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Bosnia and Herzegovina hercegoVAC_ 
Here is what confuses me about monotheistic religions, they're all based on same principles. Islam was born in 7th century, and believers think that there were 25 prophets before Muhammad, including Jesus and David himself (renamed to Isa and Davud). I am muslim and I was never able to understand this whole "25 prophets" thing... I mean do they think that Jesus was muslim or smth?!?! This is just example, all monotheistic religions are based on similar "stories" and "legends"... When I read Bible and compared it to Quran I was suprised to see how many stories were basically same... So here is my theory on religions: Stories and legends from "holy books" of "modern religions" were basically taken over from older civilizations(like Egypt, Mesopotamia etc.) and they were transmitted and transformed into different versions. discus9
2020-11-26 23:57
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Europe TheDankLord
Lizzard people.
2020-11-26 23:59
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Reptilian humanoids?
2020-11-27 00:00
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Europe TheDankLord
Exactly. The only thing to believe in.
2020-11-27 00:01
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+1 reptilians humanoids are the reason we are alive till this date
2020-11-27 00:10
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nice try reptilian humanoid get back to your planet please ty
2020-11-27 12:55
2020-11-27 00:03
I don't know why nature is not a God, there is much more evidence that we came from it than a divine being
2020-11-27 00:03
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we def came from nature, a creator might exist , god from the bibl0 doesnt exist
2020-11-27 00:12
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This, basically. "The creator" might simply be impossible to comprehend while stuck in three dimensions, but it's also replicated within our universe (like with everything else from micro to macro) as the great void of nothingness, which spawned everything in our bubble we call the universe. So if you want to imagine "the creator" you should think of darkness instead of light, endless sea of possibilities, a bubble of all possible information from which everything manifests.
2020-11-27 09:01
We laugh at people who worship nature and not some sky god lol
2020-11-27 10:30
There are no 25 prophets. There are 30 prophets. Muhammad = 30th
2020-11-27 00:06
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Switzerland Jaksin
30 different guys named Muhammad?
2020-11-27 00:09
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no They're all different names. Among them is Jesus, Moses
2020-11-27 00:09
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jesus was musim?
2020-11-27 00:13
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2020-11-27 00:14
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then why is he considered as an islam prophet
2020-11-27 00:15
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a prophet is somebody who is believed to be in contact with god. christians, jews and muslims basically believe in the same god and mohammed and jesus thus spoke with the same god, its just that mohammed "created" a new religion because he didn't agree with some believes of christianity.
2020-11-27 00:19
No, quran just talking about 25 prophets in it. not all muslims
2020-11-27 00:21
There are more than 30 prophets. Are you a Muslim?
2020-11-27 05:00
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2020-11-27 12:37
Islam/Christianity/Judaism are variations of the same root religion
2020-11-27 00:10
Yeah, sure. Many Christian holidays were adaptation of pagan holidays (to better spread of the religion). Christmas itself is in the day it is because it was meant to overshadow a big pagan holiday. (solestice If I'm not mistaken) Every religion takes something from "old" ones. Rome's mithology is pretty much a rip-off of Greek mithology for example
2020-11-27 00:12
"This is just example, all monotheistic religions are based on similar "stories" and "legends"... When I read Bible and compared it to Quran I was suprised to see how many stories were basically same..." well yeah because they have the same origins? jesus was a jew, his followers are called christians. jesus christ is a seen as a prophet in islam, not as the son of god. its believed that mohammed knew a lot about christianity and judaism and adopted many of their rituals and believes. he actually believed that muslims and christians are very smiliar but he didnt agree with christianities idea of trinity, as for him it meant that christians believe in 3 gods, not in one
2020-11-27 00:17
the reason the bible and Quran are slightly similar is that the one who wrote it, aka Muhammed, was a merchant and had caravans with his uncle and father, went in Israel and other places, and combined the religions into one. Also, the bible was written was so many people over thousands of years and all of these stories in the bible all connect to one story namely Christ's sacrifice for us. So your "theory" about religions coming from older civilizations is true when it comes to Islam, but not the bible.
2020-11-27 00:27
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United States ProPizzza
Where the hell did ya get this from? His father died before he was born lmao. He did not write it but we all have our beliefs.
2020-11-27 04:40
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srry i meant he had caravans that his father and uncle ran. I knew he died before he was born. thx for pointing that out
2020-11-27 07:11
+1 I can confirm about caravans. But I don't think Christianity is original, cuz as I said I belive that a lot of stories can be found in other older civilizations
2020-11-27 05:33
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2020-11-27 07:18
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the christian flood narrative is based partly on the epic of gilgamesh. there are too many parts about the flood & the boat that are so similar that they can't be ignored.
2020-11-27 12:52
Most convenient example would be afterlife/hell&heaven. Because most ancient religions belived in it (Egypt, Mesopotamia etc.)
2020-11-27 16:45
if we're talking about originality we'd need to talk about judaism instead of christianity. christianity after all is just a much more successful branch of judaism. it turns out that writing an ethnocentric nationalistic mythos doesn't really appeal to anyone else but the jews. in fact some gospels in the new testament were written just to appeal to a larger roman audience. just better marketing i guess.
