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Cs is dying - shroud
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Europe Biggest_Bigg_Fan 
As he is speaking for NA, almost all esports except valorant and r6 are dying in NA cuz they just dont have good players in LOL and in CS they lack motivation
2020-10-20 04:10
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Russia VelsVivard
Try again next decade, build schools for the future CS pros, whatever.
2020-10-20 04:11
24 replies
#175
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Canada YankeeM
Shroud is the most beta-human I have seen. Always crying, was never good at cs. A pugger, that's all.
2020-10-20 15:40
21 replies
#184
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Other Entry_
FINALLY! someone who agrees that shroud was just a "reddit clip" player, and never had the skills to compete in csgo tier 1 teams
2020-10-20 16:15
5 replies
#266
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Czech Republic poledne
...+1 he is just youtuber/streamer ... not good for tier 1
2020-10-20 22:39
4 replies
he was like beta ScreaM
2020-10-30 20:28
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#329
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Czech Republic poledne
what? how? :D he wasn´t like that in any way
2020-10-30 20:51
2 replies
aimer who people overrate, Scream is the same just better
2020-10-30 21:04
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#336
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Czech Republic poledne
not true, he is desence but not even close to levl you are talking about.
2020-10-30 21:10
Hahahaha, did people really think Shroud was good? NA logic.
2020-10-20 16:39
6 replies
well some retards call him the best csgo player, best aimer , if he had the motivation to keep palying csgo he wold still be top 1, delusional fans lmao, those braindead people even compare him to s1mple while their only clips were mm or na faceit clips lol
2020-10-20 16:42
4 replies
he still has insane aim
2020-10-20 20:37
3 replies
I saw a clip of him saying that his own skill ceiling isn't particularly high in most games but he learns really fast. Hence why he is always doing decently whenever a new game comes out.
2020-10-20 21:10
2 replies
hes just a guy thats adapts very fast to any fps. hes actually good in the majority of them but definitly not GOAT
2020-10-20 21:32
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#267
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Czech Republic poledne
you can be that good too if oyu play fps 6/8 hours a day 40/50 hours a weak .... ofc he will be desent ,... in that much time
2020-10-20 22:40
na brain
2020-10-20 18:42
Your logic fails
2020-10-20 16:44
#291
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Europe Cirros_V2
but no matter what u r saying he is a smat guy and knows what is up.
2020-10-20 23:19
5 replies
#330
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Czech Republic poledne
? so he left moset strategi fps to play moba that is based on luck .. yeah he is rally smart mate :D :D :D
2020-10-30 20:53
4 replies
#331
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Europe Cirros_V2
well who is making more now? C9 players and other or him? He is smart...
2020-10-30 20:57
3 replies
#335
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Czech Republic poledne
we are talking about games not money, ofc stramers make more -_- everyone knows that, but you can play pro games + stream -_-
2020-10-30 21:10
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except he got paid 20mil to switch platforms and play that game and anyone playing csgo is making nothing near that....so again like the other guy said, shroud is smart, stop being mad.
2020-11-01 06:21
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#381
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Czech Republic poledne
he is smart outsite of game stupid in game that is what we are saying ... his ingame logick is bad
2020-11-01 15:16
So true indeed. Shroud is a clown.
2020-10-31 07:03
#295
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Lithuania SiTyGas
They are talking about NA and I think more schools is the last thing they should build, especially of a first person shooting game which is CS.
2020-10-20 23:28
why don't they invent their own game which only they play so they can be good at it... like "american football" maybe call it "american counterstrike"
2020-10-30 21:36
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Brazil IsFree
What is dying is his hairline and testosterone levels lol, CS is alot better than the BR games he plays
2020-10-20 04:11
41 replies
+1
2020-10-20 04:20
ikr, his favourite game (dungeons and dragons) will surely kill cs!
2020-10-20 04:31
xaxaxa +1
2020-10-20 04:49
+1111
2020-10-20 05:12
+1 mfk sounds like hes 50
2020-10-20 05:30
2 replies
#163
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Poland n1ello
and looks with this beard xD
2020-10-20 14:19
1 reply
Pedo mustache idd!!
2020-10-20 16:17
#67
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Ecuador LONE_8122
+1
2020-10-20 06:14
+1111
2020-10-20 06:48
+1
2020-10-20 06:52
+1
2020-10-20 07:36
+1
2020-10-20 07:43
+1
2020-10-20 08:31
+111
2020-10-20 09:20
+1 onliner shroud rekt 🤣🤣😂
2020-10-20 09:29
+1
2020-10-20 09:53
Money greedy shroud saying CS is dying . The game which gave him the fame and money the start in his life Later he said the same thing about pubg . His mouth is only loyal to money ( whichever game is providing it he will talk good about that and all other games are bad in his opinion (which doesn't matter)
2020-10-20 14:04
12 replies
+1, disgusting
2020-10-20 14:43
#182
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Europe Vallon4
+1111111111111111111 fucking little roach
2020-10-20 15:58
+1 Ppl should unfollow/boycot twofaced retrd shrd
2020-10-20 16:18
+1 totally agree
2020-10-20 16:38
So true. Shroud is a clown
2020-10-20 16:45
#256
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CIS sergioff
+1
2020-10-20 22:18
#285
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Slovakia Daev0n
+1 hypocrite
2020-10-20 23:10
+1
2020-10-30 20:36
+1 so true
2020-10-30 21:03
agree
2020-10-30 21:13
+1 Edit: Have a good day!
2020-10-31 00:37
+1
2020-10-31 03:28
+1
2020-10-20 14:06
+1
2020-10-20 14:07
+1 kekw
2020-10-20 15:38
+1
2020-10-20 16:29
#191
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Bulgaria gosholin
+1
2020-10-20 16:30
#230
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Czech Republic manik999
+1 hahaha
2020-10-20 19:29
+1000
2020-10-20 22:20
#284
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Slovakia Daev0n
+1
2020-10-20 23:09
#292
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Europe Cirros_V2
why u r so rough on him? He never said he wants cs to die, he just thinks that its happening
2020-10-20 23:21
LMAO fuck this clown, CSGO is strong and going 8 years after release, it has at least more 5 to come and then Volvo should release a new CS
2020-10-21 00:17
+1
2020-10-21 01:14
+1
2020-10-31 03:27
👌 k
2020-10-20 04:12
4 replies
Its really sad for your lol scene bjergsen carrying for 6 years and he cant go thru groups on worlds
2020-10-20 04:14
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#78
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China SwooksarV2
The way to the airport is full of traffic. Why go far when you can go home? TSM 0-6 lol
2020-10-20 06:47
2 replies
KEKW
2020-10-20 07:35
#TSMSWIM
2020-10-20 08:09
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Brazil IsFree
BTW R6 is dying cuz its a shit game, being a pro at a shit game must be frustrating
2020-10-20 04:12
4 replies
Thats right dunno why I wasted time on it
2020-10-20 04:14
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#9
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Brazil IsFree
Neither do I, and I prolly wasted alot more hours into it lmao
2020-10-20 04:16
Tbh I have no idea if any of the siege pros enjoy the game at all. I would want to kill myself if my job was to clear utility for like 2 minutes just to push the site in last 20 seconds and hope that I dont get killed by c4 from below or fucked by some crazy angle.
