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cs 1.6 > go, player skill wise
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye 
Recently i started watching some demos, I saw players like Zywoo, and Niko, some Coldzera it was from they were all doing better than today. I think i lost half braincells after watching five minutes of their game. I think csgo not even close to 1.6 by skill. Old legends just dominated every angle, every milimeter seemed to be nicely taken.. Not long ago i was watching Heaton stream i think i gained more skill by watching him play for one minute than i gained by playing myself for a month non stop. Heaton pushes in certain angle i know opponent is in big trouble, ye he fails a lot these days thats normal but i can feel tons of skill and talent in his game. I remember i used to watch Russian 1.6 legends their reaction was so sick after some kills you just start to wonder life and how this happen. After some online tournaments this year i said, Hey i have seen this similiar type of play, in goldnova game....
2020-10-31 15:20
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Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
I watch amazing moments from mayor events i think oh is that it, thats definately gold nova master not just any gold nova 3 play
2020-10-31 15:21
57 replies
+8 fr
2020-10-31 15:41
cs go needs waaay more skill than cs 1.6. csgo: the movement is harder you have to be more precise when stopping to shot awp is totally different, more robust to carry and there's no 100% precise quickscope like 1.6 you can't abuse of ducking 1.6: spray is harder.
2020-10-31 15:48
52 replies
1.6 required far more skill than CSGO. There were way more nuances to the mechanics of the game. Movement was harder. Spray was harder. Tapping was harder. You have to be more precise when stopping to shoot. Try to jump and shoot someone in 1.6 - impossible. Iconic moments like the cold jumping awp, KQLY jumping usp, S1mple falling down and no scoping the opponent on cache - impossible in 1.6 = instant death. However, CSGO pros are far better these days than 1.6 pros were. CSGO has become the better game.
2020-10-31 16:16
20 replies
this is very true!
2020-10-31 20:05
Tbh the gun mechanics of 1.6 were harder because of rng. Except for the first bullet, there is more rng in every aspect of 1.6 gunplay than csgo gunplay.
2020-10-31 20:32
2 replies
It's not rng, just learn how to spray properly.
2020-10-31 22:37
#197
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France jaimez
Have you played the game more than one hour? It's the complete opposite: the first bullet would have more rng compared to cs:go but the spray patterns were very much the same all the time
2020-11-01 14:08
Movement was harder?
2020-10-31 20:46
6 replies
More nuanced when it came to top level competition yes. You could do far more in certain situations based on your capabilities of movement utilization. CSGO doesn't have many situations like that. Everyone can run boost. Everyone can make the jump from mirage window to cat for example. In 1.6 jumping onto the rock outside on Nuke took lots of practice and a certain type of strafing to accomplish. You could jump completely through the window on B site of dust2 if you understood how to, as opposed to crawling through it in CSGO. There were more jumping sequences that led to advantages in 1.6, like how pro players jump up to apartments on Inferno today..etc. The timing of certain jumps during the opening seconds of the round in 1.6 were far more important than in csgo. There were no mollys in 1.6 and you could see through 1 smoke on its own. In today's game, you can throw a molly or a single smoke and get into position. In 1.6, you couldn't, you had to rely on your spawn and movement to get into certain positions. There was the abuse of duck jumping in 1.6, which I agree was easy and exploitable. Overall movement was much more nuanced in 1.6 though.
2020-10-31 21:03
5 replies
It's not duck jumping, it's double-duck.
2020-10-31 22:40
4 replies
It's not double-duck, fucking boomers , it's crab walking And i still remember the countless hrs to jump from truck-vent-mountain rock Ssly wtf was that jump, how did f0rest do it so easily
2020-10-31 22:45
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2020-10-31 22:47
eh no ? it was double duck. aka russian duck. it made your hitbox harder to hit and you were faster and more silent that way
2020-10-31 23:04
mibr ton was great at these stuff. Going down from cat without injury was hard.
2020-11-02 15:02
"Spray was harder" Because spray patterns were incredibly random, and the spread was much, much higher than it is in CSGO. "Tapping was harder" Again, because the spread of the weapons was much higher than in CSGO. The gunplay in 1.6 is INCREDIBLY more RNG than CSGO. Whether 1.6's gunplay is "harder" is debatable, but if you say it is, it's not because it takes more skill.
2020-10-31 23:12
5 replies
"Spray patterns random, spread much much higher than CSGO." "Spread of weapons much higher than in CSGO." "Doesn't take more skill to control" Huh? Took far more skill to shoot long range, which required more usage of tapping. Tapping that required you to lower your crosshair and deal with the recoil while doing so. In CSGO, you can tap tap tap and your bullets go in the center of your crosshair. You can spout off ten 3-shot bursts continuously with no difference in recoil. You can spray from dust2 pit to the ramp leading up to site and easily control your bullets. The first thing I noticed in CSGO after quitting cs in 2012 and coming back for fun around 2017, was the fact that everyone could just spray and prey at will. So much spraying in pro matches. Why? Because its easy as hell to do.
2020-10-31 23:33
4 replies
"Took far more skill to shoot long range" That's because the weapons have more spread, which in turn, means more RNG. "In CSGO, you can tap tap tap and your bullets go in the center of your crosshair." Not true at all. There is always some amount of spread on the weapons at all times. The update where they made tap firing more accurate and spraying less accurate over time just emphasizes the importance of tap firing at long range. "You can spray from dust2 pit to the ramp leading up to site and easily control your bullets" Not true either. Spraying from that range not only increases the magnitude of the recoil, but also the spread. Even if you could control the spray perfectly, the spread would be too high to reliably hit your shots. Any shot you land at that range by spraying is due to pure luck. You're being hyperbolic here. "So much spraying in pro matches. Why? Because its easy as hell to do." It only seems easier because it's less RNG. 1.6 has random spray patters and high spread. CSGO made the gunplay better by reducing the RNG aspects of the gunplay enough to promote spray/recoil control and positioning.
2020-10-31 23:49
3 replies
+1
2020-11-01 00:05
Not sure what you're trying to argue here. Less RNG and less spread in CSGO = easier to control. No?
2020-11-01 03:09
1 reply
I think he's saying 1.6 was random so you *can't* control it. In other words, controlling the spray in 1.6 wasn't possible but in GO, the spray is consistent which makes it possible to practice and get better results. With random spraying, you can't introduce skill into it because it's more about giving yourself the best odds of getting lucky. Like trying to practice becoming a 'skilled' dice roller - it's not possible.
2020-11-02 23:00
Kqly was cheating so really should not mention him tbh
2020-10-31 23:48
2 replies
kqly didnt cheat in pro games he used cheats in mm in his free time and thats when he got vacced
2020-11-01 13:52
1 reply
yes this is true but he still is big Cheator
2020-11-01 20:41
#84
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Canada f0rkb0mb
the movement was harder in 1.6 in csgo everyone is doing "crouch pick and spray and pray" in 1.6 you would be dead doing that
2020-10-31 20:51
CS:GO: movement is worse and easier accuracy while movement/jumping is higher awp is A LOT easier you can abuse peeker advantage
2020-10-31 22:44
29 replies
"awp is a lot easier in cs go" dude u dont even played cs 1.6 lmao. Awp of 1.6 had 100% accuracy firing quickscopes, the movement also wasn't so tough as it's in cs go. "you can abuse peeker advantage" once again I think u never touched cs 1.6, players can DUCK on every peek, even with an awp.
