best teams mibr, fnatic and navi. s1mple at that time probably cogu or markeloff, if you're talking about awpers
goat teams - hard to choose between fnatic and sk
goat player - f0rest
the scene wasnt stacked as nowdays, the players/teams/organizers did wonders with what they got at the time
Teams, like Astralis. Probably Na'Vi 2010, SK 2003-2005, Golden Five\ESC.
s1mple? Don't know, back then didn't even exist "bait" termin. SpawN was more like ScreaM, but greater. Anyway, goat player is elemeNt no doubt.
Events on lan in 1.6 era weren't so big and famous and there weren't that much teams like now. But best teams were Navi , fnatic.
The equivalent of s1mple in cs 1.6 would be markeloff.
sk fnatic navi nip mtw.dk mouz vp noa
hard to pick the "greatest"
Tons of great lineups, but in terms of raw skill on top of best strats/tactics then mTw/NaVi in 2010 would be my pick
Anyone saying anything other than Golden Five and Neo deserves permaban on HLTV.
taz, neo, kuben, loordb, luq/pasha
if you say something other we cannot be friends
Sk was the best, no doubt.
But on a totally biased note, watching g3x was da bomb, man.. KIKOO, c0gu, pava.. gaules.. good times
f0rest vs neo personal ingame rivalry is legendary for GOAT
neo has got more significant trophies of old times (ESWC, WCG) and he shined on that events as well but decent individual perform was on side of f0rest imo for decade and more as we can see nowadays
best team overall is FragExecutors aka GoldenFive/MYM.Poland/Pentagram G-Shock in terms of winning tournaments
SK vs fnatic is El Classico of Sweden CS - The truly homeland of CS 1.6
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm calling for you
Best 1.6 team is Fnatic 2011 because GOD XIZT
VP NaVi and SK was the lastest cs 1.6 kings, but in the deep past, NiP, fnatic, 3D, mymTw, mibr.
SK, fnatic, Na'Vi and the Polish golden five
The danes had good moments and the brazilians had also.
f0rest AND neo as one of the greatests.
I havent followed the scene, but people say GOAT is Neo, and 2nd GOAT is f0rest
Na'vi ofc. We can say that they won grand slam of cs 1.6. And before na'vi era is Fnatic probably
Pentagram/MYM,NoA,SK,Fnatic era best era
goats: f0rest, GeT_RiGhT, neo
best era: Na'Vi
sickest play: Edward vs fnatic pistol ace on tuscan
ask the esports historion thoooorin
that reminds me that i used to download walle's cfg every time after fresh install of cs thinking my shots are gonna be more accurate
Biggest rivalry at the end of cs 1.6 has to be NAvi vs polish squad (polish VP basically)
Also NEO was goat of 1.6 if anyone says otherwise (except forest who was pretty close) they are biased.
Also simple isnt goat
Greatest team was probably the golden 5.
Goat NEO easiliy, forest close second though.
My personal favourite players were colon and delpan
best team i would say Na'Vi, they had edward,zeus,markeloff,ceh9 and starix.
The s1mple of 1.6 maybe NEO or f0rest and rivalries i have no clue
guys focus on present and future not the past
if your favourite team was good in the past but not playing actively or not with the same org/roster then that is the past.
astralis results are not the past as all 5 players still playing (from next event) for the same org just an actual looking in past/present for a good argument
sk/luminosity/mibr are very differetnt for one 2 of these orgs in csgo do not exists the third don't more than 1 of those legendary rosters
so focus what is on and what is next rather than crying about the past
Thoorin has a lot of Videos on 1.6 on his Channel, including Interviews with Pros and such.
Navi 2010 were like Astralis and markeloff was like S1mple.
1.Pentagram/MYM/VP polish line up, these guys weren't the best individually but boy they knew when to step up and grind their way to victory and watching NEO (IMO the best 1.6 player) was an absolute joy to watch.
2.fnatic were the most talented group and very very good.
Just like CS:GO NaVi was the best team in CS 1.6 as well.
4teams come to my mind as best ever in 1.6
f0rest, get_right,delpan, robban, face
f0rest, get_right, carn, dsn, gux
As great players f0rest and NEO are obviously the best 2 in cs 1.6 history but players like get_right, markeloff, zonic or Sunde deserve honorable mentions.
idk who s1mple would be, but zywoo = 2009 get right
NaVi bestest 1.6 team
if they were formed before 2009/10 they would win more than 4 majors for sure.
Best Teams: SK, fnatic, mtw
Best Players: Neo, f0rest
In the 1.6 days swedish cs was best no doubt.
but you cant put it up against cs-go of today.
if you take the best team from that time with the players as they where back then. every top 30 team today would be able to beat them.
Cs have gown and changes so much, so much more teamwork and set ups. everything has become much better.
