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GOAT of each sport
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Finland TuureBoelius 
"Traditional" sports: Football - Lionel Messi Tennis - Novak Djokovic MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov F1 - Lewis Hamilton Basketball - LeBron James Boxing - Manny Pacquiao Ice Hockey - Wayne Gretzky Handegg - Tom Brady Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt Baseball - Babe Ruth Other: Chess - Magnus Carlsen Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan CS - Filip "NEO" Kubski CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz Melee - Armada - Adam "Armada" Lindgren Dota 2 - Johan "N0tail" Sundstein League of Legends - Lee "Faker" Sang-hyeok StarCraft 2 - Joona "Serral" Sotala Team Fotress 2 - Grant "b4nny" Vincent /discuss
2020-10-18 21:39
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#1
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United States Jaksin
CS:GO Is s1mple
2020-10-18 21:40
agreed, s1 is just better than dev1ce
2020-10-18 21:42
And zywoo has been better than s1mple for a year and also this year he may get that top 1 So if he does zywoo is the GOAT of CS? Cold or gtr have to be the goat of csgo
2020-10-18 21:43
#22
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Europe mAngOnice
GOAT is GTR No way a person with 0 top1 a goat or a person with 2-3 tournament wins a year at max
2020-10-18 21:51
Objectively speaking, dev1ce surpassed GeT_RiGht. 5 x TOP5 in a row. 4 x Major winner. 2 x Major MVP.
2020-10-18 21:57
#58
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France Asviix
but Prime GTR > Prime dev1ce so GTR goat
2020-10-18 22:14
No, stop being subjective.
2020-10-18 22:14
You can objectively say Device has been on a more successful team and won more majors than get right. But to claim someone is the greatest single player is always subjective. IMO trophies should never come in to it. Otherwise all you are actually saying is Device is the best player on the most successful team, nothing more.
2020-10-19 04:36
If the argument is based on Individual performance alone we should be looking at top 20s and career stats where Device absolutely massacres Gtr
2020-10-20 00:26
But then s1mple and Zywoo destroy Device.
2020-10-20 00:44
Mmm no? Zywoo has one top 20 finish (gonna be 2) and Device has 6 going on 7.
2020-10-20 00:46
So you just single out the number of hltv top 20s now? nice one
2020-10-20 01:55
He has 5 top 5s lmao. Its not like he's placing 18th and I'm comparing it to Zywoos #1s. And it's SIX of them total. More than anyone else. Yes it matters, get that through your head. Do you have any actual arguments to why thats a bad point? Or are you just going to pretend to be right?
2020-10-20 16:29
Yea sure, just compare device in game stats compared to s1mple/Zywoo. Regardless of how many trophies or HLTV top 20 medals. He is miles away from their individual skill.
2020-10-20 17:37
Currently yes. But if their careers were to end today Device would have been an elite level player for many more years. If we assume for the next 5 years these players maintain this level of play then yes S1mple or Zywoo will be the GOAT. But in this case consistency and longevity matters. Being a top 5 player for 6 years > being a top 2 player for 2. For context Zywoo has 168 maps vs top 20 Device has 1012 maps vs top 20. Its a bit unfair to directly compare their statistics as if they hold the same weight when Device has played 8x the amount of maps
2020-10-20 17:56
Yea that's true. device has been a top player for longer than any. It still feels weird to say Device is the greatest CSGO player ever when he's never been the best individual player at any time. I think everyone is on the same page in this discussion but the debate is just what you're own definition of greatest/best/#1 ect.
2020-10-20 18:46
+1 It also depends on your view on team vs individual performance, how instrumental device was in his team's success etc. But I feel like the fact that S1mple and Zywoo are generally considered to be in a tier of their own means that the goat status leans towards S1mple. I can't think of a goat in any sport where there is a player that is considered to be that much better over such a long period of time.
2020-10-21 03:18
The reason I can never say Device is a greater player than Simple is I think if Simple was in Devices position in Astralis they would have even more trophies.
2020-10-21 03:51
4 majors > 1 major peaked during 2013-2014 when nip was one of what 3 csgo teams that were paid a livable wage , while device is 5x top 5 player (and soon to be 6) get_right can’t even perform in tier 5 eu cs, device is the best player on the best team still sorry not sorry
2020-10-18 23:23
#92
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France Asviix
2 top 1 > 0 top 1 sorry not sorry
2020-10-18 23:50
top 1 when basically no team besides nip, vp, ldlc and fnatic got paid livable wages? i aren’t think that. pretty easy for a lurker to get top 1 when there is no competition and no one else played the most statpadding role in csgo device would rape get_right
2020-10-19 02:42
+1
2020-10-19 03:54
#205
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Netherlands atsook
is this a joke or what ? he got 1.06 rating in major that he won
2020-10-19 13:54
#61
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Europe mAngOnice
being consistently good is not being goat, prime gtr > prime device and get right has top1 with alot of wins aswell
2020-10-18 22:16
GTR 1 x Major winner. 23 x Trophies. Top 1 in 2013 and 2014 when the competition wasn't that big, only a few good teams. DEVICE 4 x Major winner. 25 x Trophies. Top 3 in 2015, 2016, 2019, Top 20 in 2014, Top 2 in 2018 when the competition was the biggest we have ever seen. The game has changed and became way more difficult, that's why GTR is not that good in the last 3 years.
