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Belgium NinjaStyle16 
I am not here to judge anyone but I honestly think that marrying and getting a kid while being at peak of your carreer young wasn't the best idea. How can you focus on being the best (that imply practicing for 10 hours a day , everyday) and raising kids and spending quality time with your family ? And how that will impact navi ?
2020-10-27 20:38
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He is not even the biggest problem in Navi.. sure he should be doing more but the real question is why is flamie still in the team ?
2020-10-27 20:40
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bcs of RMR points i guess or they are waiting for LANs to comeback to find out who really is the problem
2020-10-27 20:41
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#34
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Denmark KING_VITO
+1
2020-10-27 21:01
+1 simple basically said on stream that they arent making any roster changes until they see how they do on LAN
2020-10-27 23:28
Think flamie should swap roles with perfecto.
2020-10-27 20:41
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True, Perfecto plays the shities positions and still does better job than flamie...
2020-10-27 20:45
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Its just because flamie is "older" member of navi and has that role for long time. Perfecto has yet to prove his worth even though he performed really well. But he just needs more time , maybe he will get more freedom later on.
2020-10-27 20:46
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more time ahahha , he is doing better then him since he joined the team while getting baited on all ct setups by botflamie. Or he gives is positions to perfecto , or just get kicked. I prefer the second option.
2020-10-27 20:55
Just because he’s had that role for a long time doesnt mean he should have it? They have to go by what’s best for the team. Fact: -Had the role for a long time -been shit at the role for a long time Just switch it up ffs. Good role - bad impact = just leave the team or do the dirty role in shit positions!
2020-10-27 21:02
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> Just because he’s had that role for a long time doesnt mean he should have it? You are correct. Though it’s Easy to say, quite hard to implement
2020-10-27 22:14
#16
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Lithuania Ufasas
all members in the team, because there is simple, single, nonmarried, and playing 48 hours per day, so he can carry all
2020-10-27 20:48
+1 , thats one of the most dificult question on the universe to answer. BOTflamie must be son of Navi CEO, thats why he dont get kicked
2020-10-27 20:54
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Hmm also I believe changing team will improve flamie's performance
2020-10-27 21:19
lol flamie right now in the best condition (since 2016), idk why you talk about
2020-10-27 21:37
"marrying and getting a kid while being at peak of your carreer young wasn't the best idea" +111111111111111111111
2020-10-27 20:40
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#61
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Spain Medlar
Games, despite being a profession and your most beloved profession, at the end, are that: games, immaterial and inherent. When you lie in bed with your daughter accompanied by your wife, eternity is formed there.
2020-10-27 21:41
#3
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Lithuania Airforlife
Electronic was always very strong at Lan events, wait till those.
2020-10-27 20:40
Somewhat agree
2020-10-27 20:41
#7
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Russia supostatekx
That is so true. Many careers were ruined just for “the family”. Imao it’s just a popular excuse to waste your potential and ruin ambitions staying in the comfort zone. I know that some people think different and that’s ok. As well as ok me not understanding it
2020-10-27 20:41
#8
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Other |imperator
Marrying and getting a kid is always a problem Don’t do this mens! Be free and fap everyday
2020-10-27 20:42
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Agree with everything except fap. real men don't do that shit. And I am not against marrying or creating family , that's very good. But there should be priorities , when to do that and when not. There is a time for everything.
2020-10-27 20:45
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Exactly. Top priority is yourself, your business, your ambitions and so on. Then goes family and friends. And then and only then your GF/wife.
2020-10-27 20:51
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Your family should be top priority if you decided to have one. Then your goals etc. So use brain , and stay single and free while you can.
2020-10-27 20:52
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> Your family should be top priority That is the part where our opinions differ.
