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CIS Arztyy 
Actually not that bad. They were playing against strong team and they almost got one map. Everyone except floppy were good/decent. Floppy was bad but i don't think that somebody expected that NA player can do something against EU team. They just need more practice and they could easily become a good tier-2 team.
2020-11-12 17:08
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cromen | 
United States JeyyR
Nice only dropped like 6 million for a tier-2 team! Good thing C9 hired HenryG as their GM
2020-11-12 17:09
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yeah bro thanks god we see how shitty of a job he did after the teams first match! Not like it took OG half a year to start doing well (or complexity)
2020-11-12 17:15
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OG doing well means what? Being number 6 and not winning tier 1 events? Also don't remember any of those teams dropping 6 million for a bunch of mid-tier players but I mean you know better than me surely
2020-11-12 17:20
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#17
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United Kingdom SyptechSr
its their first game chill out
2020-11-12 17:22
34 replies
I didn't need to see them play one game to know that they overpaid for these mid-tier players. 6 million for this roster is overpay in a way that only HenryG could manage
2020-11-12 17:25
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#21
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United Kingdom SyptechSr
im just saying its too early to judge
2020-11-12 17:27
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No it's not. You can judge whenever you want and in my opinion, even if this team overachieves their potential, they'll max out at a top 10 team at best who never wins anything significant
2020-11-12 17:28
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#27
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United Kingdom SyptechSr
it is too early to judge theyve had 1 game together and vp have had like 70, obs they will win they have more experience. its like if u put the best of each role in 1 team and put them against some team like big, obs theyll loose, they have had way less time to practice
2020-11-12 17:32
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But C9 didn't put the best in each role on a team. They put mid tier players on tier 1 contracts and tried to pass it off as a "colossus". Again, it's not too early. Anyone with a brain can tell that this team maxes out at top 10 with no significant wins at best. Come back and tell me if I end up being wrong babe <3
2020-11-12 17:33
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#35
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United Kingdom SyptechSr
anyone would give it at least 2 or 3 mths b4 assuming <3
2020-11-12 17:37
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Anyone who is praying that they end up right would give it at least 2 or 3 months b4 assuming you're right. But realistic people who don't find it necessary to watch a team struggle against tier 2/3 teams in flashpoint for the next few months would be able to make this inference without waiting. Again, I urge you to come back and let me know when they crack top 10 or win a tier 1 event bub :)
2020-11-12 17:40
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#82
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United States kami917
Damn dude you sure you shouldn’t be GM for C9 CSGO? Because it sounds like you know a lot more than HenryG, Kassad, and Alex.
2020-11-12 21:10
bruh, this is not the end of C9 team. If things goes out like you said they can always change players. Like woxic is underperforming, you can get someone else. For me in this lineup the best player will be mezii because what i see he is the most hardworking player in the team because he is hungry. es3tag also plays so much so he will get better individually. if they work harder than anyone they can definitely achieve titles because this team has potential. The amount of practice VP had and C9 had shouldnt be compared. I am also disappointed but i know they will get better than losing to VP 2-0 because this team didnt come together for this.