2020-10-18 22:23
#68
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Europe mAngOnice
maybe you are right but for me get_right is the goat
2020-10-18 22:26
That's just a nostalgic feeling, no problem. Have a great day.
2020-10-18 22:27
#70
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Europe mAngOnice
you too mens
2020-10-18 22:27
Gtr is cs goat but not csgo ngl
2020-10-19 02:44
+1
2020-10-19 04:16
#24
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Brazil de_viLL
1+ Cold de GOAT
2020-10-18 21:51
#30
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Europe mAngOnice
its cold or get right, but since get right is actually puttin up positive ratings even after all that time, i would say get right
2020-10-18 21:54
its cold or device, gtr isnt even in the discussion anymore, he dominated in the weak 2012-2013 era and got rekt in 2014-2016 by fnatic all the time
2020-10-18 22:30
#73
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Europe mAngOnice
top1 in 2014 tho??? and it is also a fact that he is performing even after that much time, he is also a player with almost no haters, maybe he isnt the goat and flair and flag checks out
2020-10-18 22:32
flusha got robbed, he won 5 t1 tourneys while gtr won only 3 and had 1.19 rating vs gtr's 1.13 gtr is arguably top5 all time but not a goat.
2020-10-18 22:36
#77
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Europe mAngOnice
stats arent everything, anyway, i just say get_right bc he absolutely amazed me back then
2020-10-18 22:38
i know, great player since hes the only one who won top1 in cs 1.6 and go.
2020-10-18 22:38
for 2 years*
2020-10-19 13:48
-1 everyone here has 'major' titles for their sport/competence, s1mple doesn't have any
2020-10-18 21:45
literally 0 majors and 0 majors mvp imagine if messi won 0 UCL and would be still called the goat or Jordan/Lebron winning 0 and being called the goat LOL
2020-10-18 22:38
+1,this man a retard
2020-10-19 02:15
#195
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Finland AleksiBOT
GOAT with 0 majors OMEGALUL
2020-10-19 13:37
Yea but they Quick to say device cant be goat with 0 top 1s (I disagree) but then name simple Who havent one the only trophy that truly matters lol
2020-10-19 17:57
"goatness" depends on skill, not on tournaments
2020-10-20 18:49
No major win, no goat
2020-10-20 19:03
I see no bias here tbh
2020-10-18 21:41
+1 KEKW
2020-10-20 19:03
#3
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Germany AdiZen
a goat who never won a world cup? hmm (messi)
2020-10-18 21:42
#108
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Brazil Midk39
+1
2020-10-19 02:10
#150
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
Hard to win the world cup when his team has dogshit midfield, defence and goalkeeper
2020-10-19 03:54
-1 Check out his teams trophies and individual records, he was clearly the best at his prime, now is arguably. A German posted this and an Argentinian is replying later OMEGALUL
2020-10-19 04:01
possibly the dumbest criteria to judge a player on... international football is dogshit.
2020-10-19 04:11
#194
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Germany AdiZen
still the most prestigous football event
2020-10-19 13:36
ok? because it's the one of the longest standing tournaments and happens only every 4 years. UCL and La Liga are much higher quality football.
2020-10-19 17:53
World cup Will always be considered the biggest sadly :( but hey they give some good songs for em xD (apart from the last)
2020-10-19 17:59
yeah its honestly so sad seeing how highly regarded the WC is... the quality of football is so below par compared to club football.
2020-10-19 18:16
Without Xavi/Iniesta he could not win anything important, even on club he choked when it matters.
2020-10-19 16:48
"Without Xavi/Iniesta he could not win anything important" >literally won 3 leagues and 3 copa del reys lmao fucking idiot
2020-10-19 18:01
Important is the Champions League, Worldcup and Europe Championship/ Copa America. But its expected from irish people who are not relevant in football.
2020-10-21 02:54
ah yes because playing bolivia, paraguay etc is more important than beating real madrid, atleti, sevilla etc. Leagues are 38 games, they are the hardest competition to win. But i dont expect ahmed from germanistan to understand
2020-10-21 14:30
Only 6-8 of 38 matches are hard for barca, you undestand it, im proud of you.
2020-10-21 20:19
lmao, you have such a peanut brain.
2020-10-21 20:25
Still bigger than yours, so its fine.
2020-10-22 14:04
"ukraine, iraq, saudi arabia > sevilla, real, atleti"- ahAriZ 2020
2020-10-22 15:17
Never said this, but expect nothing from a low iq irish kobold
2020-10-22 19:05
#4
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Europe legal2333
nt
2020-10-18 21:42
#6
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Russia Drapery
N0tail lol
2020-10-18 21:42
number 1 in prize pool earned, won 2 biggest Tis, won 4 of the best 3 million dollar valve made majors
2020-10-18 21:50
#28
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Russia Drapery
Imagine thinking earnings are everything, he's not even that good of a support
2020-10-18 21:53
2020-10-18 21:55
so who is goat then? puppey? Kuroky? Miracle? Jerax? Sumail? these 5 are probably the other candidates in my head
2020-10-18 21:56
yes miracle bestest
2020-10-18 21:57
ANELE Clap ofcourse my jordanian brother . Yapzor also amazing.
