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Cloud9 looked pretty good in their game against NiP, but I never understood why NiP were the favourites in that game. C9's star players like es3tag and woxic have been playing well, as well as a suprising game from floppy. With that said, I dont think C9 are going to take a map from Complexity. I still believe the 2 maps that will be played are going to be close (16-10+), but Complexity just havbe better players, as well as a better structure. ALEX is looking rough atm since he doesnt have Zyw0o to carry him.
blameF >>> ALEX
Jks >> Es3tag
RUSH = Floppy
Poizon < Woxic (recent form, but it think Poizon has a high skill ceiling)
K0nfig >>> Mezii
The blameF, K0nfig and Jks trio look very promising and given the amount of time they have played together, they have taken down some of the biggest names in CS atm.
I'd expect Nuke to be picked by C9, but looking at Complexity's vetos, they have been picking Mirage and Inferno, so the veto is very unpredictable. The only way I see Complexity lose this is if they dont prepare hard enough for this matchup, but seeing how dedicated blameF is, im sure this wont be an issue.
TL;DR: 2-0 Complexity but both maps competitive.
good read!
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responding to your own thread.... oof.
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never before done!
good read!
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yes!
The Juggernaut and the Collossus are two completely differently structured teams, one is mainly firepower based, while the other has more teamplay elements than individual pop off. All that being said, Complexity will smash them if Floppy has a bad game. Mezii has sorta low impact, woxic consistently good, ALEX a bot lol, and es3tag is the solid consistency one needs, but not worth 2.1 million
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id love to see C9 success, i just dont see it happening in the next few months
I think there is a mistake while placing floppy as support. That guy can be insane and being honest es3tag has not as high peek. Imo es3tag should be the support
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For him to be support they would`ve spent 4.2 million on him
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I know and I find this price unreasonable, I just dont feel like he could be a superstar
Floppy is absolutely way better than fucking rush lmao
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because of one game? nt
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no because of the stats. Rush doesn't even have a fucking 1 rating on the year.
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smithzz is also a major winner. that doesn't mean much in terms of current form.
floppy can be star and carry, just if the IGL would structure it accordingly
Ok Rush>S0mple
I will admit that
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cheers
floppy>rush
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RUSH brings more to the team, while still doing decent. floppy either has a good game or he doesnt
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either has a good game or he doesn't. 8/8 analysis. i get what you mean though, his impact is inconsistent.
Clash of Trash,where Jason Lake's trash will win 2-0
And then rekted by mouz
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nah, even if c9 win nuke, col win other 2 maps
Stopped reading at
but I never understood why NiP were the favourites
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nip stink
NiP is terrible, not a single standout player
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unlike chrisj who is standing out as worst rated awp in game
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8x more trophies on his own than all NiP players combined lmao
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ofc he has 8x more
nip 5 youngsters
chrisj 50 years old
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8x more than any current NiP player will ever have**
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oooooooooouuu
now we talkin
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Gonna be a blow out. 16-6 16-9 col
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i hope so
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Oh well how the turntables brate 😔 that was a choke and a half
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LOL
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very good analysis mens))
I think complexity could struggle if c9 picked vertigo (performance vs nip)
but still ez 4 col on the other two maps
(poizon<woxic because woxic can bait alex and es3tag )
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cheers, but i doubt c9 will be vertigo. id love to see that map tho
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thats true
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we will see
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Why would I delete the thread?
Colossus = bad
Juggernaut = good
Juggernaut > colossus
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+1
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i want a 6 digit salary for my incredible knowledge
Col will smack these bots
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+111111
NIP is placeholder top 10 team and cloud 9's only 3rd match, obviously you pick NIP
Also comparing konfig with mezii and floppy with Rush did the bloodflow in your brain stop or you forgot how roles work?
Also woxic skill ceiling is higher even on a poizon good day
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flair checks out, poizon best bulgarian awper
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Well that makes no sense im not talking about CerQ
He has higher ceiling than CerQ too but his consistency is worse
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where is the in-depth in all of this? I clicked expecting reasoning towards gameplans, player skills, etc and all I got is "Because I feel so"
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Don’t trust match analysis when the op supports one of the teams because it’s always going to be biased
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you think c9 win?
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No way is C9 going to win, I think that it will be competitive and maybe they’re going to take it to 3 maps but I expect one map to be a stomp with col winning.
I love C9 and I support my uk boys but I can still see things from just the eye test unlike you, who is telling me Poizon is better than woxic form a skill ceiling point of view, something woxic has been renowned for.
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obviously viewing who is a better player is objective. from what ive seen, poizon is top a 3 AWPer in the world when he is in form. woxic could definitely be the same. It's not like i said that woxic was a shitter and poizon is gonna floss on him. "Don’t trust match analysis when the op supports one of the teams because it’s always going to be biased"- What you just predicted there, is exactly what i said lol, so how is it biased??
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Yes I think my phrasing has wrong, by player analysis you are far off but the match analysis Is alright. Personally I think Poizon is a bit overrated and hasn’t really performed up to the standard that he’s expected to. He has seriously shit the bed sometimes unlike woxic who is a little more consistent, yes he is a skilled player but I only see him being a true rival to woxic when he stops being so aggressive and plays a bit smarter.
It’ll be closer than anyone expects, I think. Complexity, like Astralis, is notorious for antistratting and C9 is still a new roster with not a lot to learn from. I agree with BlameF being a better IGL than ALEX, but we also saw CoL struggle many times against T2 and under teams, just as Astralis struggled against the new Mibr roster. I think Cloud9 can take a map off if poizon or k0nfig aren’t on form today. In any case, CoL takes it but it’ll depend on those 2 players on how easy it’ll be.
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thats true, will be an interesting game
Why are you comparing RUSH to floppy, you should be comparing RUSH to mezii and floppy to konfig, do you not know the roles? Also there is no way on earth floppy is equal to RUSH. Have you seen how floppy 31 fragged against nip on vertigo, their best map, that is amazing considering he only had 2 games in eu at that point. Also woxic arguably has the highest skill ceiling only beaten by zywoo, Device and simple. The guy was banging so hard at the end of 2019 it was unbelievable.
BlameF is definitely a good IGL but in terms of IGLing he actually plays a lot more for himself then for the team, which is not an inherently bad thing but ALEX can show what he can do with the right pieces like in vitality. I still think up to this point though Blame is better but not by as much
Jks is obviously better than es3tag overall but es3tag has better ct sides
Konfig is better than floppy but floppy is still young and reminds me of young elige so he’s still in development
Overall 2/8 you are biased beyond belief, I still think C9 will loose and I’m a C9 fan but you are treating col like they are 5 reincarnations of Jesus put in one team
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I think its better to compare es3tag to k0nfig and floppy to jks. The former are both established (danish) star riflers for the team while the latter have been more inconsistent and have a lot more to show. Jks, like floppy, is his team’s respective x factor.
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this is better, im just dumb :D
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Not dumb, just delusional)) YTB
Personally I think that my comparisons are better but I see where you are coming from, i matched jks against es3tag because both are beasts on ct side and floppy and konfig are More all round players.
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I see where you’re coming from, understandable.
Juggernaut > colossus
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+1
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cry c9 fan
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good point
2-1 cloud 9 for sure
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Told you EZ
name checks out lul
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it is b8 mens))) from one delusional fan to another
nice "in-depth"...
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thankyou! there isnt much to write when the other team has played 3 officials
There is as much depth in this thread as there is in a kiddy pool.
roles don't even fit
it'd fit better like that to compare the players with each other :
jks > floppy
RUSH < mezii
blameF <= ALEX
poizon << woxic
k0nfig = es3tag
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