2020-10-20 08:49
#147
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Poland Hanse
Main problem with Siege is fact that it tries so fuckin hard to be relevant esport, simultaneously killing all fun and promoting playing like cunt (bullethole peeking, runouts etc.). Icing on the cake is sole fact that they failed to be esport as well since it's extremly hard to follow action as observer and playerbase is split between platforms. Having fun in this game in 2020 is just impossible task. Don't even get me started on bugs, exploits, dumbfuck map projects - I could count all day long.
2020-10-20 09:56
washed up shroud
2020-10-20 04:13
Moonmeander also talked about how Dota is dying in NA.
2020-10-20 04:24
he only plays br and valorant, ofc he will say cs is dying lol people overhype him so much but he never did anything relevant besides some highlights on reddit.
2020-10-20 04:30
9 replies
+1 he wasnt even the 3rd best player on c9 at that time and people hype him up as a god of the game
2020-10-20 06:57
7 replies
#189
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North America 007DBR9
*people that don't know much about cs he's to cs what ninja is to fortnite
2020-10-20 16:27
6 replies
even that has been taken from him by s1mple
2020-10-20 17:06
#219
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Brazil _Awper
What?
2020-10-20 18:31
4 replies
#233
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North America 007DBR9
das wat im sayin
2020-10-20 20:36
3 replies
#297
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Brazil _Awper
Shroud is nothing to CS LOL
2020-10-20 23:58
2 replies
#299
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North America 007DBR9
exactly, he has no meaning, but people think he's good at it
2020-10-21 00:21
1 reply
#300
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Brazil _Awper
Oh sure! Idk shit about Ninja, so i thought you were saying Shroud was relevant to CS
2020-10-21 01:06
To be fair to him, from the video it sounds like by cs, he means high-tier competitive CS in NA. Complete and utter shit articulation, though. If you're going to post a video on YouTube explaining some phenomenon at least talk about it with the correct name :D
2020-10-20 07:38
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Vietnam chad47
why is shroud? what has he achieved ? who?
2020-10-20 04:34
2 replies
#98
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Panama FUN4ENCE
why is shroud? Now that is a deep question
2020-10-20 07:30
1 reply
xD
2020-10-20 07:39
reddit king has spoken, it would matter a few years before but now it doesn't, let him play his stupid br games or valorant and ignore him talking about things which he has no idea about anymore
2020-10-20 04:36
for NA yes. For eu and asia no.
2020-10-20 04:40
6 replies
#50
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United States Phamous3k
Asia? Asia pretty much abandoned CSGO. Got a few decent Chinese squads I suppose. And Tigers look cool as well. But, lot of Asia moved to Riots game. EU & Brazil is where CSGO shines the most imo.
2020-10-20 05:27
2 replies
+1 that's the fact Chinese, Mongolians and few other asians are still playing cs and all the others move to valorant cause no one pays to cs team
2020-10-20 05:58
1 reply
#69
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United States Phamous3k
And seeing that Tencent is a Chinese company I can make an easy prediction of Val being HUGGEEE in China and possibly steal some CS players.. Cause yeh, Val is not even released in China yet. But even with that being said just look at the orgs and players involved: liquipedia.net/valorant/ThundeRobot/Invi.. ^^ And that's just one tournament thats going on now lol. A moba styled fps should be well in the east. I think Valve is going to be forced to try and step in someday soon though. Or hire an outside company to manage there esport scene and try to revitalize NA, Asia, etc. imo... CSGO esports is just too good of a product.
2020-10-20 06:20
#160
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United States PP_Bizon
asian cs has been dying even harder than NA cs though
2020-10-20 14:15
2 replies
actually from my experience, the game has become more and more popular in asia from last year.(a lot of my friends started to play it). Also if you play low level faceit pug in NA you can see there are a lot of chinese dudes playing it. That's why I don't count asia cs is dead.(it's getting better). But yeah if you talk about Pro level or high level, NA still better than Asia.
2020-10-20 16:17
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#204
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United States PP_Bizon
yeah I'm mainly focusing on the pro/high level, otherwise asian cs is doing pretty well imo
2020-10-20 16:41
he's said this every week since retiring
2020-10-20 04:40
2 replies
+1 what a clown
2020-10-20 05:07
+1
2020-10-20 05:40
Because na are spoiled. They play for a paycheck rather than for the love of the game. These pussies have no idea what pros had to sacrifice in the past. Disgusting spoiled trash!
2020-10-20 04:49
9 replies
calm down irrelevant norway
2020-10-20 04:53
6 replies
Bro it’s true
2020-10-20 04:58
hes not wrong tho its all about the paycheck for NA pros
2020-10-20 06:58
1 reply
thanks for the insight into all na players brain
2020-10-20 09:19
us, welcome to the no-sceners club 😎👍
2020-10-20 09:17
2 replies
thanks, i actually dont give a fuck about CSGO or NA scene anymore tho since 2016 so its fine 😎👍
2020-10-20 13:58
#192
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North America 007DBR9
thanks bro I support swedish cs now 😎👍
2020-10-20 16:30
+1 Edit: Have a good day!
2020-10-20 05:16
nah NA players are too bad to be relevant in cs so they switch to valotrash
2020-10-20 18:40
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Indonesia draizze
Wait til Valorant NA compete with other region then realized that they're also bad at the game just like CSGO and LoL. Majority of NA players have inflated ego that hinder their teamwork. That's why C9 major win considered as miracle because the rare occasion where player putting aside their ego because the support of home supporters.
2020-10-20 04:54
2 replies
+1, and when there will be LAN tournaments for CS like the old days it will skyrocket again imo.
2020-10-20 05:36
1 reply
it's so funny to me how these washed up t2/t3 ex na cs:go pros are now competing in valorant cause they were just pure shit xD
2020-10-20 14:16
Didn't know he could have a beard. it's looking like he painted his face :d
2020-10-20 04:58
1 reply
#128
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Namibia doggc
Probably using hair regrowth product and the beard is just a side effect.
2020-10-20 08:49
Why is everyone is sensitive, he clearly said CS in NA is dying which it is, NA has always been shit in eSPorts when times get a little harder they depart like rats.
2020-10-20 05:01
52 replies
#51
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United States Phamous3k
I mean... NA dominated pretty hard in Siege & Overwatch. And of course we love our CoD. NA has its moments lol.
2020-10-20 05:29
51 replies
Na didnt dominate in overwatch? Korea did
2020-10-20 06:34
45 replies
#75
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United States Phamous3k
Talking recently.. San Francisco Shock has 2 championships (back to back) and of course USA won the recent World Cup @ BlizzCon. But yes, many Korean imports all throughout the NA scene. liquipedia.net/overwatch/San_Francisco_S.. World Cup --> liquipedia.net/overwatch/Overwatch_World..
2020-10-20 06:40
44 replies
Do you know who are the players of shock? There are only 2 na players in that team rest are korean and about the world cup this is the first time someone else than korea won the world cup xd so im still trying to figure out where you think na is dominating
2020-10-20 07:05
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#88
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United States Phamous3k
USA is literally a nation of immigrants lol. We don’t care... Shock won. Twice. Back to back. And USA won the World Cup. Also, I acknowledged that there are many Korean imports. I literally said: “ But yes, many Korean imports all throughout the NA scene. ” ^^ Shock is an NA org, representing USA with a couple USA players. Looks dominating to me. You can call it what you want though.
2020-10-20 07:11
42 replies
So? liquid is a Dutch org, so if liquid wins a big event its a win for the Netherlands?
