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YnK or Moses?
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Germany ToiletShitter 
who is worse coach?
2020-12-02 15:57
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Italy steven513
both xaxa)
2020-12-02 15:57
Both are meh, they are casters not coaches
2020-12-02 15:57
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Both are analysts, YnK never casted
2020-12-02 16:02
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Whatever mens, point still stands. Just because they can read HLTV graph doesn't make them coaches
2020-12-02 16:11
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Europe jigglepeek
hey man he can also click on a touch screen and can use the demogui properly. please dont underestimate his skills.
2020-12-02 16:27
Ynk was known for his desk segments that were setup like football play by plays to analyze the nuances behind nade usage and team rotations during rounds, I think the guy knows what he's doing. I'm sure Moses knows a ton about tactics, just don't watch Liquid games so can't speak on it much
2020-12-02 16:29
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#53
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Ukraine NiP_sux
no no no. Everyone thinks they are meh and you can`t even argue with them. They know everything about csgo and could fit much better than any coach
2020-12-02 16:38
moses worst coach ever, faze won something with ynk
2020-12-02 15:58
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u rly think ynk had some impact in FaZe? NiKo litteraly brought him and gave him a nice paycheck since he is his friend. NiKo always had the last word. YnK is not like RobbaN who was respected by all beacuse of his achievements in past.
2020-12-02 16:01
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yes but they won something moses is literally a caster with no experience as a coach and little experience as a player in 2014, cs changed so much since. even if ynk was brought by niko he did stuff
2020-12-02 16:03
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we saw how he did "stuff" with mibr when tarik and stew were there. Then he went into a better team with better players and he looked good while NiKo was destroying everybody by himself and his individual skill.
2020-12-02 16:04
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im stuff
2020-12-02 16:05
you're really oblivious if you think any of those FaZe iterations would have done well to semi decent with no Ynk there, karrigan and Janko are the ones who taught NiKo how to igl at a decent level, he didn't get there himself.
2020-12-02 16:05
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karrigan tought him how to IGL. YnK has no experience in igling especially on international teams. One thing is being a coach and watching all behind and then trying to come up with something and another thing is doing it mid round. oh and btw, NiKo was igling in mouz when he was 18-19 , cuz nobody wanted to take IGL role so he took it himself. He had experience before.
2020-12-02 16:09
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if you look at all the interviews, NiKo barely retained what karrigan gave him, karrigan essentially played a strong support role while still on the team so NiKo could still frag and lurk while positions were held down and reported by karrigan. That's why when karrigan was gone NiKo had to take up those positions instead of playing his usual areas on the map. Ynk had experience in mibr... an international lineup, and near the second half they were more decent than any iteration of mibr until our current version. Also Janko mostly did out of game work like switching roles, player disputes, talking to upper management, and when he had to mid round call it was pre defined strategies from practice. Oh and btw, his so called "igling" in mouz was utter shit, don't even try to deny it. Him making a tier 2-3 team a back half of the top 10 team was purely based of his own skill and setting his own self up. The guy has barely any concept of tactics or team based CS, he'd rather just frag out to win and carry because he doesn't know how to igl in a way that incorporates the entire team and rarely utilizes the sum of its parts. It just looks like you're blinded by how great of a player the guy is to not see he can't igl and barely knows how to. We don't say shox in g2 2016 was a good igl do we? Those guys played off skill not on merit of actually being good at managing players and forming team based tactics.
2020-12-02 16:22
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it's ok people on HLTV usually know better than the pros themselves how their team communicated, what players contributed with and how the team was structured
2020-12-02 16:31
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Chile cristiaan
ynk
2020-12-02 15:58
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hey richard lewis can you unban me pls lul just kiddin i watch all your content, dont need to be unbanned tho lol - watchin ur stream atm lul
2020-12-02 16:00
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Chile cristiaan
whaaat
2020-12-02 16:02
#5
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Croatia mimi031
YnK. He is the ultimate paycheck stealer and didnt made a single decision in FaZe since NiKo was in charge. I respect Moses since he is a rly awesome caster and he makes sense when he talks. Just beacuse ur a caster or analyst that doesnt mean that ur gonna be a good coach.
2020-12-02 15:59
#6
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Korea XigNGODtop1
Moses, he is a bald fraud
2020-12-02 16:00
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#17
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Morocco royflord
ok olli
2020-12-02 16:02
both of em are bald frauds who cares
2020-12-02 16:00
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#41
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Serbia LtN))
ynk is not bald
2020-12-02 16:22
3 replies
under his hair he is
2020-12-02 16:25
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#46
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Serbia LtN))
We found a smart person in it's neutral habitat.
2020-12-02 16:28
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I know
2020-12-02 16:33
i like that moses gives a lot of insight in the team. i feel ynk is way more closed about some issues. obv that has nothing to do with either of him being shit or not.
2020-12-02 16:01
Moses ofc.
2020-12-02 16:01
Moses
2020-12-02 16:01
we need to see from moses to make a conclusion
2020-12-02 16:01
The bald fraudery of both of these bald frauds is off the charts
2020-12-02 16:03
moses is a true bald fraud
2020-12-02 16:03
richard lewis is the king of all bald frauds
2020-12-02 16:05
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Pep is still goat bald fraud
2020-12-02 16:08
#27
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Turkey semtan
YnK
2020-12-02 16:06
YnK, "I tried to make them practice, but I gave up"
2020-12-02 16:06
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#39
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Morocco royflord
LMAOOO where did he say this ??
2020-12-02 16:21
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HLTV confirmed.
2020-12-02 16:29
#29
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Brazil MingLee69
por que no los dos
2020-12-02 16:07
Orgs shd realise that casters/analyst cant be good coaches , they tell strats after it happens n coaches responsibility it to create those strats
2020-12-02 16:08
#34
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Indonesia DioBrando
I think the bald one
2020-12-02 16:17
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#52
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Serbia LtN))
#43 XDDD
2020-12-02 16:34
sh1ro > ynk > moses
2020-12-02 16:18
Coach can't carry a bed team
2020-12-02 16:25
yNk was just unlucky, he got into teams with orgs who don't care about the team + with players who think they're the best and won't listen and work He's not bad, but I like him more as an analyst.
2020-12-02 16:26
both better than adreN tho, prove me wrong
2020-12-02 16:33
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