Back then most of the teams where also "none pro" just people playing together for "fun", the swedish teams changes that. but it also meant that they didnt really have much competition to begin with, so the stats and things, however impressive it was, and its still some of the most important to happen to cs. however it has more to do with that the other teams where just beginning to form at "pro"
So what Astralis did with their 1-2 year run, was far more impressive because the other teams put up more of a fight, and the whole scene has improved much more to make it less possible to do what they did.
So overall. any team if you take the players as they where back in 1.6 would lose to any top 30 team of today.
and the whole scene was just different the way the game was played was different so cant compare what was done back then to things being done now that is or should be close to impossible.
this dont take anything away from what was done back in 1.6. it was not only impressive at the time. it was also super important for cs, and cs would not be where it is if not for those things.
they chagned the way the game was played, the same way astralis did in a big way two years ago and done with minor things since..
But yea. there is nothing to compare with teams of the time against teams now a days.
its like taken a football team from the 1930 against a pro team of today they would be destroyed.
The best team overall were the Golden 5 from Poland: Neo, TaZ, Kuben, Loord and one more (Pasha joined later) but they weren't consistently good.
Navi 2010 were like Astralis 2018/2019 had an insane year
Neo was the best player by far, markeloff was like Simple with the awp
S1mple at 1.6 was probably someone like Sunde and best player in cs 1.6 was Neo and Spawn
Shaguar was like zywoo now
The best team would have been NaVi, they really dominated that scene, and Markeloff was the best awper according to a top 5 video on awpers from 1.6
When it comes to players in general, neo or f0rest. I personally prefer neo.
For awper I'd say markeloff for sure. Na`Vi was completely dominant in 2010 and he was a big part of his team winning everything. If 1.6 had lasted a few more years, nobody would even doubt him as top1 awper.
Biggest rivalry was the Swedish derby SK-fnatic.
Dominants teams were Na`Vi, Golden 5, fnatic 2009, fnatic 2012, mTw 2008, early SK but they had many legendary rosters across the years.
1) Depends on time period. I'd say SK/NiP vs 2nd best swedish team (2001-2004) - at that time most of the top CS was played in Sweden. Then 2005-2006 there were a lot of good teams, but I'd say fnatic were the best out of them. 2007-2009 Poles (Team Pentagram/MYM/Frag Executors/Again) vs fnatic, and finally 2010-2011 famously NaVi vs fnatic. Out of these teams SK were pretty much unstoppable in 2002-2004 and the Poles have won all the major events in their prime even though they didnt win everything.
2) 2001-2006 the scene was stacked thanks to swedish CS. Later on there were a lot of good teams from all over the place, kinda like today but since there were less well funded orgs the number of those teams could be higher.
3) SpawN was huge, elemeNt before him, but I guess very few people remember. NEO was good, but I wouldnt attribute it all to mechanics. Then we have f0rest and GeT_RiGhT: f0rest is just a goat of CS1.6 and GeT_RiGhT was a player very similar to NEO - nothing mindblowing in mechanics but excelling everywhere else.
4) There were actually very few teams who played tactical CS like Astralis do now. Out of consistently good teams I can only point out fnatic back when they had THREAT (current NiP coach) and mTw (with zonic, even though he wasnt an IGL).
Easily SK or Fnatic
But EG was also really solid too
If you came here in 2008-2011. and asked who the goat is, you'd be spammed with fox.
Portuguese were in 1.6 what Brazilians are in csgo. Except, you know, Brazilian players actually accomplished something in csgo.
can u tell me every player who won a major in cs 1.6
SK with spawn
Fnatic with f0rest
Polish team with neo
Danish team with zonic
Was very year to year kind of a thing in my opinion.
2005-2006 NiP (with Zet, walle, robban...) was really good. Fnatic started getting noticed in 2006 though.
2007- Fnatic with forest,carn, dsn, archi and ins. Mym/Golden 5 with Neo, Taz, Luq, Kuben and Loord
2008- MTW were too damn good with Zonic, sunde, ave, mje and whimp. They were one of the most tactical teams in 1.6 in my opinion (similar to Astralis) and Sunde was insanely skilled. Mym/Golden 5 with Neo, Taz, Luq, Kuben and Loord
2009- Fnatic's year when they kicked Archi and Ins for Get right and Gux winning multiple events like Kode5, IEM global finals and another 3-4 that I can't recall. Though they lost 2 big events to Neo's team (WCG and one more that I can't remember).
2010- Navi's legendary lineup with Markeloff , Edward, zeus, starix and ceh9.
Post this I stopped following CS regularly.
But during all this time, I feel the most consistent team was Neo's team. Golden 5, Mym or whatever name they went by. They normally didn't win the most trophies in a particular year but they had this tendency of showing up to the big events and winning them. While they lost to fnatic and MTW in some of the smaller events, they beat them during the big events from 2006-2008. I'm a forest fanboy but I have to admit that I feel Neo was the best 1.6 player with forest in 2nd place.