2020-10-20 08:30
41 replies
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United States Phamous3k
If that’s how you view it lol. Cause for us if you’re representing the USA we don’t give a shit. Look at any esport scene we’ll import and bring in whoever. Best of the best is all we strive for. We a nation of other nations lol. The Native American population sadly is maybe 2%. So, it’s whatever. You represent for us and we good to go.
2020-10-20 08:41
40 replies
classic stupid american. to think that usa is dominating overwatch just because the best team, consisting of mostly koreans (as pretty much the entire scene is), is owned by americans is just plain stupid.
2020-10-20 14:35
39 replies
tHeY CoMe tO uSA ThEyRe mURiCaNs
2020-10-20 15:08
#183
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United States Phamous3k
An expected dumbass reply from a Swedish moron. We’re a nation of immigrants lol. Hence, we don’t care cause none of us are natives here. Ever leave ur little shit country before... Might want to look around.
2020-10-20 16:13
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#194
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North America 007DBR9
ngl you're a little braindead
2020-10-20 16:33
2 replies
#206
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United States Phamous3k
Please, explain. We are not natives. At all. Everybody has ancestral background outside of here. Either that or have direct family from other nations. Hence, you see a lot of our esport teams mixed and we claim as ours. Even in regular sports we do this. Basketball, baseball, shit hockey if you can play well. Are you trolling or do you not understand the history here and how it’ evolved our culture. Cause it just sounds like you’re choosing to be a dumbass. We play with the best lol. Unless we develop all the best talent (NFL) we’ll bring the best. Lol, we even got David Beckham at one time. We don’t care.
2020-10-20 16:47
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Thats not how it works, those players were not born in the us didnt grow up there and are only living there cause its their job they literally have nothing incommon with any of the americans
2020-10-20 22:57
temporarily living in usa is not the same as being american. i do agree that you do not have to be born in the country to be considered of that nationality. but do you think the koreans in overwatch league considers themselves americans? i lived in spain for a year, was i spanish for that year? your argument is dumb, straight up. they are koreans who wants to play overwatch at the top level. blizzard created overwatch league as a franchise and based it in the u.s. meaning everyone who wanted to play overwatch at the top level had to move to the u.s. that does not mean that the entire overwatch league consists of americans. yes, clubs from pretty much every big sport is importing players. what is your point? simply moving to a country does not change your nationality. 80% of san francisco shock's players are koreans. or do you think any of those 8 players would represent usa in the world cup? but whatever, you keep thinking that usa dominates overwatch if you want.
2020-10-20 17:40
33 replies
#218
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United States Phamous3k
I honestly feel like hltv is a nation of idiots lol... Who tf cares about temporarily living here or being an actual American? Do you think we care if you're from Korea, Pakistan, the Moon... Ok, I see you might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer so, I'll use a simple example on how we view our sport teams. Luka Doncic plays for the Dallas Mavericks which is a basketball team in Dallas, Texas... The kid is Slovenian as fuck... Born there, lived there most his life, all his family etc... When Luka puts on that Dallas jersey he's a got damn Maverick. You think the people in Texas are like "He doesn't represent us" haha... He's a white dude with a Dallas jersey on. They're cheering him on and will treat him like he's a damn Dallas Maverick. Luka isn't American... Will probably never be an American citizen.. And we simply do... not... care! Are you understanding the difference here. The way the outside world views there players is ALOT different then how we do. So yes, once those Koreans put on that Shock jersey they are representing the San Francisco Shock. Only time nationality takes front and center is during the Olympics or some sort of World Cup. Outside of that nothing matters... We dont care about Sweden's point of view or any country for that matter but, that's what it is... End of story.
2020-10-20 18:29
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i agree, he is a maverick. that does not make him american and he does not represent america. same goes for every other sport in the world. to import players from other countries is not an american thing which you seem to think. yes, they are representing the team san francisco shock. that does not mean that "NA is dominating overwatch". that's just your typical american ego speaking. but whatever floats your boat, just know that no one will agree with your statement that NA is dominating overwatch just because the players are representing american organizations.
2020-10-20 18:36
31 replies
#227
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United States Phamous3k
Omg. I’m not retyping that shit. An NA team is dominating lol. End of story stop being stupid. I thought American education was shit but, Sweden taking the cake.
2020-10-20 18:51
30 replies
you are so stupid it's becoming comedy. just look at the rest of the replies to your stupid ass statement. did you think that england was dominating csgo when fnatic were on top? since fnatic is an english org? do you think that the netherland's were dominating csgo when liquid were the best team? if the overwatch league was based in korea but 80% of the players were from usa and 80% of the best team were from usa, would you say that korea was dominating overwatch? nobody (except you and maybe other inbred americans) cares where the organization is from in esport. you're so uneducated on the rest of the world that you honestly thought that importing players to a team was an american thing hahahaha!
2020-10-20 19:22
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#232
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United States Phamous3k
Only dumbass is your Swedish bitch ass and no I don’t care about hltv point of view. I just explained how America views sports but ur retarded poor ass refuses to understand. I’m not retyping it. You think a CSGO fan site is a good census on Americans view on sports. Lol. Stay a dumbass in Sweden bitch lol Like how dumb is you... Talking about England & fnatic lol. We don’t give a fuck about a European perspective lol. This is how we do sports. NA team is dominating OW period lol. But let’s go back & forth so I can roast ur bitch ass some more. Get mad lol. NA on top of OW
2020-10-20 20:36
28 replies
HAhahahahaha! We all know you Americans are stupid but you're on some special ed level. Are you being bullied in school? Yes, an American-owned team is dominating Overwatch. NA players are still shit at the game though as pretty much every other game :DDDD
2020-10-20 20:56
9 replies
#238
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United States Phamous3k
Lol your bitch ass was sending me private messages... You think I care about a bunch of foreigners pov on how America views sports... Lol get your poor ass back to private messaging me nonsense lol Ive acknowledged we import players... We know this... You're stuck on "Well they're Korean". Dumbass we have Korean Americans, Indian Americans, etc. We are a NATION OF IMMIGRANTS. We literally have world wide representation in our country. But it's basically "They weren't born in America".. Yes bitch... We know. Edited: You actually messaged me again haha
2020-10-20 21:06
8 replies
HAHAHAHAHAH! Do you really think that the Koreans who play in OWL consider themselves "Korean Americans"? At least we can all agree on the fact that NA players are garbage at the game, just as most games :D
2020-10-20 21:08
7 replies
#241
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United States Phamous3k
How are you not understanding this? What education level are you on? AMERICA has a world wide representation. So if we import Koreans well... We have many Korean Americans here that appreciate and will support along with everyone else. You're just trolling and maybe everyone in your country is like 99% one ethnicity & poor dumbasses idk... But what I do know is you're one dumbass kid lol... The evidence is throughout ALLLL our sports. Edited: For you very slow people like this dude... We understand... NA team with imported players = NA players trash. We do not care about such things... We build the BEST team to represent us and that's it. Nothing more to it.