2020-10-18 21:58
Yes they're both good But not as good as bntet Indonesia pride
2020-10-18 22:01
#40
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Russia Drapery
Idk but definitely not Notail LUL
2020-10-18 22:00
too much achievements to not make him at least consideration man. Also i especially liked when he made VP sad in the Kiev major, with that insane comeback game 5.
2020-10-18 22:01
2020-10-18 22:02
#50
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Russia Drapery
Good times men I miss old VP
2020-10-18 22:06
yep, too bad CiS scene in DOTA is very weak now unlike old navi and VP
2020-10-18 22:07
I'm big fan of BigDaddy, but for me Puppey is definitely GOAT of Dota
2020-10-18 22:05
puppey contender, he can be 100% the GOAT if he wins next Ti, but for now i think you can choose between any of Puppey n0tail Kuro Miracle Jerax Sumail
2020-10-18 22:06
I know, and even as OG fan i hope that he'll win the next The International It would be a truly iconic victory. 10 years ago, Puppey won TI1 with Na'Vi's golden team. Now imagine: he wins the anniversary TI after 10 years of effort, already with completely different players. Flashbacks from TI1 and etc, etc. And he'll be always immortalised as GOAT of Dota.
2020-10-18 22:19
#300
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Netherlands dabadpad
ez.. ana...
2020-10-22 15:23
He probably not best support, but he won TI as carry and support. Anyone did that except him?
2020-10-18 22:03
he won the 4 valve 3 mil majors as carry/core, won both Ti as support
2020-10-18 22:03
yeah, my bad. but still impressive. He maybe not the best player in the game skillswise, but he have most achievements of players and he playing for one team like 5 years.
2020-10-18 22:10
yea, not to mention he contributes a lot in terms of strategies. Some heroes have literally been nerfed because of what OG did with it
2020-10-18 22:12
#266
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Turkey ShooGTr
Guys what the f are u talking about. GOAT of dota is Dendi closed. Not about being good or bad he is just the face of dota.
2020-10-20 11:32
I agree on TF2.
2020-10-18 21:42
#9
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Denmark pdxm
Golf- Tiger Woods
2020-10-18 21:43
Tennis - Novak Djokovic MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov F1 - Lewis Hamilton Basketball - LeBron James Boxing - Manny Pacquiao nt but tennis - Roger federer MMA - jon jones boxing - floyd mayweather
2020-10-18 21:45
Mayweather lmaoo
2020-10-18 21:50
he beat everyone includes many, so yes lmao catch some highlight from manny youtube.com/watch?v=ih80WFTCTsU LMAO floorcleaner
2020-10-18 22:08
beating people by running lmaoo
2020-10-19 04:15
#238
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Spain Jbc12301
djokovic lmao
2020-10-19 18:16
Rafael Nadal is better
2020-10-20 12:13
F1 would've been Aryton Senna had he not died so young(((
2020-10-18 21:48
#14
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Romania Anonym20
Tennis - Novak Djokovic / Rafael Nadal F1 = Michael Schumacher Boxing = Mike Tyson / Muhammad Ali Chess = Mikhail Tal / Garry Kasparov CS = NEO/f0rest CSGO = s1mple
2020-10-18 21:48
#158
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Europe ROMAG
For real lewis hamilton i much better than schum. Tal is a god in chess but in terms of achviements kasparov and calsen are way better
2020-10-19 04:09
I don't agree with you on Lewis . In my opinion , GOAT is someone who built the team to win , didn't go to the best . Schumi - went to shitty Ferrari ( Crisis , death of Enzo , laziness , political and mind games , critique ) , was an element , why Brawn and Byrne joined , they wouldn't join Ferrari just to get sacked . Lewis - went to Mercs , great team , no crisis , the best specialists , no enemies , except for Vettel and Rosberg . TLDR , People went to Ferrari , because of Schumi People go to Mercs , because of Mercs , not Lewis
2020-10-19 13:52
so true
2020-10-19 16:11
s1mple GOAT ??? WTF
2020-10-19 13:52
#211
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Romania Anonym20
yes until now he is truly the goat, noone comes even close to him and i'm not a navi fan or astralis hater or vitality hater, dev1ce and zywoo are 1-2 levels behind him too bad s1mple is arrogant and quite annoyting sometimes.
2020-10-19 15:30
#15
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Brazil AWFenrir
CS - Spawn Football - Pelé
2020-10-18 21:48
Cringe
2020-10-18 21:50
#27
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Brazil AWFenrir
Pele - 3 world cups Argentina - 2 wc
2020-10-18 21:53
#16
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Denmark Duke1996
Corrections F1 MS Boxing Muhammed Ali + Cycling Eddy Merckx Triathlon Mark Allen
2020-10-18 21:48
boxing - GGG
2020-10-18 21:48
LoL-Jankos
2020-10-18 21:49
flag
2020-10-19 15:35
#23
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Brazil Z1CONTC
MMA - Anderson Silva/Jon Jones
2020-10-18 21:51
Nt but GSP is the goat
2020-10-19 03:57
Federer is more of a GOAT than Djokovic Schumacher is still the GOAT of F1 For boxing I'd pick Ali or Mayweather above Pacquiao
2020-10-18 21:51
Federer is more of a GOAT than Djokovic absolutely not.
