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when VP were late for the game because they were finishing their other game they were forced to forfeit the map hltv.org/matches/2344389/virtuspro-vs-k2.. but NaVi can play 1 day later ? VP were not allowed to postpone for 10 minutes
2020-10-18 17:39
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FUCK ESL
2020-10-18 17:40
Fuck your stupid small peanut brain. I knew that forZe and VP fans are stupid, but I never thought that you are 30iq potatoes. You cannot even understand a difference between Coronavirus and being in time with being greedy lazy shits like n00bs from VP and being too late.
2020-10-19 07:30
Ahaha even so they have to make a choice between forfeiting without losing points or playing with a standin and losing points. This match cant pe postponed more than a few days.
2020-10-19 08:07
#175
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Estonia ROOK07
idk how people are being such IDIOTS like u, -50 iq navi fanboy, stop shatting in the comments
2020-10-19 08:19
VP doesnt have corona
2020-10-18 17:40
so? u think he wont have it tomorrow ? just grab a standin and play, like any other team would do
2020-10-18 17:41
Which team has a player that has a corona? Its a special case here, kid
2020-10-18 17:43
he is mad cuz, he is forze bettor
2020-10-18 17:44
2020-10-18 17:53
LOL. I don't think that match was postponed without both teams agreement... Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense
2020-10-18 17:59
jerry also malding on twitter rn
2020-10-18 18:00
i got your point, but i think this is the first time when someone from the team got Covid-19, so maybe this is why it was postponed
2020-10-18 18:10
It was, nobody talked neither with players or management. Btw, what was the reason for vp's one map forfeit against k23? Edit: nvm, i found the reason. But yeah, navi's problem is way worse compared to vp
2020-10-18 18:57
+1
2020-10-18 18:59
he is the retard
2020-10-19 07:25
Perfecto was around his teammates and the coach, that means he might have spread it so the players have to go and do a test, what is so hard to understand about that?? fucking idiots trying to compare 2 completely different scenarios.
2020-10-18 17:56
so? unless they will feel REALLY bad, they will still play, with or without corona, doing the test wont change anything and since boombl4 already tested others probably did too
2020-10-18 17:58
Match has been postponed for week, isn't it?
2020-10-18 18:18
it's an RMR game, they're gonna lose 20% of their pts for this tourney or their entire points (im not sure) if they play with any1 else than perfecto and lose 20% again once perfecto comes back.
2020-10-18 19:14
#54
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Sweden Lagge15
Even though it is Corona it is weird. We got multiple instances where teams in one way or another have been penalized for similar, but not exactly the same reason, during the online era. Does ESL disregard their own ules due to Covid or due to Na'Vi?
2020-10-18 17:49
I think even for majors you dont get penalized if one of your players has a health issue where he cant do anything about it Im not sure or idk if i saw this in some esic article Can you tell me if this is true?
2020-10-18 17:57
#99
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Sweden Swaki
North lost RMR points when Kjaerbye had to be subbed out of a tournament for medical reasons. They lost more points when he came back since the sub wasnt playing anymore.
2020-10-18 18:01
#118
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United Kingdom novaseer
and then lost them again when Kjaerbye went to FaZe?
2020-10-18 18:12
That was their own fault for not having a viable substitute player or having the coach play?
2020-10-18 18:13
#147
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Sweden Lagge15
ESL somewhat did it to North when Kjaerbye left mid RtR, but that could be because they knew it was long time, but North didn't get pracc time or ability to call in a stand-in Mid game in RtR Mir dropped internet connection and they had to use Dima for 1 map I wanna recall one other instance in EU but can't for the life of me remember team or players involved
2020-10-18 19:02
#3
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Netherlands Polakva
true
2020-10-18 17:40
true
2020-10-18 17:41
its still unfair tho. Should have played with Blad3 if enemy team doesnt agree with postponing
2020-10-18 17:41
Forze agreed They are nice guys This is sportsmanship
2020-10-18 17:43
2020-10-18 17:45
LOL
2020-10-18 17:46
Hmmm Maybe cus xsepower was against it , but others were fine Idk
2020-10-18 17:47
any source of that they agreed?
2020-10-18 17:47
In stream machine said Both teams have agreed on postponing the match
2020-10-18 17:48
Jerry also tweeted something similar
2020-10-18 17:53
#153
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Russia M13F
Forze would have agreed to postpone the match if they had been warned in advance, and not 30 minutes before the start of the match, and they were not asked if they agreed to the transfer, but simply put in front of the fact. ESL violated their own rules
2020-10-18 19:18
if thats how it works, k23 are assholes for not postponing
2020-10-18 17:45
#56
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Sweden Lagge15
That's no surprise though.