2020-11-12 21:49
lmao someone come get their braindead child who has 1k hours and think they know what they are talking about xD
2020-11-12 18:57
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Flag checks out. Get HenryG's shlong out of your mouth and wake up. If anyone else had spent 6 million on these player's you'd think much differently big man
2020-11-12 18:58
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lmao of course this guys american . ples understand 1k hours doesnt mean u smart <3 NA CS < UKCS
2020-11-12 19:03
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Please understand that HenryG's dong might be too far in your mouth. I think it's affecting your brain <3 UK CS = nonexistent:D UK CS 0 major, NA CS 1 Major :D
2020-11-12 19:04
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lmao please keep entertaining me my friend. teams take time to become good and adapt to their enviroments . look at COL that tiook over half a year lmao
2020-11-12 20:47
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Once again, please come back to me whenever C9 get better than top 10 in the world or win a significant t1 tournament. Until then, keep trying to convince yourself that HenryG knows what he's doing and didn't waste 6 million on these mid tier players for C9 :D
2020-11-12 20:50
mantuu > entire NA scene tbh
2020-11-12 20:49
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Right I forgot that Mantuu is better than twistzz, elige, brehze, etc. You're right and definitely not another delusional UK bot
2020-11-12 20:51
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Only one match to show because that's the only good game mantuu has had :) go back to sucking off HenryG and mantuu pls and thx
2020-11-12 21:00
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burger brain he had 3 good maps burger brain? Consistent 1.20'ish ratings. I'd rather have 1.20 rating all the time than 2.00 rating sometimes hltv.org/stats?event=5207 btw 2nd highest rating to s1mple go cry amerifat
2020-11-12 21:02
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#73 bby
2020-11-12 21:03
we just judging mantuu after one game just like youre judging cloud9 after one game
2020-11-12 21:40
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Here come all the UK no-sceners to try to explain how Mantuu is actually a good player :D
2020-11-12 23:13
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UK may have a shit scene but mantuu is a good player
2020-11-12 23:17
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Good for a UK player yes I agree with you
2020-11-12 23:41
Go ahead and message me when you find Mantuu in the top 20 (and go ahead and message me years later when he's still not there pls babe <3) liquipedia.net/counterstrike/HLTV/Top_20..
2020-11-12 21:01
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Imagine confusing past and present tense. You speak English yet you don't understand it :D. Makes sense, you basically copied it and made our language worse.
2020-11-12 21:03
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I'll slow it down since you obviously need me to. Message me when you find Mantuu in the past top 20 players. Also message me if you ever see him in the top 20. Make more sense for your tiny brain?
2020-11-12 21:05
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i'll be messaging you at the end of the year because he will almost 100% be in the top 20 and a lot of your shitty NA players like twistzz will be out :D
2020-11-12 21:05
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Okay message me then big boy!
2020-11-12 21:06
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hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. can't call me big boy when your weight starts with 200 amerifatty
2020-11-12 21:06
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It doesn't but again, message me when it happens pls and thx
2020-11-12 21:06
exactly hahahhhaha silly american child
2020-11-12 21:18
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mantuu 1.30 rating vs tier 1 brehze 0.87 rating vs tier 1
2020-11-12 21:35
because they havent put the numbers publicly unlike c9? Just because of idiots like you esports still appears kinda shady to wider public
2020-11-12 17:22
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I really doubt either of those teams paid 6 million for the players they have. But if they did, complexity has much better players for the price and OG probably also has better players for the price, but I know OG did not pay that much for their team. Stay in denial and message me back when C9 wins a tier 1 event. In fact, if they ever win a tier 2 event message me because that would be overachieving for them
2020-11-12 17:24
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bet players like konfig, blamef, jks were really cheap
2020-11-12 17:27
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Even if they weren't cheap, they're better players than players like mezii, floppy, and es3tag which means you get greater value for the price. C9 players are overpaid mid-tier players who got lucky that an airhead like HenryG was there to offer them way more than they're worth to build a "colossus"
2020-11-12 17:30
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which u dont really know since they only played one official
2020-11-12 17:31
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Nope, Even if they overperform, they will be a top 10 team at best and never win anything significant. Feel free to bookmark this thread and comeback and talk to me if I end up being wrong. But since that won't happen, I guess I won't be seeing you around big man! GLHF :D
2020-11-12 17:32
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Could you also tell me when I die? Since it seems like you know the future
2020-11-12 17:33
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I don't know the future. But I am confident in the fact that this is a 6 million dollar investment into a team that will never amount to anything more than (at best) a top 10 placing in the HLTV rankings and maybe a few tier 2 tournament wins. But if I had to guess, I'm confident that you won't live long considering you seem to be having trouble using your brain
2020-11-12 17:35
its all about their chemistry to play as a team. You dont need superstars to make a good team. For example Ence before the aleksib bench clownfiesta reached top2 with their team, even though all of their players werent individually any good with the exception of sergej. Aerial was almost a nonamer before ence. Cloud9 can learn from their mistakes and develop from them, first match doesnt tell shit
2020-11-12 17:41
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ENCE needed more firepower nothing they could've done but add sunny. You as a Finn should get this
2020-11-12 17:44
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they literally went to shit after they kicked the igl out wtf are u talking about flag checks out nvm
2020-11-12 18:07
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You don't get the firepower meme? This is truly surprising... flag does not check out
2020-11-12 18:17
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sory bro im fake finn....