2020-10-20 02:40
#285
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United Kingdom the_NDR
Absolutely so, his record is fucking impressive and the fact that he is STILL competitive prices he is the GOAT of tennis
2020-10-21 02:22
"Traditional" sports: Football - Lionel Messi X - Ronaldo Tennis - Novak Djokovic X - Federer MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov no one cars F1 - Lewis Hamilton X - Senna or Schumacher Basketball - LeBron James X - Kobe Boxing - Manny Pacquiao no one cars Ice Hockey - Wayne Gretzky no one cars Handegg - Tom Brady no one cars Swimming - Michael Phelps agree Sprint - Usain Bolt agree Baseball - Babe Ruth no one cars Other: Chess - Magnus Carlsen no one cars Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan no one cars CS - Filip "NEO" Kubski "CS" doesnt exist, and if you mean 1.6 then no CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz hell no, goatzera were have Melee - Armada - Adam "Armada" Lindgren no one cars Dota 2 - Johan "N0tail" Sundstein no one cars League of Legends - Lee "Faker" Sang-hyeok no one cars StarCraft 2 - Joona "Serral" Sotala no one cars Team Fotress 2 - Grant "b4nny" Vincent no one cars
2020-10-18 21:52
Basketball MJ?
2020-10-20 18:59
F1 Fangio or Clark mate
2020-10-18 21:54
i loled so hard i couldn't breath lmao,that was a good one 8/8
2020-10-18 21:54
btw football:ronaldo phenomenon tennis:federer f1:Schumacher boxing:ali mma:anderson silva basket:MJ by far cs:neo/fnx csgo:coldzera/gtr/olof
2020-10-18 22:05
#139
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Brazil drydden
I didn't know Michael Jackson was a basketball player, living and learning i guess
2020-10-19 03:41
yes,his moonwalk stepback is deadly,look at this youtube.com/watch?v=siXP1DNLeOo
2020-10-19 13:38
#149
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
Definitely not biased to brazilians
2020-10-19 03:52
no i would pick r9 over messi any day,he disappears in finals and big games,while r9 won 2 wcs and decided 2002,not to mention the weaker competition by far today,i would pick cr7 if he wins something with portugal mma is anderson or jon jones fnx won lots of big events in 1.6 and won 2 majors in go,not to mention the 100% played major won,neo is bigger in 1.6 but smaller in go in go cold has 2 top1s,2 majors and 2 mvps,gtr has a major and 2 top1s,while being the star of the nip streak olof has 2 majors,1 mvp,top1,made the hot defuse and olofboost,200iq player it's not my fault if brazilian players are great in lots of sports
2020-10-19 13:35
#199
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Portugal Kuba12
cr7 did win two competitions with Portugal bro
2020-10-19 13:46
i mean,like a wc,euro he basically didn't play the final sadly and france choked the game
2020-10-19 13:52
#221
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Portugal Kuba12
he was basically the one who led us to the final
2020-10-19 16:52
ronaldo 9 was clearly better than CR7, everybody who watched him knows that, CR7 might be greater but R9 was better
2020-10-20 19:09
#33
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Russia Drapery
Chess should be included in traditional sports
2020-10-18 21:55
CSGO: Coldzera. CS: Cogu Football: Ronaldo Fenômeno. Formula One: Ayrton Senna.
2020-10-18 21:58
+1 on Ayrton, he is a legend
2020-10-18 21:58
GOATZERA - a men of culture!
2020-10-18 22:02
#159
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Europe ROMAG
Flag checks out
2020-10-19 04:09
flag
2020-10-19 04:17
tennis:guga basket:oscar schmidt swimming:cesar cielo mma:anderson silva no competition for brazil
2020-10-19 13:54
Brees > Brady
2020-10-18 22:08
As a saints fan it sadden me to disagree. Cant argue with Brady. Brees in my Top 5 Qbs ever tho.
2020-10-19 12:57
#60
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France Asviix
Schumacher is more of a goat than Hamilton tbh
2020-10-18 22:14
#62
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United States ClickHole
"GOAT of F1: Hamilton"? Were you born in 2014 or something? You said GREATEST OF ALL TIME not GREATEST of this current era, therefore Senna & Schumacher are in a league of their own ahead of Hamilton when it comes to who is the GOAT of F1.
2020-10-18 22:16
#142
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Brazil drydden
And also Hamilton is racing guys like Gasly and Stroll, come to think of it only Leclerc and Norris can compete with him
2020-10-19 03:44
#157
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United States ClickHole
I mean Bottas and Verstappen have been his main rivals this season but at the end of the day Hamilton has hardly had to compete with anybody for his championships. Looking back at Schumacher's years, he had serious competition in every year of his career such as people like Hill, Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Raikkonen, and Alonso. I personally cannot regard Hamilton as a GOAT at all because he got his 5 championships with Mercedes whilst only ever having to compete with a stupid Ferrari team that bottled Vettel's chances 2 years in a row and an extremely hungry Rosberg who somehow managed to beat him in 2016. Everyone else is in a much worse car and we have never managed to get a decent perspective on 'how good he really is'. I know you probably don't follow F1 religiously like I do, but yeah I just had to say it.
2020-10-19 04:05
Norris? I think you meant Verstappen
2020-10-19 18:06
stopped reading at Messi
2020-10-18 22:20
Chess - Kasparov Dota - Puppey MMA - GSP (Khabib is closing the distance tho, 2 more wins and he might be considered as GOAT) Pretty much agree with the rest, and idk messi/ronaldo thing, dont watch football
2020-10-18 22:36
GSP mma goat .. hahahaha !