2020-10-31 22:49
28 replies
Tbh I think you're the one here who hasn't played CS 1.6.
2020-10-31 22:49
20 replies
lmaooo awp is easier on CS GO omegalul. while in 1.6: awpers can peek ducking and shooting quickscopes with 100% accuracy a lot more faster than is csgo
2020-10-31 22:52
19 replies
Quickscopes are easier in CS:GO even if they're not 100% precise.
2020-10-31 22:59
18 replies
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL wtf i'm reading awp in 1.6 has instant scope, is lighter, you just lack knowledge.
2020-10-31 23:02
17 replies
You're just noob who never played 1.6.
2020-10-31 23:03
16 replies
0 arguments lmao cry more dude, go play 1.6 for the first time please, before you start saying shit that you don't know about
2020-10-31 23:04
1 reply
What arguments? You clearly haven't played 1.6 or launched it few times in best case.
2020-10-31 23:07
#245
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Europe Vallon4
Imagine arguing 1.6 AWP is harder than CSGO AWP, lmao as if. Just accept you're wrong.
2020-11-01 16:53
13 replies
Another clown who played 1.6 for maybe a year prior to CS:GO release...
2020-11-01 16:56
11 replies
#252
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Europe Vallon4
??? I played it for 4 years non-stop. As the guy already said, 1.6 had instant scope, is lighter and 100% precise, unlike CSGO AWP. No momentary blur or anything like that as well. Just stfu and go play your little game again.
2020-11-01 16:58
10 replies
What game? I play CS:GO lul and I can easily rekt bots like with awp.
2020-11-01 16:59
9 replies
#255
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Europe Vallon4
No arguments? Thought so. Keep thinking you're right.
2020-11-01 17:01
8 replies
What arguments, lol? Everyone who played CS 1.6 and CS:GO knows that awping is easier in CS:GO because CS:GO is easier game than CS 1.6 overall.
2020-11-01 17:04
7 replies
#257
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Europe Vallon4
Everyone? Because I'm literally seeing only you. Stop dancing around the issue, dumbass nostalgia fan. 1.6 had instant scope, is lighter and is 100% precise, unlike CSGO AWP. No momentary blur or anything like that as well. It is objectively easier, MUCH easier. Go play your easy little game now, I know you don't want it to be considered easier than GO because that would make you seem like a noob, but it is, and you are. :)
2020-11-01 17:07
6 replies
You're right. I meant everyone who played CS 1.6 and understands the game and its mechanics. Even in this thread some people say they played 1.6 but at the same time they claim that movement is better and harder in CS:GO, OMEGALUL.
2020-11-01 17:17
movement is not given in csgo - awp is way harder in 1.6 due to being a easy target cause TAGGING was a thing. Now you can just repeek all the time while getting hit and you can escape you had to play ther AWP way smarter in 1.6 than in GO. The quickscopes were OP in 1.6 meanwhile the NOSCOPES are OP in csgo you hit them pretty easy on a close distance wich is almost comparable to quickscopeing. Spraypatterns were way better in 1.6 and easier compared to CSGO - one thing wich was pretty good in 1.6 was TAPPING and the FIRST BULLET accuracy wich is shit in csgo so you have to spray way more often than in 1.6.
2020-11-01 19:47
4 replies
+1 u cant dancing around with awp in 1.6. u miss once u dead. Awp in 1.6 was way more harder
2020-11-01 23:38
#306
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United Kingdom novaseer
tagging has gotten me killed in GO so many times what are you on bro
2020-11-02 00:14
2 replies
there is no tagging in GO in 1,6 you got tagged by a glock you couldnt move
2020-11-02 00:41
1 reply
Hes just a russian cave troll just ignore hes desperate for attention mens))))
2020-11-02 14:34
quickscope is easier on 1.6 with awp, movement is higher too, but angles, walls (so many wallbangs) and duck makes awp harder than csgo, but still 1.6 awp easier than awp on csgo
2020-11-01 19:55
"DUCK on very peek" doesn't matter when you can just wallbang any box/edge.
2020-10-31 22:52
6 replies
dude u never touched 1.6 lmao every pro ducked and every high skill cs 1.6 player stay ducking everytime to get an advantage peeking. I'm not discussing this anymore since it's a basic fundamental.
2020-10-31 22:54
5 replies
You're dumb. Double-duck advantage in CS 1.6 wasn't even close to peeker advantage in CS:GO when you don't need to do ANYTHING to have advantage.
2020-10-31 22:57
4 replies
my god already lost your mind saying bs lol. learn about it watching to Neo playing: youtu.be/Q5YHd6aEbQM?t=32 have a nice day lmao awp is a lot easier in csgo
2020-10-31 23:00
3 replies
The video you linked didn't prove any of your words.
2020-10-31 23:00
2 replies
oh yes, someone jumping 4 meters and still having 100% precision with instant scope while sometimes ducking to get advantage. you're refusing proof, and I refuse to argue with such a stupid guy.
2020-10-31 23:04
1 reply
Oh yes, watch coldzera mirage, s1mple cache, kqly d2 highlights and stfu already. There is no proof for any of your words in the video, so there is nothing to refuse.
2020-10-31 23:05
apparenatly u didnt watch niko cuz niko played 1.6... so here is a clip youtube.com/watch?v=FPjPiS-qC0k
2020-11-01 03:30
#195
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Netherlands PasscaLl
Wait till you play against pros they will easily rekt you. When spectating it seems easy but trust me it isnt
2020-11-01 14:01
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#240
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
pros commited their life to cs when they were 8 played every single day till 30 years old, if i did that im sure i had solid chance to become pro at some point. Its not that hard if you get strong opponents from day 1 learning can be so much quicker then
2020-11-01 15:35
skill in cs 1.3 was even higher
2020-10-31 15:21
1 reply
cs dz more skiller
2020-10-31 22:35
Ok boomer
2020-10-31 15:21
#4
Xyp9x | 
Indonesia Alvi15
delusional boomer
2020-10-31 15:22
4 replies
#54
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
he's right, in cs 1.6 every gun had 12 different spray patterns and aiming was much harder, cs go is much easier and user friendly
2020-10-31 16:22
1 reply
Its only "harder" because its rng city. Tapping was rng, spraying was rng.
2020-11-01 00:06
+1
2020-10-31 21:57
+1
2020-10-31 22:46
anyone cars? NO
2020-10-31 15:22
7 replies
#55
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
YES
2020-10-31 16:23
3 replies
NO
2020-10-31 16:30
2 replies
I_car
2020-10-31 21:47
1 reply
menss((
2020-11-01 06:34
Yes.
2020-10-31 22:48
1 reply
ok
2020-11-01 06:35
I_car))
2020-11-02 04:32
But shooting in 1.6 is really awful.
2020-10-31 15:23
#8
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
I know many people impressed by todays pros ofcourse there are some nice plays from them. But people who would say i cant beat todays pros are same people who get angry when they meet higher ranked players :) its not that hard to become pro if you find best opponents in the world
2020-10-31 15:24
This is your brain on nostalgia.
