Try again next decade, build schools for the future CS pros, whatever.
What is dying is his hairline and testosterone levels lol, CS is alot better than the BR games he plays
BTW R6 is dying cuz its a shit game, being a pro at a shit game must be frustrating
Moonmeander also talked about how Dota is dying in NA.
he only plays br and valorant, ofc he will say cs is dying lol
people overhype him so much but he never did anything relevant besides some highlights on reddit.
why is shroud? what has he achieved ? who?
reddit king has spoken, it would matter a few years before but now it doesn't, let him play his stupid br games or valorant and ignore him talking about things which he has no idea about anymore
for NA yes. For eu and asia no.
he's said this every week since retiring
Because na are spoiled. They play for a paycheck rather than for the love of the game. These pussies have no idea what pros had to sacrifice in the past. Disgusting spoiled trash!
Wait til Valorant NA compete with other region then realized that they're also bad at the game just like CSGO and LoL. Majority of NA players have inflated ego that hinder their teamwork. That's why C9 major win considered as miracle because the rare occasion where player putting aside their ego because the support of home supporters.
Didn't know he could have a beard. it's looking like he painted his face :d
Why is everyone is sensitive, he clearly said CS in NA is dying which it is, NA has always been shit in eSPorts when times get a little harder they depart like rats.
shroud is the perfect example of someone who has everything in their hand, good pc, time, fame, money, etc... everything super easy, but lack passion, has no personality, the face of the player that made NA being the NA meme
stupid nerd kids that donate and watch twitch for 50000 hours love shroud but are the first to criticize stewie for example, a guy who came from nothing, faced every challenge he had to face, always with courage, discipline etc
fuck all the no personality players, shroud is a GaMeR not a cs player, cs is fucking cs dude, cs players are not the usual gamers, they are cs players.
cs will never die, we heard this 999999999999999x times, if cs didnt die after 1.6, it will never die, doesnt matter what happens, the kids can go valorant or whatever stupid game of the moment, but cs will be alive, even being underground.
#CSLIFE #fuckvalorant #fuckshroud #stewie_1_major_s1mple_0_major #thecryisfree #skadaddy #tarik_1_major_chokeclan_0_major #RUNREALNACS
shroud in cs was overrated af
He's right but who actually cares if there isn't a NA scene anymore ? I mean beside the impact on the EU/CIS scene I don't care that much
We just need the brazilians back to have fun with them but NA I litteraly don't give a fck if their scene is dying
How many times has he said that it's dying?
well hes biased and he hasnt been in touch with the scene in a while lol
Why the fuck do I give a fuck about a cs pro that hardly follows the scene Telling me that the scene that I extensively follow and that the people that I follow, extensively follow is dead. Have some fucking sense
Imagine making a name for youself with one of the most popular games online, quitting the game for money and then saying the game is dying every year out of your ass for no reason whatsoever, what a despiteful little fella lmao
CS is thrash nowadays. Vertigo sucks, Valve servers sucks, the matches sucks, miss cache, miss great championships, lack of motivation in many players, frequent disbanded teams etc.
Oh lord... I can be the whole day listing it.
USA -> no doping -> no victories
NA League of Legends was a huge disappointment this year at World's. The problem with NA LCS is that if you're a young talent who wants to go pro, the only way you can achieve that is through joining a LCS Academy team. This makes the opportunity to go pro so limited in NA whereas regions like China or Europe have strong support for their tier 2 leagues. EU masters even has a qualifier for it making it really competitive.
Why is shroud and his opinion relevant?
Honestly the basic "Get in the game and play" experience atm is awful.
At least down in SA there's not a single game where there are not smurfs or hackers. The queues take too long. There's no way you play in maps like Vertigo or Nuke. Deathmatch is literally unplayable, 95% of the games are bots only or with like 1 or 2 people, sometimes you find the one game with people but outside of dust 2 is impossible. The community server side is also dying hard af, the only servers being brazilians and like "AWP ONLY" or "1 V 1 ARENA".
The gamersclub experience is different. Queues are rather short no matter the skill level and there's always a bunch of people to play with. But the ORIGINAL game in it of itself is so bad that it's not even worth queueing for half of the shit it's got.