2020-10-18 22:39
yea, who would be your pick?
2020-10-18 22:40
Definitly not GSP for too many reasons. I consider GSP the biggest pussy in UFC history actually To me to consider someone as a goat in MMA is very difficult but if i had to choose some would be Jon jones , Khabib ( if he continue winning )
2020-10-19 02:41
I cant consider someone who was caught cheating as a GOAT, he admitted he was on roids,multiple arrests and scandals around him, he just cant be considered as a GOAT, great fighter but made so many mistakes. GSP had more than 10 title fights, 9 title defenses, champ in 2 weight classes, a great guy overall, public loved him, he showed good image of the sport. Khabib is flawless, he is insane, he will become GOAT, I dont doubt that, but he needs more title defenses, after he beats Gaethje, and then Tony/GSP/Conor, or even changes weight class, he will be GOAT. I really want to see him vs Tony and vs GSP, both are getting old already tho, so 2021 might be the last year to do that
2020-10-19 03:01
Sorry but gsp fought very weak opponents at times, lost to sera, he was refusing to fight silva with the "i cant make middleweight weight" for years, he quit after hendrix beatibng which he clearly lost and returned to fight in middleweight ( but he couldnt make weight ? ) to fight the weakest champion he could possibly fight and quit when he was about to fight some real deals to avoid another beating. This is exactly the opposite of goat mentality of "ill fight anyone , anytime , im the best " I dislike guys like Jones or Khabib for many reasons but at this point are far better GOAT candidates than GSP will ever be for the reasons i mentioned. Hendrix made him quit, when the competition started getting serious he quit ! Guys like Adesanya and so many other ex-champs would take anyone , anyday .. even Conor did that numerous time. He was aiming at the best of the best at the time in 2 different divisions. THAT is what makes you GOAT.
2020-10-19 03:32
You can have your opinion, but Jon Jones definitely cant be considered as GOAT Conor is a celebrity, a businessman, he chases money, not legacy, he isnt even in conversation for a GOAT
2020-10-19 03:34
I dont mind pick someone else. But what makes you a GOAT in fighting genre is to fight the best of the best and not pick fights to win like GSP did over and over. I will never forget how uneasy he felt between rounds in his corner in a fight for having a cut and looking at it and asking how it is in shock. Fighting mentality zero , biggest pussy i ever saw in any fighting sports and im watching fighting sports since 2004 with K1 max / Pride
2020-10-19 03:39
We can agree to disagree on GSP discussion Khabib will be called as GOAT soon, but not right now, couple more fights fot the legacy and retire as undefeated undisputed champ
2020-10-19 03:37
What is Handegg? XDDD
2020-10-18 22:37
NA football
2020-10-18 22:39
Michael Jordan >> All other Goats
2020-10-18 22:39
"Traditional" sports: Football - Lionel Messi: 0/8, Pele, Maradona and CR7 > Messi Tennis - Novak Djokovic: don't know enough about that sport MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov: don't know enough about that sport F1 - Lewis Hamilton: -8/8, Senna>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hamiltrash Basketball - LeBron James: it's him or Jordan, both are fine Boxing - Manny Pacquiao: don't know enough about that sport Ice Hockey - Wayne Gretzky: i think is right but don't know enough about that sport Handegg - Tom Brady: 0/8 carried by elite defenses and GOAT coach Swimming - Michael Phelps: don't know enough about that sport Sprint - Usain Bolt: don't know enough about that sport Baseball - Babe Ruth: don't know enough about that sport Other: Chess - Magnus Carlsen: Fischer>>> Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan: don't know enough about that sport CS - Filip "NEO" Kubski: it's him or f0rest, both are acceptable answers CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz: okay answer I guess Melee - Armada - Adam "Armada" Lindgren: don't know enough about that sport Dota 2 - Johan "N0tail" Sundstein: don't know enough about that sport League of Legends - Lee "Faker" Sang-hyeok: correct StarCraft 2 - Joona "Serral" Sotala: don't know enough about that sport Team Fotress 2 - Grant "b4nny" Vincent: don't know enough about that sport
2020-10-18 22:45
#145
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
Messi is clearly better than CR7 messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/
2020-10-19 03:48
>Stats 0/8
2020-10-19 03:49
#147
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
jesus christ youre retarded
2020-10-19 03:49
#148
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
By that logic bendtner could be the best footballer ever
2020-10-19 03:50
-8/8 go to bed and come up with better bait for tomorrow
2020-10-19 04:27
#169
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
says the guy who said #146
2020-10-19 04:40
why is Djokovic nr. 1 tennis? LeBron James? no, Jordan is still the better player of all-time boxing? personally, I would have said, Robinson, mike or Ali. Personally, I lean towards Ali as he had the greatest peak maybe in competition with mike but he didn't lose a fight until he fought Frazier and that was after a long break and when he came back in shape he didn't lose to him again and he didn't lose for a long time. But personally, i thought that tyson fought in the hardest age of boxing and he still dominated completely
2020-10-18 23:30
Mike Tyson and Ali could have had much more impressive resumes if they weren't forced to stay away from boxing during their primes. Some of Ali's wins were also somewhat controversial (e.g. Norton 3, Young, Frazier 2).
