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Deadlift question?
Sweden m4st4m4st3r4wp 
If i do a normal deadlift, but use my legs more than i should, will the lift be easier then? Can i lift heavier if i use my legs more than i should or will the lift be harder? Lets say i have strong legs but weak back. Will i lift heavier with correct form on the deadlift or will i lift heavier if i use a form where my legs are working more than my back? If you get what i mean.
2020-11-22 19:38
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2020-11-22 19:43
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no
2020-11-22 19:43
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If i have strong legs and weak back. If i then "squat" the deadlift, can i lift heavier then or will i lift heavier using correct form?
2020-11-22 19:45
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u should always use the correct form even if it makes u lift 20kg less.
2020-11-22 19:46
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i know but thats not what im asking. will i be able to lift heavier by "squatting" the deadlift if my legs are really strong but my back is weak. or will i lift heavier by using the normal form where i use my back more?
2020-11-22 19:47
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i dont htink u can call it a deadlift then ^^
2020-11-22 20:01
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+1
2020-11-22 20:31
Deadlift would be an excellent CS nickname
2020-11-22 19:43
Don't try to lift heavier by fucking up your form, get the technique right and then you'll slowly get there. Doing any exercise with bad form only leads to injury. Only thing you can do is sumo dl vs conventional dl, or other variations, but always with proper form.
2020-11-22 19:47
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i know this, thats not what im asking. im asking lets say you have really strong legs but your back is weak. will you be able to lift heavier if you "squat" the deadlift instead?
2020-11-22 19:48
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If you squat the deadlift then you're not doing it right, so might as well just do regular squats.
2020-11-22 19:50
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....... dude do you know the answer or not. I AM NOT DOING THIS, i am asking theoretically if i will lift heavier on the deadlift if i "squat" it. if i have strong legs but weak back.
2020-11-22 19:51
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Can't you read? Squatting the deadlift = bad form, bad form = injury. And no, you won't lift heavier cause it is a compound exercise which needs all muscles involved developed to a point to get the weight you're trying to lift, it's not all about one muscle like quad extensions is.
2020-11-22 19:53
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so if i have really strong legs and really weak back and lift it like this: youtu.be/RYDh0zcA4hE?t=36 i wont be able to lift heavier than if i lift with correct form?
2020-11-22 19:55
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Did you even finish the video you linked yourself? They're literally explaining how you correct a squatting deadlift, as in it being bad form. If you wanna squat your deadlift, just squat. Otherwise, stick to proper deadlifts with good load progression planned.
2020-11-22 19:57
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i know its bad form. i know its wrong dude. i just want to know if this "bad form" will allow me to lift heavier than with normal form if my legs are super strong and my back super weak. since this form targets the legs more shouldnt i lift heavier with that "bad form" if my legs are super strong and my back super weak?
2020-11-22 19:58
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Sure, go for it. You'll probably fuck up your lower back but you'll lift heavier.
2020-11-22 19:59
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omg dude im not gonna try this. im just asking if theoretically i will lift heavier using that form if my legs are strong but back weak.
2020-11-22 20:01
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you should do accessory exercises to build up your lower back strength instead. Doing rack pulls, stiff leg deadlifts, more rows will all build up your back strength which will in turn help you in your conventional deadlift.
2020-11-22 20:04
Why would you ask, then? Like I don't get it.
2020-11-22 20:06
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my friend says that you will lift heavier with correct form even if my legs are super strong and my back super weak and use the form where it targets my legs more. to me it makes sense that if my legs are strong but back is weak, that i could lift heavier if i use the form where u use your legs more.
2020-11-22 20:08
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Yes but the form you are describing for conventional is utter trash. If you want more leg emphasis, then try sumo. However, saying your back is weak is a clear sign that it cannot be neglected. So you still need to get your back stronger, but if your legs are genetically gifted, then you can try switching to sumo.
2020-11-22 20:10
you would lift heavier if ur legs are stronger but ofc u will fuck up your back because it cant handle the weight if u wanna do deadlifts like that work on your lower back
2020-11-22 20:36
You can't squat a deadlift, there are two parts to the movement: the push and the hinge. What you're describing sounds like a recipe for injury edit: You can do different styles of deadlift tho. If you have long legs you might prefer the sumo deadlift (wide stance). Everyone has different leverages
2020-11-22 19:52
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2020-11-22 19:52
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Oh, I see what you're saying. That's just bad form. If you want to do it properly, check out the 5-step Starting Strength breakdown: youtube.com/watch?v=p2OPUi4xGrM
2020-11-22 19:56
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but if i lift like the video i linked, and i have super strong legs and super weak back. will i lift heavier with that "bad form" than with normal form? since on this bad form im using more legs and i have strong legs and weak back.