2020-10-18 17:50
They decided not to anger the NAVI school base
2020-10-18 17:47
Wtf happened
2020-10-18 17:44
Perfecto has corona and feels bad rn Match was postponed
2020-10-18 17:46
Andd why are hoes mad?
2020-10-18 17:49
#61
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Sweden Lagge15
Because this instance has been treated differently than other similar cases by ESL
2020-10-18 17:50
That's covid, u have to postpone match if there is reason like covid
2020-10-18 17:51
Flair checks out lmao it’s only 1 player they can have a stand-in
2020-10-18 17:54
I would say the same if astralis or any other team would have that situation
2020-10-18 17:55
But the thing is esl won’t say the same thing if it’s any other team it would be a coach or a loss
2020-10-18 18:23
#91
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Sweden Lagge15
So what if a player got an issue with the client and can't log in to check-in on time? Why can't they play with B1ad3?
2020-10-18 17:57
what a great comparison between covid and internet problem!
2020-10-18 18:46
#149
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Sweden Lagge15
I brought it up because VP had to orfeit a map for this exact reason even though the fault lied with the TO
2020-10-18 19:03
U r comparing deadly illness with internet issues
2020-10-18 18:48
+1
2020-10-18 17:42
Perf has covid Vp were lazy
2020-10-18 17:42
Hmm i didnt know this Maybe k23 didnt agree to wait
2020-10-18 17:45
VP had other match how its being lazy?
2020-10-18 17:43
My bad i didnt know that K23 didnt agree to wait Its the understanding of teams
2020-10-18 17:45
twitter.com/xsepower/status/131785000468.. looks like forze also dont agree with the decision
2020-10-18 17:47
Weird Machine said Both teams are okay with postponing fhe the match
2020-10-18 17:48
More like Navi is getting special treatment.
2020-10-18 17:54
cry is free dont bother urself ssaying flair flag checks out
2020-10-18 19:24
But navi is getting special treatment ESL didnt even let them decide they decided for them.
2020-10-18 19:25
maybe idk s1mple responded on his insta stories
2020-10-19 07:19
I know and it wasnt best response but he was mostly right.
2020-10-19 08:47
Boombl4 probably also
2020-10-18 17:44
boomich has negative test result
2020-10-18 17:45
But he can still feel very bad because of other virus
2020-10-18 17:48
other virus = obesity ?
2020-10-18 17:50
??? actual content?
2020-10-18 17:51
what other virus ?
2020-10-18 17:51
h1n1 for example, or many others
2020-10-18 17:53
oh ok
2020-10-18 17:54
fak
2020-10-18 17:50
Do u want him to die?
2020-10-18 17:52
No
2020-10-18 17:52
+1
2020-10-18 17:42
#15
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Israel mast1k
player of your team have covid-19, your team playing other game, fuck logic, what's a difference
2020-10-18 17:43
bro they were 5 minutes late, u can read the article #14 they already connected and were ready to start, but buster had problems with esea client, and ESL just issued a def win Lol
2020-10-18 17:45
#37
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Israel mast1k
so change your thread name to k23 bitches. or ESL cockscukers. how navi are to blame for the match vp vs k23
2020-10-18 17:47
bro im sure teams dont decide when they want to play its all ESL it wasnt k23 not agreeing to wait lmao twitter.com/xsepower/status/131785000468..
2020-10-18 17:48
#59
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Israel mast1k
im sure if you force any playing 4-5 (with coach) and community knows one of them get covid-19, this team eat a tone of shit from fans and other people
2020-10-18 17:50
Why k23 ? Its ESL's fault for treating navi differently but its a different case so its agreed Also Everyone is pissed off at esl for unfairly doing that to VP not cause of postponing for NAVI
2020-10-18 18:01
#16
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Russia necklace
Your point of view is just as wrong as what you think is wrong. These are two different situations and to say that someone can also get sick tomorrow is at least stupid
2020-10-18 17:43
#20
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United States omaega
nt p0mple alt
2020-10-18 17:43
#17
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United States omaega
it's because vp were late because of flashpoint quals and esl doesn't want competition, so they punish teams for attending events run by a different to
2020-10-18 17:43
Thats hardly fair tho.
2020-10-18 17:44
#57
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United States omaega
it's not, esl just wants a monopoly on tournaments, they've basically already killed off every to except faceit.
2020-10-18 17:50
Why? Trying to get rid of competitors = Unfair? As long as they don't do any shady shit its fine
2020-10-18 18:03
Oh yeah because monopoly is a good thing i forgot.
2020-10-18 18:30
sadly yeah
2020-10-18 17:45
Forze agreed K23 didnt agree to wait Thats the only diff Its not ESL its the mutual understanding between the teams
2020-10-18 17:43
where did you get that forze agreed? twitter.com/xsepower/status/131785000468..
