+1
2020-10-18 20:32
fat polak spotted
2020-10-19 13:05
i'm 100% get on my level
2020-10-18 16:42
what about your height?
2020-10-18 17:09
You're okay just gain more muscle.
2020-10-18 18:07
you need to stop thinking about this and start doing something completely different with your time.
2020-10-18 19:53
#136
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Denmark Gryde
+1
2020-10-18 19:56
People love to jerk themselves off over numbers. Weight, height, ORMs, BF%. Such a waste of time.
2020-10-18 20:34
The healthy range of body fat for men is typically defined as 8-19%
2020-10-18 20:19
<10 is everything but healthy my frend and its hard to reach on natural way .. 15-20 thats ideal for avarage human being.
2020-10-18 20:25
10-15 is fine as well. I would say 10-18 is ideal.
2020-10-18 20:29
#157
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Finland 7ones
There are many men who are naturally below 10 % just look at some major sports league drafting results for young men. Nothing special there. But below 6,5 % is hard to reach.
2020-10-18 20:58
Just look in the mirror, unless you have dysmorphia.
2020-10-18 20:36
He has crooked eyes so he sees shapes as wider than most normal people do.
2020-10-18 21:02
#155
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United States NA1L_
18% is healthy for the average person. If you are looking from a bodybuilding pov 18% is not that good. But it is healthy so you are good to go!
2020-10-18 20:54
+1 ^^^ What this guy said
2020-10-18 21:00
I got 100% body fat for sue, I be so lazy
2020-10-19 00:04
Not to be the bearer of bad news, but your body fat % is prob way higher. I remember I stepped on one of those scales when I was at my highest weight around 20% bf and it said I was 14% which was obviously wrong
2020-10-19 00:19
#168
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Europe poeya1
Everything else looks green so yes
2020-10-19 00:25
#181
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Ukraine crmax
Call me radical, but anyone over like 8-10% bodyfat shouldn't have right to vote and should be looked down upon in society. And don't get me started on women's voting rights...
2020-10-19 10:14
average im at 10.3
2020-10-19 10:16
Those scales are inaccurate as fuck
2020-10-19 10:29
for sweeds its ok most of them have about 25%
2020-10-19 10:42
I am growing muscles atm and have 19-20 %, but will not start cutting till have not 25 %
2020-10-19 11:02
It's up to you, but I would suggest trying to stay at 19-20%. Even if you bulk and get to 25%, you won't be putting on that much more muscle than if you'd maintained. And then you'll have to cut for longer, whereas if you stay at 20%, your cut will be shorter and then you will be able to eat at maintenance and put on more muscle at an earlier stage.
2020-10-19 14:42
look in the mirror and see by yourself, kids in 2020, im glad u can breathe by yourself
2020-10-19 11:03
#197
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Finland 7ones
If I were you I would keep cutting at least to 85 kg (or whenever you start to feel comfortable with your weak spots like belly, sides and chin) and then later focus on the muscle gaining part. This is because the scale clearly says you are soft. 18 % fat is not that much but it is obviously a lot compared to your lean mass in this case. You are a big dude, you will gain substantial amount of muscle mass as newbie gains with proper instructions in first half a year. Eventually your aim weight should be around 95 kg.
2020-10-19 11:55
unless you tryna look shredded 18% is perfectly healthy
2020-10-19 12:44
fat boiiiiiiiiiiiii
2020-10-19 14:13
Which app is that?
2020-10-19 14:22
Hey dude, these bioimpedance scales are tricky. As #103 explained, it measures the electric resistance of your body, etc... To make sure it is a little bit more accurate, you need to follow some steps before doing these measures. Fast for 2h with no water, don't drink alcohol 12h before and pee 30min before the test. This way will be closer to your real BF. If you do this prep before every measure, even if the measure is not 100% accurate (none of these measures is tbh), you will have a good idea if you are improving your %BF or not. I dunno how old are you, but try to keep in the range of 10 - 15%. Body fat too low (on the 3 - 5% range) is an opportunity for infections, cold and low eneergy
2020-10-19 14:36
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