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TOP-5 EU
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Sweden shonk 
1. Astralis 2. Vitality 3/4 NaVi/fnatic 5. BIG dont @ me
2020-10-22 18:25
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Stopped reading at 2. Vitality
2020-10-22 18:25
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#2
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Sweden shonk
name a better team
2020-10-22 18:26
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Endpoint
2020-10-22 18:28
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#9
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Sweden shonk
fair enough
2020-10-22 18:29
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heroic
2020-10-22 18:36
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#49
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Sweden shonk
lost to G2 and barely won North on DH lost to ENCE, AGO, NaVi (twice) and Astralis on ESL PRO naaah they are preety weak after hundens ban
2020-10-22 18:42
7 replies
Still better than vitality and fnatic
2020-10-22 18:54
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#101
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Poland Pyreczqa
Vitality>Fnatic>Heroic Change my mind
2020-10-22 19:30
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When was Fnatic last good? like last year? Vitality is just zywoo + 4x bait btw just tjek ranking lol.. hltv.org/ranking/teams/2020/october/19
2020-10-22 19:33
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#110
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Poland Pyreczqa
Look at event k/d of rest of Vitality and stop bullshiting. I can even put it there specially for you Zywoo 1.46 RpK 1.15 misutaaa 1.11 shox 1.09 apEX 1.07 It is even better than Astralis k/d, so i think 2-1 for Vita tomorrow
2020-10-22 19:36
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Vita havent won an event since Epicenter 2019 nt 0/8 hltv.org/matches/2343406/heroic-vs-vital..
2020-10-22 19:41
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#116
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Poland Pyreczqa
So you think which place should Vitality have?
2020-10-22 19:43
+1
2020-10-22 19:33
sAw>endpoint
2020-10-22 18:40
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FaZe > sAw
2020-10-22 18:50
8 replies
true but still sAw>endpoint
2020-10-22 18:54
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Endpoint top 30 Saw top ? 0/8 bait
2020-10-22 18:55
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sAw 16-0 endpoint sAw 16-4 endpoint ???
2020-10-22 19:09
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DH summer Endpoint No saw????
2020-10-22 19:29
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sucking uk´s dick nc
2020-10-22 19:32
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hltv.org/ranking/teams/2020/october/19 Tjek top 30 to find saw... oh wait...
2020-10-22 19:33
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so y u defending endpoint like it is ur team, they are just worse than saw rn and thats a fact
2020-10-22 19:43
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0/8
2020-10-22 23:23
#3
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France ilian_87
Astralis Vitality Navi Big Fnatic
2020-10-22 18:26
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but navi isnt eu...
2020-10-22 22:05
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They are in CIS for RMR events but in EU the rest of the time
2020-10-22 22:23
who cars online cs
2020-10-22 18:26
1.Astralis 2.Vitality 3.BIG 4.Heroic 5.OG
2020-10-22 18:26
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#8
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Sweden shonk
Heroic is fine but OG haha
2020-10-22 18:28
23 replies
why
2020-10-22 18:30
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#13
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Sweden shonk
idk
2020-10-22 18:31
7 replies
OG and fnatic at same lvl kekw
2020-10-22 18:37
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#37
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Sweden shonk
they should stop losing to them then
2020-10-22 18:39
5 replies
head2head og still leading fnatic fan...
2020-10-22 18:41
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#50
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Sweden shonk
what do u mean head2head lol they already lost twice in the past few days :D even online
2020-10-22 18:45
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#88
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Finland kkd69
and og won them in iem ny semifinals and are leading in h2h 3-2
2020-10-22 19:23
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#93
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Sweden shonk
half year ago charity tournament :D hltv.org/matches/2341752/fnatic-vs-og-ga.. :D ye bro.... im sorry... 1 close game on IEM is definitely more than 2 wins in the past few days XD hltv.org/events/5226/esl-pro-league-seas.. or this one 6 months ago, fnatic won the ESL but lost to OG once clearly shows that OG is better XD
2020-10-22 19:27
all of fnatic wins cllose games also...