2020-10-20 21:18
6 replies
Hahahahahahah oh WOW! The Land Of The Great has people from all over the world! You are so special! You are the only country that has immigrants! How does it feel? Have you ever left your country? Do you know anything about the rest of the world? Heard of football? Not your shit version, I'm talking about the biggest sport in the world. The teams work the same way as your country's sports that nobody cares about, they also have players from all around the world. Just as pretty much any big sport. The Koreans in OWL are NOT "Korean Americans". They are Koreans that happens to live in America right now because that is where OWL is situated. They do not have full citizenship, they do not represent America and they do not identify themselves as "Korean Americans". You are so stuck in your american bubble it's ridiculous hahahahaha! P.S. NA players are still trash at the game ;*
2020-10-20 21:21
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#245
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United States Phamous3k
It's like talking to the most retarded kid in school... It's impossible to get through. You're stuck on other countries views, and other immigrants lol. Like, this is USA fuck you guys pov lol. You said: "The Koreans in OWL are NOT "Korean Americans" No SHIT moron... I gave a clear example for someone as stupid as you to understand but... Nope your stupidity surprises me. Can you READ well or is comprehension in your shit country not taught. How Americans view our sports will be different then YOURS. I'm not retyping clear examples again lol Im not teaching you how to NOT be fucking retarded. You don't have to agree with our ideology on sports and thats fine... Stay in your shit hole and believe whatever. Everyone on hltv can feel that way this isn't a real good census on American sports. Lol football... We import players in every sport... And NFL >> Soccer over here.
2020-10-20 21:30
4 replies
HAhahahahahahah! Hey, dumbfuck! Explain this comment you made in another thread: "There's 2 t1 squads in NA and one of them is Liquid lol." Liquid is from the Netherlands. Why the fuck are you taking their credit? Is it beacuse the players are American maybe? HAhahahahahah hypocritical fucking child :D "Lol football... We import players in every sport..." I just brought up an example you semifunctioning special eds child! As I wrote it's the same in every sport in the world, it's not something only American teams do hahahahahahaha! Well this was fun, you've made me laugh a lot and I thank you for that! I am just glad we finally agreed on the fact that NA players are so trash that not even NA orgs wants to sign them :) Peace out!
2020-10-20 21:39
3 replies
#248
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United States Phamous3k
I bet your country flag is a piece of shit inside of a hole hahaha... Dumbass log out and enjoy the smell of shit outside.
2020-10-20 21:48
2 replies
Hahahahahahha! Stop being mad and tell me more about how Liquid is an American team please :)
2020-10-20 22:03
1 reply
#250
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United States Phamous3k
Lol, dont use the mad tactic.. You're ashamed of even showing your shit hole country. Is Team Liquid CSGO team representing us? Are they playing for NA? GenG are they representing NA? But but but genG have a Korean LoL team lol. Yeah, fuck that LoL team lol. How fucking stupid are you... Got damn your country education is trash... Probably have classes inside of a bathroom cause it's shit.
2020-10-20 22:06
Bitch youre the one acting retarded
2020-10-20 22:06
17 replies
#252
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United States Phamous3k
Bitch stfu lol.. I'll be here all night for u fuck boys
2020-10-20 22:07
16 replies
My country has more relevant lol pros than urs and it has 10 times smaller population haHAA
2020-10-20 22:12
All night when its 4pm? Big bs
2020-10-20 22:16
14 replies
#255
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United States Phamous3k
4:17pm to be exact.. Kinda gloomy outside though lol. And you're right we SUCCKKKKKK at LoL... But, we import everyone lol. Like Ive been explaining... TSM is a damn shame tbh not gonna lie... Doublelift and friends fucking went 0-6
2020-10-20 22:18
13 replies
If team doesnt consist of at least 3/5 americans its not american like with g2 in 2016 2 guys were from korea thats why everyone is laughing at you here
2020-10-20 22:23
12 replies
#261
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United States Phamous3k
Who cares what people think here though? It's hltv.. Bunch of europeans and asians and tons of people fake flagging. No one cares about anything that goes on this site lol...Fuck that 3/5 rule. We import, and we try to build great teams... Fuck hltv views lol. I just come here mostly to read nonsense anyways... Dont like my opinion who cares.
2020-10-20 22:32
11 replies
3/5 is not a rule its logic like someone said above if liquid is an org from netherlands then netherlands should take credits for grand slam, why dont they?
2020-10-20 22:38
10 replies
#269
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United States Phamous3k
Cause TL plays for NA in CSGO... They do NA invites, NA pro league, na major slot & they're representing for USA. Same with T1 for Valorant... Korean org, but T1 Val is an NA team no matter whos on it. Could be 5 koreans lol. But hey, if the Netherlands want to rep TL no matter what then it's fine. GenG has a Korean LoL team but NA CSGO/Valorant teams... GenG will be viewed as NA for Val & CS and viewed as Korean for LoL. It's not a very hard concept to understand but, this site is like "Well, there's no naturally born NA players so its not an NA team... 3/5 rule logic". Yeh, we dont give a shit about that.. If you're playing for USA we dont care where you come from. period. Could be a Chinese org with nothing but Korean players... You playing in NA we good to go lol Not hard to understand..
2020-10-20 22:46
9 replies
CSGO gen.g roster consisted of 3 or 4 NA players, Valorant hosts tournaments in NA so still your point is flawed Stop being such a self entitled piece of shit like there are some things to understand you shouldnt be proud of something ure lucky to have
2020-10-20 22:52
8 replies
#280
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United States Phamous3k
The San Francisco Shock is considered an NA team whether your bitch ass agrees to it or not... The team is BASED in NA, and they play for NA... End of story lol. Doesn't matter who's on the team. Not that hard to understand... Lol lucky to have... Ok.
2020-10-20 23:04
7 replies
just wait when valorant starts hosting tournaments elsewhere
2020-10-20 23:05
6 replies
#282
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United States Phamous3k
Will do!
2020-10-20 23:05
#286
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United States Phamous3k
FYI here's C9's LoL team liquipedia.net/leagueoflegends/Cloud9 2 NA players... The 5th will be Fudge an Australian player.... It's a NA team. Same with EG --> liquipedia.net/leagueoflegends/Evil_Geni.. It just what it is... We dont care as long as you represent us
2020-10-20 23:11
4 replies
zven and svenskeren are already settled in NA so they dont really care its not like orgs dont care, same with Bjergsen who owns part of TSM
2020-10-20 23:14
3 replies
#290
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United States Phamous3k
Lol. Doesn’t matter bro these aren’t Americans lol. Just look at the LoL teams. Say whatever excuse you like though this is how America operates. Expect more imports during the off season. liquipedia.net/leagueoflegends/Team_Liqu..
2020-10-20 23:21
2 replies
surely thats how america operates, winning lcs is ez and youve got big salary for being average, nothing but a great deal
2020-10-20 23:24
1 reply
#296
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United States Phamous3k
I agree that we suck at LoL.
2020-10-20 23:29
overwatch competitive/esports scene was doomed to fail from the start. many reasons, but the principal reasons are these two in my opinion: 1) the game is an absolutely fuckfest. it is hard to follow what is going on sometimes even if you're spectating. i'm just thinking from the perspective of a casual player here. i put in a little effort in some season and reached 3600 sr 2 years ago and even then it was already a bunch of stuff going on all the time. so this shit is not fun to watch as a spectator. it has no future in that department. 2) activision-blizzard insisted on controlling every aspect of the esport by creating a league which they effectively controlled. i see this as an artificial attempt at creating an esport scene where there was none. plus because you can't actually qualify for this league-- your organization has to sign a deal with blizzard and pay their way in.. it's kind of fucking dead from the start. no cinderella ence story about the underdog rising up to face the mighty astralis at a major grand final. but yes.. you are right. NA probably dominated in overwatch, but you'd have to look at the way how activision-blizzard built the esport for that scene. they signed so many na teams for their overwatch league. it was mainly an american affair.
