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Norway hejmonika 
why tf people hyping up ALEX as a great top 5 igl? Vitality went from top 3-4 to top 1 this year without him, and with apEX calling; of all people. His style lacks structure and relies on raw firepower such as the obvious ZywOo himself, and on CT sides NBK was calling during 2019 before they cut him too. Imo NiKo or Aleksib are better than ALEX.
2020-11-25 16:05
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Just Vitality onliners
2020-11-25 16:06
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Vitality won more finals on lan than online bro
2020-11-25 16:29
you drunk...?
2020-11-25 16:56
#62
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France OxYYY9
lmao ruskies are still upset about Na'choki
2020-11-26 16:35
#2
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Netherlands poeya1
NiKO ? haha the joker 2 movie coming out soon with in lead role hejmonika
2020-11-25 16:07
4 replies
+1
2020-11-25 16:25
go watch 50 demos of FaZe like i did and see for yourself, whats the issue behind their losses? is it Calls, Midrounds, rotations, strats and defaults..? Or is it A lack of synergy and players missing shots? I can tell you its the latter one
2020-11-25 16:27
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its both actually...
2020-11-29 08:21
#48
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Man you clearly don’t know counter strike. Every one is hating NiKo as IGL, but NiKo was not bad as IGL. IGL is there mostly for T side, and on T side everything was ok for FaZe. I will never forget, how FaZe on ESL RtR rekted North 11:4 on T side INFERNO!!! And they still managed to loose, because their poor CT side. But 11:4 on T side means that it was great calling by IGL. Yeah, I know FaZe fire power really helped him, but still great calling. And I can found way more great T sides from NiKo. I am not saying he’s the best IGL, no. But he is blamed for the looses, because everyone says like: they have firepower as fuck and they still loose, so it’s because IGL. But the true is, that him as IGL can’t do more on CT side...
2020-11-25 16:51
could have been a good thread till the last sentence. all 3 belong in the trash.
2020-11-25 16:07
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2020-11-25 16:27
Lol Aleksib is top 3 igl ... OG is ranked number #6 in the world with mediocre players thanks to Aleksib pulling the strings
2020-11-25 16:46
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everything che...
2020-11-25 16:47
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He isnt wrong, imagine OG without AleksiB. He's a great leader and good fragger overall.
2020-11-25 16:50
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mediocre players LUL
2020-11-25 16:51
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I mean, they arent mediocre, but they arent the best fraggers of the world. The thing is that they have a great synergy and play together pretty well, aside of mantuu, the rest arent beasts like NiKo s1mple or zywoo, etc.
2020-11-25 16:52
NBK - Sometimes can have a god map but normally he is a bad fragger Issaa - really inconsistent V4lde - Consistently good but not a superstar like some other top team riflers Mantuu - inconsistent and before OG was a no namer
2020-11-25 16:53
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Don't get me wrong the players are good but they don't have any superstars like most other top teams.... With someone else as an igl I don't think they would be even top 20
2020-11-25 16:55
Niko and Aleskib are still better than ALEX dude. Even if you think they're all trash.
2020-11-26 16:40
not cool
2020-11-25 16:08
#6
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Pakistan An1kKkK
thats why he was perfect fit for FaZe he would get the firepower of NiKo rain and cold with broky being the young gun
2020-11-25 16:09
#7
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Germany I_car
Apex has great knowledge of cs he can make good strats
2020-11-25 16:10
#11
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Netherlands ONGix
- "Well you aren't a good IGL or Fragger, but you are BRITISH, so here's 3 milli fam"
2020-11-25 16:16
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0/8
2020-11-25 16:26
#12
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Japan Peine
He played in Vitality with players with years and experience and a literal god so he got hyped as the "reason for vitality success" But let see in a month how he will manage to form and play with young players
2020-11-25 16:17
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he also led LDLC but jaa i agree hes overrated
2020-11-25 16:19
ZywOo played a huge part ofc but you also have to consider that all of the experienced players were struggling to achieve anything ever since 2017.
2020-11-25 16:48
The thing with Vitality perfomance relies more in shox starting to perfomance than with Alex being a problem. I don't know if this is related, but shox was in bad shape last year.
2020-11-25 16:26
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+1 shox was really bad and they still managed to win EPICENTER.
2020-11-25 16:30
aleskib yes, niko no.
2020-11-25 16:27
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2020-11-25 16:28
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you just claim random facts out of your ass. show me the clips where niko did good calls. also, the igls job is to make the team have good synergy.
2020-11-25 16:34
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Thats just not true, if players have a personality clash or ego difference or different playstyles its in fact NOT an IGLs job to settle that, its the players. Im not here to show you clips of good calls, get a demo and see for yourself what loses them rounds. Again, with your own eyes, grab a demo and look at a round FaZe lose. And for good calls, FaZe crafted two set pieces who are now common place executes (Inferno B site Molotov corner + smoke it and explode, used by Astralis and Mouz) and their T side train pistol which was used in FNATICs game recently. More examples? Have it from the players. Rain? "NiKo is a good IGL," YNk too. Coldzera too, olof hasnt said anything, broky either and Kjaerbye agreed (rewatch streams of ESL and DH to see player interviews from FaZe, and for YNk listen to the HLTV podcast) Want some more? Exact good calls examples? How about the games where FaZe win? All of them. FaZe win due to individuals working well together and not choking aim fights, and FaZe lose when the Individuals underperform. FaZes structure has always been good. And the IGLs job is to be the main voice in the team when it comes to System of Play, Strats to run, Playbook, Rotations, Setups, Protocols and Map Vetoes together with the coach. When it comes down to raw aim, player responsible (obvious reasons). And when it comes down to Players Positioning - the only IGL to micromanage CT player positions is Karrigan (mouz comms). Atleast from the public knowledge, Astralis, FaZe, Cloud9, MIBR, NaVi, G2 and NiPs IGLs dont, which means players are also responsible for synergy and trade potential within each other.
