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Liquid is Stuck
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China SalttyNoodles 
Liquid pretty much can't make a roster change here's why. Stewie2k: Hypeman and with Moses coming in he's the only one who can motivate a team that otherwise would never be able to comeback and probably choke a lot more Grim: He's playing insane and hes a new addition Twistzz: He's part of the core and he's a LAN player. He looks depressed rn but he is actually hyped at LAN events. Probably just demotivated from the whole quarantine thing. Elige: IDK WHO TF WOULD KICK ELIGE FROM LIQUID BUT FIND A REASON NAF: same with elige Moses: Came from a caster/analyst to this coaching role so liquid are probably willing to let him stay for longer. He might be doing well with strats, but he doesn't feel like one to hug/pat a player on the back after a bad whiff or a choke in a xv1 situation.
2020-12-02 06:13
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2020-12-02 06:14
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spoken like a true peruvian 😎👍
2020-12-03 00:31
One of these is not like the other.
2020-12-02 06:15
I think stewie and moses can be replaced, stewie is a good player but sometimes but him being the igl isnt working, someone like, msl, vanity, fallen, or another awp igl could be good to replace stew. As for moses he isn't doing much, replacing adren was a mistake because he was the strategic one of the team, so bringing him back would help a lot.
2020-12-02 06:16
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+1 Stewie is a good player. But they need an IGL.
2020-12-02 06:21
The I don't think an AWP IGL should replace Stevie on the team because 1. Stewie is supposed to be an Entry Fragger 2. I think ELIGE twistzz Naf and grim don't fit the entry fragger role. Although they could put switch in twistzz for stewie in the entry frag role in when twistzz is demotivated and in his slump.
2020-12-02 06:24
10 replies
Bruh if you watch liquid at all it is obvious that Elige is an aggressive player which sometimes means entry fragging. But most of the time he is trying to get multi kills before dying.
2020-12-02 06:28
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A lot of stewie's entries aren't followed by trades they are usually just for information and to know where they should go. That's liquids style rn and the other players would probably do it for the team but personally I feel like the IGL is the most expendable especially Stewie because he is a motivator and a caller. If they had an awping igl they can't really entry and their current system (which is questionable) they would nee for use someone who would just be quiet for the entire round and not contribute after they die
2020-12-02 06:35
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Yes that makes sense because they don't have a hard entry player
2020-12-02 06:36
1 reply
+1 , should be awp igl , replacing twistzz , , like vanity or fallen , and keep twistzz on the entry fragging role.
2020-12-03 01:07
if you think that one of the best aimers in the world should become a hard entry and sacrifice himself for the team idk what to say
2020-12-03 00:28
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When did I say I thought that? Elige is an agressive player which means he dies a lot although he plays positions where he can get mutifrags, for example connector on mirage. Plenty of other elite riflers like NiKo, dupreeh, and k0nfig play this same way, going for impact rather than for staying alive.
2020-12-03 00:31
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1. have you not seen all of the threads about NiKo being a baiter 2. Dupreeh is a different case because Astralis use so much utility, and he's always duo entrying with Magisk 3. Konfig isn't the hard entry, almost every time it's RUSH running out and dying so that Konfig can get the trade
2020-12-03 00:35
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1. Niko (on faze) played aggressive and often had the most deaths on his team 2. True but he's still a very good rifler who plays to get a lot of kills to set his team up for a man advantage 3. Wrong, they both entry, and if you watch k0nfig play he obviously is going for damage & kill count compared to how jks and blameF play
2020-12-03 01:32
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1. hltv.org/stats/players/individual/9616/a.. hltv.org/stats/players/individual/3741/n.. Amanek is the hard entry, as you can see by him having more than double the amount of opening fight attempts as NiKo 3. almost all of complexity have the same amount of entries, they don't really have a dedicated entry player
2020-12-03 01:42
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1. I said in my previous response that I was only referring to FaZe NiKo. 3. This is relatively true but when complexity are running into an execute it is often RUSH or k0nfig going in first. Also, being aggressive is a lot more than just entry fragging. For example, k0nfig will go for multikill plays on CT mirage at mid or CT vertigo at ramp. He won't care if he dies because he knows he can often get 2-3 kills.
2020-12-03 02:39
All those awp igl options are garbage in 2020
2020-12-02 06:27
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I agree about fallen and msl but vanity is having a great year
2020-12-02 07:05
4 replies
true
2020-12-02 07:10
Not really, his team nearly lost to an fpl 5 stack a couple days ago
2020-12-02 14:12
2 replies
Vanity has been great since taking over as igl, as a individual yes, as a team they have been good but not amazing
2020-12-02 23:51
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He can get clips versus bad teams but it is just hard for me to see him playing well on a top 5 team at a big lan
2020-12-03 00:03
the only player that i would consider from your list is vanity...
