+1 sometimes he is a real moron but he is the only one out there who is not sucking x's dick and say everything as real as possible
When he get mad over something (org, manager, player) He spends all his time tweeting about it. often even months, where he will trash everything they do, and can only see his own opinion
I wouldn't call him real anymore after sucking Flashpoints dick for so long and bashing ESL
He was a dick to device and got rekt and keeps milking this hate for NiKo making countless of tweets , interviews and videos about him talking pretty much all the same (shit IGL , big ego , kicked karrigan blah blah).
No matter how good of an analyst he is , he is a dick to people and deserves all the hate he gets.
+1 also just nice to listen to if ya like cs content in general, if you really enjoy in depth player interviews, historical retellings, and want a more honest side to stories it's really fun to listen to. Pretty few talent who are willing to criticize pros or be completely honest in certain scenarios.
him and his actions are so biased, you cannot call him realest
Thorin is one of a kind.. hope he will stay in the cs community as long as its possible!
If by one of the kind you mean one of the weird personalities then you are right, He will keep saying everything against a person for months if he disagrees with him. He is very biased now not at all realest and him criticism of players is not professional.
Thorin is based, and he upsets many fanboys, that's why he gets the hate.
People take insult towards a player/org personally and get upset over that.
He said it himself, if you don't love him you're gonna hate him.
He does a good job at it. I used to like his content but since Flashpoint he has turned into an unbearable cunt.
Being a d*ckhead and flaming everyone that doesn't go your way is different than being "real". Thorin is the opposite of real, always having his interest of his little ego in mind rather than trying to form and defend objective opinions. He's manipulative and biased, and most things coming out of his mouth is first rate bullshit
he uses controversy to get clicks and that makes people omegabutthurt
he has good takes tbh
you think that
edgy statements = facts
no one outside the team, coach, or someone who hears the comms can be really sure.
he would be perfect if he was a little more impartial
thorin is great! and by the numbers is the best cs podcast by a long shot! he an RL are top notch when it comes to understanding cs and esports as a whole.
but he is a little bit too much in love with himself. sometimes I think that he thinks that basically everyone he doesnt like is lying constantly and he is the only one who knows and speaks the truth. he stages himself as some kind of crusader sometimes. thats too much. but the rest of his content is 10/10.
Only crybabies get upset by thorin
i dont hate him i just hate his voice
his online persona is like that, hence why he is famous
He's a self-inflated narcissist with an annoying voice, hard pass
Thorin is only clown, never nothing to say he is just making everyone angry so he gets attention, with attention he can keep that clown attitude because he makes money with it.
People should just start ignoring that clown and he will drown.
His thoughts trigger some people but you can't deny what he says
Is he still alive?
I don't play csgo anymore but watching pro matches and I learned Russian over 3 years so I can watch russian stream so I don't have to listen to those silver lor ranked english casters. (same reason is for dota)
its honestly not a complex situation. you like aggressive discussions with clowny tendencies and jokes? you will like thorin
you don't like aggressive discussions and jokes? you wont like him
the thing is, thorin has so many "haters" because people who dislike thorin as a person feel offended by his style of debate. if thorin wasn't this clowny shittalk type of guy, nobody would give a fuck. but they dont like his jokes, feel offended and that makes them think he is a horrible person, when he's just a guy who likes to debate esports and make some jokes
yeah he often sacrifices seriousness for shittalking and it makes things immature, but many people are like that. no need to be offended, but many people are offended
I have thought a lot about this and I think one, of several reasons, is because people mistake on-desk analysts with content creation analysts.
When it comes to opinion based analysis, or hot take analysis, he is unrivaled.
But people get annoyed because he calls out the BS that desk analysts won't call out.
Take Spunj for instance. He often got rants on Confirmed, but that is usually when things have got too far.
Thorin makes multiple angry pieces before that, and then get people against him because he comes off as a douche because of it.
But people forget that Spunj is biased towards hyping events, teams and matches. Mainly because he wanna have viewers and clout for events he either works for now or for future TOs
His job is to build up the game, not to point a spotlight at the gritty and dark.