2020-10-19 12:46
agree, but personally, I would go with Tyson if I had to choose his record isn't as good as a lot of others but he was fighting in the golden age of boxing and obliterated most of his competition. and yes he had a break but so did Michael Jordan and he still ended up being the goat in most peoples opinion
2020-10-19 14:18
Imagine thinkin Federer is not GOAT lmao
2020-10-18 23:17
+1
2020-10-19 03:57
there will never be a goat cuz in then next 15 years u will have a generation of new youngster who will just make messi look like shit.
2020-10-18 23:18
how can you put messi and device on the same goat list lmao
2020-10-18 23:24
WARCRAFT 3 Foggy WOW: Leeeroooy Jeeeenkins MMA: Jon Jones N1
2020-10-18 23:58
#94
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Croatia mds818
"F1 - Lewis Hamilton" ahahhaahahahahhaahahhaahahah CS GO - Device xaxxaaxxaaxaxxaxa
2020-10-18 23:58
+1
2020-10-19 04:46
Box def M. Ali
2020-10-19 01:16
#97
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Netherlands Flevo
F1 not Lewis Hamilton literal tea sipper that maybe had 2 good seasons where he actually needed to do shit and rest is just the car bro not even fifth fastest driver rn
2020-10-19 01:18
#165
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Australia L0n35
verstappen fanboy KEKW
2020-10-19 04:19
Manny pacquiao lul edit - goat is either floyd or joe louis
2020-10-19 01:21
Tyson Fury
2020-10-19 01:31
maybe if he beats AJ and then defends like 10 times yeah
2020-10-19 18:30
Rocky Marciano?
2020-10-19 18:33
true, there isn't a definitive goat
2020-10-21 02:14
CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
2020-10-19 01:20
CS - f0rest
2020-10-19 01:23
#101
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Brazil ovomexido
Wtf ? Football pelé ( i understand messi tho ) Tennis Roger federer
2020-10-19 01:27
Wtf ? Football messi ( i understand pelé tho ) Tennis Roger federer
2020-10-19 01:36
#103
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Brazil _Awper
"Traditional" sports: Football - Lionel Messi Tennis - Roger Federer MMA - Anderson Silva F1 - Ayrton Senna Basketball - Michael Jordan Boxing - IDC Ice Hockey - IDC Handegg - Tom Brady Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt Baseball - IDC Other: Chess - Magnus Carlsen Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan CS - Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz Melee - Armada - IDC Dota 2 - IDC League of Legends - IDC StarCraft 2 - IDC Team Fotress 2 - IDC
2020-10-19 01:35
Sometimes ppl overrate sportsmen that were active 30+ years ago. For example - Gretzky. He was great no doubt but the lvl of competition in 80s was nowhere close to today's lvl. I'm not delusional Ovi fan disrespecting Wayne, just saying ice hockey made 100 steps forward and current players much more skilled, educated (in terms of game sense and tactics) and professional compared to 80s players
2020-10-19 01:36
#110
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Finland Jupe_
Datsyuk > Ovechkin
2020-10-19 02:11
+1 (except Tyson and some other heavyweights)
2020-10-19 02:13
If you look at the GOATs I've listed, most of them are still active in their respective sports. The case with ice hockey is that no one in the modern era has dominated quite like Gretzky did. Ovechkin is for sure the greatest goalscorer of all time, but I think he is too one-dimensional as a player to be the GOAT. Crosby had a chance perhaps but he fell off after 2012 or so imo.
2020-10-19 13:16
Football - R9 - Ronaldinho - Pelé
2020-10-19 01:38
#109
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Finland Jupe_
Federer > Nadal > Djokovic Michael Jordan > Lebron James
2020-10-19 02:10
#114
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United States Festive_
thank you. finally someone with some sense
2020-10-19 02:16
let these kids think otherwise
2020-10-19 02:27
should be perfect İf you add Schumacher>Hamilton
2020-10-19 03:03
#222
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Denmark Zorrondo
nt boomer
2020-10-19 17:01
#113
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Brazil goatzera
Stop reading at: Football - Lionel Messi
2020-10-19 02:16
racist brazilians don't want to admit he is the goat lol so funny
2020-10-19 04:46
#210
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Actually, even CriRo or Maradona is more relevant than Messi, because he didn't achieve anything with the national team.
2020-10-19 14:19
is chess not a traditional sport? why?
2020-10-19 02:23
never knew chess required physical exercise
2020-10-19 03:43
not all sports are about physical activities, chess is a sport since the 1900s
2020-10-19 17:41
who?
2020-10-19 02:37
stop reading at lionel
2020-10-19 02:39
djokovic,khabib,hamilton ?? These three should not be in conversation for GOAT imo
2020-10-19 03:01
in what fucking way isnt djokovic in the goat tennis conversation??? Like who the fuck doesnt agree that he nadal and federer are the best 3? And each one of them has their argument.
2020-10-19 05:13
they are the best 3,but that just it for djokovic "imo".Flag checks out btw
2020-10-20 00:25
#289
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Argentina atriX^
Are you for real? Djokovic is only 3 GS behind Federer and Nadal, he is ahead against both of them in head to head matches. Djokovic is currently in second place in total weeks as top1 only behind Federer and only by 19 weeks (though Federer has a much higher max consecutive) and he's 6 years younger. I still think Federer is GOAT though.