2020-10-31 15:24
25 replies
#14
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
its really not, i see people call oh, this player is best in the world , this player is best in the world, and boom they lose against second tier teams 2-0, in cs 1.6 i doubt this would happen in cs go its like normal thing
2020-10-31 15:27
24 replies
lol that just suggests that the average skill level of GO is higher than 1.6 if lower ranked teams are able to upset higher ranked ones. Not to mention that 99% of tournaments were LANs, meaning less opportunities for outsiders to compete.
2020-10-31 15:33
23 replies
#19
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
I dont know i might agree second tier teams in csgo are quite good skill maybe. But TOP TIER 1.6 is the toughest level of cs. After all cs 1.6 probably wasnt as popular
2020-10-31 15:36
22 replies
???? If there's less players playing then there's less competition overall which means that the skill level is limited to the level of the teams that are playing. CS:GO has the advantage of being more accessible due to how online CS has progressed as well as developing the meta several years beyond CS 1.6 (aka better competition and a higher skill level).
2020-10-31 15:39
21 replies
#23
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
No man sounds good doesnt work, doesnt matter the competition number one always have their own thing going on, doesnt matter how good 30th player of the world is for mr number one he just doesnt care, for generations to come he will be remembered <3 NEO
2020-10-31 15:42
20 replies
OK, now I really don't know what's going on.
2020-10-31 15:42
19 replies
#25
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Im not saying cs go doesnt have good players im sure there is someone who can play but 1.6 definately can top that.
2020-10-31 15:44
18 replies
Well, I respectfully disagree due to the reasons I've given above.
2020-10-31 15:46
2 replies
#30
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Competition doesnt matter that much for top group of players they have their own thing going on they dont care about what mortals are doing. For example my country had cool fifa game champion he quit that game basicly just played with his 2 noob friends sometimes they probably got better. In couple years i became best player in my country When me and ex champ met for a game i had no chance to beat him still
2020-10-31 15:49
1 reply
I see.
2020-10-31 15:50
why a cs 1.6 legend don't dominates cs go scene, but happens the contrary? look at neo, cogu, maikelele... all of them got murdered by competition
2020-10-31 15:51
14 replies
"cs 1.6 is the top tier of cs". S1mple is the most skilled player of all time, there's no doubt about this
2020-10-31 15:53
1 reply
no that is still f0rest
2020-10-31 23:07
#35
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Thats like saying to Usain Bolt after he retires why he doesnt dominate anymore, when still his records are not broken. Thats the point i think even 1.6 players cant repeat what their did ... they had their moment and its gone it cant be repeated by cs go players or even themselves
2020-10-31 15:54
11 replies
what a stupid comparison lmao, when people get older, the muscles atrophy and their performance falls in a sport like that. csgo is different... you move a mouse dude. And cs 1.6 legends are still in an very capable age, look at maikelele, he is 29...
2020-10-31 15:57
2 replies
and yet everyone declines hard. only few remain close to top of their peak levels
2020-10-31 23:09
#307
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United Kingdom novaseer
reactions, co-ordination and shit slow down as you age as well
2020-11-02 00:17
"it can't be repeated by csgo players" noone, even in this amateurs 1.6 competitions ever reached S1mple dominance and skill. +++ NEO played well csgo, until it got more competitive. He still plays professionaly but has a 0.90 rating hltv.org/player/165/neo#tab-infoBox
2020-10-31 16:06
7 replies
#40
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Sure Nice wasting lead against astralis 2-0 , three lost maps in row couldnt kill standing still player with awp i had to rewind live in slow motion because i thought it was not possible to miss these shots, and second tier teams s1mple lost later..... following your logic someone from team Forze is best in the world also :D or virtus pro,., Is it facecrack(forze) or jerry(forze) which one is this unbelievable player
2020-10-31 16:01
6 replies
idk what youre talking about, you're doubting s1mple skill because of one shot? Dude I think you started following cs scene some months ago Talking about titles, dupreeh, gla1ve, dev1ce and xyp9x are the core of the most dominant and victorious team ever (astralis), winning many majors and impactful titles in a row.
2020-10-31 16:06
5 replies
#45
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
there is no reason to argue about this anymore for cs go pro to agree that 1.6 level is higher is same like today, For local food seller to say yes my product isnt as good as competitors who is 5 meters away.
2020-10-31 16:06
4 replies
you just talk nonsense stuff lmao, i'm done. Cs prize was way lower, the competition was weak compared to how many competitive teams we have today. Those Cs 1.6 players can't play at a tier1 level today, why??? If the skill on 1.6 was higher? Nothing prevents them of reaching it.
2020-10-31 16:10
3 replies
#52
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Lol for me that prize money was lower is huge fact why its better, cs is supposed to be for fun not for money. Like football Im sure legends like David Becham, Ronaldinho were not getting paid as todays stars but they became icons of the game.
2020-10-31 16:12
2 replies
lmao wtf, lower prize was better
2020-10-31 21:38
1 reply
He got lost as hell, it's really hard to be that stupid that I'm sure he's trolling.
2020-10-31 23:08
the skill ceiling between 1.6 and go is incomparable
2020-10-31 15:24
6 replies
#12
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
ye 1.6 was no ceiling, Cs go pro games feels like master guardian rank is their ceiling
2020-10-31 15:26
5 replies
#28
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Lithuania disesion
+1
2020-10-31 15:47
+1
2020-10-31 23:09
2 replies
^^^^^ All of these are delusional boomers
2020-11-01 00:08
1 reply
that russian is a no masker, I said to him "you gotta wear a mask so that your immunologically weak dad wont die since you gave the disease to him" His reply was "if my dad is gonna die due to covid et him wear the mask why should i make myself uncomfortable by wearing a mask when im the healthy one and he is the unhealthy one with a bad immune system" I mean when someone is this stupid you cant expect them to think properly in other aspects
2020-11-01 15:00
Find 1.6 very easy compared to csgo.
2020-11-01 19:59
Idk about 1.6 but I find source very easy after playing GO.
2020-10-31 15:27
#16
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Bulgaria Norwenn
No scoping was way easier in 1.6, miss those days on awp_india
2020-10-31 15:33
12 replies
#60
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
nah no scoping is way harder in 1.6 it goes all over the map lol
2020-10-31 16:35
10 replies
#70
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Bulgaria Norwenn
I had the habit of pressing both mouse buttons and it worked better in 1.6 than in csgo. But yeah, maybe a clean left click may have been harder back then
2020-10-31 20:27
Slut, you're wrong.
2020-10-31 21:48
8 replies
He's so deluded it even amazes me. Just look at his other replies in the thread.
2020-10-31 23:04
1 reply
Expected from his name and flair
2020-10-31 23:25
nah im right, someone who has 4k hrs in cs go and 3k in 1.6
2020-11-01 13:31
5 replies
Nope
2020-11-01 13:46
4 replies
yeah
2020-11-01 14:34
3 replies
Nah
2020-11-01 18:07
2 replies
yush
2020-11-01 19:02
1 reply
Stop it bro
2020-11-01 19:21
quick scoping not no scoping, noscopes were pure randomness u nub
2020-11-01 20:00
#17
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Australia Ataynu5
The physics of 1.6 was different; nevertheless the skill is much higher now and I think most if not all pro's would agree. Micro-improvements over time add up. Performance is always moving toward the most optimal possible because that's what competition does.
