U are telling me NaVi as a team is better than vitality's

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I didn't even read this article, nonetheless, I agree that zywoo is better

Man you had a good point at first and then this...

hltv.org/stats?startDate=2020-01-01&endD.. ?????????

1)Simple has more top10 opponents than ZyWoo in 2020 2)Simple's stats on rmr cis are worse than his average stats I agree ZyWoo was slightly better individually this year but ur point is fake.

"ZywOo go kill" is the best strat of CS tho

"I'd prefer to have ZywOo on my team" - This sums up pretty much every reason u can think of to compare them. At the end some specific stats don't matter that much. If you have to build a team to be top1 and stay at the top, you will be better picking up Zyw0o over s1mple.

2-0>2-3 x2 S0mple g0d lmao, nt sam2k

+1 sam, im with u

nt sam2k

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+1 same with niko though

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Choko is better

s1mple* its just in another level

Your math doesn't check out,having more opening duels attempts ofc means you have a less success % but that could be still a higher number than someone who takes less ex. if you take 2 kills 2 hs that means 100% hs,but if you take 4 kills 3 hs means 66.6 hs % but that's one more kill you understand me ?Also entry on t-side is usually done with ak and the fact that zywoo switches his role for that means a lot.There are examples where he does it with the awp too (the famous run banana kill 4 inferno and today twice hero awp,the round with shox(ak47) and the round with misuta boosting him con).

1) s1mple has considerably more awp/ rifle ratio kills than zywoo which makes my point that s1mples rating relies on it more. You arent in any position to judge for sure who is a better rifler. I argued my point with stats even tho its painfully clear to me that zywoo is better just from watching the games. Show me how s1mple is better with the rifle. 2) their success opening kill ratio is 62.6% to 63.4%. Now if you have common sense you know that 25% opening duels on 62.6 is better than 20% 63.4. Thats what opening rating is for, 1.3 for zywoo 1.2 for s1mple. Now that doesnt even account that zywoo's openings are more unfavorable AND THAT HE TAKES THEM WITH RIFLES MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN S1MPLE you know rifle opening duels are much harder than awp opening duels. I suggest hltv adds a statistic like effective field goal percentage in basketball, in a way that rifle opening duels won are worth more than awp ones. 3) Most of the time possibly but its clear that ZywOo is sacrificed for the team at a much more often rate than s1mple ( if s1mple ever is ). You see ZywOo going first in executes with a rifle quite often ( which is the hardest thing to do ) which s1mple just doesnt do. And yet zywoo still posts a better rating. With these kind of differences in playstyle, rather of the potential stapadding, i think that s1mple would have to have atleast > 0.08 rating difference over zywoo to be considered better.

>zywoo has more awp kills than rifle kills just like s1mple. Your brain smooth Your iq zero Cry kkkkkkkkk

men SIXER > zywoo > s1mple

deep down we all know the awp goat is solek.

hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. thx for this best fail xD you are so stupid

"Based on 13 maps..."

indeed.

to be fair, s0mple shouldn't have been in the top5 of 2019 but ok

You mean how s1mple has 1.16 rating against Vitality while ZywOo has 1.27 against Na'vi?

just trying to make sense of the stats. Nothing of this matters, all you need is a pair or eyes, good cs knowledge and a non biased open mind to know ZywOo is a more complete and impactful player.

Nope!!!! s1mple is better. But everyone can have favourties.

Nah anchoring isnt that bad. He is a fucking raw entry in execs whole T sides with a rifle sometimes. Now that rating with it is impressive.

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not in this reality :>

+1 stats say so

Maybe in HLTV. But skill wise s1mple is better :)

sss

i think people talk too much about roles in these discussions. if a player plays a certain role, he's most likely at his best in those spots/roles or would just be worse than the others in a star role.

s1mple is another level for zywoo, since S1mple is better player and he is doing it way longer than zywoo. at the moment S1mple is top1 of 2020 :>

+1 the first real superstar cs prodigy in my eyes is ZywOo

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i understand the s1mple is AWP god while zywoo is just good with all weapons, thats why he had many less than s1mple's kills

#186 Do give it a read, if you can be unbiased, and have a decent attention span. Good day :)

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nah they dont

smart modssss

Nt zywoo better than s0mple

#186 Give it a read, if you can be unbiased and have an attention span of 5 minutes. Good day :)

They aren't straight forward (1 on 1 aim duels) usually.

yeah man they should just play bo3 aim maps and whoever wins is the better player xD

s1 got trashed by Xantares and Flamie in bo3 aim 1v1s. It doesnt matter.

1) most awpers take more opening duels than their rifle counter parts, and they make them at a much more effiecent rate due to using the awp. Taking the most favourable dules ( which u say s1mple does as an awper ) works in my favor showing how zywoo is more impactful by suceeding in worse situations ( entrying with rifle + less favourable situations, in executes etc, in contrast to s1mple with awp + favourable spawn based ) So thanks for further elaborating on how it works to further strenghten my point. 2) cool, NaVi is setup in a way in which s1mple is always favoured while zywoo has to share some setup rounds with shox/ nivera. What did you prove with this? Are you working in my favor? You are further pointing out how s1mple is more setup for better stats, and literally my whole point is that he is setup for much better stats while their rating is the same. Also to elaborate on this a little. I think s1mple baits too much. The team structure favors him too much. You may say, he is the best awper in the world, one of the best riflers while his team is nowhere close skill wise outside of electronic, so why would s1mple ever sacrifice himself for his teammates when he is always more likely to convert rounds due to being the best? Lets take Vitality as an example. Under ALEX's leadership, ZywOo was setup as a fucking deity and others had little to no freedom over him. You may think that is the most optimal way to play, to have your superstar player always in the best position, but that wasnt the case. Under apex the freedom and good positions are a little more spread out. For some its counter intuitive- the fact that worse players less likely to convert than zywoo are sometimes baiting him and having the best positions- But it worked out fenomenally for Vitality- with a worse player- alex to misuta, and a worse igl call/ strat wise- alex to apex: Vitality are a much better team than they were before. shox rating under alex- 0.92; under apex- 1.02 rpk stats under alex- 0.94; under apex- 0.97 shox and rpk are revitilasied and zywoo didnt drop off that much due to being setup less, dont get me wrong he is still setup as a clear star, but not a superstar deity like he used to be under alex and like s1mple is in NaVi. Now why it works- for teammates morale, confidence and potential of getting in the zone. Some players desperately need a little of freedom and baiting to really elevate their morale and game, being constantly baited and in shit positions has to take an effect subconciously in which you might lose that competitive edge and wont get in zones. So for me, there has to be a balance in how much a superstar is setup, for the better of the team. 3) Thats nice. Still havent proved me wrong in any of my points, its like your whole post is justifying s1mple's role and playstyle showing that he is a great player- he is, but zywoo is better. What do the overall stats have to do with anything?? Stats from when s1mple was a rilfer and zywoo was playing matchmaking probably?? We are comparing who is the best this year, right now and looking at the current stats, for the past months. 4) Sure, my CIS point isnt that worth, but s1mple still dropped off in form in those less worth games and that still counts in your judgement for the best throughout the year. 5) Yeah i said their stats are almost the same 1.29 to 1.28, but that s1mple is setup for much better stats which makes ZywOo better.

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