Thread has been deleted
Last comment
-flamie +sh1ro
 | 
North America joeS 
-flamie +sh1ro place him in a rifle/2nd AWP role. he has proven to be a consistent workhorse and would fit in quite nicely I feel.
2020-10-27 22:29
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
-flamie is 100% the right move but Mir is the only correct replacement
2020-10-27 22:30
11 replies
unless s1mple is willing to give up AWP again because sh1ro is simply wasted if relegated to rifles
2020-10-27 22:30
4 replies
#6
 | 
North America joeS
Not true. Sh1ro actually played rifle before. Put him on a 2nd awp position like I said and he would be a huge upgrade in firepower.
2020-10-27 22:31
2 replies
ax1le is better rifler than shiro by a mile and sh1ro is a big time baiter just like s1mple. They should get ax1Le for sure.
2020-10-27 23:19
1 reply
#75
RpK | 
France pol44r
+ax1e is easily the most well rounded player in Gambit
2020-10-28 11:17
i think spirit won't let him go away easy Navi won't spend big money on CIS players like they did't buy flit
2020-10-28 10:43
They did that on Gambit a couple years ago and mir played worst than zeus, got kicked for fitch
2020-10-27 22:31
4 replies
okay? that was 2017 lmao he's the best CIS rifler without question this year
2020-10-27 22:31
3 replies
onliner
2020-10-27 22:33
1 reply
as if there is gonna be lans in the next 3 years anyway
2020-10-28 09:34
1st: he's baiter as s1mple 2nd: online cs 3rd: he would be put in support positions in Na'vi, the positions that flamie do, this dosen't work, look at Coldzera being support on FaZe: 0.99 rating 4th: if Spirit -idisbalance +sh1ro, on my opinion they can beat Na'Vi easily
2020-10-28 00:50
#58
 | 
Moldova shawww
You have to understand that Mir just won't work. Mir is a rifler/ top fragger in his team. There is already electronic which shares mostly the same roles as Mir so practically bringing Mir in Navi to replace flamie will kill Mir's stats/performance. At the same time I don't think Navi needs a -flamie, they just need to find constituency and boombl4 has a lot to learn as he is a young IGL, so clearly not close to the best ones but on a good track. So I guess when LAN will be back Navi will be more consistent.
2020-10-28 09:34
#5
DD | 
United States breasts
if they ever replaced anyone it would prob be with a navi jr player
2020-10-27 22:31
4 replies
b1t deserves it the most
2020-10-27 22:32
3 replies
He’s the only one that does from that team
2020-10-27 22:34
+1
2020-10-27 22:37
+1
2020-10-27 22:46
sh1ro is better than ax1le but the problem is ax1le fits flamie's role so much better.
2020-10-27 22:32
1 reply
+1
2020-10-28 10:50
- flamie + mir - electronic + sh1ro awp S1mple to rifle, he is quite a decent rifle. Ok stats will be a bit lower but man if they actually start winning?
2020-10-27 22:33
10 replies
bro elec is still 2nd best player on navi are you on crack
2020-10-27 22:35
9 replies
NaVi should 100% elec and s1mple no matter unless they're getting an unrefusable amount of money
2020-10-27 22:36
1 reply
fr flamie is the only one who deserves to be kicked he's been stagnating this entire year
2020-10-27 22:36
2020-10-27 22:36
1 reply
still WAY less inconsistent than flamie
2020-10-27 22:37
#21
 | 
Belarus lil_vodka
nah just vodka mens
2020-10-27 22:37
4 replies
Don’t say I can’t afford crack ffs you are so insulting
2020-10-27 22:39
3 replies
#27
 | 
Belarus lil_vodka
dude u dont like vodka ti ahuel??
2020-10-27 22:41
2 replies
I quit drinking vodka when I was 14 br
2020-10-27 22:42
1 reply
#35
 | 
Belarus lil_vodka
i mean like u dont have to chuck it but as my name says it isnt that awful at all))
2020-10-27 22:53
Also there is the thing - not many CSI players on near top teams want to join Navi, many refused, others out of scope due unrealistic high buyouts.
2020-10-27 22:35
6 replies
can you really blame them? the culture of the team just seems super toxic
2020-10-27 22:35
5 replies
Well yeah you are kinda right. But on* the other side is there a real chance to win a major like event in team like VP of team spirit?
2020-10-27 22:38
4 replies
Not spirit but VP has definitely been cracking heads since they got Yekindar. Jame is not a good IGL but they play way more freely. Whoever is calling NaVi's t-sides is the problem
2020-10-27 22:39
1 reply
I love VP streak as well but it’s anyway* just some weak tier2 teams except Navi of course. Still to prove their worth against top eu
2020-10-27 22:41
#53
 | 
Asia SWARN151
They were the major finalists of the Last major (Starladder Berlin 2019), and adreN wasn't even playing well. Yekindar is much better. This roster with Yekindar is definitely even better than that roster. With a little more experience together, they can be S-Tier championship contenders again.
2020-10-28 09:18
1 reply
#70
 | 
Indonesia segopecel
Not to take away their achievement, but honestly they were bit of a darkhorse then. No one ready for their strats(or maybe underestimate them) except astralis. I remember in mirage, teams kept peeking mid when jame in connector or window(and he rarely missed). Avangar kept using one way smoke near ticket and other teams rarely prefire there. etc etc.
2020-10-28 10:56
#14
 | 
Ukraine nvvonknu
Every no CIS user can't understand that Gambit dont want to sale sh1ro. They understand how lucky they are with getting him. No way
2020-10-27 22:35
#22
 | 
Europe MalluKing
Why downgrade?