2020-10-18 17:46
#49
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Finland AleksiBOT
He seems to be Manager of Forze , dont argue.
2020-10-18 17:48
So xsepower decides when forze will play and when they won't play?
2020-10-18 17:53
#82
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Finland AleksiBOT
He is giving an opinion not deciding . NaVi is deciding when to play.
2020-10-18 17:55
Xsepower is whole organisation? Whole team?
2020-10-18 17:56
His opinion should not be treated as decision of whole organisation
2020-10-18 17:57
#97
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Finland AleksiBOT
Check Jerry's tweet , he clearly mentioned that Its because of NaVi and how they would have been forced to play if it was someone from their them
2020-10-18 18:00
#92
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Finland AleksiBOT
wtf dude , when did I say that ? If you are referring to #49 , I was referring to Electronic_Best_Rifler user
2020-10-18 17:58
Not only navi decide when to play
2020-10-18 17:56
I mean bit would have played surely. XD And its upgrade only for them.
2020-10-18 17:45
i dont think he can play since its RMR tournament, would need to use a coach i think
2020-10-18 17:48
different tournaments(different rules?)
2020-10-18 17:47
wdym its the same tournament
2020-10-18 17:49
It's from current tournament.
2020-10-18 17:49
ok, didnt know
2020-10-18 17:59
Do you watch only navi matches?
2020-10-18 18:04
i always watch navi matches and sometimes t1 matches
2020-10-18 18:06
So navi not t1?
2020-10-18 18:07
they are t1 but i mean i dont watch every t1 matches of other teams
2020-10-18 18:09
Oh ok thanks for clarifying
2020-10-18 18:10
this kid lmao XD
2020-10-18 18:29
Fully agree, Vp was forced to give up map 1 and now just Na'Vi not joining = changing date. Disgusting and biased.
2020-10-18 17:48
They only have until Thursday tho, playoffs are planned to start on Friday
2020-10-18 17:49
Still - it is changing from the original time and date, which was exactly the reason for VP-K23 And Corona is no relief from it.
2020-10-18 17:50
Yes, im just pointing out that most likely they wont be able to reschedule due to playoffs being so soon and I doubt Perfecto will be good in 1 or 2 days
2020-10-18 17:51
Who knows, I hope they won't be able to found suitable date and loose as they deserve to, but unfortunately I see a world where organization will move all schedule due to this...
2020-10-18 17:53
It's really bullshit just goes to show how preferential treatment teams like Navi gets.
2020-10-18 17:48
When will be this match
2020-10-18 17:51
lol no idea
2020-10-18 17:52
I believe that they are trying to get one of those two stand-ins which are registered on the team, in few hours match will either be played with stand-in or coach or Navi forfeits. I dont see any other relevant solution for this
2020-10-18 17:56
#70
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Latvia YungPan666
+1 it should be tech lose
2020-10-18 17:52
expected, s0mple cant win fair
2020-10-18 17:53
Brazilians talking about fair LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2020-10-18 17:57
expected salty comment from irrelevant Brazil and n00b fan of n00bs MIBR still mad cuz S1mple >>>>>>>>>>> baitzera? xD
2020-10-19 07:28
#94
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Turkmenistan urm@m
deserved. Navi is the only reason this tournament is relevant, they need the money. when ur good at the game u can do what u want when u want.
2020-10-18 17:59
even when ur lungs dont work properly due to corona? ok, i wanna watch u doing some hard work with corona without any mistakes, protractions etc
2020-10-18 18:05
Are you stupid or what? He is supporting navi and esl here lol
2020-10-18 18:06
mb misunderstood, can apologize, cuz his comment not so understandable if he agree or not with author of this thread
2020-10-18 18:11
"when ur good at the game u can do what u want when u want." Wow really? ESIC disagrees with you
2020-10-18 18:05
Hunden isn't good enough.
2020-10-18 18:19
Lmfao
2020-10-18 18:05
+1
2020-10-19 07:27
vp was forced to give up map 1 because K23 didn't agree to reschedule the game. Also, these are different situations because I can understand not wanting to reschedule a game because the opposing team has a schedule that is too filled up. VP wanted to play the flashpoint qualifier and the RMR event at the same time, that's their business. A player being sick from Corona is a completely different situation
2020-10-18 18:02
proof on "K23 didn't agree to reschedule the game" ? i really doubt that, all kazakhs from k23 are nice guys, they are friends im 90% sure
2020-10-18 18:04
No proof, but it's the only logical explanation. I doubt that esl would decline a rescheduling of a match where both organizations agreed to.
2020-10-18 18:06
have you proof that they did otherwise?? Hunden seems also a nice guy but he is a fucking cheater so...