2020-10-20 06:30
2 replies
#76
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United States Phamous3k
Lol dude relax... Just saying NA kicked ass in a few esports that's all... I know OW is looking pretty doomed right now.
2020-10-20 06:40
1 reply
eh, i wasn't mad. i don't particularly care about which region is dominating in whatever esport. i'm just saying there's a correlation with the support for a game and how well regions perform because of it.
2020-10-20 16:16
#80
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China SwooksarV2
China forever #2 at Overwatch. Actually so sad.
2020-10-20 06:48
#149
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Poland Hanse
Both Siege and OW are dead esports so he clearly implies that NA FPS scene is dead overall, maybe that's the reason of outrage.
2020-10-20 09:57
shroud is the perfect example of someone who has everything in their hand, good pc, time, fame, money, etc... everything super easy, but lack passion, has no personality, the face of the player that made NA being the NA meme stupid nerd kids that donate and watch twitch for 50000 hours love shroud but are the first to criticize stewie for example, a guy who came from nothing, faced every challenge he had to face, always with courage, discipline etc fuck all the no personality players, shroud is a GaMeR not a cs player, cs is fucking cs dude, cs players are not the usual gamers, they are cs players. cs will never die, we heard this 999999999999999x times, if cs didnt die after 1.6, it will never die, doesnt matter what happens, the kids can go valorant or whatever stupid game of the moment, but cs will be alive, even being underground. #CSLIFE #fuckvalorant #fuckshroud #stewie_1_major_s1mple_0_major #thecryisfree #skadaddy #tarik_1_major_chokeclan_0_major #RUNREALNACS
2020-10-20 05:01
18 replies
+1
2020-10-20 05:16
+1 let’s just remember who this is, a pro who quit in 2017 with moderate talent to go and stream. Put that towards any other pro and nobody cares, but as soon it’s shroud with a bunch of twitch subs people fall over themselves. He hardly follows cs so I’m not going to trust him any better than someone in twitch chat
2020-10-20 05:40
#59
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Malaysia Suno[t]
my boi IARENTTHINKTHAZ throwing shade O_O
2020-10-20 05:42
#68
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Ecuador LONE_8122
yo chill out
2020-10-20 06:18
Stewie didnt come from nothing. His parents were rich Chinese businessmen
2020-10-20 06:36
5 replies
#86
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Brazil Fulmini
+1 LUL
2020-10-20 07:07
Stewie10Am
2020-10-20 07:18
Stewart 2000
2020-10-20 09:22
#167
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United States PP_Bizon
I can kinda see why he said he came from nothing, but it was the wrong word choice really
2020-10-20 14:40
I mean, everyone would suck elige, shroud, etc, and would talk mad shit on stewie, that he was only a pugstar, that he woudnt be anything etc, and he was super strong and faced everything, cool attitude and he got a major in the middle of the run, he is amazing.
2020-10-20 15:46
Holy shit you going too hard
2020-10-20 08:03
the biggest na player that came from nothing is hiko he lived in one of the poorest cities in the u.s (detroit), had student loan debt and risked it all to go pro in cs and he became na's first major finalist, practically made s1mple's career and brought up na's best duo in nitr0 and elige
2020-10-20 08:12
4 replies
+1 Can't have anything in Detroit
2020-10-20 10:27
I had no idea, nice!! hiko was really good back in the day
2020-10-20 15:45
#198
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North America 007DBR9
Hiko is my fav na pro
2020-10-20 16:36
+1 Hiko best NA pro
2020-10-20 16:48
+1! I totally agree except stewie10am! #stewie_1_major_s1mple_0_major #tarik_1_major_chokeclan_0_major #IArentThinkThatz_is_very_good_user
2020-10-20 16:52
1 reply
+1 <3 <3 <3
2020-10-20 17:54
shroud in cs was overrated af
2020-10-20 05:14
18 replies
not if he wasnt a choker, back in the day there was not much skilled players like him, if he didnt choke to pressure he would be the best NA player easy around 2015
2020-10-20 15:47
17 replies
"best NA player" that says enough
2020-10-30 20:27
16 replies
Don't bump old trash posts you stupid fucker
2020-10-30 20:28
15 replies
i will what will you do nub
2020-10-30 20:29
14 replies
i'll call u a stupid fucker, small lips, no muscle, pussy boy
2020-10-30 20:29
13 replies
cry is free
2020-10-30 20:30
12 replies
so is estrogen you little gay boy
2020-10-30 20:30
11 replies
please try again later
2020-10-30 20:31
10 replies
use the appropriate grammar or gtfo cuck
2020-10-30 20:32
9 replies
please try again later
2020-10-30 20:32
8 replies
It's plEaSE trY aGain lATer not please try again later, estrogen boy
2020-10-30 20:33
7 replies
please try again later
2020-10-30 20:33
6 replies
It's plEaSE trY aGain lATer
2020-10-30 20:33
5 replies
please try again later .
2020-10-30 20:34
4 replies
It's plEaSE trY aGain lATer
2020-10-30 20:34
3 replies
please try again later . . . . . .
2020-10-30 20:35
2 replies
It's plEaSE trY aGain lATer
2020-10-30 20:35
It's plEaSE trY aGain lATer````
2020-10-30 20:44
#36
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France Yougz
He's right but who actually cares if there isn't a NA scene anymore ? I mean beside the impact on the EU/CIS scene I don't care that much We just need the brazilians back to have fun with them but NA I litteraly don't give a fck if their scene is dying
2020-10-20 05:20
4 replies
+1 Edit: Have a good day!
2020-10-20 05:19
#63
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Philippines EDBX
Diversity is what makes the scene exciting, the shit talking between EU and NA, all the memes about Brazilians etc. Not caring about the scene shrinking just because it doesn't affect the teams you care about is dumb af.
2020-10-20 05:48
2 replies
+1
2020-10-20 05:55
#108
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United States Phamous3k
Logic?!? Ohhh noooo not on hltv. Delete this immediately
2020-10-20 08:07
How many times has he said that it's dying?
2020-10-20 05:18
1 reply
#164
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Asia loveall
Everytime a new game comes and he is paid to say things.
2020-10-20 14:26
well hes biased and he hasnt been in touch with the scene in a while lol
2020-10-20 05:19
Why the fuck do I give a fuck about a cs pro that hardly follows the scene Telling me that the scene that I extensively follow and that the people that I follow, extensively follow is dead. Have some fucking sense
2020-10-20 05:29
#55
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Germany G3er
Imagine making a name for youself with one of the most popular games online, quitting the game for money and then saying the game is dying every year out of your ass for no reason whatsoever, what a despiteful little fella lmao
2020-10-20 05:38
2 replies
#61
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Philippines EDBX
This is just Shroud's pattern of behavior. Once he is done with a game its like he has a grudge against it, same thing happened with PUBG too even though it turned him into a millionaire. He has no respect for the games or the communities that made him.
2020-10-20 05:45
1 reply
some can't just fade into obscurity graciously they just want to stay relevant by saying obnoxious things to garner attention in a vain attempt. "csgo is dying" --> no, just na csgo dying. it turns out the only thing that kept na cs going was the vibrant european scene. now because of covid19 no one is interested.
2020-10-20 06:11
#58
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United States Phamous3k
If anyone cares to hear what shroud actually said lol. Starts @ 1:15... Relax people. But I will say enjoy as many esports as you can. Very cool scenes out there... youtube.com/watch?v=X6fypOMtExs
2020-10-20 05:41
2 replies
News about some noob streamer says something. Oh my god..