2020-10-22 20:49
they are literally ranked #5 in eu you cant argue against that its an actual fact
2020-10-22 18:35
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#35
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Sweden shonk
6 And they will lose their points anyway They already lost to fnatic twice on DH and they would never have a chance against them on lan They never really showed anything special before and after the tier-2 IEM event with 8 teams and 100k prize pool.
2020-10-22 18:38
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flag checks out
2020-10-22 18:39
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#40
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Sweden shonk
i am right tho look at any match before and after IEM
2020-10-22 18:40
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you arent right though
2020-10-22 18:41
also navi isnt eu its CIS
2020-10-22 18:35
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#52
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Sweden shonk
CIS is not a continent XD
2020-10-22 18:47
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are you actually this dumb or are you baiting
2020-10-22 18:47
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#59
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Sweden shonk
hltv.org/events/5372/esl-pro-league-seas.. explain Russia (usually) and Ukraine are both considered as EU countries btw :)
2020-10-22 18:51
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small part of russia is on eu side retard lmao
2020-10-22 20:51
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#121
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Sweden shonk
worldometers.info/geography/how-many-cou.. you are welcome imagine calling me a retard and then get rekt so hard lol geographically Russia belongs to 2 continents politically - Europe. cant wait to hear some cool fairy tales about Finland and their small area in scandinavia also
2020-10-22 21:03
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😂😂 most of russia is on asia side bruh
2020-10-22 21:04
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#123
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Sweden shonk
just like there are some french islands in the Indian and Pacific oceans 75% of Russia's population live in the EU part as well. Now grab ur vodka and go to sleep.
2020-10-22 21:09
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Wow i grab my beer and go to sleep
2020-10-22 21:35
Fnatic > OG
2020-10-22 18:51
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name checks out
2020-10-22 18:51
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check last 2 head to heads
2020-10-22 18:53
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check the h2h before that
2020-10-22 18:54
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and that matters why? i thought Norwegians are smart?
2020-10-22 18:58
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i am very smart thats why i can read that OG is ranked higher than fnatic being able to beat a team doesnt mean you're better than them
2020-10-22 18:58
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In the online era, form can change within a week. We can see that from teams going from a win event to bombing out last. Longevity no longer exists in the scene. Therefore we are lucky that 3 matches were played within that time. We can see fnatic has become better and better vs OG, and the past 2 series have got the better of them. Head to head, fnatic has proven themselves across two Best of Threes within days of each other they are better currently. Any other argument has to assume form is maintained for longer than a month online which is ridiculous and completely untrue. Goodbye
2020-10-22 19:22
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tldr also i dont care all i said is OG is ranked higher than fnatic and thats not something you can argue against
2020-10-22 19:24
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Because HLTV ranks work on the assumption longevity exists (taking into account many months worth of events) whereas a brain would tell you that none exists at all. If you believe that rankings that take into more than a month of games in the online season (where a good amount of events have been played) have any real meaning then you're stupid and not worth talking to.
2020-10-22 19:27
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thought you were done with this convo even said "goodbye"
2020-10-22 19:28
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I was saying goodbye to sanity as i knew any argument post my comment would be stupid. I was not surprised.
