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M4 BUFF
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Japan tatsumi 
anyone else pissed off that $500 pistols can one shot close range but a $3000 gun can’t? i’ve lost so many duels cuz i dink someone 2 meters from me with an m4 then they manage to one tap me cuz they have an ak. honestly they need to make it so that the m4 can one tap heads at close range or sumn cuz this shit is bs
2020-11-25 17:56
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#1
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
+1 volvo fix
2020-11-25 17:57
no
2020-11-25 17:57
#4
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Portugal DaHunter
LOL Go back to ak competitve, and stop crying
2020-11-25 17:57
21 replies
#5
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Japan tatsumi
you saying that $500 pistols should be able to one shot tho?
2020-11-25 17:58
20 replies
#13
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Russia VelsVivard
No, but instead of unnecessarily buffing M4, you would rather nerf the pistols maybe? Just take away that capability from them and we're gliding.
2020-11-25 18:01
16 replies
#23
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Portugal DaHunter
Well no... If volvo took the ability of 1 shot with the deag then the game is dead, it's all about them QuéOtas?
2020-11-25 18:05
15 replies
#25
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Russia VelsVivard
I'm talking about the five hundred bucks pistols, not the Deag! Deagle is out of contention.
2020-11-25 18:05
14 replies
#30
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Portugal DaHunter
Hmmm, what? What pistol kills 1 shot? (with helmet ofc) otherwise, m4s can one-shot as well lol...
2020-11-25 18:07
13 replies
#35
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Russia VelsVivard
Uh, not sure really, I don't play with those pistols. I know that CZ used to be able to disfigure you in one shot regardless of the dome you wore. Maybe 57 and Tec-9 are also capable of this. It's up to the topic starter who claimed it, I'm just talking about it.
2020-11-25 18:09
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#44
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Portugal DaHunter
Well let's be clear, the only one-shot pistol is the deagle (with helmet) that being said there is no point talking as an argument about "500$ dollar pistol with one-shot" does aren´t real... Well not for a while at least, so if u see #20 u can understand more my argument :)
2020-11-25 18:14
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#51
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Russia VelsVivard
I still struggle to be honest, but I'm certinaly misunderstood here. I'm not the one who initiated this conversation, I was just casually asking the fellow for the point of buffing M4 when it would be more preferable to nerf the certain pistols by a little margin. I'm fine with things as they are now.
2020-11-25 18:17
#58
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United States rifles
5-7 1 taps close
2020-11-25 18:23
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#61
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Portugal DaHunter
2020-11-25 18:24
you can oneshot with five-seven and tec-9 if you you are close enough
2020-11-25 18:13
#46
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United States Swadplan
both the 5-7 and the tek will onetap with helmet at close range, and even if they dont they do a shitton of damage
2020-11-25 18:15
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#54
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Portugal DaHunter
You right! But we are talking about point-blank range, I still stand by my initial point, they shouldn't buff the m4, it's not fair in the long way... Although I think that it should have the ability to kill with 1 shot point-blank, then both parties would be happy.
2020-11-25 18:20
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#57
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United States Swadplan
I don't think they need to buff the m4 either. I think they either need to buff defuse kit cost or incendiary cost, because right now CTs have to spend way more to have an inferior buy to the Ts.
2020-11-25 18:22
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#59
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Portugal DaHunter
That's a whole other topic, I think that ct economy should be reconsidered, it's not great.
2020-11-25 18:24
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#63
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United States Swadplan
To me it is just ridiculous how disadvantaged CTs are in the money department. Ts have a cheaper primary (ak vs m4), cheaper utility while it is arguably less important (moly vs incend), no need to buy kit, and an avenue to making extra money off round losses without the CTs needing to do anything (bomb plant).
2020-11-25 18:25
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#70
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Portugal DaHunter
Hmmm, ok I understand ur point, but we also have outside the economy department, the pre-position of the cts on the bombsite. And ts dont get rewarded money when the time runs out. I think the problem is related to loss bonus. If ts win 6 rounds in a row all of them get 10000 in bank, thus saying at least 2 of them survives. I think they should retink the whole economy of the game, it's a mess
2020-11-25 18:29
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#75
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United States Swadplan
but the position has limited effect when the Ts have such a weapons advantage. To me, the problem is just that Ts can have a solid buy much easier than the CTs. This stems from an economy issue, and honestly, the old economy was better.
2020-11-25 18:34
#20
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Portugal DaHunter
YES! That's why u need something called "skill" to use them, do u see a silver 1 talking about why the ak is superior to the m4? It's all about the economy, plays, and utilities, imagine a ct that has (if he wants) and a rifle that can kill in 1 shot? Why do u think people say "gg" when 5 cts have 5 aks? M4 and pistols that kill with 1 shot (only deagle with helmet (700$)) should stay that way.
2020-11-25 18:04
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#74
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Japan tatsumi
not talking about the deag, im referring to the five seven that costs only $500. the deag is perfect imo
2020-11-25 18:32
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#80
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Portugal DaHunter
2020-11-25 18:44
na noob
2020-11-25 17:59
#7
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Brazil Nappox
I think a price change would be great. This shit too expensive like wtf, $3100 and not a 1 headshot kill?