2020-10-20 07:20
#137
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Sweden Svahn
I disagree that Valorant will pop off. If anything people are so fucking hyped for csgo LAN that Valve will pop off. I dislike games being made solely for esports, that to me is the wrong approach for a fun and exciting game. If it didn't happend organically, it won't happend at all. At least for now
2020-10-20 09:22
CS is thrash nowadays. Vertigo sucks, Valve servers sucks, the matches sucks, miss cache, miss great championships, lack of motivation in many players, frequent disbanded teams etc. Oh lord... I can be the whole day listing it.
2020-10-20 05:43
3 replies
But nothing can beat usp "pew pew" 😎👌
2020-10-20 07:21
1 reply
+1
2020-10-20 14:54
#202
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North America 007DBR9
cache is shit
2020-10-20 16:40
USA -> no doping -> no victories
2020-10-20 05:48
NA League of Legends was a huge disappointment this year at World's. The problem with NA LCS is that if you're a young talent who wants to go pro, the only way you can achieve that is through joining a LCS Academy team. This makes the opportunity to go pro so limited in NA whereas regions like China or Europe have strong support for their tier 2 leagues. EU masters even has a qualifier for it making it really competitive.
2020-10-20 06:28
1 reply
#107
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United States Phamous3k
Yeh. +1
2020-10-20 08:04
NA is dying
2020-10-20 06:31
Why is shroud and his opinion relevant?
2020-10-20 06:46
3 replies
Cuz hes one of the most watched people on Twitch and people like to quote "famous" people
2020-10-20 07:22
2 replies
Shroud is a washed up clown.
2020-10-20 16:56
1 reply
I know.
2020-10-20 19:47
shrud or shrode?
2020-10-20 07:08
Honestly the basic "Get in the game and play" experience atm is awful. At least down in SA there's not a single game where there are not smurfs or hackers. The queues take too long. There's no way you play in maps like Vertigo or Nuke. Deathmatch is literally unplayable, 95% of the games are bots only or with like 1 or 2 people, sometimes you find the one game with people but outside of dust 2 is impossible. The community server side is also dying hard af, the only servers being brazilians and like "AWP ONLY" or "1 V 1 ARENA". The gamersclub experience is different. Queues are rather short no matter the skill level and there's always a bunch of people to play with. But the ORIGINAL game in it of itself is so bad that it's not even worth queueing for half of the shit it's got. Compare this to 2015-16-17 where there was a boom in players and a constant growth, the game today is just a shadow of it's former self. Personally I think most of the issues are with the SA community and how games like League of Legends and Valorant are taking over. Idk how that works for Brazil only but for the whole of us it's kinda meh. All in my experience.
2020-10-20 07:22
3 replies
2020-10-20 07:24
1 reply
I'm talking about the experience I have in SA and the base game. Many of the issues that the game has are solved by third-party systems. It still doesn't make the game better and that can also be hostile for new players who do not have other CSGO friends nor care about the game as much as to go into a third-party service. I think CSGO needs to shake things up a little, it's getting really stale.
2020-10-20 07:30
I have a friend in brazil and he says the queue is like 20-30 seconds to a competitive match (mirage only). So we can say that is very different to people outside brazil that play on it’s server
2020-10-20 15:01
" Compare this to 2015-16-17 where there was a boom in players and a constant growth " Didnt the game break 1 mil players not long ago? Yes, its thanks to f2p but still. Also theres steady 800-900k players every day
2020-10-20 07:24
4 replies
#104
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United States Phamous3k
Going free 2 play & getting the game approved in China did wonders. Tbh, if you’re a company looking to develop a strong esport scene it seems like f2p is a must.
2020-10-20 07:41
3 replies
So, the statistics of Steam do not include Chinese players, do they?
2020-10-20 08:21
2 replies
#115
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United States Phamous3k
Yeh. Perfect World/Steam but, I think they're added to the overall numbers... Idk.. Here's the MM servers for all regions though steamdb.info/servers/
2020-10-20 08:21
1 reply
EU is 55% of the peak numbers so it's like 500k players here. CS;GO is just huge in EU.
2020-10-20 09:13
he is a mumbling old man . He decided to end his career , to get achievements in streams . But he was just thrown out , because he is not good anymore . Why would you take shroud , when you can have Jks , Obo , jkaem ? He wants to be good , but CS evolved faster than him
2020-10-20 07:24
NA csgo pros lack motivation because unless you're an established pro there's almost no chance to get an org for your team. If teams like Swole Patrol are making it into the top 30 and not getting payed, it makes people a lot less motivated, and a lot more likely to switch to a new game where they can actually make money.
2020-10-20 07:37
1 reply
Along with the fact that there’s no decent igls apart from Stanislaw, vanity, and maybe Stewie, and combined with the fact that we've historically put pugginess and pure aim over tactics makes it hard for experienced players to help develop the scene
2020-10-20 08:07
He has been saying that csgo is dying from the past 2 years lmao
2020-10-20 08:09
8 replies
Funny that he first said this while playing PUBG full time, that died. Then he said it again while playing apex, it died as well. Then he switched to mixer, it died as well. Although he is a good player, it is hard to take anything seriously that he says or does.
2020-10-20 08:16
1 reply
Lmao +1 everygame which he played has died and the game he says is dying is still doing great
2020-10-20 16:34
cs has been dying for the past 2 years lol, it doesn't just go ahead and die in a day
2020-10-20 08:25
5 replies
Yeah, that's why CS:GO set a record for average and peak number of players in several times in this year.
2020-10-20 09:18
3 replies
cs opened to china, CS is still the best fps by far but it doesn't change the fact that it still is slowing down
2020-10-20 09:27
2 replies
China players doesn't count in Steam statistics, lol. They have their own client.
2020-10-20 09:37
pepega
2020-10-20 14:04
It got more players wdym lol
2020-10-20 15:55
The valorant scene is only alive because of corona, if it was international tournaments NA would die in valorant too, EU too strong bro
2020-10-20 08:26
1 reply
its like saying the lcs is strong based only on the split... The second msi or worlds come around they get their assed kicked by the rest of the world
2020-10-20 08:27
Grandpa shroud is out of touch and doesn't know shit about the esports scene, just lives in his own little bubble with his boring ass stream
2020-10-20 08:48
#130
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Namibia doggc
Without PUBG, shroud is probably streaming CS right now and probably playing with mythic.
2020-10-20 08:52
imagine giving some dude who does jack shit except turn on his camera and play valorant attention
2020-10-20 09:27
#140
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World Notb8ing
He is right but this has been obvious for long time so zzzzzzz
2020-10-20 09:29
#143
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Brazil potat
its not dying, its more even
2020-10-20 09:40
I,m lack motivated to play Valorant cuz cartoony game If Denmark dominates in Valorant and valorant in NA is dying?
2020-10-20 09:50
expected from BOT he will regret those words 👩🏼‍🔪🔪
2020-10-20 09:54
shroud is a good guy
2020-10-20 09:56
so many butthurt kids here XD
2020-10-20 10:06
He is just jumping from game to game. Apex dead, pubg dead, valorant ....
2020-10-20 14:00
NA CS, yes. He is just wishful thinking.