2020-12-02 07:49
issue is that everyone on this team baits and stew only knows how to call defaults so they can only play ct on every map -stew +nitr0
2020-12-02 06:17
3 replies
Back to choking finals?
2020-12-02 06:21
2 replies
in the words of Ocean: "stew is not an igl"
2020-12-02 06:21
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I agree stew shouldn't be igling but they should bench twistzz or make a 6 man roster.
2020-12-02 06:27
Still thinking stew will be any good Brain 404
2020-12-02 06:20
if they were to make a change i would think they would kick twistzz... feels so dumb to kick him but on paper this should be a really good lineup but they just had a decent eu run so i wouldnt make changes yet
2020-12-02 06:21
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+1 Honestly I hope they don't make any changes, the year is about end and there's a possibility LAN could be back by next summer in certain countries. Nitro leaving was just sad, even though I like Grim I think the team is better with Nitro because he could help Stew calling
2020-12-03 02:43
unexpected from china?
2020-12-02 06:22
7 replies
Half to help my China bro. After all Stew only China-America major and grand slam winner.
2020-12-02 06:26
he doesnt realize that stew is actually from hong kong
2020-12-02 06:26
5 replies
Ima be real I'm American born but everyone in my entire family is Chinese. And I speak some Mandarin.
2020-12-02 06:28
4 replies
stew surname = hong kong and he speaks cantonese not mandarin!!!
2020-12-02 06:29
2 replies
OK well... AHA IM A FELLOW ASIAN-AMERICAN HAHAH GOT YOU THERE
2020-12-02 06:37
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ncie B)
2020-12-02 06:37
o okay, I thought u were a mainlander, makes sense.
2020-12-02 06:43
Tomorrow its Astralis so hopefully stew can turn it up. Even if Liquid goes down I don't want it to be a stomp. PLEASE stew help bring some life to the team, you need it and Twistzz needs it.
2020-12-02 06:30
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#ASTRALISNEVERBEATLIQUIDINONLINEERA
2020-12-02 06:38
4 replies
Man I think you jinxed it Liquid has like a 30% chance of beating Astralis :(
2020-12-02 07:07
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Nah Liquid will beat danish teams. The are close enough to their boot camp for them to hear stewie shit talking them.
2020-12-02 07:18
You were saying?
2020-12-02 15:48
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#ASTRALISNEVERBEATLIQUIDIN2021 :)
2020-12-02 15:49
update: they sucked
2020-12-03 02:42
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Yeah ik lol Hopefully with some practice they can regain some confidence and be a contender. Watching them dry peek without little utility used hurts to see
2020-12-03 03:00
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the only option is lan
2020-12-03 03:07
1 reply
LAN will make them better but without solid practice and confidence, Liquid won't be good.
2020-12-03 03:10
But theyre trash so just disband
2020-12-02 06:37
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Liquid is cool team they like csgo they even got SCREAM in their Val roster.
2020-12-02 06:42
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Thats why they want a good team so they should disband and get a real roster
2020-12-02 06:43
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I mean there isn't really any NA IGLs you can get maybe vanity but I don't think Chaos will disband yet. In the end if liquid do disbanded the core is still going to stay together anyways.
2020-12-02 06:52
bot2k can be replaced
2020-12-02 06:52
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bot2k shld be replaced****
2020-12-02 06:57
TACO wasn't even a hype man. He couldn't even speak English fluently. Still LIQUID was top tier team that only lost to Astralis and dominated the entire CS scene. Believe me or not Stewie is the problem. 1) Not a good igl. 2) Even if you consider him a good igl then, he needs to put some frags on the scoreboard. Even choKO could frag better when he was the IGL of choke Clan. 3) He plays with AWP mainly and still can't have a dominant impact in important rounds. when he can't play with AWP then Naf has to step in. 4) He gets lost / can't handle the fast pace ( quick executes by teams ) that's why he needs AWP but he can't manage awping + igl'ing at the same time. This is the reason he misses so many shots with AWP. 5) If liquid wants to succeed they either need to remove Stewie or get a decent IGL and make Stewie primary AWP.