2020-10-31 15:34
4 replies
#20
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Sureeeeeeeeeeeee :))))) much higher now, have you ever heared about a dude named Michael Jordan little off topic but your competition what it does bit is little hillarious. And lets say Federer, Nadal this level probably wont be ever achieved in basketball in tennis no matter how much good strong competition is this is as high as it gets for those two sports.
2020-10-31 15:39
2 replies
#65
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Australia Ataynu5
No those players will be exceeded eventually, just as someone will run faster than Usain Bolt.
2020-10-31 19:32
1 reply
+1, they'll just find a way to make doping stronger and in the end Usain Bolt will be forgotten when his records get beaten.
2020-10-31 23:03
pure mechanical aim skill and grenade usage only, everything else is worse, because it's not as important in csgo
2020-11-01 20:02
why people forget 1.6 was a different game altogether .. different movement , no mollies , different flashes and smokes , different spray , different awps and the players got smarter the more they played so there is less of chance to make the same plays NO DISRESPECT TO 1.6 Legends !!!
2020-10-31 15:36
#29
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United States ekwi
no lol 1.6 players were never good. look how poorly they all perform in csgo clearly the younger players nowadays are miles ahead of what the older players can ever achieve
2020-10-31 15:48
11 replies
stoopid
2020-10-31 15:52
#37
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
I think cs 1.6 dont care about cs go anymore they are getting old , will see how many 32 year olds who started with cs go, how they gonna end up. Im 28 and i think im way too old for this game and i see some 1.6. age 31 competing in second tier atleast. I seen f0rest play no matter how much he talks that cs is still important for him , i think he gives 10 percent of effort of what he did in last version
2020-10-31 15:58
3 replies
#46
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
ur 28 stop watching cs get a life
2020-10-31 16:08
2 replies
#48
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
bro cs is life
2020-10-31 16:09
1 reply
#51
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
fair enough cant argue with that
2020-10-31 16:11
#56
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
cs 1.6 players were way better than cs go players. You sound like someone who never even played cs 1.6, every gun had 12 differnt spray patterns, in cs go you have only 1 spray pattern for a gun. Aiming was also a lot harder and you couldn't customize crosshair and shit like that. You play with one bigass crosshair and you make the most out of it. And what you said also isnt true lmao, because the best cs 1.6 players like f0rest, GeT RiGhT, neo were dominating the first years of cs go. But they got old, Neo is 33 now, f0rest 32, GTR 30. The more you age the slower your reflexes get, plus you dont just sit and play on the pc all day lmao, you have to take care of a family.
2020-10-31 16:29
2 replies
#61
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
lol thanks i even forgot forest gtr dominated it seemed just normal fact, but its pretty weird if cs go players much better why cs 1.6 squad still dominating. And ye cs 1.6 was harder to shoot, to hit shot all over map was impossible but in csgo seems weird if you dont do that shot happen, only thing you cant do in cs go shoot while running but even this would be possible especially with right gun
2020-10-31 16:39
you mean way better at playing 1.6 era coumter-strike than csgo era counter-strike? yeah, no one is going to argue that. the game is more nuanced today than just seeing who is better at winning aim duels and multikills. now its all about positioning, strategy and economy. honestly if we put some csgo professionals today and transport them back in time they're probably gonna destroy the legends you love so much. the understanding of game theory has improved so much during csgo that even some matchmaking teams would be really good teams in some far gone old era.
2020-10-31 20:47
#59
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
not to mention back in the days pros were playing on CTR monitors, not on 240hz minitors like kids these days, back in the days monitors were shit, mice were shit, fps was shit etc and they still performed so fucking insanely good
2020-10-31 16:32
2 replies
your arguments are bad. it wasn't up until 2012-2016 that actually good LCD monitors started coming to the market that beat the best CRT monitor. actually i could still argue that CRT is far superior at drawing an image faster than a modern monitor. the technology just works differently.
2020-10-31 20:44
we had 180HZ crts with a much more smoother game back then i dont think the HZ is being any sort of reason - servers had better tickrates aswell
2020-11-01 19:51
bro back in my days soldiers who fought in ww2 had more skill than cs 1.6 players
2020-10-31 15:59
6 replies
#41
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
false, i think to be successfull first thing you gotta do is realise real guns are opposite of what cs is
2020-10-31 16:03
3 replies
bro back in my day you either had perfect k/d or you'd be dead
2020-10-31 20:03
2 replies
#69
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
my man :D
2020-10-31 20:23
What was your K/D?
2020-11-11 04:15
#308
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United Kingdom novaseer
ww2? pffft peasant, ww1 had bolt-action rifles which required far better aim to use correctly ww2 zoomers just got boosted by semi-autos and smgs
2020-11-02 00:21
1 reply
I fucking hated ww1 because it had a very flawed pay to win design. People from my server would fight with swords and cavalry and then you'd have the assholes coming from EU West servers with firearms and armored vehicles just smurfing on everyone...
2020-11-02 01:52
#44
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Europe dadablyat
people say don't get angry, don't give a fuck but look at this guy, "1.6 had more skill than csgo". Are you fucking retarded? How can that be possible? It's like saying flying a fighter jet nowadays is way easier than those ww2 shit planes? Like the fuck? people are getting dumber and dumber each fucking day
2020-10-31 16:04
33 replies
#47
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Or its like saying First Astronaut mission was not very good as later one because we improving,........ and there are like 20 dead astronauts by today.
2020-10-31 16:09
31 replies
#50
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Europe dadablyat
that's way more fucking different, those guys focus on making astronaut's job easier what about cs go lol
2020-10-31 16:11
30 replies
#63
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
Have you ever heared about Michael Jordan he literally became icon not of basketball but of sport itself, and you saying older legends cant be good or what. And im Sure before him were some iconic players too but im not that into sports so i cant remember.
2020-10-31 16:57
29 replies
What he is saying that newer talent always gets better and naturally surpasses the old
2020-10-31 20:31
22 replies
#74
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
what im saying doubt that there will be someone better than michael jordan, similiar with cs 1.6 that its next gen doesnt mean they instantly better, im sure there are good players in cs go too but cs 1.6 was op skillwise
2020-10-31 20:33
21 replies
It kinda does, these guys like mj, schumacher are legends because how hard they dominated their eras, but newer eras best players are better if you actually understand the sport. Thats why you see records being broken every time in every olympic sport
2020-10-31 20:42
20 replies
#83
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
olympics is different because there are many not popular sports and its easy to break record by fraction but leading sports achievement hardly can be broken. Ye i dont know much about f1 maybe there are better cars now so easier to look great, similiar to cs added precision
2020-10-31 20:50
19 replies
Pls, we see stars in nba change how the game is being played, in football we have players like ronaldo and messi, look at boxing, mma literally everything Every single era gets stronger and better talent. Look at the gameplay at the start of csgo and now, literally any tier 1 pro and team would shit on the old era of players
2020-10-31 21:50
18 replies
#97
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
boxing? you mean there is better someone than ali?
2020-10-31 22:19
5 replies
You telling me there is not???? Do you watch boxing?
2020-10-31 22:28
4 replies
#100
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
i dont watch much boxing but i doubt that this era is somehow better. You just give better camera angle better quality video and think oh its all better the players are better :D
2020-10-31 22:31
3 replies
You dont look at the flashiness of the fighters you look at their fundamentals holy shit what are you talkingabout
2020-10-31 22:34
2 replies
I can't believe you can carry on arguing with him after one of his stupid arguments: "olympics is different because there are many not popular sports and its easy to break records".