Compare this to 2015-16-17 where there was a boom in players and a constant growth, the game today is just a shadow of it's former self. Personally I think most of the issues are with the SA community and how games like League of Legends and Valorant are taking over.
Idk how that works for Brazil only but for the whole of us it's kinda meh.
All in my experience.
" Compare this to 2015-16-17 where there was a boom in players and a constant growth "
Didnt the game break 1 mil players not long ago? Yes, its thanks to f2p but still. Also theres steady 800-900k players every day
he is a mumbling old man . He decided to end his career , to get achievements in streams . But he was just thrown out , because he is not good anymore . Why would you take shroud , when you can have Jks , Obo , jkaem ? He wants to be good , but CS evolved faster than him
NA csgo pros lack motivation because unless you're an established pro there's almost no chance to get an org for your team.
If teams like Swole Patrol are making it into the top 30 and not getting payed, it makes people a lot less motivated, and a lot more likely to switch to a new game where they can actually make money.
He has been saying that csgo is dying from the past 2 years lmao
The valorant scene is only alive because of corona, if it was international tournaments NA would die in valorant too, EU too strong bro
Grandpa shroud is out of touch and doesn't know shit about the esports scene, just lives in his own little bubble with his boring ass stream
Without PUBG, shroud is probably streaming CS right now and probably playing with mythic.
imagine giving some dude who does jack shit except turn on his camera and play valorant attention
He is right but this has been obvious for long time so zzzzzzz
its not dying, its more even
I,m lack motivated to play Valorant cuz cartoony game
If Denmark dominates in Valorant and valorant in NA is dying?
expected from BOT he will regret those words 👩🏼🔪🔪
so many butthurt kids here XD
He is just jumping from game to game. Apex dead, pubg dead, valorant ....
NA CS, yes. He is just wishful thinking.
no one will miss NA CS anyway LOL
As we all see CS competetive scene these days has been a game of who makes less mistakes and punish others for those is a winner
So let's say what was the reason of having coaches? I mean what is the reason of having them? It's not like they search for some data, make anti-strats or even legit make their own defaults be sharp and on point? Even if they do so, why we can't see any result of it, due players stupidity I guess? They can't even force their players to actually play a match, even important ones, seriously? Constant over-peeking, fundamental mistakes, guys literally chill these days not giving a fuck about their performance - people are crazily lazy.
Why do you even play the tournament if the only reason to play is you being forced by your org? Why org keeps forcing players to play if they look exhausted and unenthusiastic?
This shit legit looks boring. Take a look on matches of 2013-2015? People were literally crying, yelling, breaking their keyboards and mouses during the match - this is the passion I'm used to see. What do we have now? Players just sit literally "FULL CHILL", some of them like 'gratata' miss 10 shots in a row and all they do is a grin. You can call it a boomers stuff, but you can perfectly see how players give 0 fucks about the game - keep doing same mistakes for years already.
stopped reading at "shroud"
They lack motivation cuz they trash hehe
CS is fine.
Some americans are just beginning to see that NA e sport, or NA cs is not a strong scene..
However there is nothing new about that, only new in it is that americans is just begining to accept it.
Its been pretty much the same for years.
its only in the close hive of america where the it seems like a change and such.
How much did Riot pay him to say this? Do you think it's more than when Apex legends was going to be the best game ever?
michael twofaced gezeziek
Shroud is so far disconnected with the cs scene at this point there's honestly zero point in listening him talk about cs anymore. "Valorant will take the number on competitive FPS spot" are you like dumb or are you dumb mate
CS is totally fine in a global scale.
NA/USA are just not really that much into e-sports....
They are much more focused on actual sports...
Just look at Olympics. USA is insanely dominant.