2020-11-27 13:03
The Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon Him) was unable to read or write. He could not have simply read the Bible and wrote the Quran without knowledge of others. As for the caravan trip, that was when he was a younger kid, I doubt he could remember all of the stories of the Prophets from the trip and then 25-30 years later announce that he is a Prophet and know each Prophet and what they did.
2020-11-27 07:33
the bible is just a book of stories told by random people nobody should take it serioulsy lol especially not 2000 years later religions are dumb believe in yourself and don't wait for things to happen magically just cos u pray long hours lmao
2020-11-27 00:29
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India Yomama003
2020-11-27 00:36
But isn't it amazing how during the span of 1300+ years 35-40ish people wrote the bible, which all tells one complete story of hope and salvation, comfort and joy? Name one teaching of the bible which is evil and degrading.
2020-11-27 07:25
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the bible is not written by 35-40 people... the scriptures found is translations of translations of stories told for many many years... Only the educated and upper class had knowledge to write in those times...
2020-11-27 08:27
this "god" literally killed millions of people and nobody talks about it (eg.: Noah) but act like it was all great and he did the right thing i don't care really but people who believe the shit that's in the bible are mentally ill
2020-11-27 10:29
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Also isn't there mentioning about earth being flat in the Bible or I am wrong???
2020-11-27 16:42
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yeah lmao
2020-11-27 17:00
The Quran borrows from the Bible in the sense that Islam came after the time of Jesus (yes I know about Ishmael, but I mean "modern" Islam). (Hopefully I remember this right because I'm too lazy to look it up) Muhammed was a heretical Christian sometime around the 6th century AD when he started what is today known as Islam. Of course the similarity between Judaism and Christianity is obvious, up until the time of Jesus where the paths diverge.
2020-11-27 00:42
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Do you have any proof for that?
2020-11-27 04:58
He wasn’t close to a Christian, although he did meet and engaged with a lot of them.
2020-11-27 07:34
yes. some ancient civilizations exchange information constantly. most of the histories we're symbolic explanations of the reality, but idolatry blinded people.
2020-11-27 00:43
Islam, Christianity and Judaism all are Abrahamic religions meaning they all began in the same place, most of the have a first half which is very similar to eachothers and then they have a second half which is not the same as the others, for Christianity this is the Old Testament and the New Testament
2020-11-27 00:46
"Islam was born in 7th century" why would you believe a rip-off then wtf
2020-11-27 00:49
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Muslims don’t believe that Islam started from the 7th century, we believe that Islam was the first religion, starting from Adam (Peace be Upon Him) to Muhammad (Peace and Blessings upon Him). That is because the most fundamental and important part of Islam is monotheism, and all the Prophets and Massagers came to send the message of monotheism.
2020-11-27 07:46
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haha thats silly
2020-11-27 12:11
Islam was born in 7th century-fact No such a term has ever been mentioned before 7th century... Problem is once agian how do you prove that it's only real monotheistic religion. Only logical explanation would be that "original Islam" was edited or recorrected and that's how Christianity was born... But once again there is no any proof surrounding it
2020-11-27 16:39
Germany I_car
All religions today (or most) are rip-offs of rip-offs
2020-11-27 12:46
Lebanon Dogman69
Muslims respect prophet Issa (Jesus) the most because he plays counter strike
2020-11-27 00:52
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2020-11-27 01:14
Reason many religions have much of the same stuff is because all religion is man made. once you accept that part. that religion in its basic have nothing to do with anything devine or godly. Its made by men to govern men. And to prosper and thus gain more power they use stories and former religions so people who knows those religions and stories can see them self in the new religion.. Many things in religion stories have a natural start and like all major impact thing, that turns into folk lore. and that inturn is then used to write stories for religion to steer people into that religion. Again a point to why the same stories goes again.. Noahs ark and the simular stories in other religions is based on a known flooding of the black sead after the ice wall at the end of the last ice age broke in canada releasing a lot of water, forming the canadian lakes, rushing the ocean filling in through the strait of gibralter breaking the land near now Istanbul filling up what was just a lake at the time. that place was a place where people settled, it was their entire known world getting flooded. that story is then passed on, untill religion then used them and twist them into what they want to tell. All religion is written by man, to get other men to follow it to gain power over them. we know a lot about who wrote them, why and where and how it was all decided. Also why its fun people actually think religion and faith have anything to do with each other. but that is a different story. However that is why many religions have the same people and stories, because those stories come from peoples past, so it makes sense to use them to get people to follow your religion, and also if you can use parts from other already known religions it becomes easier for "new" people to accept it.
2020-11-27 01:23
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Germany I_car
2020-11-27 12:45
Great read That makes a lot of sense. Noah's ark is great example. Religion learns us that was god's punishment and warning for people but it reality it was just tsunami or whatever. It makes a lot of sense as to why people back than thought that tsunami was "supernatural" and "god's making", it's because people didn't know any logical explanation to it, same goes for earthquakes and volcanos. Since there is no explanation for them "on the surface", people thought it was supernatural. Which resulted in believing of God-"the one who is able to do anything"..