2020-11-25 16:48
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#72
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Denmark 4vs0
this is prime example of quality over quantity u typed a paragraph of bullshit, just cuz its long doesnt mean its accurate
2020-11-27 00:45
How can you judge calls without comms ? And just lol at the games they win are good example of good calls from IGL
2020-11-29 08:26
"Vitality went from top 3-4 to top 1 this year without him" Vitality also went from #22 with Happy to #2 with ALEX.
2020-11-25 16:29
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Regardless, most teams die and fail without the IGL (ENCE, LDLC, Liquid, FaZe 2018-2019, Godsent, Astralis at first) Vitality *improve*, and with apEX being in charge... Sure, alex got the fundamentals working for them but right now theyre way past that point
2020-11-25 16:33
#26
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Finland byrbyl
Happy played for Vitality for 2 months :D?
2020-11-25 16:33
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Doesn't change the fact that he (and ZywOo) basically made French CS relevant again for the first time since late 2017.
2020-11-25 16:42
#23
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Finland byrbyl
He's so shit
2020-11-25 16:30
4 replies
2-12 on Nuke t side while lurking KEKW (winning 9-4) blameF going 1.30 rating on that map while having same roles.
2020-11-25 16:34
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He has always usually been a decent fragger though. In this team no, but then again this is his 5th map with the team.
2020-11-25 16:38
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Thats in officials that is with c9 bootcamping i can guarantee you they have played 50+ games together in Practice and Scrims
2020-11-25 16:38
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Well yeah I meant officials.
2020-11-25 16:40
#30
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Finland 0lter
All of this coming from guy that has never heard Alex calling gotta love it
2020-11-25 16:35
8 replies
I call myself, and from an IGL to an IGL, alex is overhyped
2020-11-25 16:39
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#54
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Finland 0lter
You are the level 3 faceit igl pog big fan bro
2020-11-25 17:51
6 replies
ESEA Main playoffs is far from level 3
2020-11-26 02:20
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#61
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Finland 0lter
No pretty sure both are shit lmao
2020-11-26 16:34
4 replies
"pretty sure" check again, its dog shit for NA standards but EU...
2020-11-27 00:31
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#74
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Finland 0lter
I check now im certain, both are shit
2020-11-27 01:49
#75
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India mangoes
I will give you 69$. Will you be able to igl my silver 4-stack to gold Nova??
2020-11-27 02:44
1 reply
easy
2020-11-28 12:21
#32
Boo | 
France mbl4
lmao ALEX just tried to save an AK like 3 meters away from the bomb
2020-11-25 16:38
i dont know either in vitality is was 99 because of zywoo and when he was in ldlc nobody was talking about him cuz he was bad
2020-11-25 16:39
he is bot
2020-11-25 16:41
overrated tbh. vitality is better with apex as igl
2020-11-25 16:41
Shut up kids. He needs time to perform
2020-11-25 16:47
he plays like he doesn't care at all
2020-11-25 16:47
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I like the Guy but lets be honest, who would care with such a salary ?
2020-11-29 08:29
overrated bot tier 3 player
2020-11-25 16:52
He was second highest rated on Vita but his aim looks like my aim now, wtf
2020-11-25 17:52
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axaxaxaxaaxaxaxa +1111111111111
2020-11-25 17:56
he was 1.1 against top tier teams while setting up ZywOo, don't just say he's always been bad
2020-11-25 17:56
not niko but alex overrated af
2020-11-25 17:56
#60
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France naveJ
He is a great Igl , he builded vitality with apEX. Vitality went to top 1 because they have more firepower , ALEX , apEX is too much , they need only one teamplayer and 4 other players who do their role.
2020-11-26 03:24
#64
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Finland Jomppeboi
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2020-11-26 16:51
you are assuming that apex is trash igl. he might be better igl than anyone else rn.
2020-11-26 18:57
pretty bad bait 2/8
2020-11-26 18:59
Alex is literally one of the worst IGLs idk what is wrong with people
2020-11-27 00:36
Brexit alex overrated crybaby
2020-11-27 00:49
not sure he is overrated, igl in general are overrated, you need players with experience and that can think for themself and the teams.. not only the igl .. but alex might be overated causez he was hard carried by zywoo ..and true even apex seems good maybe better igl , apex is helped a lot by shox.. actually shox lead as well i think he said on interview
2020-11-28 11:14
With how trash Shox played last year, top 4-6 is already a huge accomplishment.
2020-11-29 04:03
#88
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United States BrownD15
Completely forgetting what he managed to do with LDLC how’re they doing now?
2020-11-29 06:54
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#93
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Russia win73ry
to1nou is nowhere, ALEX is in C9, LOGAN is nowhere, AmaNEk is in G2, devoduvek is nowhere. Sadge!
2020-11-29 08:28
ALEX OVERRATED TRASH 100% NO ARGUMENT BOUT THAT
2020-11-29 07:03
You comparing alex leading a 5 man roaster to apex leading a 6 man roaster with 2 new players alex didn't have?
2020-11-29 17:49
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