This game is es for almost all casters and desk analysts.
A question to people who hate Thorin: what "competitor" would you suggest?
I agree, TH OMEGALUL RIN is a moron sometimes but he has the guts to do whatever the f he wants to do and asks the real questions. He also has insane guts to call out org's or even people he has lost business opportunity due to this but a real guy. TH OMEGALUL RIN
He is an autistic manchild trapped in the body of a rapidly aging ginger
Stop giving him attention
Most of the people complaining about him have probably never seen an By The Numbers podcast episode or any of the other podcasts starring him. He doesnt care about other opinion when outing his. He and Richard are for sure the best journalist/talent in cs (compared to other journalists, not the on air talent like Spunj and machine).
That's the easy way to do things. In every aspect, especially on media, being disrespectful or have harsh opinions about people or whatever, will generate curiosity on the people. In this case, viewers, readers. But the content man... a lot to be desired.
Well, all of this is really subjective.
fuck thorin all my homies hate thorin
didn't he call the polish people toilet cleaners or something like that?
I turn off or flick away whenever he speaks so I neither deny nor confirm your statement
He's often a complete cunt, but he is an impartial cunt, that's why I like him. His biggest flaw is he makes it very hard for those he criticises to engage with him, but that's usually because they respond with a bruised ego.
If people he criticised actually put their ego aside and engaged him honestly they could learn a lot, just look at what k0nfig has done in the year since Thorin did a piece on the downfall of his career.
He's great as long as he doesn't shit on your team...
he is biased and he is disrespectful when he thinks he is right, wich is disgusting for a jornalist. so not a good personality at all.
lewis on the other hand is just biased. i respect lewis on his ignorance and on having a bias wich is kind of impossible not to. but i do not like at all the thorin's way of provoking and angry rising situations he creates.
He is the cancer of esports
Hope one day he gers banned from cs scene.
Don't have to like him at all, but I think that his presence in the community is good - clarity and real questions being asked.
People disliking him are 99% ppl who are fan of a team or player Thorin criticized. Or country (poland, brazil).
It's not about being real and say the things that others don't want to listen to, he is just plain disrespectful, he attacks everyone personally with the worst possible manners, if It was just saying the truth always with respect even if It hurts players and stuff I would be ok with It, but He doesn't do that, he crosses the limit everytime and that's exactly why no one wants to work with him anymore except for Flashpoint (We will see until when, because that's literally his last choice).
he is extremely biased not only when it comes to Flashpoint / ESL stuff but most defeinitely when it comes to pros and orgs.
Notice how he has a massive hate boner for every org or pro that doesn't want to make "content" with him. He even tweeted out that Fallen thought of himself as "royalty" because he didnt want to do an interview with Thorin at one point, i mean imagine being this entitled lmfao.
his twitter is out of control and he's making a fool out himself. he sees himself as some kind of saviour but he is not consistent when it comes to criticizing because he goes easy on friends. and that's a no from me dawg. he spares certain people and that makes him a hypocrit.
The best content creator in the scene next to Richard Lewis, the golden duo that makes all the little fanboys cry :)
He spreads hate not gets hate.
Thorin makes my blood boil.
Thorin is fun to follow and his coverage is usually great.
He is super fragile though. He constantly trash talks and insults everyone but if someone ever hits back he acts like a little girl.
whos thorin? that virgin ginger bread?
True, i don't personally like him, but i do recognise that sometimes he is needed to spice the scene up from the general "boring" analysts.
Thorin is not even a good analyst
he doesn't know shit about csgo
he also sucks at being an analyst
Like me, Thorin has Asperger's, it's a very mild type of "autism" that creates some difficulty in social interactions, for example I can't maintain eye contact and I don't know how to interpret a lot of coporal language, except that everything that involves activities that I do alone in my corner I am above average, Thorin is not charismatic and I think he doesn’t even try to be, but he is very smart indeed.