2020-11-12 18:18
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tuff luck
2020-11-12 18:27
#46
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Brazil RevvivaL
Mid tier players? Alex is a tier 1 igl, woxic is inconsistent but is also definitely t1. Es3tag showed he can compete and play well, mezzi has potential and so does floppy (but he should be a 6th), one more piece and this team could be very good.
2020-11-12 18:33
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Alex was a tier 1 IGL yet apex stepped in as IGL and Vita has not dropped off. Alex was a good IGL because he had the best player in the world on his team in 2019. He is maybe the only potentially tier 1 player on c9. woxic has only been tier 1 at times. his inconsistency makes him tier 2. Es3tag showed he can compete and play well in a system like astralis. I think anyone could play with such a good team and look decent. floppy has potential to be the worst player on this team and that's all his potential. and mezzi walks with mouse2, enough said
2020-11-12 18:35
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#48
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Brazil RevvivaL
Yea, look at jugi... and snappi, how did they do in Australis? VItality with Alex was a better team and vitality would take him back any day. Woxic isnt tier 2, that is not even an argument you could make. Mezzi is a supportive player that has massive potential to be the best in his role and your blind if you cant see that. Clearly you dont understand anything about CS, dont talk shit about henryG as an GM when you judge a team after 1 match.
2020-11-12 18:41
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"Australis" just invalidated everything you mentioned about jugi and snappi. And yeah they did fine. They weren't played nearly as much as es3tag was so who knows how they would've done with that much playing time. How was vitality better with alex? In ranking? No. In accomplishments? maybe but only because online era no accomplishments matter. Woxic's inconsistency makes him tier 2, everyone knows that and that's why he's on C9 and not a good team rn. HenryG as a GM spent 6 million to get a bunch of tier 2/3 players so I can judge him all I want. You trying to tell me I don't know about CS is comical, but please feel free to come back to this thread later when C9 do more than top 10 in the rankings or winning a tier 1 event on LAN. But since I know that won't happen you'll reply now since you won't be able to come back :D
2020-11-12 18:45
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#50
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Brazil RevvivaL
I lose you at "they did fine", did you see them play? i would of had more impact than jugi. Vita won 3 events with alex, and won 0 without alex, dont know where your facts came from. Woxic isnt tier 2, no further comment. You dont have a particle of henryG's CS knowledge, if you think you do your delusional. This team could fall off a cliff and die, but they clearly have potential to be great, if you cant see that you are blind.
2020-11-12 18:51
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I hope I don't have a particle of HenryG's "CS knowledge" considering the team he put together with 6 million. Good luck supporting this "colossus" big man! Message me when C9 reach this "clear potential" you think they have :D
2020-11-12 18:53
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#53
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Brazil RevvivaL
Supporting cloud9? I'm alright. I just have half of a brain to realize a team cant be judged from 1 game. And you do not know nearly as much about the game than henryG, don't be delusional.
2020-11-12 18:57
#87
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United Kingdom novaseer
except ALEX got into that Vitality role by putting LDLC on the map, a team that didn't have ZywOo
2020-11-12 21:44
you are mistaking zywoo being on the team with alex being a good igl
2020-11-12 20:53
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#93
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Brazil RevvivaL
Alex unlocked zywoo and build a system that worked way better than when NBK was igl. Don't give me the ZyWoO iS tHe OnLy pLaYeR oN ViTaLiTy excuse. The team has worst ratings because they play for and around zywoo, if you don't see that you don't understand counter-strike fundamentally.
2020-11-12 23:36
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CS, fundamentally, is about killing the enemy, something zywoo does so well that it makes people believe that Alex is a good igl by just setting him to get kills. We will see if you are right about him in C9 future games.
2020-11-12 23:46
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#96
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Brazil RevvivaL
CS Fundamentally is not just killing, don't know what your saying. Do you think ALEX was not doing anything for vitality?
2020-11-13 00:24
#36
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Japan tatsumi
they could’ve bought niko and 4 random lems for that much and still have millions left over kkkk
2020-11-12 17:39
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They could have, but sadly they decided HenryG was their best bet as a GM
2020-11-12 17:41
#54
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United States EDBX
Why are you so mad tho? LOL. I
2020-11-12 18:58
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Mad about what?