2020-11-25 17:59
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#14
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Japan tatsumi
if u get dinked by an m4 at close range but u manage to hs them with an ak you still have to consider it as a lost duel imo
2020-11-25 18:01
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#24
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Brazil Nappox
if you can do that i think its a win for you, considering that you can one tap everybody else with good aim and positioning. But i guess #12 is right, that would be too op.
2020-11-25 18:05
anyone else pissed off that $500 pistols can one shot close range but a $3000 gun can’t? i’ve lost so many duels cuz i dink someone 2 meters from me with an m4 then they manage to one tap me cuz they have an ak. honestly they need to make it so that the m4 can one tap heads at close range or sumn cuz this shit is bs
2020-11-25 18:00
CT's are not supposed to push. CT's have the advantage of site, T's are the ones who enter the site, without knowing the ct's position, giving an ak to a CT basically destroys T's. If you want an ak so much steal it from a T when you kill him.
2020-11-25 18:00
#11
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Canada JC_123
no. Five seven and deagle should be slightly nerfed though.
2020-11-25 18:01
3 replies
if ur gonna nerf five seven to not 1 shot at close range then thats basically expensive 500$ p250...
2020-11-25 18:04
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#37
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Canada JC_123
I think it should keep the excellent armour penetration but get a lower fire rate and kill reward. Maybe lower magazine size too but idk
2020-11-25 18:11
1 reply
i agree with the fire rate. I think it would be enough.
2020-11-25 18:13
#12
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Germany Effizienz
It makes sense, holding corners and just 1 shooting everyone would be too strong.
2020-11-25 18:01
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#17
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Japan tatsumi
i get ur point they just gotta nerf pistols instead
2020-11-25 18:03
i didnt think about that this way. now that im thinking about it ur right, u gotta give T's the chance to react.
2020-11-25 18:25
you just want to make the m4 an Ak
2020-11-25 18:04
6 replies
#29
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Japan tatsumi
i said close range where the guys literally right in front of you
2020-11-25 18:07
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#33
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China HEIDASHUAi
They could make it Ike the Aug, 1 tap , exactly 100 damage at close range
2020-11-25 18:09
1 reply
#66
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Japan tatsumi
exactly
2020-11-25 18:27
#39
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Canada JC_123
buy an aug
2020-11-25 18:12
2 replies
#50
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United States Swadplan
thats 3300, ridiculous amount to have to spend especially when utility is so key and you need at least a couple kits, while the ak is only 2700
2020-11-25 18:17
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#53
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Canada JC_123
only $200 more than a M4 for the scope and this extra HS potential bonus. That's just enough to give it a place in the game. Of course ak is cheaper that's exactly how its supposed to be.
2020-11-25 18:19
#34
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Romania Laskof
then use 500$ pistol and 1 shot everyone EZ
2020-11-25 18:09
1 reply
#48
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Turkey DodoMan47
+1
2020-11-25 18:15
I think it's fine they just need to fix CT economy
2020-11-25 18:13
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#68
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Japan tatsumi
maybe a $500 bonus for winning the round without the bomb getting planted
2020-11-25 18:28
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imo they should just fix the loss bonus. atleast so CT's don't have to hard eco as often
2020-11-25 18:37
As CT you start every round by having full map control on bombsites and in between. M4 not killing with a single headshot is a fair handicap.
2020-11-25 18:15
#49
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Canada firtlast
m4 should deal +20% damage through smokes, problemo solved
2020-11-25 18:16
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#67
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Japan tatsumi
smokestralis type beat
2020-11-25 18:27
#52
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
this thread gives me good memories
2020-11-25 18:17
#55
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United States oOMeowthOo
Just add tacticle bayonet on M4, replace the right click silencer take off with melee, has 2m range with normal knife kill bonus EZ
2020-11-25 18:20
#56
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Brazil BrokeN35
Kill a TR, get his AK. Problem Solved. Stay tunned for mor tips.
2020-11-25 18:22
Valve isnt going to buff or nerf anything. Nobody at valve gives a fuck about cs. Every dev at valve gets to decide what they work on and guess what. Nobody wants to work on cs. Gaben hates it valve hates it the players hate it. Cs has been shitty since the glory days of 2015 and it is only going to continue the downward trend that it's on.
2020-11-25 18:28
#71
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United Arab Emirates Emirates7
most of the maps are CT sided so if you buff the main CT weapon... /closed
2020-11-25 18:29
Use AUG like me bro
2020-11-25 18:30
#76
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United Kingdom justdam
just buy aug eejit
2020-11-25 18:36
I'm pissed off when hitting a hs with m4 and not killing enemy but if it would 1 tap in the head csgo would be unblanced - too easy to hold angles as a CT
2020-11-25 18:37
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#79
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Israel GrandpaZ
Exactly....and that's why this thread is nonsense.
2020-11-25 18:40
a1-s needs a buff (even if its just a separate slot from the a4), the normal m4a4 is fine
2020-11-25 18:46
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