2020-10-27 22:37
2 replies
#25
 | 
North America joeS
0/8 flamie should have been gone. Only reason he got to stay was because of the 2 spraydowns on Nuke in Katowice. Beyond washed
2020-10-27 22:39
1 reply
#42
 | 
Europe MalluKing
I agree with flamie, but sh1ro shouldn't go to NaVi
2020-10-27 23:41
-flamie -Boombl4 +Mir +IDisbalance/Jerry
2020-10-27 22:44
4 replies
as if navi will want to play with jerry after the recent drama
2020-10-28 00:58
3 replies
well its between him and IDisbalance and Jerry is more proven
2020-10-28 09:13
2 replies
idisbalance isnt even igl for spirit, its chopper
2020-10-28 09:30
1 reply
i was so sure it was IDisbalance lol
2020-10-28 11:13
s1mple - mir - YEKINDAR - Qikert - electronic CIS dream team make it happen
2020-10-27 22:44
yekindar maybe? Been on fire since joining vp and understands russian aswell.
2020-10-27 22:45
2 replies
#36
 | 
Russia Syonamaru
It will be sad. He seems very happy at VP.
2020-10-27 22:58
1 reply
yes but i don't see vp challenging for titles any time soon
2020-10-27 23:17
Yes Shiro another exitsaver of awp is a much needed addition to Navi roster. Over rated kid, sexpower is the real thing!
2020-10-27 22:50
flamie is one of the most underrated player in the scene. many people can't actually realise how hard is it to play a lone b anchor on this level of cs and flamie is hugely consistent in that field, also he is able to 2nd awp on b site and he is a very good support player and the only player you can really change in navi is perfecto, but they won't do it and that's it so unless they go #25 again they won't make any changes as they are still top 5 contenders and they are probably waiting for LAN before doing any changes, it's just insecure to do changes in this kind of a situation.
2020-10-27 23:38
2 replies
AHAHAHHA 0/8 , he is baiting perfecto on all ct setups , and still cant do shit ahahhaha nice bait lol, BOTflamie collecting paychecks for 2 years now. He must be the son of the Navi CEO , to not be kicked while doing so fucking bad
2020-10-28 00:56
There are better support players out there. SANJI plays the same roles, if not worse, and has better stats too. flamie overrated in importance. heck, flamie is more washed than rush.
2020-10-28 09:21
expected from NA brain
2020-10-27 23:39
Two the biggest baiters in one team, I aren't think that
2020-10-27 23:39
1 reply
agreed +mir and navi top 1
2020-10-28 09:14
???? idiot? if -flamie then +axile because shiro is sniper and he wouldnt kill as much without awp (don't talk shit about 2nd awp because it's mostly 1 awp in team and 2 awps in certain maps with very good CT economy, never in T), axile would fit much better
2020-10-27 23:45
"place him in a rifle/2nd AWP role" expected from NA
2020-10-28 00:53
sh1ro is a baiter lol 0.51% deaths per round lul, not even Jame as that low dpr lul +Ax1le that would be the roster move of 2020
2020-10-28 00:54
sh1ro is an awper why waste him as a second awp +mir/+ax1le would be insane
2020-10-28 00:57
sh0r0 baits harder than any other player in entire cs scene, anyone who has watched a gambit match knows this
2020-10-28 01:03
#54
 | 
United States AuraVII
I believe it's time for flamie to go, sh1ro would be a good pickup but ideally they should try out m0NESY once he's 16.
2020-10-28 09:20
2 replies
m0nesy is just some overrated FPL kid like Bymas
2020-10-28 09:35
#68
 | 
Ukraine YUR4S
OMEGALULnesy is overrated
2020-10-28 10:44
#57
 | 
Germany KapioO
- flamie - perfecto + mir + m0nesy + ax1le
2020-10-28 09:32
2 replies
-2 +3?
2020-10-28 09:34
1 reply
#64
 | 
Germany KapioO
ye 6 =)
2020-10-28 10:38
#62
 | 
Faroe Islands EvilAstral
2 baiters in 1 team xDDD NaVi will die in 1 week
2020-10-28 09:37
#63
 | 
Macau Be_Happier
LULW
2020-10-28 09:37
#65
 | 
Russia armando_o
u cant build team ther everybody would be drop 30 in every game this is mathematicly wrong and logicaly... so stfu
2020-10-28 10:41
#67
 | 
Ukraine YUR4S
0/8 disband n0vi +roster Project X
2020-10-28 10:43
Love the theories. FYI shiro's buyout is higher than what G2 are paying for NiKo.
2020-10-28 10:57
First of all, Flamie is one of the best support in CIS, time when he was the star player for Na'Vi gone long ago. His low rating show nothing, and judging someone by it, is the thing that should gone. In second - Sh1ro is primary awp-er and his impact comes from it. Being the 2-nd awp will gave him nothing to do, especially in addition that he is not that often plays B, as Flamie does. So he will need time to adopt to a new role, new place adn new leadership to maybe become good at this, while Na'Vi has a player who is already good enough to do his work.
2020-10-28 10:58
1 reply
2020-10-28 10:59
-flamie has to go if they get an awper though, s1mple should definitely move to rifler position/secondary awp and let the guy be primary awp (like they did with guardian, except guardian sucked)
2020-10-28 11:21
#77
 | 
North America joeS
LMAO flamie such garbage. bottom fragging throwing against NiP
2020-10-28 17:43
Gambit
1.13
AGF
5.45
Renegades
1.03
Rooster
7.10
OG
1.48
MIBR
2.72
Bet value
Amount of money to be placed
Winning
Odds total ratio
-
Login or register to add your comment to the discussion.