2020-10-20 14:08
no one will miss NA CS anyway LOL
2020-10-20 14:09
As we all see CS competetive scene these days has been a game of who makes less mistakes and punish others for those is a winner So let's say what was the reason of having coaches? I mean what is the reason of having them? It's not like they search for some data, make anti-strats or even legit make their own defaults be sharp and on point? Even if they do so, why we can't see any result of it, due players stupidity I guess? They can't even force their players to actually play a match, even important ones, seriously? Constant over-peeking, fundamental mistakes, guys literally chill these days not giving a fuck about their performance - people are crazily lazy. Why do you even play the tournament if the only reason to play is you being forced by your org? Why org keeps forcing players to play if they look exhausted and unenthusiastic? This shit legit looks boring. Take a look on matches of 2013-2015? People were literally crying, yelling, breaking their keyboards and mouses during the match - this is the passion I'm used to see. What do we have now? Players just sit literally "FULL CHILL", some of them like 'gratata' miss 10 shots in a row and all they do is a grin. You can call it a boomers stuff, but you can perfectly see how players give 0 fucks about the game - keep doing same mistakes for years already.
2020-10-20 14:19
stopped reading at "shroud" /close
2020-10-20 14:47
#173
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Italy davvasti
They lack motivation cuz they trash hehe
2020-10-20 15:17
CS is fine. Some americans are just beginning to see that NA e sport, or NA cs is not a strong scene.. However there is nothing new about that, only new in it is that americans is just begining to accept it. Its been pretty much the same for years. its only in the close hive of america where the it seems like a change and such.
2020-10-20 15:50
How much did Riot pay him to say this? Do you think it's more than when Apex legends was going to be the best game ever?
2020-10-20 16:31
#196
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Indonesia he_J
michael twofaced gezeziek
2020-10-20 16:35
Shroud is so far disconnected with the cs scene at this point there's honestly zero point in listening him talk about cs anymore. "Valorant will take the number on competitive FPS spot" are you like dumb or are you dumb mate
2020-10-20 16:36
2 replies
I mean to be fair he isnt wrong. Most of the players in Na has moved games, most NA cs teams has pulled out. Other NA esports teams that play league barely make it out of groups, the ow scene is pretty much dead, the Siege scene isn’t as big and the numbers are slowly decreasing with the increase in valorant hype so he isnt wrong. Cs is a dying game but is kept alive in EU. Same thing with Asia, Asian cs pretty much died ages ago when SEA countries swapped to mobile esports since its more affordable for people and the higher end ex fps players would swap to valo. Cs is clearly dying and i feel like theres nothing we can do about it. Its clearly reflecting on the viewcounts and exposure if each cs game. A tier 1 cs game, a major final now isnt gonna get as much views as other esports or even close to what it use to get. Orgs are pulling out and its clear thT cs is only alive cause of the EU scene
2020-10-31 03:58
1 reply
Well not really. You can't say cs is dying because it's playerbase is still at a relatively high level. The only reason why the NA scene is dying is not because cs as an esport is dying. In fact it still pulls hundreds of thousands of viewers (EPL 12 final had around 600k viewers). The real reason why NA esports is not doing well is the players themselves, which is the only real point that shroud got correct. NA players all wanna just win, they don't care about improving during scrims or fostering new talent. Like Dizzy said, teams didn't sign him because he was essentially a no name whereas in EU people actually care about the new talnet. Just take players like Broky and Bymas for example and even oBo for that matter.
2020-10-31 22:54
CS is totally fine in a global scale. NA/USA are just not really that much into e-sports.... They are much more focused on actual sports... Just look at Olympics. USA is insanely dominant. Summer + winter Olympics gold medal counts: USA: 1,127 Soviet Union: 473 (second highest ranked and have less than half USA medals) It's just a culture thing.. This also not even taking into account sports that are mostly a USA only thing... like American Handegg and Baseball to a smaller extent...
2020-10-20 16:38
4 replies
with an economy of 20.000.000.000.000$ i can get 1127 medals too
2020-10-20 16:40
1 reply
dumb turk
2020-10-20 20:44
i mean proportionally to population you aren't that amazing. ofc when you have 300mil some of the non-fat ones are gonna be pretty good
2020-10-20 21:17
1 reply
Not that amazing? Go look at India, China, Russia, Brazil etc and compare to the USA accomplishments when it comes to world wide sports of all kinds. This does not scale the way you think with population. It has a lot more to do with infrastructure and culture. It is no secret that the USA has the majority of the best Colleges in the entire world. Like 8 out of the top 10 if I'm remember correctly and many more top schools. Those colleges are also very expensive and sports are a very good way to get your tuition paid for partially or in full. This is deeply ingrained in the educational system in the US. Young adults are highly encouraged and motivated to excel in all kinds of sports in order to get access to higher education. It is far more complex than "hurrdurr population sizes". That's actually a fairly ignorant argument much like comparing policies/politics from places like Nordic countries with 5 million habitats, little immigration and no colonial history to a country with 300+ million inhabitants who used to be a colony and had millions of slaves brought over for hundreds of years.
2020-10-21 01:12
#208
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North America ^name^
yeah ik, NA CS is dying because all the decent players left for Valorat, and plus, all the good valorant orgs are in NA. SO you could say the Valorant EU is dying because EU CS is better. And he's only speaking from an esport stand point. I have many normie friends that don't play cs and all of them have played valorant, but never played it after that one time. Compared to CS where people play it for longer
2020-10-20 16:45
#216
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Serbia eliiiiii_
NA CS pros had no motivation or work ethic for the most part best outlined by the Stew tweet about 10AM matches
2020-10-20 17:56
no sense.. this was a great year for CSGO. Just take a look at the numbers of viwers, players on steam, faceit, GC. EG x mibr reached half million viewers. furia x mibr reached great numbers as well. maybe na cs is not in his prime moment but take a look at TOP 5 teams in the world, 2 of them are from NA. And what about Furia.. they changed the way pro teams play. Just see arT playing, the most aggressive player of all csgo history. csgo is more alive than it was at the last 2 years.
2020-10-20 18:01
1 reply
is all brazillian just only team is good is eg and furia mibr nonamers
2020-10-20 23:15
Overrated washed up player. Nobody cares what he thinks.
2020-10-20 18:38
just because the NA scene is trash. cry more burger shhhraaud.
2020-10-20 18:40
i remember about him saying that Mixer is the future for streaming ahaha so i trusth him 100% :D
2020-10-20 18:40
Why does it matter? Its his opinon. I would say NA is trash. But is it? MAYBE but its my opinon. Let him say whatever he wants. You do what you want. If you enjoy cs go play CS, if you enjoy VALORANT go play it. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. WHO CARS? VROOM VROOM
2020-10-20 18:44
1 reply
why do you 🚗 if people 🚗
2020-10-20 19:26
#236
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Finland Ilucs
Hasn't Shroud been saying this for the last 5 years?
2020-10-20 21:00
#258
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Canada JC_123
He is speaking out his ass for attention and you all took the bait
2020-10-20 22:20
Shroud was "good" at cs at some point but since he is struggling and started a streaming career now trying to achieve something in valorant so ofc he will talk shit about cs but I'm sure if he could decide if he wants to be the best player in cs or valorant he would choose cs but that's not the case. Many mid-tier cs players moved to valorant because they couldn't achieve anything but they were decent players so they have advantage in Valorant before the 2nd valorant generation pros comes in. It was like with csgo after 1.6 the pros that were the best in 1.6 won everything in the early years then came the next gen.