2020-10-27 20:53
10 replies
Yeah and neglect your kids like an asshole enjoying what you like. Then when you will beold then kids wont dgaf about you. That's what you want ? And your wife as she will feel neglected will just have sex on the side. bruh
2020-10-27 20:57
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Not saying anything just curious how old are you? > Then when you will old then just kids wont dgaf about you If a man is making kids in order to have some future profit within that “investment”.. well the man has high risk of being cruelly disappointed > And your wife as she will feel neglected will just have sex on the side Nope, the wife more likely will have sex in the side if you decide to be nice gentlemen. If you are curios just look at divorce rate within different countries and cultures. Take some Islam folks for example - how many of them found themselves in such a situations? And what about your country (or mine or USA etc)
2020-10-27 21:00
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I didn't imply to have kids to have profit from them in the future. What I meant is that you won't have any strong connection with your kids later on. Why would they care for you if you wasn't there in their childhood ? They also will be damaged people without a good father role model. And my age don't matter , what matter is what I say. I live in Belgium and I know about the sad statistics of divorce , it's even worse in Russia.
2020-10-27 21:11
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> They also will be damaged people without a good father role model. That’s true, but I am not saying you should totally ignore them. In fact proper father role model is essential and big part of it is the father being the core of the family with its interests and priorities on top to show your kid how the things should be. Ofc you care. > it's even worse in Russia. Exactly and that is for ruined family institution.
2020-10-27 21:13
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When you are confident in yourself and with women it will flow all naturally. If you are a simp , you will always do what your wife says and that will lead to all sorts of problems in your family. If man is weak , rip family. But being strong doesn't mean to be asshole and never listen to your wife (always do what you want , that's not how things work). Sometimes you need to compromise and sacrifice your time for your family.
2020-10-27 21:21
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I can’t disagree on that though how can you get enough strong men in the first place with the world culture trend of quite opposite?
2020-10-27 21:25
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You have to break the cycle through hard work on yourself (not saying it's going to be easy) , not everyone is lucky enough to have the right example from childhood. Very often people see very bad behavior and unconsciously pick it up and act same when they get older.
2020-10-27 21:31
And again I’m not judging by age, just was curius as was surprised meeting someone traditional family based on EN internet
2020-10-27 21:21
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I know where you come from. The MGTOW movement ,I kinda not agree with everything it has to offer/say. I am between the two , between being a leader in a family (wife always behind his man) but also providing emotional comfort to wife and kids. That means being selfless but assertive and strong male figure. You need to have the last word as a man. my father was quite the opposite , a weak figure and it's really hard for me now to know how to behave with women (all subconscious destructive programs) from childhood. It's like consciously I know I have to be strong and not being a doormat but subconsciously I have seen all those scenes from how my father wasn't just there to show me the right example.
2020-10-27 21:33
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Totally understood. Well yeah I’m somewhere near MGTOW and I was lucky enough to be raised in traditional family though I have many friends like you and many of them faced the same issues. And just as you said in other replay the only thing is self improvement, thinking and talking with like minded people
2020-10-27 21:38
typical narcissist. a real man puts his family above everything.
2020-10-27 21:19
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Yea, we know everything about that “real man” from cinemas and Twitter. Just a thought: if real man puts his family (saying his wife/gf) as top priority- how can women value such a man? Say woman knows you value her more than yourself. So what’s bad in that? You can not see?
2020-10-27 21:41
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I think you can't really choose that stuff , I mean it's all going subconsciously. You can't fake the fact that you don't put on a pedestal your girlfriend. She will just smell it/feel it. It has to be genuine strenght and being in control of your destiny , having goals and your own way. In my opinion , you should heal your inner issues before getting into a relationship. people who simp have attachment problems (coming also from childhood).
2020-10-27 21:52
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Yeas of course though I was not saying you should fake it right? It’s definitely should be the true part so everything you said is completely true
2020-10-27 22:00
Relation/marriage is straight up bulls**t.You will get cheated if you commit in a relationship.So mens be smart and dont commit/marry
2020-10-27 21:37
#28
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Australia lo0u
What makes you think he planned to have a kid at that age? Sometimes life happens. Also, who are you to decide what his priorities are? Mind your own business. Even at his worst he's not even close of being the problem with this team.