2020-10-31 22:56
1 reply
The guy even said that he doesnt play cs, but i still have nothing better to do so i might as well try to save 1 person from becoming a reddit retard
2020-10-31 22:58
#99
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
would shiit on old era players lol :D s1mple cant hold lead of 2-o in final lose against some no names forze and virtus pro later, Lifespan of someone like perfecto and boomich against cs 1.6 pros would be 0.1 sec after seeing the enemy who was good in 1.6. And when you say shiit on old era. You probably take This era top players when they on top form against 1.6 washed up players. You dont even compare top form 1.6 against top form cs go to make it fair
2020-10-31 22:28
11 replies
Tell me what is your elo in csgo cause this just sounds retarded at this point
2020-10-31 22:32
10 replies
#103
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
i dont even play cs i dont care man i just say from spectator point of view
2020-10-31 22:34
9 replies
Then why do you act like you understand anything about the game wtf, if you dont understand anything about the game you wont tell me why a player is good or not by just watching his gameplay
2020-10-31 22:36
8 replies
#107
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
oh big deal you reached gold nova 2 now you can tell everything about cs :D
2020-10-31 22:37
7 replies
Im level 10 but k
2020-10-31 22:39
6 replies
#113
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
saying cs go are better players you are king of comedy knowing that cs go players are just 1.6 players sometimes not like they couldnt make that change. 1.6 were dominant even at cs go saying csgo is better you must remove f0rest gtr n0thing probably even niko they were just too young to be a pros but still played 1.6
2020-10-31 22:45
5 replies
Yes and? We are talking about eras, those kids couldnt play at 1.6 tourneys but when they grew up and were able to play they performed better than the older generation, so whats your point? There are many kids that play football and basketball now but they havent grown up yet and cant play nba but when they will, we will see more talent and better gameplay
2020-10-31 23:01
4 replies
#151
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
This era of cs is not that good im sorry just because you achieved level 10 in something it doesnt become better. Second some team becomes number one it loses to second tier instantly all year long this happening right now. If we remove 1.6 pros from cs go half popularity probably gone from cs go because simply level not that great
2020-10-31 23:09
3 replies
The level of play is easily higher, start playing cs get good at it and you might understand that, now you just dont see if a player is playig well or not, you dont understand what are good fundamentals and dont understand if someone made a good play or not, it feels like in your mind you think that a team is better because of their dominance not because of their gameplay, it also feels like you would think that every play that a player made where he got kills is a good play. 1.6 pros are barely competitive in csgo with some exceptions and thats not what even made csgo popular.
2020-10-31 23:43
2 replies
cs 1.6 is way ahead than csgo. It is better game in every aspect in terms of skill and stuff. Csgo is only winning in graphics
2020-11-11 03:07
1 reply
When did you last play cs1.6? Also this talk was about the players not the game itself
2020-11-11 03:30
Basketball barely changed. There's a huge difference in gameplay as well as esports scene of 1.6 and csgo
2020-10-31 20:36
5 replies
It clearly did you are delusional or have never played baskeball in a team, watch older eras of nba and watch the current one, the players in the older days werent even close to the talent and physique of the current players, the current players now would shit on the older eras if they could time travel.
2020-10-31 21:58
4 replies
#160
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
sure would shiit on michael jordan your jokes are hilarious but you still wont go that far in comedy i think. And i hear a lot people saying s1mple so great but he cant even make his own team win something always losing against bigger names.
2020-10-31 23:23
3 replies
First of all this is a team game, idk if you heard this phrase but "good players win games good teams win tournaments" i tried saving you from becoming a delusional reddit user but i guess there is no saving you, you dont play any sports, you dont play any esport games yet somehow in your mind you think you understand more than me.
2020-10-31 23:39
2 replies
#179
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
final fact look youtube.com/watch?v=FPjPiS-qC0k we take this cs 1.6 star out of cs go ... AND you have pro league with players from lem to global elite. If we take cs 1.6 stars offline from cs go VERY beggining, probably current prize money instead 1mil for winner team would be 100k best case scenario and you say if im not wrong that cs go would shiit on 1.6 players. CS 1.6 made history those players made 1million prize money possible.. old legends made this into a sport from no one to learn cs go players would not shiit on 1.6 players, but just eat shiit for a food because nothing else to eat :) Literally there is no 1.6 there is nothing to learn from cs moves and basics. I imagine if there is no 1.6 - global elite would mean you sign professional team contract exact moment you reach that stupid rank:DD
2020-11-01 04:03
1 reply
Im not talking about what they did for the game or the sports though? Im talking about if the newer era of players are better against the older ones. That was what all the discusion was about, stop mixing those things up now.
2020-11-01 05:02
#57
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
#54 #56 ofc its possible
2020-10-31 16:30
#62
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
And by the way people who say cs go are better players was not possible in cs 1.6 to hit shot all over map in cs go is absolutely normal for that to happen pretty weird if you miss actually.
2020-10-31 16:40
cs 1.5, 1.6 days :( My childhood in a gaming parlor with 32 players all in one server on lan. playing poolday, aztec , dust2, prodigy , iceworld awp_india ;)
2020-10-31 17:20
Every word u typed in your thread is true. +1 CS 1.6 > CSGO
2020-10-31 20:28
Cs1.6 is not harder than csgo, it feels like you guys never actually went back and played cs1.6 recently.
2020-10-31 20:33
1 reply
#87
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
how you think its possible to play without any skins?
2020-10-31 21:06
HeatoN wasn't even top100 in 1.6
2020-10-31 20:35
6 replies
#86
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
ye because he was top 1
2020-10-31 21:04
5 replies
Don't be silly. He was shit in 1.6. One of the lowest skilled pros at that time ever.
2020-11-01 23:17
4 replies
#296
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
sure man, he and his teamates made sk and nip clans popular lowest skiled pros lol xD
2020-11-01 23:24
3 replies
You didn't watch HeatoN in 1.6 . He was by far the worst on all of those teams. He was elite in earlier versions.
2020-11-02 15:38
2 replies
#330
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
well its not easy to best player in team when you have spawn as teamate who is probably best cs player of all time or neo
2020-11-02 15:47
1 reply
He was one of the worst pros in Sweden on a good team in 1.6. SpawN actually replaced him on his own team if I am not mistaken. Been a while.
2020-11-02 19:39
can people please stop making these boomer threads
2020-10-31 21:44
4 replies
Just people that can't see further than their feeling of nostalgia.
2020-10-31 22:51
boomers > zoomers. but go play your fortnite, fall guys and minecraft. dont forget to listen to some rap music with meaningless lyrics
2020-10-31 23:36
2 replies
30? 31? how old man?
2020-10-31 23:50
Bro theres no way you are above 15 Real boomers dont even use the words boomer and zoomer
2020-11-02 14:48
#96
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Argentina atriX^
Objective opinion from a long-time 1.6 player and now CSGO. In terms of raw skill, 1.6 is superior in my eyes. There was way more emphasis on aim and movement skills. That's not to say matches where only aim duels but the level of utility gameplay wasn't as big. CSGO brought a lot more of a strategic element to gameplay in the name of utility and map design. While I do think that maps were better in the sense that they were way less cluttered and open (i.e inferno), the raised skyboxes of CSGO maps bring a whole new layer of skill that pros must learn. CSGO also made most of the other guns relevant while in 1.6 it was always the same 3 pistols, 4 rifles, and the AWP.
