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top 20 2020
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Brazil RevvivaL 
1. s1mple (1.29) 2. Zywoo (1.29) 3. BlameF (1.24) 4. Ropz (1.18) 5. Niko (1.19) 6. Device (1.18) 7. Syrson (1.16) 8. Yuurih (1.16) 9. Xantares 10. Kscerato (1.15) 11. electronic (1.14) 12. Stavn (1.14) 13. Breeze (1.16) 14. Hen1 (1.15) 15. Mir (1.23) 16. Elige (1.18) 17. Hunter (1.13) 18. JKS (1.15) 19. Teses (1.14) 20. Tabsen (1.12) Is my list shit? I feel like some players are to low, also magisk and dupreeh should probably be somewhere.
2020-11-26 20:48
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#1
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Brazil RevvivaL
9. Xantares (1.15)*
2020-11-26 20:49
very bad list, no coldzera?? Wtf
2020-11-26 20:49
6 replies
#11
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Brazil RevvivaL
sorry malta man
2020-11-26 20:51
5 replies
Now he isn't the happiest man from malta anymore mens((
2020-11-26 21:45
4 replies
#82
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Brazil RevvivaL
Rip mens((
2020-11-26 21:48
1 reply
rip
2020-11-26 22:03
how can you tell? do you know the other 3 maltese?
2020-11-27 03:25
1 reply
Yessir
2020-11-27 09:28
No player from NA should be mentioned here.
2020-11-26 20:49
4 replies
#14
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Brazil RevvivaL
Well hltv will consider them, so i kind of had to. Plus i am bias towards BR players.
2020-11-26 20:52
3 replies
No, hltv won't consider them, at least that high as you put, EU & NA is like sky and ground.
2020-11-26 20:53
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#33
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Brazil RevvivaL
Maybe not as high, but they will consider them, and at least 1 NA/BR player will be top 10
2020-11-26 20:57
#138
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Argentina WaSTe_D
you must have the same face as i have now, wtf hltv
2021-01-05 20:44
acor? syrson should be higher like 4th or something
2020-11-26 20:50
4 replies
#15
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Brazil RevvivaL
Forgot acor, dont know where to fit him, and syrson should probably be a bit higher.
2020-11-26 20:52
3 replies
-kcserato +acor
2020-11-26 20:54
2 replies
#31
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Brazil RevvivaL
potentially but ksc would be in their somewhere
2020-11-26 20:57
#66
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Brazil RevvivaL
I also just realized acor averages 0.99 against top 5 team, don't think he is getting top 20 and definitely not top 10.
2020-11-26 21:31
v$m > s0mple
2020-11-26 20:50
1 reply
#65
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Brazil RevvivaL
ofc
2020-11-26 21:30
3 brasilians? checks out
2020-11-26 20:50
4 replies
nt
2021-01-05 20:12
lmao
2021-01-05 20:40
lmao
2021-01-05 20:43
2 brazilians already
2021-01-05 20:51
BAITCERATO you mean also, s0mple ins't top 1
2020-11-26 20:50
Imagine thinking danish website will rank device below 5th place xd
2020-11-26 20:50
3 replies
#19
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Brazil RevvivaL
probably true xD
2020-11-26 20:53
Astralis site*
2020-11-26 20:54
well, danish site never put him (or any other danish for that matter) at #1 either
2020-11-27 03:26
ZywOo 1st I would say. More finals, and more (unofficial) MVPs. In any case, it will be decided with Blast Finals and IEM Finals.
2020-11-26 20:51
5 replies
+1 ZywOo deserves top 1
2020-11-26 20:53
Zywoo is ahead, but very slightly. Hair-thin difference at this moment. Here is an unbiased opinion: hltv.org/forums/threads/2384457/top1-202..
2020-11-26 21:01
3 replies
Thinner than elige's hair
2020-11-26 20:59
#54
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Brazil RevvivaL
Personally i think s1mple has a very thin advantage right now which could change very quickly, and I have an unbiased opinion on the two as far as i am aware.
2020-11-26 21:10
1 reply
Sure, I respect respectful people :) Taking only the Tier-1 EU tournaments: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. Taking both Tier1 and Tier1.5 EU and CIS Rmr events: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. PS: Check the map filters I added on the left.
2020-11-26 21:26
I don't think Furia will have 3 players in top 20 let alone 2 in the top 10. Mir in top 20 seems unlikely to me.
2020-11-26 20:52
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#25
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Brazil RevvivaL
mir has huge numbers even if it is in cis, he has to be there somewhere. I am 100% sure Ksc and Yuurih will be top 20, mabye not hen1 but mabye.