2020-12-02 07:19
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they didnt dominate with taco at all lol. they didnt win single big event with him and they were inconsistent AF. they were able to reach final one event and then bomb out in group stage right after it. they were good but nowhere near dominant... on the other hand with stew they won 6 big events in a row, won iem grand slam, reached top1 in hltv ranking and they were actually dominant
2020-12-02 07:58
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shat UP
2020-12-02 08:02
4 replies
you dont have to be mad...
2020-12-02 08:02
3 replies
I think you should go back in 2018 and watch all the liquid matches.
2020-12-02 08:04
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why should i watch it twice? no reason for it...again: they were nowhere near dominant and heavily inconsistent
2020-12-02 08:05
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ok
2020-12-02 08:06
Naah, today they will rekt Astralis 2-0
2020-12-02 07:20
2 replies
You better not be baiting Stop_baiting
2020-12-02 07:30
1 reply
I will bet it so i bait myself too if they lose
2020-12-02 10:03
+obo
2020-12-02 07:22
1 reply
Do you just go on ever NA team thread an put +obo?
2020-12-02 07:30
#41
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Lithuania elucio
bring back nitro play 6 man roster with 2 igl 3 maps stew 3 maps nitro !!!!
2020-12-02 07:38
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Possible idea but I think if nitr0 was to come back to liquid they should just put stew on entry and switch grim twistzz and naf depending on maps.
2020-12-03 00:04
Team liquid MUST get rid of stewie to succeed. Can’t frag and clearly can’t IGL.
2020-12-03 00:06
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Can't IGL yes. can't frag no. His T side stats completely change the game cause he is their hard entry and their system is basically send stew for info and go based on the info he got. On CT he isn't a bad B anchor. B anchors should have less frags on certain maps and he usually plays to support grim. Also he's usually the one who pushes up the b entrance for info instead of grim.
2020-12-03 00:17
#58
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Canada JC_123
+1
2020-12-03 00:19
i mean they are a LAN team but they looked like shit towards the last 4 months of LAN so depends how much patience liquid management has
2020-12-03 00:21
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Tons with Moses trying out Coaching
2020-12-03 00:48
#60
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"Liquid pretty much can't make a roster change" They can. Especially now when Chaos will drop their roster in 1 month or so. -Stewie +Vanity (IGL / AWPer) That would be alright for Liquid imo, since they would get a player that can AWP and IGL, thats the roles Liquid need to fill. Right now NAF(?) AWPs and Stewie IGL, and he does a bad job at it tbh.
2020-12-03 00:26
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Right now Stewie is their most selfless player being an entry. An awper can't fit that role and you don't really want to make grim and and elige on entry maybe twistzz but he plays more supportive and seems depressed lately don't think entering ever round would make hat any better. Tbh if they change stewie RN twistzz will prob take a break from CS considering his "depression" after OEM global challenge.
2020-12-03 00:52
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#74
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Well, Stewie is the worst player on the team + he is the IGL and he cant handle the IGL role. It makes sense that its Stewie that gotta go tbh. Well, if Twistzz took a break Liquid could get Xeppaa i guess lol.
2020-12-03 00:54
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Nah rn stew is better than twistzz on ct where he doesn't have to entry. His calling isn't bad but the strats are. That's probably more about the Moses switch than Stew becoming IGL
2020-12-03 01:03
#62
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South America JKenny
If they get Stew out this team breaks down mentally, this guy is the only bond that ties that team together. All I see is -Twistzz +real AWP and Naf concentrating on rifle or wait for how this roster works in LAN but for that if or if a change has to be made or if they will not continue losing...
2020-12-03 00:28
forgot moses is their coach, they will never be top 10 again.
2020-12-03 00:30
they just need some time in europe, they did well against mouz, and astralis (first map)
2020-12-03 00:30
#68
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Lebanon Dogman69
all these players are probably insanely bored of CS except grim they can't take a tactical igl because NA doesn't do tactics
2020-12-03 00:40
imo they are promising and just need to practice more. play more. get creative. i mean, twistz, NAF, eliege are flawless players. give them time.
2020-12-03 00:44
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+1 big brain
2020-12-03 02:35
here's my 300 IQ take replace stewie with nifty nifty gets elige kicked so he can get more frags elige joins c9 and replaces someone ez
2020-12-03 00:49
15 replies
#76
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
+1000 u smart as fuck
2020-12-03 00:56
14 replies
not as smart as you
2020-12-03 01:06
13 replies
#88
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
you are 100% sure smarter than me, i only learned how to change my bio after 3 months using hltv
2020-12-03 01:48
12 replies
nt, my IQ is at least 100 points lower than yours
2020-12-03 01:48
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#90
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
my dad told me that negative IQ does not exist
2020-12-03 01:55
10 replies
Your dad also lied about your 500 IQ and your insane intellect that surpasses human comprehension.