2020-10-31 22:15
1.6 is a shit game. and i have more than 20k hours played.
2020-10-31 22:39
1 reply
#130
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
im not even talking about it i agree 1.6 seems outdated no need to call good game trash tbh. Im just saying class of top tier was better in old days.
2020-10-31 22:53
1.6 required real skills No wtf shots, to kill you needed to have skill.
2020-10-31 22:47
>he's failing nowadays Because your average players are way better than back then. /close
2020-10-31 22:50
1 reply
#123
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
sure man when average silver ranked players spends more time on cs than ex pro im sure that pro wont be that good
2020-10-31 22:52
#127
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Tunisia Wave1337
Stopped reading after "I think i lost half braincells".
2020-10-31 22:52
2 replies
As if he had many.
2020-10-31 22:52
1 reply
#131
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Brazil mig1
0.5 braincells moment
2020-10-31 22:53
they are the same Game Mode on 2 different Engines The Movement back then was INSANE. CS:GO is a Joke compared to what was possible man i wish i would find this Video where a Guy was surfing between the 2 Train Ladders on B.
2020-10-31 23:11
1 reply
just do it yourself is pretty easy
2020-11-01 19:53
Imagine compare different games :D 1.6 and GO are connected only by the name and type of the game. Rest things are similar like guns, maps etc. but they never be the same. 1.6 players must again learn a lot new staff to be pro. I love both games, but compare is just uselles. (Sory for bad englando)
2020-10-31 23:16
1 reply
+1 too. The games r too different to compare them
2020-11-01 23:42
i feel like the skillcap was much higher in 1.6 since you could be more mobile and use your movement better, it was based on raw skill like Quake. i feel like "noobs" still can be good in CS GO since the skillcap is lower. but it's hard to compare since GO is more strategic and the maps are very cluttered, it's a complete different game. but playing it online with "lag compensation" etc making me feel the game is kinda broken (feels like the ex_interp-bug in earlier CS-verions) and it's very hard to determine exactly where the footsteps are in CSGO compare to 1.6. shooting through walls isn't even a thing in CS:GO, i feel like that's were a thing that required a ton of skills (gamesense) and was a largely part in 1.6
2020-10-31 23:33
1 reply
+1
2020-10-31 23:23
retard stuck in the past any top 1000 csgo player would shit on most top 100 1.6 player
2020-11-01 00:06
5 replies
Any top 1000 basketball player would shit on most top 100 football player.
2020-11-01 08:36
4 replies
10 iq reply
2020-11-01 15:13
3 replies
5iq opinion
2020-11-01 19:54
1 reply
wallah du er stuck i fortia
2020-11-02 09:59
0 iq reply, or it's fine if u rated urself.
2020-11-02 14:28
csgo players play way more then 1.6 players csgo players >>>> 1.6 players anyone higher in the scene will tell you how flawless even t2 players have to be
2020-11-01 03:25
What is this stupid ass pasta?
2020-11-01 03:59
The difference is 1.6 was a far higher individual skilled game. CSGO is a much higher tactical shooter due to its movement and ulitity usage. 1.6 - -Movement manipulation -Wallspamming(no pixel peak awp/shoulder peaks) -Spray patterns ? I guess GO is easier but you can master both games in time -models were faster and smaller/maps were wider. -Sound was much more direct very similar to Valorant. CSGO -Ulitity is the biggest thing in the game, smokes you can one way(no skill) you can smoke defuse(No skill, in 1.6 the bomb light was viable through smokes), Molly the bomb, peak over Molly for vision advantage. The movement is the most jarring thing about CSGO if it only had better movement it would be such a better game, I just hat3 the smoke gameplay so much it's just so cheap. This is not to say that the CSGO pros are shit gamers they're probablt better than 90% 1.6 pros if they were to play 1.6 full time, CSGO just limits your individual level. I would love to see a player like zywoo play 1.6 he would be nuts. Electronic was pretty damn good in the NAVI showmatch. In 10 years time you CSGO fans are going to have the same feeling when valve releases their new CS if they fuck it up, the kids who play the new CS will tell you how shit the graphics were, how shit the sprays were etc, CSGO is becoming old news.
2020-11-01 05:16
2 replies
i never thought the smoke would last, im surprised it's untouched since the game released cause it's so overpowered. smokedefuses feels kinda lame for a competitive game... and yeah, the movement limitation is by far one of the most disturbing things with CSGO which is holding down the skillcap and allows alot of players to be kinda decent at the game. with a more mobile movement many players wouldn't stand a chance.
2020-11-01 14:12
i think csgo is way faster than 1.6 - you cant tagg ppl they just rush you down
2020-11-01 19:55
1.6 was way more demanding on individual skill, CS Go has watered down mechanics and really over powered grenades that allow you to halt off any aggression or executes to get into really good positions where your skill no longer matters just your timing.... whereas in 1.6 you really had to rely on your mechanical skills, map knowledge, movement, brain etc. Movement in CS Go is meaningless tbh a good example of that is Pasha, bot movement his entire career in CS Go but was a top awper at tier 1 level consistently for years... if you have bot movement in 1.6 as an awper you will get punished by a good rifler or opposing awper every round. 1.6 has way less margin for error as well, CS Go in the early stages sure it was a shit ass game with random af mechanics that made no sense at the time but the gunplay was just raw, the company they bought CS Go from made a shit game but they got that one thing right and ofc Valve changed it and watered the game down over time for f2p market any noob shitter can go into a pug and shit on every like the Source days it makes the game popular for the casuals.
2020-11-01 05:31
11 replies
#194
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Russia SW@G_2
cry more
2020-11-01 13:55
9 replies
Nothing to cry about, CS Go had potential but Valve took it into a different direction to get it ready for free 2 play market, the game is casual as fuck for example I can go literally months and months without playing the game and come back and still compete at the same level I was playing previously without even having to practice, the game is just easy it's for casuals, top pros these days are like shitters compared to a prime 1.6 marik or f0rest or NEO etc, not even close to their level and it's not their fault at all it's because CS Go ceiling is so low. People think someone like s1mple is on complete different level then anyone else in CS Go for example when the skill gap between him and the other top pros is so slim if I showed clips of these players without name you wouldn't even know who is playing, in 1.6 the top kids are leaps and bounds above the kids below them it's not even close the skill gap was monstrous and that only happens in a game where the ceiling is infinite.
2020-11-01 14:13
8 replies
#207
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Russia SW@G_2
take a pro at their peak from 1.6 and go and I guarantee you that current pro players will destroy the ones from the past
2020-11-01 14:36
3 replies
Hypothetically, if f0rest or Neo (for example) were born 10-15 years later and their main game was CS:GO, I think today they would compete on the same level as current CS:GO pros.