2020-10-21 03:22
Cs is elemeNt
2020-10-19 03:02
"Traditional" sports: Football - Ronaldo Nazário Tennis - Gustavo "Guga" Kuerten MMA - Anderson Silva F1 - Ayrton Senna Basketball - Oscar Schmidt Boxing - Popó Freitas Ice Hockey - ?????? Handegg - Giselle Bündchen's husband Swimming - Cesar Cielo Sprint - ???????? Baseball - ?????? Other: Chess - ????? Snooker - Baianinho de Mauá CS - cogu CS:GO - Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo Melee - ????? Dota 2 - ???? League of Legends - ???????? StarCraft 2 - ??????? Team Fotress 2 - ????????
2020-10-19 03:14
#215
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Brazil pqsntc
they are not prepared to this list.
2020-10-19 15:41
Name checks out
2020-10-20 03:50
Football = Pelé F1 = Ayrton Senna MMA = Fiódor Emelianenko Basketball = Michael Jordan
2020-10-19 03:19
Tennis - Novak Djokovic KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-10-19 03:43
obviously either federrer or nadal
2020-10-19 04:45
+1 federer the true goat
2020-10-19 04:46
#143
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United Kingdom pnuTblyat
Manny Pacquiao??????????????????????????
2020-10-19 03:46
*champion in 8 different divisions *champion in 5 different weight classes *beat 22 world champions (25 including rematches) *beat 8 hall of famers + plenty of future hall of famers *beat 9 undefeated boxers *champion in four different decades *voted fighter of the decade *oldest welterweight champion¨ How do you even argue against that?
2020-10-19 12:28
#154
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Portugal ZePagode
Tennis - Roger Federer F1 - Ayrton Senna Basketball - MJ
2020-10-19 03:59
wtf f1 goat is schumacher, hamilton got, by far, the best car for many years. Ayrton Senna R.I.P
2020-10-19 04:02
football - messi/ronaldo formula 1 - lewis hamilton / michael schumacher basketball - lebron / kobe / jordan /johnson motogp - valentino rossi
2020-10-19 04:19
Hardcore - Mia Khalifah
2020-10-19 04:44
0/8
2020-10-19 04:45
Really on point. Only disagree is basketball mj is just plain better.
2020-10-19 05:15
lol retard 15 year old kids... putting up retard list...
2020-10-19 05:40
#181
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Cambodia Alesha_dj
F1 Leclerc or Verstappen, Hamilton might as well be kicked out of Merc this year Sorry for off top
2020-10-19 12:30
Greatest of all time , both Charles and Max can take a place in the Greats
2020-10-19 13:57
Schumacher is still the GOAT for me on F1 but that can change, Lewis is almost equal for me. Michael Jordan is still the GOAT, LeBron never was the GOAT and never will be regarding his age and curse 6 final loss record. From current players, Doncic, Zion(if he doesn't become Greg Oden) and Ja Morant have the possibility to become GOAT and I'll accept that when they become one.
2020-10-19 12:53
why Novak Djokovic instead of nadal or federrer
2020-10-19 12:54
hokkey is ovechkin
2020-10-19 12:58
#192
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Norway AtomicXD
+1
2020-10-19 13:31
hehe novak only 17 grandslams 3 slams less than goats :) and i like how novak can lose 6-0 3-0 you can still call him the best just another day in the business xD
2020-10-19 13:37
#198
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Brazil arunino
CS:GO - S1mple
2020-10-19 13:40
F1 - Hamilton ? Your opinion , but for me Schumi is much better
2020-10-19 13:47
#208
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Football - Pele Tennis - Roger Federer MMA - Fedor Emelianenko F1 - Michael Schumacher Basketball - Shaquille O'Neal Boxing - Vladimir Klitschko Ice Hockey - Alexander Ovechkin (soon :) ) Handegg - Don't know Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt Baseball - Don't know
2020-10-19 14:06
nice bait
2020-10-19 15:35
Competitive programming- Gennady Korotkevich
2020-10-19 15:37
In football it is definitely not Messi, he chocked in the most important games. Players like Pele, Maradona, R9, Zidane >>>>> Messi. Same in basketball, how can you put Lebron over Jordan? Not a good list at all.
2020-10-19 15:53
stopped reading at "F1 - Lewis Hamilton" xaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-10-19 16:01
Box - Muhammed Ali Who tf is mannequin?
2020-10-19 16:07
#223
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Germany sommares
minecraft?
2020-10-19 17:05
#224
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Denmark pluskyyy
shit list
2020-10-19 17:06
#225
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Turkey orionski
stopped reading at "GOAT". such a bullshit term
2020-10-19 17:09
great list actually
2020-10-19 17:44
Basketball is fucking Michael Jordan do not even start on that one and Boxing dude have you fucking never heard of the greatest of all time Muhammad Ali Chess have you never heard of Garry Kasparov ????? other then that decent list
2020-10-19 17:45
handegg OMEGALUL
2020-10-19 17:59
#235
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Europe Baunsator
MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov so beating connor makes u GOAT
2020-10-19 18:06
and Poirier and Iaquinta and Johnson ?
