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Really well done by Heyzeus, definitely a story that needs to be remembered. Mental health is a bitch and needs to be treated seriously
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True but this is an example of how mental illness should be treated more seriously.
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it was a perfect storm of unfortunate circumstances tbh, but regardless of how much blame you attribute to the police officers who didnt take the warning seriously, you can't absolve mcskillet in any way. thats all on top of his active role, imo, in promoting and profiting off a system that roped far too many kids into gambling at too young an age (many of my friends watched mcskillet and would roulette skins in maths class)
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The cops really fucked up and gambling should be banned
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gambling should be banned?? shut the fuck up, just because you lose all the time 😂
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Never gambled once, just looking out for young kids and those who cant afford the los s
Gambling shouldn't be banned. However, illegal gambling sites should, especially if they target underaged kids like the csgo ones.
this video is not about respecting McSkillet, its about remembering what he did in the game and realising how to prevent another thing like this happening again
gambling should be banned
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+1 if you meant gambling for underage kids
No,gambling isnt the problem,people cant control themselves,that is the real problem.
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You think a kid fully understands the consequences of gambling?
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then all the match pages on hltv will be with 0 comments
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better than having constant bettors crying 24/7.
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yes, i know
murderer doesn't deserve any sympathy just by pulling the 'mental health' card
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there is a difference between excusing and explaining his actions. I can explain Hitler's actions without saying that he was right in doing the things he did.
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not a signle person says that it justified his actions, the point is that the fact that his mental illness could get that unchecked that he killed someone and himself, it's absolutely sickening and could be fixed before the tragic outcome conspires.
The sympathy is there because I doubt he wanted to lose his mind and control over his brain. resulting in the death of a kid and mother...
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this becomes a philosophical matter.. how wrong is a person acting under the impression that he is right? having said that, we can't tell how screwed up is the head of a mentally ill person and how he justifies his actions himself.. my brother had a similar problem but he thought for some reason that truck drivers were trying to kill him.. on an episode, he left our home and almost died in a pond trying to cross it because he thought people were chasing him, luckily someone saw him struggling and called the cops - his situation could've gone the same way as it happend to mcskillet as far as i know
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not really comparable since your brother didnt pull any outsiders into it or at least didnt put them into any danger, what mcskillet did was not justifiable. Just because mcskillet might not have realized how much harm he did to family members etc doesnt make it any less of a despicable "crime" so to say. All i can say is, people need to take mental health serious and people who have issues need some form of treatment so theyll prevent harm for themselves and relatives
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the point is that he might not have even been aware of what he was doing and possible outcomes (driving on the wrong side, etc) because people under certain episodes loses sense of reality, reason, logic, whatever.. my brother, for example, has absolutely no memory of what happened and denies it to this day - i was the one that went to take him home, if i didn't saw it for my self, i'd be prone to believe in him considering how truthful he feels when he denies it. if we approach this like if he was thinking "hey, i want to kms, so fuck it" then i agree that he is a murderer at least out of negligence, but a person in such bad state might be so out of himself that even basic concepts are lost or scrambled. This of course doesn't invalidate what happene, how it happened and how f'd up this was for the other parties involved, but this does raise a whole new subtopic for this matter instead of simply pinning him as the devil who murdered
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but now try and tell me why we shouldnt look down on him for his actions? Of course he wasnt in his best mental state at that point but why do people try and find ways to sympathize with him or find excuses for it. Doesnt make sense to me. Also your brother still has way different conditions than mcskillet, but whatever thats not who this is about xd
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because this is how we fix things. it's not about sympathy or finding excuses, but find out what and how we can deal with it and looking down on it gets in the way
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thats not my point, you should look down on mcskillet and him not taking responsibility for his illness, im not saying that you should generally look down on those people since its not their fault for said mental conditions. This thread and what im saying is specifically on mcskillet. Im all for equal treatment for everyone and who has special needs etc should be able to have those met
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I know he should never be forgiven, but I'm sure someone like that never even knew what they were doing until after that split second before the car exploded and he died. Mental illnesses completely shadow your mind, to the fact you even don't know what you're doing. It's like a black out after a night of hardcore drinking. I bet if he had a choice, he would not have killed innocent family. But, it was too late, he needed help that day right there and then. No excuses for the guy, but it all could've been avoided. Mental illness controls you, so it's hard to say wheter or not he wanted to kill someone with him.
oh trust me i have empathy but i don't respect those who are too set in their ways that they ignore the undeniable medical facts that have shown that he was not right in the head. there is a reason mentally ill people dont get sentenced as prisoners but get sent to asylums and reform centers. there is a reason that happens. even the brother and son of the mum and daughter said that he cannot blame mcskillet for his actions as he was not right in the head. mental health is a serious issue. it is not a joke. if you want to call him a murderer take him to court and tell me when youve made him go to jail posthumously. otherwise, try not to post on topic that are very touchy with the opinion of a boomer living in the 1920's im not excusing the actions that he did and im not saying the family should not be grieved. what i am saying is you are an idiot to ignore the facts right in front of you. grow up. move on. learn.
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was ur argument really telling me to take him to court LMAO
i never denied him having mental problems or stated that he didn't, i never even said that the mental problems weren't influencing his actions either. I am clearly just stating that it doesn't fucking excuse murder? I also never mentioned sending him to prison?? Why are both of you putting words in my mouth when all I said was that I don't respect him and nothing no one would say would justify the murder.