2020-11-26 20:54
2 replies
Hltv's ranking is confuse, so i'll not count him out, but I still doubt. And I believe Hen1 deserve more than Yuriih but hltv's ranking is confuse...
2020-11-26 20:58
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#48
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Brazil RevvivaL
Its very confusing for sure
2020-11-26 21:01
Broky needs to be in this list
2020-11-26 20:52
1 reply
#26
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Brazil RevvivaL
I wanted to put broky so bad...
2020-11-26 20:55
WRONG WRONG WRONG NIKO>ROPZ, AND ZYWOO AND SIMPLE CANNOT BE CONFIRMED TILL NEXT 2 TOURNMENTS
2020-11-26 20:53
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#30
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Brazil RevvivaL
Well so far s1mple > zywoo and ropz > niko this year, man is ropzsports
2020-11-26 20:56
2 replies
not really, vitality a lot of time in top 1 anddd niko won tournments
2020-11-26 21:39
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#77
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Brazil RevvivaL
Honestly it close between both simple and zywoo, aswell as between niko and ropz. I think ropz > niko, and s1mple > zywoo for 2020 so far.
2020-11-26 21:42
#23
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Peru devbot
no botky? Magisk?
2020-11-26 20:54
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#29
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Brazil RevvivaL
Welp i mentioned magisk should be in it, just dont know where.
2020-11-26 20:56
#24
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United States ILOVEFEET
brehze or trash list
2020-11-26 20:54
2 replies
#27
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Brazil RevvivaL
brehze is in it though... #13
2020-11-26 20:55
1 reply
#125
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United States ILOVEFEET
actually yeah that's pretty fair he was nerfed after sg got trashed
2020-11-27 03:32
#32
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Finland Jlu7
Allu?
2020-11-26 20:57
5 replies
#40
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Brazil RevvivaL
Ence has been SOOOOO shit this year
2020-11-26 20:59
4 replies
#62
xseveN | 
Finland Jlu7
Yeah ence has, but allu has been solid af. Always fragging, solid rating at top events even if ence fall out first.
2020-11-26 21:23
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#64
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Brazil RevvivaL
Allu has been solid (averaging a 1.11), but Ence has won nothing and haven't made deep runs, Allu would need 1.17+ for an achievement-less year to be in top 20.
2020-11-26 21:26
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#108
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Finland Ztla
I think being able to maintain a rating like that while your team is losing like 2/3 of its games is very impressive. Much harder to do than if the team around you was performing as consistently as you are and leading you to victories more often. But I don't rly know how hltv creates their list so if it places a lot of emphasis on the team's success then allu deffos won't make the cut.
2020-11-27 00:10
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#112
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Brazil RevvivaL
It mainly on stats but team achievement matter, players like mantuu or other apwers with higher ratings and better team achievement would make it above him, so i dont think he will make it.
2020-11-27 02:33
s1mple and zywoo is very close, both of them would deserve the #1 at the end of the year. Just dont listen to Russian and French kids and lets see how the last 2 events will go.
2020-11-26 20:58
1 reply
#39
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Brazil RevvivaL
It was very close, the start of the year katowice is what made my decision, but it could very quickly change at these last events.
2020-11-26 20:58
love you
2020-11-26 20:58
2 replies
#43
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Brazil RevvivaL
I have been hyping BlameF up since heroic days.
2020-11-26 20:59
1 reply
my man <3
2020-11-26 21:20
I haven't given it much thought yet, but I doubt mir or jks will be top 20 this year. it doesn't matter how good mir's numbers are, he has very few matches against top 10 teams.
2020-11-26 20:59
2 replies
#45
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Brazil RevvivaL
JKS was a reach from me, but i think mir will be in it, even if he is number 20.
2020-11-26 21:00
1 reply
look at his matches vs. top 10 teams though. there's 0 chance.
2020-11-26 23:32
#44
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Turkey Lukedmii
Change it to 1.Zywoo 2. S1mple then its all good kardes abi
2020-11-26 21:00
1 reply
#46
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Brazil RevvivaL
Maybe these last few events will change my mind
2020-11-26 21:00
Just understand it - IT IS NOT ABOUT RATING Player needs to have team success as well
2020-11-26 21:03
3 replies
#52
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Brazil RevvivaL
I took that into account, you could literally tell if you look at the list, I mentioned ratings because it is a HUGE portion of how hltv rates players.
2020-11-26 21:06
2 replies
If you did took that into account, Zywoo should've been first
2020-11-26 21:14
1 reply
#57
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Brazil RevvivaL
WHAT??? zywoo has won almost nothing, 1 win 5 grand finals (dont get me wrong, its impressive). However s1mple has won more and won an actual LAN (katowice) and won MVP for it, you cannot tell me that zywoo has won more than s1mple this year.