2020-11-01 14:55
1 reply
#232
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Russia SW@G_2
Yes, because their starting conditions would have been the same as that of today's pros
2020-11-01 14:58
How is that relevant? It's like comparing athletes who played in different era's and trying to say who is the best it's pure retardation. A prime NEO carrying a dead and garbage Polish scene on his back winning biggest titles and majors with incredible individual performance consistently is a complete different level then s1mple 2018 it's not even a debate but why would I compare them it's a different game and era it makes literally no sense so instead we must compare the game they're playing to understand their actual skill level, don't take nothing personal I'm a big fan of all these players including s1mple but there are levels to this shit. The funny thing is even though I grew up on 1.6, I still like CS Go more because it's just so much easier to be good at and I'm older now I don't have the time I invested in 1.6 for CS Go so it benefits me a lot. I like Source a lot as well probably the easiest CS game ever created, literally everyone was beast like on that game because of how incredibly easy it was and it just made for fun gameplay, CS Go is more directly comparable to that type of game than 1.6, it's literally nothing like 1.6.
2020-11-01 16:25
Couldn't agree more.
2020-11-01 14:50
1 reply
Ty m8.
2020-11-01 16:24
+1 csgo is a game made for casual gamers but went competitive cause there was no other substitute after 1.6 died. therefore the competitive gamers been confused by some updates through the years cause valve didn't mainly try to satisfy the competitve scene in the first place. they've been focusing more on casual gamers
2020-11-01 17:02
+1
2020-11-01 23:44
unexpected from fan of s1mple
2020-11-01 19:44
Cry is free Fragile 1.6 fan grill
2020-11-01 05:40
#187
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Netherlands kibitz-
1.6 is ded mens move on
2020-11-01 06:38
Astralis would 16-0 every single 1.6 team if they were to face off today at their peak skill levels. The average HLTV'er today would be a better player than the average 1.6 pro player back in the day. Thats just how sport works. Like Bjorn Borg would get humiliated by a today rank 200 tennis player
2020-11-01 13:49
28 replies
Nope, it doesn't work like that.
2020-11-01 14:47
11 replies
yes it does..
2020-11-01 14:48
2 replies
Maybe if you're 14 y.o.
2020-11-01 14:49
1 reply
i'm 24
2020-11-01 15:06
#247
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Europe Vallon4
It works exactly like that. You seem to be a nostalgia fanboy.
2020-11-01 16:55
actually it does, for example hltv.org/matches/2342965/navi-2010-vs-na..
2020-11-01 19:43
6 replies
"at their peak skill levels"
2020-11-01 19:59
1 reply
2020-11-01 20:58
Showmatch against retired players? OMEGALUL.
2020-11-01 20:08
2 replies
ok so what’s your proof that goes against my claim? many pros have said that the skill level of cs in general is rising. the best players of now would maul the best 1.6 players, look at neo when he came to csgo. a bot even before his retirement from tier 1 this isn’t 2010
2020-11-01 20:58
1 reply
You don't need a proof, you need a common sense. 1. Apparently Na`Vi 2010 were in completely different condition in 2010 compared to 2020. 2. Neither you or me could have a proof of how Na`Vi 2010 or any other team/player from 1.6 era would have performed today in CSGO if they were in the same form as 10 years ago.
2020-11-02 04:19
#293
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Denmark pluskyyy
Nice comparison, expected from murica brain
2020-11-01 21:07
+1
2020-11-01 15:10
Did you ever watched CS 1.6? You think that pro teams just rushed B all the time or what? They had really good tactics, usage of their utilities and teamplay. Astralis are the best team ever regarding their consistance and teamplay that's the true, but to said that they would ez humiliate Pro teams from 1.6 is nonsence.
2020-11-01 15:24
6 replies
no it's not, the general level back then in every game and sport is so vastly inferior to what it is today
2020-11-01 16:32
5 replies
How can you compare classic sport which is basically the same over the decades, but with for sure better technology (so the progress there is logic) and the two "different" PC games where the players had to start to learn it almost from the scratch ? There is for sure difference between the early years of CS:GO and CS 1.6 and in their peek, but overall it is the same. You can say today the CS:GO players have much better support but in the other hand in the CS 1.6 there were much more real teams. Nowadays most of the CS:GO players knows only the faceit and solo plays, so yeah it creates more individual stars, but this is a team game.
2020-11-01 17:23
4 replies
Man compare strats today. BlameF watches 1000 VOD's per day, do you think that was even close to being a thing back then? Compare the aim. Show me any 1.6 player with as good aim as the top 50 players today, it won't be close
2020-11-01 18:01
3 replies
btw ZywOo, Simple or Niko are probably the best even across the CS 1.6, but still it's hard to compare if they did not prove the same in the CS 1.6. In my mind is zet, Sunde, SpawN, Markeloff and for sure many more but I didn't watch guys like F0rest, Get_Right back then. But I can compare e.g our Oskar... in 1.6 he was awesome af with the rifles, deagle also against the top eu teams, only difference in CS:GO is that he switched to awp. He was in the top 20 CS:GO players, but he was always like this also in CS 1.6, because of the talent and passion.
2020-11-01 20:18
#294
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Denmark pluskyyy
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2020-11-01 21:09
1 reply
+1
2020-11-02 04:21
#248
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Europe Vallon4
+111
2020-11-01 16:55
and every 1.6 team would 16:0 astralis in their Game
2020-11-01 23:42
Do u think today's players have faster reactions or evolved brains than 10 years ago? Sorry but humans still make a lot of fails in gaming matches.
2020-11-02 14:39
5 replies
yes, but kids today who grew up playing shooter their whole lives and have insane mechanical skill because of that have a clear advantage of 1.6 players
2020-11-02 15:45
3 replies
So VALORANT players are more better than CSGO players? Logics is very same.
2020-11-02 16:06
2 replies
No? That's not the logic i'm using at all..? Valorant kids grew up playing shooters their whole life, thats why they can be nuts, same goes for CSGO players. On the other hand 1.6 players didn't have the same gaming experience as kids do today, as gaming was much less available to people, internet was laggy, computers were shit, there were no pro vods to study on youtube etc. There are SO many factors why young players today have a much bigger advantage.
2020-11-02 16:37
1 reply
I don't agree with u. You can't compare VOD and demos. Pro players watched demos in 2005 and they watch them today. CS 1.6 gaming experience was a mandatory visiting a ton of LAN tourneys. To play a big event, a team should win their city's LAN and country's LAN every time. CSGO player doesn't visit LAN, he plays only online pugs in stuck against solo for-fun (also boosted) players and waits for when a friend from a pro team invites him. For example. Why does ex-top 1 FACEIT player ex4mple not qualify to a tier 3 tourney? Him, his teammates and many other SUPER players have a high KD, a high winrate and 4-5-6-7K matches but every year MAJORS still have same names like Astralis, NAVI etc. Or 4x champion of FPL Lobanjica. Is he really good?
2020-11-02 22:53
Today's players are dissaster, inconsistent af. Only few players are showing great professionalism like S1mple, allu
2020-11-11 02:58
#193
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Russia SW@G_2
Maybe 1.6 was the "harder" game but take any pro at their peak from 1.6 and put them against a current pro and they will get destroyed.
2020-11-01 13:54
2 replies
+1 i remember Threat saying that the players today are way better
2020-11-01 16:57
1 reply
Reaction, communication or tactics? Write the differences please. Everyone wants to know what 2020 players do what 2010 players didn't do.