2020-10-18 18:17
why would they tweet about agreeing if they werent asked? if they were then probably they or VP players wouldve tweeted something^^, thats why i asked, otherwise i dont think theres proof
2020-10-18 18:35
I assume that the TO has also to agree with the reschedule. That is absolutely fine cuz it will be streamed.
2020-10-18 18:36
#148
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Denmark Xipingu
It doesn't make you any less of a nice guy to disagree with rescheduling because you can't manage a schedule. K23 could disagree and still be nice guys, because it's simply not their problem. It does however make you a douchebag, if you disagree with rescheduling because of, for example, testing positive with something like corona.
2020-10-18 19:02
tbh i think forZe wouldve agreed to reschedule, i think they are just 'offended' cuz no one even asked them
2020-10-18 19:12
#152
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Denmark Xipingu
Might be, which is fine and all, but I disagree with some's comparison between busy scheduling and being positive with corona, there's a slight difference.
2020-10-18 19:15
No point trying to bring logic to a hltv post with kids who have a combined iq of -10.
2020-10-18 18:14
+1
2020-10-19 07:27
The reason why NAVI got a free pass because ESL is sponsored by GG.BET. NAVI is also Sponsored by GG.BET. ESL Wanted to fluctuate the stakes of the game because forZe v NAVI was too soon because of EPL, NAVI will throw this match for easy skins and they can just easily beat ESPADA, their stock is lower than it was before, they bet on themselves and just get more and more money from there. ESL and NAVI are basically dating each other. This is all an inside plan.
2020-10-18 18:10
navi sponsored by 1xbet nt btw
2020-10-18 18:16
They did have a contract with GG.BET before, right?
2020-10-18 18:18
brother u gotta quit betting, you are getting so delusional, u can get through this inshallah!
2020-10-18 18:49
I don't bet, just delusional.
2020-10-18 18:51
nice brother, betting is haram
2020-10-18 18:55
I don't follow Islam but I respect you and your morals.
2020-10-18 18:58
What a joke! When one player tested positive , of course the other players need to be tested right away . You don’t want the other players to be carries to spread virus to other people. Life isn’t just about csgo ...morons
2020-10-18 18:15
#146
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Denmark Xipingu
I can't believe people are that bloody moronic, comparing a busy schedule to testing positive for the virus, lmao. Jerry is a whiny little baby, that's what this is.
2020-10-18 18:59
+1 stupid VP/forZe fangirls
2020-10-19 07:26
>Late to a game. >Serious sick pick one. First one is your own fault. Second not. I have to say jerry is here an ignorant whining b... Perfecto could spread covid to the half team and all he cares about is a rule book that wasn't changed during Covid for one simple thing. The TOs want to decide what happens in a covi situation.
2020-10-18 18:16
+1 > fAnS oF fOrZe > brain pick one. OMEGALUL
2020-10-19 07:31
#131
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Nepal Aguminok
how do u even compare this lmao, ignorant clown
2020-10-18 18:25
+1 forZe and VP fans are stupid kids
2020-10-19 07:26
#144
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Denmark Xipingu
Are we comparing coming in late because of a game you should have finished in time, which is your own damn fault for having a busy schedule, to someone testing positive for the virus? Are you seriously that much of a brick? I refuse to believe this isn't just a joke, because no one can be this stupid and still manage to breathe.
2020-10-18 18:58
other question should teams be allowed to postpone matches 30 minutes before game starts?
2020-10-18 19:27
#157
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Denmark Xipingu
Yes, if it's as serious as that is. If it's because of another match or just plain being late, no.
2020-10-18 21:05
+1 forZe and VP fans are stupid kids without brain really
2020-10-19 07:31
#177
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Denmark Xipingu
+1
2020-10-20 14:36
you're typical stupid clown... 1. NAVI said about this situation in time 2. Perfecto have f*cking Coronavirus so other player may be ill also. NAVI must test them and spend much time on other operations 3. VP were just playing multiple events and were late on their game, NAVI have extra-situation Jesus forZe and VP fans are so stupid.
2020-10-19 07:25
NAVI WOULD HAVE PLAYED WITH THE COACH IF ESL DIDNT DEDUCT 20% OF THEIR RMR POINTS
2020-10-19 07:26
+1 and they would smash stupid asses of stupid forZe n00bs
2020-10-19 07:30
yep
2020-10-19 07:31
#173
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Czech Republic MatyVlaky
Guys, this decision was needed, and I have to say that 2 players were with Perfecto on bootcamp (last months) And they need to go test aswell. It is so hard to say this, and decide about it, even though i kinda think that the decision is little unfair, but we will see.
2020-10-19 08:16
fair
2020-10-19 08:16
navi 2faced
2020-10-20 14:39
#179
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Denmark dyinbyran
lol
2020-10-20 20:49
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