2020-10-20 22:21
#262
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United States raymoney
Is it just me or is like 90% of this shit shroud says against popular opinion.
2020-10-20 22:26
#263
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Peru devbot
for me shroud only shine in pubg as a streamer. In Cs Go was overrated. I think many people expected from him more in CS GO. I don't know if CS GO dying, but the game got boring
2020-10-20 22:34
262 comments on something a former pro said about current game probably not dead
2020-10-20 22:33
cs is kinda hard to watch in na right now. normally its fun watching na vs eu but that isnt a thing anymore. its only really fun watching chaos for me.
2020-10-20 22:42
1 reply
exually cs is only shooter fun to watch wtf dudes))))))))
2020-10-20 22:49
I love how united our community is. LOL. Who cares about a "reddit" player opinion. Ffs!
2020-10-20 22:49
1 reply
hahaha
2020-10-20 22:50
shroud is dying - Cs
2020-10-20 22:49
Shroud the pussy
2020-10-20 22:53
imagine believing in a retired old man
2020-10-20 22:53
#278
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United States frauden
im idiot - shroud
2020-10-20 22:53
i dont give a fuck who is that shoud
2020-10-20 23:14
fuck shroud only 14 years old like him
2020-10-20 23:21
#301
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Estonia mr_abdul
didn't he say the same thing years ago after he quit cs?
2020-10-21 01:08
CANCEL SHROUD!!
2020-10-21 01:22
Smart NA player making way more money than competitive CS. Still a young guy too. Makes you wonder how old people are calling a 26-year-old an old man. I see so many people bashing him, but his stats aren't the worst. Hard to please.
2020-10-21 01:23
1 reply
because he looks like he is in his mid to late 50s.
2020-10-30 20:33
shroud has always been overrated by NA as a player and he has been a superf unfunny toxic streamer since he retired :)
2020-10-30 20:32
lol shroud still relevant? really? who gives a fuck? he better go entertain some kids, CS is more than 20 years old and still has loyal fans...
2020-10-30 20:34
shroud just a gamer now
2020-10-30 20:37
#334
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North America TorrN_
WHY DOES THIS DAMN THREAD KEEP COMING BACK
2020-10-30 21:05
isnt the first time hes saying cs is dying
2020-10-30 21:17
#340
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Emxer
shroud is dying lol
2020-10-30 21:17
2 replies
literally or his stream? He looks so shit for 26 year old.
2020-10-30 21:22
1 reply
#348
NiKo | 
Czech Republic Emxer
both
2020-10-31 00:21
shroud is dead
2020-10-30 21:33
Shroud is dying- CS. Some american twat telling which game is dying or not lol. Gtfo kiddo, go beggin for likes somewhere else.
2020-10-30 21:34
He is saying that for like 3 years lol
2020-10-30 21:37
350 comments about how "nobody cares" and "he is irrelevant" hmm interesting logic on HLTV as always.
2020-10-30 21:45
3 replies
Nobody will know whether you care or not if you don't say it, or you can have an opinion without putting your heart into it, you can't just take things literally and say people are hypocritical for "Caring" because they said "They don't care"
2020-10-31 00:44
2 replies
But if everyone is so eager to let everyone else know they don't care they do obviously care?
2020-10-31 01:06
1 reply
I mean, an interest in a topic, and commenting on it, doesn't mean you really care. Caring means that you sincerely give a shit about what's being said and you make an argument to the point of it, like for example I care because I'm explaining the point of this. But If I just said "Who cares", it doesn't really mean anything beyond that.
2020-10-31 01:09
#351
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New Zealand Eauor
shroud literally doesn't even know what is going on in csgo anymore, he doesn't pay attention, he said not long ago that 'c9 is gonna pull out' when they were literally in the middle of spending millions of players like alex for their new roster. shroud is a dunce, no reason to listen to him.
2020-10-31 00:47
I mean to be fair he isnt wrong. Most of the players in Na has moved games, most NA cs teams has pulled out. Other NA esports teams that play league barely make it out of groups, the ow scene is pretty much dead, the Siege scene isn’t as big and the numbers are slowly decreasing with the increase in valorant hype so he isnt wrong. Cs is a dying game but is kept alive in EU. Same thing with Asia, Asian cs pretty much died ages ago when SEA countries swapped to mobile esports since its more affordable for people and the higher end ex fps players would swap to valo. Cs is clearly dying and i feel like theres nothing we can do about it
2020-10-31 03:55
2 replies
cs player numbers are up almost record high still and it's the most popular esports in general in the world. Na playerbase was always around 15% of all players. Eu in general have population of 750million vs. usa 300 million so almost all esports is ruled by EU especially cs has always been king esports in Eu. There are few games in Asia that are popular with big player bases too but America is not that significant when it comes playerbase sizes
2020-10-31 23:05
1 reply
Largest esports is probably not the best wording for cs, in 2020, the league scene probably dominated with insane numbers. They've reached 1.1 million viewers just on worlds. Being fair the cs has a higher average prize pool compared to other esports but just based on 2020, And it is a pretty large esport as it is. But seeing how the numbers continue to rise in Valorant and how regions like NA and Asia are slowly dropping orgs and players; if this trend does continue then CS isnt a viable esports in long term. Mobile legends (MPL, an indonesian mobile legends league) got 1.2 million views just in one season. Its tier 2 matches can reach of to 14k viewers which is already more than the tier 2 and some tier 1 matches. PUBGM is also recieving 1.2 million views and this is all in Asia. The shift to mobile gaming in Asia suggests that the east is gonna drop out of pc gaming quickly and NA is gonna move to other fps. Which is why the game is DYING and not dead yet
2020-11-01 06:04
so many haters... still uppink docshit thread.l...
2020-10-31 03:56
shroud is fake af
2020-10-31 23:01
9 replies
He doesn't need to fake anything, people just watch him cuz he's good at aiming
2020-10-31 23:06
8 replies
he fakes his whole "personality"
2020-10-31 23:06
7 replies
What personality? He's boring af lol
2020-10-31 23:07
6 replies
exactly
2020-10-31 23:07
5 replies
....yeah exactly lol. So people aren't watching him for his personality that's for sure, only thing he has is good aim and it's impressionable on mass amounts of young kids. Same reason kids like Bugha from fortnite became huge, cuz he's obscenely quick at building with good aim
2020-10-31 23:09
4 replies
there are too many views on "shroud reacts to..." videos on youtube which shows that a lot of kids watch him for his fake boring personality
2020-10-31 23:11
3 replies
Cuz people obsess over him, they buy his merch so ofc they'll watch his reaction vids or anything to do with him. So...you're saying he's faking his "boring personality"?? lol
2020-10-31 23:13
2 replies
nah im saying hes trying to have one but he is socially awkward so it doesn't work either way. he doesn't know hes boring, he thinks hes interesting and brings more to viewers than just aim.
2020-10-31 23:14
1 reply
Well yeah he's pretty introverted and ofc he'll think people in general like him for WHO he is rather than just his ingame skills. I'm sure a lotta people actually like his serious/boring personality because a lot of his viewers don't have social skills and can probably relate to him lmao. My point was that he's not faking anything, I'm sure he's trying to overcome his introverted'ness but as it is, he's still boring af. Also everyone tries to imitate personality traits they like, even subconsciously, kinda how it works being around humans.
2020-10-31 23:22
#375
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Montenegro LakaZakon
I am pissing
2020-10-31 23:12
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