2020-11-12 18:58
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#57
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United States EDBX
Cloud 9 what do you think
2020-11-12 18:58
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What do I think about Cloud 9? I think they're overpaid and overhyped
2020-11-12 19:00
6$ million btw
2020-11-12 17:10
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#10
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Chile esanchez47
First game btw
2020-11-12 17:13
New team but dropped way too many advantages, could've been an easy Overpass win.
2020-11-12 17:10
This Cloud 9 is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, aim, map awareness, crosshair placement, economy management, pistol aim, awp flicks, grenade spots, smoke spots, pop flashes, positioning, bomb plant positions, retake ability, bunny hopping, spray control and getting a kill.
2020-11-12 17:10
>Not that bad >Good tier-2 team pick one
2020-11-12 17:10
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> Strong team > Virtus.pro pick one
2020-11-12 20:51
guys just hire me as gm, i will make you so good team awper 1: zywoo awper 2: s1mple rifler: ropz rifler 2: electronic moral support, also leader: seized
2020-11-12 17:14
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#7
cromen | 
United States JeyyR
You're probably just as qualified to be the GM as HenryG is so...
2020-11-12 17:11
#8
STYKO | 
Slovakia DR_GON
I don't like HenryG he is such an egoist. "WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DESTROY T1 TEAMS LIKE ASTRALIS OR VITALITY" yeah yeah sure Floppy will go 50 kills a map against them, just delusional
2020-11-12 17:12
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#9
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CIS Arztyy
Calm down, nobody expected nothing from floppy, NA players can't play against EU teams, so that was just a joke i think
2020-11-12 17:13
wut ? he saied that ? i want the clip ahahahahahahahhahaahahha
2020-11-12 17:37
VP is not a EU team, 2 kazakhs and 1 Uzbek = Asia
2020-11-12 17:14
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#12
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CIS Arztyy
Big brain time
2020-11-12 17:14
jame is better
2020-11-12 17:14
#15
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Italy DaDoar
I mean it was literally their first game togheter, also they played a very good VP lineup that has been dominating convincingly the whole CIS region, i think people are giving C9 too much crap for this loss, i think tomorrow against a worse team like Gen.G they will definetely win and maybe be able to take revenge on VP in lower bracket, overpass was very close and without Jame amazing gamesense i think VP would have lost or gone to overtime
2020-11-12 17:15
Imagine spending all that money on a Tier-2 team KKKKKKKKKK
2020-11-12 17:33
#32
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Spain Pog_chaos
henryG paid six million for this roster... cloud9 are doomed
2020-11-12 17:36
Did anyone else catch the Flashpoint desk throwing the f-word around multiple times after the first Inferno half? (I believe it was on Inferno don't quote me). Unless I'm mistaken they got caught off-guard being on air as quick as they were and had to quickly put on an Alex interview. The subject was that they predicted a strong C9 and when C9 got smoked first half the desk wasn't sure what to talk about. I really don't care what they say I just think it's very funny.
2020-11-12 17:37
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#58
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United States EDBX
There has been a lot of swearing in the broadcast tonight, maybe Flashpoint doesn't care
2020-11-12 18:59
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they're allowed to swear
2020-11-12 22:04
Mezii was the only liability on that team before they got that dog floppy worst player in tier 1/2 CS
2020-11-12 17:45
c9 couldve bought out a superstar like ropz/elige/nivera (he was avaliable when c9 started this project) and built around them. it wouldve been 100x better than what theyre doing right now
2020-11-12 19:00
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Yup, Nivera instead of mezii would’ve been nice.
2020-11-12 20:57
They are still at Clown9 rank
2020-11-12 20:56
alex numba 1 igl lmao zywoo go kill strat doesnt work unfortunately
2020-11-12 21:15
dude VP are a strong team in the CIS region, not in whole of europe. that results were embarrassing for at least 3 players who played in the top level of csgo. to a point the igl was the top fragger and VP barely even saved, which is the main thing they do. so many 4v2s lost, so many 3v1s lost.
2020-11-13 00:28
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