2020-10-27 20:56
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> Mind your own business. That’s not the point. He can do whatever he likes. And we can speculate as well
2020-10-27 21:03
#59
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
ill fap into ur mouth
2020-10-27 21:40
maybe gf really wanted to marry + kids
2020-10-27 20:44
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#15
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Other |imperator
Ofc cus she is a gold digger When elec will get kicked from navi she will throw him and get his money
2020-10-27 20:47
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Yes, just another cuckold
2020-10-27 20:52
Who the duck cares what she wants if it badly impacts man business? Ffs
2020-10-27 20:52
#12
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Belarus lil_vodka
wtf is your problem if he wants a kid he has the right to have one & you're just like oh nooo hes in his what he doink let the man live ffs
2020-10-27 20:46
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ok
2020-10-27 20:50
Usually it’s women just force weak boys to do as they want. Then they complain about how things go. And then they jump on a dick to hothead Arab who doesn’t gives a fuck what she says or thinks
2020-10-27 20:56
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#32
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Belarus lil_vodka
if thats the case than its his fault
2020-10-27 20:57
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Ofc I was not there, but statistics say it’s more likely especially giving his age and social status. Boy I won’t be surprised if his wife is his first ever woman
2020-10-27 21:02
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#62
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Belarus lil_vodka
u have kids?
2020-10-27 21:41
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I will answer just like the man in other thread - that does not related as we are speaking about concepts and ideas and not someone’s (mine or yours implementation)
2020-10-27 22:02
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#66
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Belarus lil_vodka
you are a difficult person thats for sure
2020-10-27 22:04
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Sorry to hear, you way want to take a look at our conversation with NinjaStyle16 in order to have a chance to better understand my point. Of course if you are interested. Anyway, have a nice day!
2020-10-27 22:08
+1
2020-10-27 21:05
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More than that she will ride a dick not because she is dump or something, she would just feel happier in that situation as it fits better with traditional biological way the things go. Sad modern culture ignores that fact as traditional family as institute is being fucked almost everywhere around the world including my country
2020-10-27 21:09
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Arab>not bad man from your culture and language? How does it work?
2020-10-27 21:12
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Well Arab was more like an aggregate of a man raised and filled with traditional culture. Ofc it could be anyone suiting this criteria
2020-10-27 21:15
When lans come back, he can focus better obviously.
2020-10-27 20:46
#17
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Turkey varyS
Navi should disband and sign Spirit team
2020-10-27 20:49
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#18
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Turkey varyS
or swap flamie perfecto positions if doesnt work kick flamie
2020-10-27 20:49
I think he didn't plan to have a kid. Someone was to horny so forgot to take a condom
2020-10-27 20:52
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hah maybe but i think elec is smart enough not to do it
2020-10-27 21:07
true
2020-10-27 20:53
#49
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Latvia ErleN_
I think his wife cheated on him and said that it was his child, I'm sure this is not his child they are not the same at all
2020-10-27 21:22
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200 iq
2020-10-27 21:41
Electronic has no personality. He has the mental frequency for LAN events only. Once Corona is over, he will be activated again.
2020-10-27 21:24
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#70
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Argentina atriX^
It's not that he or Na`Vi in general has the "mental frequency" for LAN events only. It's that they are very good at handling the pressure of LAN event while some other teams with young rising stars might not yet be able to. That's why Online events aren't held with high regard. Players don't perform the same. It's much easier to play better in the comfort of your home (or gaming house) while only elite players can perform as well on LAN events with the pressure of having a crowd with several thousand people. Being that said, Na`Vi has other problems. No strategy or teamplay (due to bad IGLing or bad coaching) and players who are not carrying their weight (mainly flamie). Electronic is fine, he's just in a slump, he will get back to his old form but Na`Vi HAS to sort out their other issues so that they don't rely entirely on s1mple and/or electronic having the matches of their lives.
2020-10-27 23:25
it might be the opposite. full focusing on cs might turn u into olof, U ll start puking everytime u open cs in the morning. Family is really making u feel better. It's not some random gf that u waste ur time on
2020-10-27 21:33
I dont get why people get kids at age 20-24 i mean you are still a freaking kid and u havent lived your life much yet. You are supposed to party and have fun at that age and not start playing family..
2020-10-27 22:13
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