2020-12-03 01:58
9 replies
#93
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
I didn't understand, did my father lie about his intellect or mine?
2020-12-03 02:03
8 replies
i understand that you are pretending to be ignorant so that BOPE does not fly into your house and capture you. yes
2020-12-03 02:09
7 replies
#98
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
no, no, BOPE no, I thought we were friends
2020-12-03 02:10
6 replies
BOPE is coming, use your telekinetic powers to remove them from the premises!
2020-12-03 02:23
5 replies
#101
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
how do they know where i live, did you report me?!
2020-12-03 02:24
4 replies
BOPE found me too oh fuc d sfszx
2020-12-03 02:24
3 replies
#104
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
NO, YOU ARE SMART ALSO, GO, USE YOUR POWERS, FAST!
2020-12-03 02:25
2 replies
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2020-12-03 02:26
1 reply
#106
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, anyway
2020-12-03 02:27
realistically, i think they should have elige igl (he is definitely smarter than stewie10am, always well spoken in interviews and has a great understanding of the game) and make naf the full time awper. and with the money that liquid has, they could grab someone like jackz (who will probably be the one cut from g2) to be the first man in or they can grab an awper like acor and keep naf on the lurking/wildcard role vanity is a good pickup too to be both igl and awper but liquid want a full time awper ideally who can carry games, vanity isnt that
2020-12-03 00:50
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Elige is probably good at the game with gamesense but he doesn't really seem to be a caller more of a quiet person. While stew is more of a natural and shouting and stuff. I think getting Amanek (If he leaves g2) is better and benching twistzz for now. Stewie is their hard entry and jackz is an entry.
2020-12-03 00:56
kick twistzz and stewie2k get smooya and krystal
2020-12-03 00:58
1 reply
How sick would Liquid be if they switched twistzz for syrson . Fuck strats fuck Moses. Just go in die stewie and be the bait so syrson gets 3 kills ez.
2020-12-03 01:07
chinease fan of liquid lul unexpected
2020-12-03 01:02
3 replies
You racist m%@^$&# @&^#^# @&#^&@ @&#^#&#. By Chinease do you mean it's easy to beat China?
2020-12-03 01:04
2 replies
because usa and china are rivals
2020-12-03 01:05
1 reply
2020-12-03 01:08
#92
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Brazil chad47
kick their entire squad keep grim make it grim shakezulla elige vanity xeppa easiest top 50 (better den liquid rn) top234
2020-12-03 01:58
2 replies
sorry but liquid players wont mesh well with umm big players yk?
2020-12-03 02:08
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#122
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Brazil chad47
yes but shakezullah carries them all on his 35% body fat muscalesz
2020-12-03 04:21
how much would CadiaN's buyout be? Hes really the only AWP igl whos any good anymore and he is a vocal leader too
2020-12-03 02:07
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Ok so lets be reasonable if Cadian is bought out then twistzz is out cadian igl stew on entry right? Or at least twistzz gets benched/6 man roster for now
2020-12-03 02:09
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Liquid might be the worst spot in CSGO rn. They are having issues and every single one of their players are elite so choosing 1 to go would be difficult as hell.
2020-12-03 02:22
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I mean they can kick Moses and that's probably a good idea. They could also make a 6 man roster get an igl and let twistzz take a break.
2020-12-03 02:46
issue: player break
2020-12-03 02:24
sign NAF FLY AAND MAKE AMERICA great again
2020-12-03 02:40
For everyone saying you have to keep stewie on the team for the hype i disagree and think the good doesn't outweigh the bad. He's not a good IGL and when the game is not going their way he gets super quiet and sucks more life from the team. They have to get an IGL or they're going to keep up the trend of losing.
2020-12-03 02:42
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I think Stewie2k Elige Cadian And Grim Would be sick
2020-12-03 02:51
anyone else ready for online cs to be over with? Not saying Liquid is going to be any better on lan again, but like all the top teams prior to covid they got hurt pretty badly by lack of lan
2020-12-03 02:47
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Yeah no quarantine = Twistzz rejuvenated I think once quarantine is over the NA scene is going to be better overall
2020-12-03 02:54
Liquid are goated stop the cap
2020-12-03 02:53
I think you are defending steven10am too much, do it like G2 and try out between him and twistzz to go for vanity
2020-12-03 03:02
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