2020-11-22 19:57
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Maybe, but you won't get the full benefit of the exercise, and the risk of injury is increased.
2020-11-22 19:58
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i dont care about injury or full benefit. only if theoritcally i could lift heavier with that form if my legs are super strong and back weak since that form target legs more.
2020-11-22 19:59
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Then your question has been answered, hasn't it
2020-11-22 20:00
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i dont know, your answer was "maybe".
2020-11-22 20:00
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You're describing a hypothetical situation. Hypothetically it's possible. I don't know your life lol
2020-11-22 20:01
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ofc but if hypothetically my legs are super strong but my back super weak. to me it makes sense that i should be able to lift heavier if use that bad form since it uses more legs.
2020-11-22 20:03
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You won't be able to lift more because your back is limiting the "deadlift squat" position. See - to keep relatively vertical back angle while pulling, your erectors have to work a lot more compared to the standard more horizontal angle and what will actually happen is you get your hips low and when you initiate the pull they will shoot high up again and you won't be able to keep such a vertical angle. I hope this answers your question.
2020-11-22 20:07
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so i will lift heavier using the correct form even if my legs are super strong but back is super weak? there is no way to "cheat" the deadlift?
2020-11-22 20:09
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You will lift more with the "cat back"
2020-11-22 20:14
Just a correction to my recent reply *Your erectors don't work more when having a more vertical angle but their work is not as efficient if you understand what I mean* And no, you can't "cheat the deadlift". If you learn to pull sumo it may help you lift bigger numbers tho
2020-11-22 20:15
No context whatsoever but I will try to give you a simple answer - - Conventional DL - more back, more hamstrings, less quads and glutes - Sumo DL - More quads and glutes, less hams and back because of more vertical angle Therefore you should lift more with a sumo (not taking into account your anthropometry)
2020-11-22 19:52
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nobody understanding my question... im not asking what i should do. this is a theoretical question. if i have STRONG legs and WEAK back and i do conventional deadlift. but i kind of "squat" it instead of doing it correctly. will i be able to lift heavier then?
2020-11-22 19:53
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I see what you mean. For any compound lift, squat bench or deadlift, you want to have the weight distributed across your body as evenly as possible. When you conventional deadlift you cannot "squat" it up because it needs to be one fluid motion between your legs and back and hip motion. If you use all leg force first, you'll have extended legs, but your back will struggle VERY hard to lock out. If anything, "squatting" a deadlift would be easier with sumo... check out ssjbobb on instagram. He does USAPL and his deadlift stance is very hybrid sumo, with a very close sumo stance to activate as much leg drive as possible.
2020-11-22 19:59
If your hips are too low you kinda squat the deadlift, that's what the oly lifters do and no you won't be stronger in that position no matter how weak your back is relatively to your legs. In order to be the strongest, the bar has to be placed directly over the middle of your foot and travel in a straight vertical line on the way up and has to always be in contact with your shins and thighs. I suggest you watch this video first to understand what I mean youtube.com/watch?v=wYREQkVtvEc
2020-11-22 19:59
what?
2020-11-22 19:52
if you have strong legs you can also go for rack deads to focus more on the back the more you use your legs the easier it gets normally, you should lift sumo more than you do with normal dl
2020-11-22 19:58
strong back is vry important for a strong lift, lats, core, erectus, oliques etc.
2020-11-22 19:59
No, use proper form and work on your weak spots instead.
2020-11-22 20:01
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Poland FitPolak
You use your legs and hips during deaflit, lol. It's hip hinge movement after all
2020-11-22 20:08
Deadlift is two movements. First is driving with the legs and second is pulling with the upper back. If you back is weak you wont be able to do the second movement. If you do it but with bad form its to heavy, go lower.
2020-11-22 20:12
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I agree. Also it's important for him to get his lat so strong that he can keep it activated throughout the whole movement.
2020-11-22 20:17
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