2020-11-26 21:15
Name checks out blah blah blah but I think Jks will be top 15. Since he has been playing in EU for a bit and won games (unlike furia players) I think he will be scaled a bit higher then the NA and BR players
2020-11-26 21:06
1 reply
#53
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Brazil RevvivaL
Maybe, but he won nothing in NA unlike EG and Furia players, so i think that will be taken into consideration. Eveyrthing checks out xD, but jks is a sick player.
2020-11-26 21:07
ZywOo top 1 though
2020-11-26 21:19
5 replies
#59
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Brazil RevvivaL
Its very close
2020-11-26 21:20
4 replies
yes but I think the last final proved it
2020-11-26 21:20
3 replies
#63
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Brazil RevvivaL
s1mple was statistically better in that final. Also 1mple won more this year and a LAN and LAN MVP. I don't think straight head to heads (vitality vs navi) actually affect the ranking, but i might be wrong.
2020-11-26 21:24
2 replies
s1mple didnt win more. Both of them won 1 tournaments (online lan doesnt matter, since online is what we had whole year), and zywoo had more grand finals + 3rd place finishes
2020-11-26 21:38
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#75
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Brazil RevvivaL
I think it will matter, maybe it wont. Regardless s1mple has won an MVP because of it and zywoo hasn't so that will matter.
2020-11-26 21:41
niko > ropz
2020-11-26 21:32
3 replies
and no trophy blamef
2020-11-26 21:32
2 replies
#69
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Brazil RevvivaL
huh, blameF has won a trophy this year and Ropz has been so good on a underperforming mousesports.
2020-11-26 21:34
1 reply
new york > blast series 1.26 rating vs top5 this year vs 1.18 for blamef ropz has also 0 tournament wins
2020-11-26 22:00
imo zywoo top1, and blamef should be lower since he hunted stats in tier3 home sweet home cups, maybe like top5-6 for him
2020-11-26 21:37
dupreeh should be on here somewhere
2020-11-26 21:40
1 reply
top 20 ecofraggers maybe
2020-11-26 21:41
hltv.org/stats/players/10981/mantuu?star.. Mantuu should be there too and also 1.14 rating against top5 teams
2020-11-26 21:40
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#78
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Brazil RevvivaL
Mabye but OG was very bad early 2020 and i dont think he had a better year than of of the players on the list. Anyone on the list you would replace with him?
2020-11-26 21:43
6 replies
idk but he has way better stats than tabsen atleast. Look tabsen rating against top 5 or top 10 in 2020
2020-11-26 21:44
5 replies
#81
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Brazil RevvivaL
Yea 100% better stats but tabsen has won so much more this year than mantuu I think he will be on the top 20 list unlike mantuu.
2020-11-26 21:47
4 replies
HLTV lists dont take team accomplishments that much in to consideration when doing player lists (from my observations), but yea I could be wrong.
2020-11-26 21:51
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#85
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Brazil RevvivaL
Not as highly as ratings but they do take accomplishments into consideration.
2020-11-26 21:54
2 replies
yea but lets see, I do like both players too and I hope they make it :)
2020-11-26 22:47
1 reply
#106
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Brazil RevvivaL
Yea, mantuu definitely has a decent argument to be in it.
2020-11-26 23:07
device is definitely above NiKo. There won't be three furia players in the top20. I also think there's a good case to be made for CadiaN on the 15-20 portion, leading his team to success while having a fairly good rating himself.
2020-11-26 21:51
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#86
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Brazil RevvivaL
I was thinking about CadiaN but i dont think he will make it. I may be biased towards furia, but i think yuurih and ksc will be in top 20 and i think hen1 might be in it to. Niko, device and ropz are sooo close so idk.
2020-11-26 21:55
2 replies
igl's (real ones, not niko), gets a tiny pass on ratings if the team is finding tournament wins and deep runs. Gla1ve got high ranking, above several players with a 0.05 (1.13 vs 1.18's) higher rating in 2018 for example. I think the same case can be made for cadian, as noone in their right mind expected heroic to play the way they have.