2020-10-22 19:29
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the only statement i have made is an actual fact and you cannot argue against it OG is ranked higher than fnatic
2020-10-22 19:29
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A calculation cant take into account context therefore = HLTV rankings are good but not perfect, especially for online
2020-10-22 19:30
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i dont care your opinion on the formula OG is ranked higher than fnatic
2020-10-22 19:31
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#111
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Sweden shonk
you are actually dumb ^^ "being able to beat a team doesnt mean you're better than them" XDDDDDD ye, 2 times in a row in the past few days more points = better I see, I see. Considering the fact that 50% of the scene didnt even participate in IEM
2020-10-22 19:37
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i dont care my only statement was OG is higher ranked than fnatic and if beating a team means you are better than them then looks like forze and vp > natus vincere
2020-10-22 19:39
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#114
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Sweden shonk
VP is better than like 10-15 teams in the current top-30. But ye, u can keep mentioning the ranking that gets updated after every online fluke event
2020-10-22 19:41
1. NaVi 2. ENCE 3. Forze 4. NIP 5. GODSENT
2020-10-22 18:27
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-forZe + Endpoint and good ranking
2020-10-22 18:30
-Ence + Cyber Legacy
2020-10-22 18:35
#72
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Finland cuntycorn
stopped reading at your flag
2020-10-22 18:55
almost got baited damn 6/8
2020-10-22 22:06
#11
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Germany hswe_jk
depends if fnatic is on their peak as well as astralis no1 can beat those teams but rn id go w astralis Vitality Fnatic BIG OG also Faze could have been on this list with their IEM NY performence id also consider a mousesports a top contender... lets see what the new cloud9 can deliever and if Complexity can get on top again after they sign jks
2020-10-22 18:30
Germany top 1 xaxa ))
2020-10-22 18:34
#28
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Romania Obuz8
sorry but Heroic is better than all of these teams except Astralis. But once Astralis will replace es3tag with xyp9x heroic will be better than them to so HEROIC TOP 1
2020-10-22 18:36
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#61
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Sweden shonk
#49 ok
2020-10-22 18:52
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#134
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Romania Obuz8
every t1 team loses to some lower tier teams once in a while,besides in heroics case that happened exactly after hundens ban, which as you said was a huge blow, but they arent weak. Today they proved that they are better then BIG as i said. Tommorow they will prove they are better than fnatic and so on
2020-10-23 15:44
Astralis NaVi BIG / Vitality Heroic
2020-10-22 18:37
where is saw????????????????????????????
2020-10-22 18:37
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#55
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Sweden shonk
sAw is 0. irmao
2020-10-22 18:49
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best team in europe
2020-10-22 18:49
#38
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Serbia TheSerb
Hmm hard to say atm Astralis #1 forsure Other spots are very sensitive becouse some teams shine for a moment then suck like faze,heroic,big My #2 Vita mby they arent winning but are somewhat consistent #3 na vi but super inconsistent # 4 heroic they play gr8 cs yeah last 2 events they fell off a bit but i wont be suprised if they make the finals again from lower bracket As for #5 it can be anyone between OG, Fnatic,Big I think complexity before oBo left were mby even the 2 nd best team in europe they were rly strong Honorable mentions that are out of form g2,faze these teams can beat anybody anytime
2020-10-22 18:40
I can just about agree with your list but wtf is fnatic doing there???
2020-10-22 18:40
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#54
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Sweden shonk
well, they started playing good on DH this list is based on current form and ESL PRO results
2020-10-22 18:48
#43
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S
1. mousesports
2020-10-22 18:41
Astralis Heroic/Navi/Vitality Navi/Heroic/Vitality Vitality/Navi/Heroic Big
2020-10-22 18:42
lol
2020-10-22 18:42
#70
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Estonia qoznyyy
BIG LOL
2020-10-22 18:55
Astralis Vitality Heroic Fnatic
2020-10-22 19:04
Astralis Vitality Heroic BiG RiP/OG /Closed
2020-10-22 19:06
flag
2020-10-22 19:14
I know people hate having two danish teams in the top 5, but Heriod beats 3 of those teams... for sure
2020-10-22 19:30
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#126
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Sweden shonk
#49 oki
2020-10-22 22:03
Vitality is the best team at getting easy groups/brackets and then losing terribly to a much better team in the final
2020-10-22 19:30
1) Vitality 2) FVRIA 3) G2
2020-10-22 19:34
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#125
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Sweden shonk
xdddddddddddddddddd
2020-10-22 22:02
1 reply
Hakuna Matata.
2020-10-22 22:10
#109
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Czech Republic bagin__
big xddddddddddd
2020-10-22 19:35
big????
2020-10-22 19:42
Astralis OG Vitality Heroic Complexity
2020-10-22 19:44
#130
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Sweden flippig
1. Fnatic 2. Brollan 3. Krimz 4. Jw 5. The new kings of banana
2020-10-22 22:11
#133
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Korea day|dream
Top 5 in Korea 1. xign 2. me 3. my little brother 4. the convenience store clerk who played 1.6 in 2004 5. my silver 2 smurf
2020-10-22 23:30
Renegades
1.03
Chiefs
7.10
Chaos
1.21
Rugratz
4.43
GGPR
2.47
Rise
1.51
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