Summer + winter Olympics gold medal counts:
Soviet Union: 473 (second highest ranked and have less than half USA medals)
It's just a culture thing.. This also not even taking into account sports that are mostly a USA only thing... like American Handegg and Baseball to a smaller extent...
yeah ik, NA CS is dying because all the decent players left for Valorat, and plus, all the good valorant orgs are in NA. SO you could say the Valorant EU is dying because EU CS is better. And he's only speaking from an esport stand point. I have many normie friends that don't play cs and all of them have played valorant, but never played it after that one time. Compared to CS where people play it for longer
NA CS pros had no motivation or work ethic for the most part
best outlined by the Stew tweet about 10AM matches
no sense.. this was a great year for CSGO. Just take a look at the numbers of viwers, players on steam, faceit, GC. EG x mibr reached half million viewers. furia x mibr reached great numbers as well. maybe na cs is not in his prime moment but take a look at TOP 5 teams in the world, 2 of them are from NA.
And what about Furia.. they changed the way pro teams play. Just see arT playing, the most aggressive player of all csgo history. csgo is more alive than it was at the last 2 years.
Overrated washed up player. Nobody cares what he thinks.
just because the NA scene is trash. cry more burger shhhraaud.
i remember about him saying that Mixer is the future for streaming ahaha
so i trusth him 100% :D
Why does it matter? Its his opinon. I would say NA is trash. But is it? MAYBE but its my opinon. Let him say whatever he wants. You do what you want. If you enjoy cs go play CS, if you enjoy VALORANT go play it. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. WHO CARS? VROOM VROOM
Hasn't Shroud been saying this for the last 5 years?
He is speaking out his ass for attention and you all took the bait
Shroud was "good" at cs at some point but since he is struggling and started a streaming career now trying to achieve something in valorant so ofc he will talk shit about cs but I'm sure if he could decide if he wants to be the best player in cs or valorant he would choose cs but that's not the case. Many mid-tier cs players moved to valorant because they couldn't achieve anything but they were decent players so they have advantage in Valorant before the 2nd valorant generation pros comes in.
It was like with csgo after 1.6 the pros that were the best in 1.6 won everything in the early years then came the next gen.
Is it just me or is like 90% of this shit shroud says against popular opinion.
for me shroud only shine in pubg as a streamer. In Cs Go was overrated. I think many people expected from him more in CS GO.
I don't know if CS GO dying, but the game got boring
262 comments on something a former pro said about current game
probably not dead
cs is kinda hard to watch in na right now. normally its fun watching na vs eu but that isnt a thing anymore. its only really fun watching chaos for me.
I love how united our community is. LOL. Who cares about a "reddit" player opinion. Ffs!
imagine believing in a retired old man
i dont give a fuck who is that shoud
only 14 years old like him
didn't he say the same thing years ago after he quit cs?
Smart NA player making way more money than competitive CS. Still a young guy too. Makes you wonder how old people are calling a 26-year-old an old man. I see so many people bashing him, but his stats aren't the worst. Hard to please.
shroud has always been overrated by NA as a player and he has been a superf unfunny toxic streamer since he retired :)
lol shroud still relevant? really? who gives a fuck? he better go entertain some kids, CS is more than 20 years old and still has loyal fans...
WHY DOES THIS DAMN THREAD KEEP COMING BACK
isnt the first time hes saying cs is dying
Shroud is dying- CS.
Some american twat telling which game is dying or not lol. Gtfo kiddo, go beggin for likes somewhere else.
He is saying that for like 3 years lol
350 comments about how "nobody cares" and "he is irrelevant" hmm interesting logic on HLTV as always.
shroud literally doesn't even know what is going on in csgo anymore, he doesn't pay attention, he said not long ago that 'c9 is gonna pull out' when they were literally in the middle of spending millions of players like alex for their new roster. shroud is a dunce, no reason to listen to him.
I mean to be fair he isnt wrong. Most of the players in Na has moved games, most NA cs teams has pulled out. Other NA esports teams that play league barely make it out of groups, the ow scene is pretty much dead, the Siege scene isn’t as big and the numbers are slowly decreasing with the increase in valorant hype so he isnt wrong. Cs is a dying game but is kept alive in EU. Same thing with Asia, Asian cs pretty much died ages ago when SEA countries swapped to mobile esports since its more affordable for people and the higher end ex fps players would swap to valo. Cs is clearly dying and i feel like theres nothing we can do about it
so many haters... still uppink docshit thread.l...