2020-11-27 16:35
Religion is for people who want simple solution for complex problems
2020-11-27 01:25
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good point, also, imo, people have a need to explain things, back in the day it was easy and logical to explain rain, change of seasons etc by just imagining an almighty power that controls everything and naming it God
2020-11-27 01:32
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Lebanon Dogman69
there was no google search or wikipedia then
2020-11-27 01:51
Three of them are product of Middle East religion tradition. Just three brunches of one Abrahamic religion.
2020-11-27 04:28
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Russia win73ry
Yeah, and people still think christianity is an European religion, and there was no culture before it.
2020-11-27 07:20
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Germany I_car
+1 Greek, Roman and Nordic mythology is true European religion
2020-11-27 12:43
You know that there is a reason why all three are called Abrahamic religions right?
2020-11-27 04:36
Brazil _Awper
God bless you all, Good night.
2020-11-27 05:14
That's because Christianity and Islamic are both Abrahamic religions. Most pointless thread on HLTV ever, idk if I got baited.
2020-11-27 05:31
Germany Effizienz
Too much text for my small head sry
2020-11-27 05:49
isn't shinto technically monotheistic, or are spirits not technically viewed as gods?
2020-11-27 06:00
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Well if they associate partners with God, they can’t be monotheistic. If they call onto a shrine or a grave seeking for help from a dead person or something else, that is paganism or polytheistic.
2020-11-27 07:36
Europe SBC|SG_TS
some things really does not make sense in religions so i dont believe them at all i think god does not exist or he/she exists but does not care about humanity
2020-11-27 06:14
We believe that all the Prophets and Messengers have been sent from God. Each and every nation has been sent a Prophet. We believe Jesus and Moses are a prophet. There are way more than 25 prophets. I believe there was hadith that said 300,000 prophets, but I might be wrong. The Bible accuses the prophets of major sins, such as idol worshipping or even adultery. The Quran has a more befitting view of the Prophets. Have you considered they are the similar because they came from the same source(God)? Jesus indeed was a Muslim. Muslim means to submit yourself to God, isn’t that was Jesus did? We also believe that he came and told his people of Islamic monotheism.
2020-11-27 07:30
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Found out there is no exact number of Prophets, as the hadiths were graded weak according to scholars so ignore the 300,000. However, I hope this Quran verse helps: “And there never was a nation but a warner had passed among them” [Faatir 35:24]
2020-11-27 07:40
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Great explanation
2020-11-27 16:28
Who cars men life should be free, i registered as a catholic but never goes to sunday prayer ever since i live separatedly from my parents. My life has been more fun and free since i dont need to sing nonsense every week and pay damn bishops my hard earned money P.s im not atheist, i believe heartfully in money i guess you could call me moneytheist
2020-11-27 07:34
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Germany I_car
I car
2020-11-27 12:20
I am registered as muslim and my parents make me pray a lot even if I'm not willing...
2020-11-27 16:26
this is whats missing. yes there are 30 prophet well-known but it actually more than that, it just that 30 is written in Quran. and prophet Isa (or jesus for you) is not Islam but he is muslim meaning he is Allah's servant, and every prophet has a task to fix a civilization or era and prophet Muhammad is the last prophet from Allah and leave Quran for guidance because there would be no prophet send to the world. and when you see stories in Bible and Quran is actually same because its sent from the same source which is Allah the almighty god. and to choose which is good it has to be Quran since it the latest holy book from the latest prophet (so many argument in here but im gonna point this one out)
2020-11-27 08:32
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2020-11-27 10:36
+1 Thank you for explanation
2020-11-27 12:14
2020-11-27 16:28
all religion is good /closed
2020-11-27 10:38
Germany I_car
Jews, Christians and Muslims all believe in same God. Jews believe the Messiah hasn't arrived, Christians think Jesus is the Messiah and idk if Muslims think it's Mohammed or they just view him as the most important prophet. They also have some differences in their beliefs, but you can see differences between different types of Christians too for example. Also Judaism tradition (which influences Christianism and Islam) is influenced by other religions and beliefs that were around during the creation of Judaism
2020-11-27 12:19
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Islam also believe in Jesus (Isa) as a 'Messiah' he will come back to earth to kill the anti Christ (false Messiah)
2020-11-27 13:37
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2020-11-27 16:25
I bible isn't 100% original, so yea, you're right. That's not even a hot take, just facts
2020-11-27 12:53
the bible by now is probably rewritten 500000 times.
2020-11-27 13:00
Europe Pts
That's not really ur theory... that's actually how it is :D
2020-11-27 16:29
Ukraine ksay
no shit lmao i remember there were some soviet books that showed how monotheistic religions basically stole stories and symbolism from the pagan ones at the end of the day it's a product of culture
2020-11-27 16:30
Religion is the dumbest thing ever
2020-11-27 16:39
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