2020-11-26 22:00
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#92
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Brazil RevvivaL
Cadian is a good shout that i considered, i still don't think he will get it, but maybe a 15-20th place could happen. I would be very happy for CadiaN, I have liked him since the rouge days with Hiko
2020-11-26 22:02
8. Yuurih (1.16) 10. Kscerato (1.15) 14. Hen1 (1.15) how to spot a tard keep dreaming kiddo, they wont be even in top 30
2020-11-26 21:56
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#88
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Brazil RevvivaL
I am probably biased, however atleast 1 of them will be in top 20. Don't you think so? Especially if they get 1st-2nd at blast
2020-11-26 22:00
#131
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Brazil RevvivaL
so who is the tard now? they deff in top 30
2021-01-05 20:10
NiKo > ropz and blamef
2020-11-26 22:02
5 replies
#95
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Brazil RevvivaL
BlameF >> niko, ropz and niko arguable.
2020-11-26 22:04
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#98
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Brazil RevvivaL
no they don't?
2020-11-26 22:09
2 replies
ok, clearly it seems that you don't know how to analyse these stats and i bet you probably looked at rating 2.0 and saw that blamef's rating is higher than niko
2020-11-26 22:11
1 reply
#116
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Brazil RevvivaL
No, but s1mple's and zywoo's are litteraly so even that it doesn't show you who is better. Even if it did, at the point it would come down to team achievement and mvp's. Edit: i have no clue where my brain went while making this reply. did i mean to respond to someone else and replied here?
2020-11-27 02:41
10. kscerato baiter and 1.15 rating vs 16. elige entry and 1.18 rating yeah 0/8
2020-11-26 22:04
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#96
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Brazil RevvivaL
Sure, but elige won way less and that has to be taken into consideration
2020-11-26 22:07
2 replies
if we go by tournament winnings s1mple and zywoo shouldve been below device and elige last year hltv is mostly based off individual form
2020-11-26 22:19
1 reply
#105
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Brazil RevvivaL
Furia dominated NA, i think 0.3 extra rating isnt enough for elige to get higher than ksc. 2019: elige 1.21, device, 1.22, s1mple 1.30, zywoo 1.32. The differance between the 4 is way more than the differance of elige and ksc.
2020-11-26 23:06
nah too many "irrelevant" names there, more big tournament winners will come, not only by rating
2020-11-27 00:06
2 replies
#113
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Brazil RevvivaL
who is an "irrelevant" name? All of those played t1 NA/EU cs expect for mir.
2020-11-27 02:34
1 reply
not so many furia players in top 20, smurfing against NA half the year counts almost nothing
2020-11-27 10:20
XANTARES 9TH Perfect list 8/8 /closed
2020-11-27 00:08
1 reply
#115
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Brazil RevvivaL
Edit: /open XANTARES has to be top 10 with all BIG won, no question. Edit: /closed
2020-11-27 02:38
NiKo 3, Elige over dogshit stavn and hen1 and breehze and kscerato. edit: just put elige over any dogshit washed up na player or heroic onliners.
2020-11-27 00:12
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#114
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Brazil RevvivaL
Well heroic might be onliners and all but that is what the list is on so... also #6-3 all could end up changing with each other, but I think it would happen something along that order. Both my bosnian friends said niko #3... wonder why.
2020-11-27 02:37
BnTeT ?
2020-11-27 02:42
2 replies
#119
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Brazil RevvivaL
you mean best polish player??
2020-11-27 03:18
1 reply
yeah mate
2020-11-27 03:38
Zyw0o>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>s0mple
2020-11-27 02:59
3 replies
#120
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Brazil RevvivaL
simple > zywoo edit: s1mple* lol
2020-11-27 03:19
2 replies
Brain dead? Lmao
2020-11-27 03:31
1 reply
#126
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Brazil RevvivaL
no, its very close, but i think s1mple has been better.
2020-11-27 03:32
#121
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Bulgaria goshyy
Gotta say that's a really good list!
2020-11-27 03:22
1 reply
#127
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Brazil RevvivaL
thanks mans))
2020-11-27 03:32
#133
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Romania ukhcsgo
S1mple won't take #1 spot just because he undeserves that. ZywOo got 6 mvp while s1mple only 2... Both 1.29, but impact, opening and KAST ZywOo is better, vitality also won more championships than navi
2021-01-05 20:17
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#134
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Brazil RevvivaL
Navi #2 team, Vita #3, if were talking about team success you cant argue zywoo was better. Stats wise its close but im not sure who is wining it anymore.
2021-01-05 20:19
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#135
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Romania ukhcsgo
both are Gods ... I don't see reasons to hltv gives S1mple the top 1, however nothing is impossible
2021-01-05 20:38
1 reply
i disagree with hltv putting navi #2 and vita #3, that's my opinion but it's hltv giving the rankings and they've been overrating iem katowice 2020 so i would lean s1mple
2021-01-05 20:47
Going way too much by rating
2021-01-05 20:53
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