2020-11-02 14:47
+1
2020-11-01 14:09
Make a claim, show absolutely no evidence in support of your claim, just random ramblings on what streams one watches. /shitthread
2020-11-01 14:16
3/8
2020-11-01 14:42
#231
ISSAA | 
Morocco 7777
yrs
2020-11-01 14:55
The only thing who is easier in cs1.6 than csgo IS THE MOVEMENTS. I was a cs1.6 player and I was doing impossible strafes pretty easily Like This: youtube.com/watch?v=J9sEv3HNifQ We call that SGS
2020-11-01 15:17
#246
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Europe Vallon4
2/8 CSGO is the harder game and the best CSGO players would completely demolish the best 1.6 players. There is no room for comparison.
2020-11-01 16:54
8 replies
ahahahahaha 12yo spotted
2020-11-01 16:58
6 replies
#254
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Europe Vallon4
Nostalgia fag spotted. 1.6 players are nowhere near CSGO players, nor was the game harder. Scene has never been more competitive than now, 1.6 players would never survive in the current climate.
2020-11-01 17:00
5 replies
oh you win man ,im so sorry
2020-11-01 17:09
#262
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
if we remove 1.6 players niko f0rest gtr n0thing etc etc, cs go would be left with some trashy players hardly would we see difference between top tier and second tier. If we take cs 1.6 neo when he was young into cs go we would not need to ask whos best in the world this s1mple is joke cant beat third tier teams losing against astralis while having 2-0 thats mentality of a bot and those missed kills with awp oh my god :)
2020-11-01 18:05
2 replies
hltv.org/matches/2342965/navi-2010-vs-na.. nt, csgo players are way better than 1.6
2020-11-01 19:42
1 reply
yeah please. lets use fun matches for this
2020-11-01 23:47
i love it when people make statements about 2 different Games. You dont even fucking know who would have trouble adapting to the Game Only Idiots who never played oldschool CS will bash it
2020-11-01 23:56
Wrong
2020-11-01 23:59
cs go has everything better except mouvements and mouvements are a big part of a game, csgo feel like source with 1.6 weapons (sort of ) but 1.6 was way more than just the weapon control, movement were a big part of what make this game way better than source... basically 1.6 needed just new graphic and fixing weapons randomness plus csgo nades and it was the best game ever .. csgo mouvement really feel made by and for noobs
2020-11-01 19:36
1 reply
Bad london but good point.
2020-11-01 20:10
In times of 1.5/1.6 the game was not as hard-focused on strats as it is now. There were no molotovs and smokes were nearly useless because if you crouched and looked slightly downwards you could see through. Today, you can play on pro level with "good enough" aim and good understeanding of the game. In 1.5 and 1.6 you HAD to have godlike aim to be able to make a name for yourself.
2020-11-01 19:36
2020-11-01 19:38
signed up 2020-07-04 0/8, why did navi 2010 get shat on in csgo then while navi 2020 managed to take a map off them in 1.6
2020-11-01 19:40
4 replies
#273
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
cs go navi is better?
2020-11-01 19:46
3 replies
half the maps were played in 1.6. navi 2020 made navi 2010 go to double ot to win tuscan and convincingly won 1.6 train. and they destroyed navi 2010 in csgo, it wasn’t even close hltv.org/matches/2342965/navi-2010-vs-na..
2020-11-01 19:48
2 replies
#277
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
forze and vp shiit on navi not long ago why is that
2020-11-01 19:53
1 reply
0/8 comeback from third world country astralis lost to ence once so ence > astralis? vp and forze aren’t bad teams lmao and in an online cis derby match anything can happen. but signup date checks out
2020-11-01 19:56
yrs
2020-11-01 23:59
even Edward said that cs:go is harder than 1.6 :D
2020-11-02 00:06
1 reply
#310
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
i doubt u can shoot all day over map longest parts and 0 kills in cs go if you miss few times i will be called silver, and thats not the topic i was talking about
2020-11-02 00:56
Markeloff 100%
2020-11-02 02:39
Love to DM in 1.6. Main rifles have unbeatable feeling
2020-11-02 04:29
Whole thread is dumb. If it was a 1v1 game then sure, but since it is a team game, I am going to have to disagree very much.Hmmm, nades were shit in 1.6. They had way less impact on the game. Also, cs:go puts more emphasis on aim, and less on other things like movement. This also helps with the case that cs:go is a harder game, because so many more guns are viable. cs:go has a valve mm system which means more players player, thus more competition. One last point, which is the biggest one. If 1.6 was harder, then pros going to this game would still be the best players still. They should have maxed out anything that was hard with cs:go from the start since you think it was harder. Even years after cs:go came out, most players from 1.6 had worse aim than the newer people, so once the new players had game sense it was over.
2020-11-02 04:58
1 reply
NiP dominated the game when it first came out with majority 1.6-players, prolly the longest "era" in CSGO-history? VeryGames (bunch of sourceplayers) struggled hard against former 1.6-players. now these players are a bit too old and the younger ones been catching up, nothing remarkable really. we've seen this in all kinda sports. and the youngsters who have grown up with the game have obviously easier to adapt to the game and are "zeroed" in on how the game should be played, unlike older players who are left in old ruts from earlier versions. "you can't teach old dogs to sit"-kinda. youngsters have higher development potential and overall better conditions to be a more skilled player today. and movement was a big part of 1.6, which former 1.6 players don't really have no use in CSGO, it's like cutting 50% of their skill just there. some of your arguments are kinda odd, like wtf have the matchmaking-system do to with which game is harder? even tho i respect your opinion and i'm not saying 1.6 is harder, just saying.
2020-11-02 12:40
If you actually used your brain you would have realised that csgo has a higher skill ceiling because; -more people means fewer% can go to the top level which is basically natural selection and the stronK survive -and if you watched pro play its more about tactical play and not about just a giant 1v1 aim map -theres way more pressure on 250k dollar tournaments rather than 20k dollar ones -also because of the 1st thing there are like no mistakes in pro play for other pros to make a play These are my arguments waiting for your rebuttal
2020-11-02 14:55
cs 1.6 is way-way better game in every skill aspect. Required more skill in every aspect. how? U couldnt be proffesional with 1-2 years playing, while in csgo we have good examples for people who became proffs with 1-2 years of playing and their previous game was Cod, Starcraft or some non-Cs game. Bytheway CSGO scene is dissaster after 2016.
2020-11-11 03:00
Agree with you
2020-11-11 02:59
yes /closed
2020-11-11 03:31
1 reply
#343
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
bad timing there was some pretty good games last days astralis and g2 showed some class ^^
2020-11-11 03:38
I didn't play 1.6 much, I played a lot of Source, and still do, they're really similar. And generally, I must say, that both 1.6 and Source are much, so much harder to master than GO. CS:GO was intentionally made casual player friendly, the spray patterns are easy and always static, movement is smooth and well handled. One thing is truly better in GO is the hitreg, both 1.6 and Source had a terrible one, you'd often see a blood stain but no hits ever recorded. But shooting, by far, very very far was harder in 1.6 and Source and it's not even remotely close.
2020-11-11 03:55
1 reply
#345
Bymas | 
Kuwait roye
ye amateurs dont know that cs go is easier to hit someone.. still older cs pros manage to look supreme, And i was spraying in cs go i thought its pretty hard but just mastered spraying not long ago took me half year of playing where in cs 1.6 maybe it took me 2 years. And others have 10x more fps still not that hard for me to spray after couple months practice
2020-11-11 04:02
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