2020-10-20 11:16
#236
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United States D0xx
GSP is the Goat of MMA by far, Khabib may be undefeated but GSP has victories over much better competiton as well as coming out of a 5 year hiatus to beat Michael Bisping. Khabib does not have nearly the same level of competition that he has beaten and has to in my opinon win 2-3 more fight before I consider him the GOAT.
2020-10-19 18:08
#241
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Brazil Snaipa_
Basketball: Michael Jordan, guy was amazing in his prime NFL: Tom Brady Football: Pelé, wtf Messi choked too many times to be considered the goat
2020-10-19 18:35
stopped reading at hamilton
2020-10-19 20:27
"Traditional" sports: Football - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Tennis - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev MMA - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev F1 - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Basketball - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Boxing - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Ice Hockey - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Handegg - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Swimming - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Sprint - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Baseball - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Other: Chess - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Snooker - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev CS - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev CS:GO - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Melee - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Dota 2 - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev League of Legends - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev StarCraft 2 - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev Team Fotress 2 - Aleksandr "s1mple" Kostyliev
2020-10-19 20:35
#295
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Russia _VaLT_
+1
2020-10-21 20:26
Football - Neymar Tennis - Rafa Nadal MMA - Daniel Cormier F1 - Schumacher Basketball - Kareem Abdul Jabbar Boxing - Conor McGregor Ice Hockey - who? Handegg - Pat Mahomeboy Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt Baseball - derek jeter
2020-10-20 00:30
no fucking way you put pacquiao over mayweather wtf. Everything else is fair, maybe some debatable choices, but overall it was solid. Idk why you included esports in there, that's a little weird.
2020-10-20 00:31
*champion in 8 different divisions *champion in 5 different weight classes *beat 22 world champions (25 including rematches) *beat 8 hall of famers + plenty of future hall of famers *beat 9 undefeated boxers *champion in four different decades *voted fighter of the decade *oldest welterweight champion Pacquaio has too many achievements
2020-10-20 11:15
where i am ? You forget me bro
2020-10-20 00:38
cs:go = coldzera, no discuss here ´-`
2020-10-20 00:39
Best of the bests Football - Statistics = Ronaldo/Messi, Talent = Maradona,R9 MMA - Fedor Emeliananko and Mark Hunt in their prime Muay Thai = Samart Payakaroon Basketball - Winner= MJ, Talent = Allen Iverson Boxing - Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali, Prime Mike Tyson, Lennow Lewis Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt CS - NEO, forest, GTR, cogu CS:GO - device, simple, zywoo, coldzera,niko, xantares EU4 - florryworry Mortal Kombat - SonicFox
2020-10-20 00:55
xantares xd
2020-10-20 11:16
skateboarding - Tiago Lemos #RUNTL #IarePopThatz #ssheellife #baggy #switchmongopush #campinasREPRESENTS
2020-10-20 02:02
sc2 goat forsen forsenE
2020-10-20 03:35
guys, someone can explain me what "goat" means?
2020-10-20 03:42
Goat is an animal
2020-10-20 03:43
thx man!!!!!!
2020-10-20 03:48
No problem :)
2020-10-20 03:49
Tennis - Novak Djokovic. there is only one Roger
2020-10-20 11:18
+1
2020-10-20 18:50
Cricket - Sachin Tendulkar
2020-10-20 11:41
#268
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Finland R3ALMM
Hockey: Ovechkin
2020-10-20 12:04
Boxing is muhammad ali 100%
2020-10-20 12:07
axel schulz
2020-10-22 15:22
Chess - Magnus Carlsen Dota 2 - Johan "N0tail" Sundstein StarCraft 2 - Joona "Serral" Sotala LMAO
2020-10-20 19:02
All very worthy opinions, friend. :) Bearing in mind there can be no discussion when attempting to discuss absolutes, rendering your topic obsolete. Have a good day.
2020-10-20 20:50
You mean according to you.
2020-10-21 02:59
#291
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Finland Teukkasd
basketball = michael jordan
2020-10-21 03:54
Boxing - Manny Pacquiao - pinoy boxing lul F1 - Lewis Hamilton - eww shit Football - Lionel Messi Tennis - Novak Djokovic MMA - Khabib Nurmagomedov Basketball - LeBron James - goat in usa not world Ice Hockey - Wayne Gretzky Handegg - Tom Brady - goat only in usa not in the world Swimming - Michael Phelps Sprint - Usain Bolt Baseball - Babe Ruth - USA? Chess - Magnus Carlsen Snooker - Ronnie O'Sullivan CS - Filip "NEO" Kubski - GTR? CS:GO - Nicolai "dev1ce" Reedtz Melee - Armada - Adam "Armada" Lindgren - i never heard that game Dota 2 - Johan "N0tail" Sundstein League of Legends - Lee "Faker" Sang-hyeok StarCraft 2 - Joona "Serral" Sotala - koreans better Team Fotress 2 - Grant "b4nny" Vincent - TF2 very popular online game?
2020-10-22 14:20
#301
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Europe Pts
imagine thinking dev1ce is the goat of cs:go.... so delusional wtf
2020-10-22 15:25
#302
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Netherlands dabadpad
Football - johan cruyff or ronaldinho rest i can live with that
2020-10-22 15:26
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3.15
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1.69
Eclipse
2.08
Sprout
2.41
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1.59
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