Do we justify child rapists because of their clear lack of a solid mental state? Whats the difference with a murderer?
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sad, man.. i had a case of sudden mental illness in the family, it's very weird and very hard to tell what is actually happening.. very, very sad
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Indeed proves he didn't even know what was quite going on. Obviously, no respect for him, but knowing the fact he had a manic episode that day, can only mean that he did not quite understand what he was about to do, and was not in the sane mind. Can't blame someone for that, because I don't think he would ever want to kill that mother and a son, and probably choose another way to kill himself instead.
one correction - he didnt argued with his parents, he said to his mother he was not ok and that he must leave, both parents were trying to reason with him until he runs away and the rest follows
edit: this is how it is described in the video, anyways
good video and mcskillet is nice men)) made very good videos))
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if u wish death for someone u are piece of crap mens))
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u don't have to respect him but also why to wish death to anyone? it's not ok mens
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well now I can see it I misunderstood..sorry then mens my bad, have a good day))
He had some severe mental issues where he never even knew what he was doing, as you can hear in the video, the parents tried to get cops to arrest him after he tried to assault them, and had a manic episode. Someone with a manic episode does not know whats going on, so him just wanting to die, I dont even think he figured out how, before he did what he did. The dude was in a psychic state where he did not do what a sane person would. He had a manic episode, meaning he most likely just did not even know what he was doing.
His video on Phantonl0rd was also really nice. I wonder if hes gonna do zipeL or DonHaci next.
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DonHaci is not known for his skins, while this channel is all about skins. Heyzeus focuses on that sort of content.
Never seen the first clip of him in the school that he crashed into minutes before the suicide on the highway. You can see how mentally unstable he was right there and then.
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very messed up situation remember reading about it the day it happened. while it is ofcourse very sad for mcskillets parents i still stand by the fact that mcskillet shouldn't get any sort of pity or atleast he wont get any from me. i think its fucked up that you can excuse this behaviour and the death of a mother and her young daughter because he had mental issues. mental issue is no joke, but at the same time it doesnt excuse murder
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not pity nor removing his responsibility, but just demonizing him won't get us anywhere near of preventing this in the future.
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yea in a perfect scenario he would have been in a mental asylum, but this wasnt a perfect scenario at all, not for anyone. honestly the parents and the cop needs to be blamed aswell for not taking it as serious as they should have. its hard to imagine how quickly someone can become so fucked up in the head that they can end up doing something like this...
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sometimes, the people near are as confused as the patient :/ parents can take a long time to realize it and cops can't do shit because they can't detain a person based solely on reports of mental instability.. fucked up situation, this whole situation apparently happend in less than a week
yesterday i shared my experience on #17 this should give you my full pov of this..
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geez, that sounds horrible having somebody so close to you having thsese problems cant really imagine it. i used to work on a gamlehjem before (not sure what its called in english) and i remember having an experience with a patient there who suffered from a personal dissorder of some sort and couldnt even leave her room at all, was actually pretty scary hearing her talking to herself sometimes i remember it really opened my view on some of these extreme conditions.
i think schools should be better at teaching about these things, not necessarily just so people realize that something might be wrong with them if they are experiencing thsese syptoms or whatever but also so when you see people are acting different from what they are used to over a longer period of time they can actually take action. as we can see these things might not only affect the sick one but also people that had nothing to do with it.
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dude, it's really fucked up. imagine you are very close, intimate, to someone for decades - you know him as much as you know yourself, and then out of nowhere this person changes abruptally, starts having weird behaviour and saying the most absurd things you can think of - like a posession, but he says in a way that you can tell that he is not lying, nor joking, he is dead serious, looking you in the eyes, freighened and telling you fucked up things.. What to do? This is why the parents are usually the ones that have the most trouble in recognizing this, because although they do understand that something is wrong fairly easily, they don't know what is happening, why is happening nor how to deal with it.. first they think it's drugsand than they start to consider other possibilities.. by this time, the person under this illness is already with his defenses high and with major paranoia - how will you convince him to seek treatment, when he thinks that everyone is plotting against him?
crazy times..
this is why i defend that we need to understand fully what happend in cases such as mcskillet's because albeit people might think it's about sympathyzing, this is the only way i can think of for understanding this and educating people about how this works in order to minimize or prevent it
i think its bm to start video with that video at the start
just another stupid ass human that thought that he could be like the big fish and make a living off of bets
Hope the son of a bitch rots in hell
I like how people jump on the band wagon and starts pointing finger when they know nothing themselves.
And ironically these are the exact same reasons why people with mental health issue choose not to open up themselves to others because they know for sure that if they do speak up, they will just get verbally abused, harassed, emotionally humiliated. This returns more hate and the feeling of retaliation intensify, tragedy like this occur. People that gets bullied before, knows this very well.
Not everyone have high EQ like people on HLTV, people are free to open up about losing big $ to gambling through loan shark, staying calm and figuring out solution.
When things go to sht, people resort to suicide immediately and possibly take someone else with them because at the moment this is what his/her brain spontaneously say so. If McSkillet is driving reverse direction, he probably has some issue with certain people but he can't murder that particular person so he RNG'd it.
A person might be ugly, bad, stupid, but you do not have to gang up and point out to their face it's bad to be bad. Leave people alone.
It's never cool to hate, but even worse when you gang up to hate just because you want to gain further publicity.
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