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arT | 
Brazil eumesmo 
best country ever? it is impressive how much freedom and prosperity this country has achieved.
2020-12-03 01:15
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Yes but it’s expensive as hell so you gotta work your ass off like everywhere else.
2020-12-03 01:18
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You have to work way less than most countries. Its expensive for a reason.
2020-12-03 01:22
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#3
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
lmfao, 41h MINIMUM per weeks
2020-12-03 01:23
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#4
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
same or less than brazil.
2020-12-03 01:24
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#6
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
swiss is expensive AS HELL dude, 4000 per month isn't enough for 1 guy alone
2020-12-03 01:26
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#11
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
I know, but it is not a problem for those who live there, because the salary is higher and taxation is lower.
2020-12-03 01:28
18 replies
Swiss People dont have problems.
2020-12-03 01:29
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#26
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
Listen, in Swiss : Appartement, 1700CHf MINIMUM in basel insurance for life : 650chf for car : 200chf for mobil : 80chf market : 800chf this is per month and the minimum
2020-12-03 01:35
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#48
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Lebanon Dogman69
how can you not live with this money lol
2020-12-03 02:20
#15
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
taxation is lower ? dude don't trust everything
2020-12-03 01:31
#19
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Singapore Am2de
> taxation is lower > 40% personal income tax Ok
2020-12-03 01:32
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#23
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
lower than brazil i belive.
2020-12-03 01:33
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#25
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Singapore Am2de
Higher than Singapore. So, I will pass
2020-12-03 01:35
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#28
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
singapore has no freedom except economic freedom.
2020-12-03 01:37
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#31
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Singapore Am2de
That's lie lmao. Singapore has personal freedom but you have to follow rules. That's why Singapore became one of the best country in Asia even though it got freedom in 1965. Singapore follows meritocracy. It's not like European country that every one is equal. If you are talented then you are welcomed in community. But if you are like bottom 10%, you are fucked up
2020-12-03 01:48
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#35
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
everyone has freedom over rules ... in Singapore you are not even allowed to chew gum or suck a dick.
2020-12-03 02:06
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#59
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Singapore Am2de
That's the one of tthe best rule lmao. Not only it is bad for your health but also people tend to stick chewing gum at any place. It keeps city clean. And not all chewing gums are banned. You can still get nicotine free gum if you are trying to quit smoking.
2020-12-03 02:34
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#61
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
I may not like gums, but I should be free to do so.
2020-12-03 02:36
#46
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Lebanon Dogman69
Singapore dictatorship
2020-12-03 02:18
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#54
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Singapore Am2de
Dictatorship with being one of the best at education, clean energy, jobs, businesses, medical, safety. I don't see any issue.
2020-12-03 02:30
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#81
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Russia win73ry
It's very amusing how people tend to consider an authoritarian regime as a synonym for something bad.
2020-12-03 15:15
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#82
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Singapore Am2de
+1
2020-12-03 15:16
#91
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Slovakia Daev0n
Tbh if the leader cares about the country, it might be even better than democracy in which more than half of the people who vote for the government is fcking braindead.
2020-12-03 16:08
It depends on the canton you live in, income tax is not set at a federal level
2020-12-03 02:03
Sure, but you get to have a dope ass life. In alot of shithole countries people have to start working when theyre like 10 or work full weeks and are still poor, thats why all the poor ass countries cant even afford a decent pc
2020-12-03 01:27
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#14
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
i'm french who's working in Basel currently. Please stop thinking switzerland is the Eldorado
2020-12-03 01:30
4 replies
If you can name a Better place be my guest
2020-12-03 01:31
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#18
grux | 
Australia Kladiz
Luxembourg for exemple
2020-12-03 01:32
2 replies
Possible possible alltho very close
2020-12-03 01:32
You literally said the country that most ppl say is 2nd best, lmao. Maybe ur standarts are just too high
2020-12-03 02:28
41H is not much? lol Thats 8.2 hours a day if you work Monday-Friday.
2020-12-03 01:59
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Not saying that we should be an example but that's pretty average in Brazil and most ppl also work on weekends. Not even counting the traffic issues. Id work 8/day and 5days/week happily
2020-12-03 02:31
#79
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Turkey MrAycan
thats pretty good bro how many hours avg in UK. in Turkey it is so much worse
2020-12-03 15:01
thats literally the standard in most countries 8h/day
2020-12-03 15:09
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Yes, i know mate. I just told him that if he works 8.2 hours a day for 5 weeks its 41 hours a week. Which is what literally everyone does and its not that much lol.
2020-12-03 15:23
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oh, it sounded like you were being ironic when saying "its not much?"
2020-12-03 20:02
#7
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
yes, it's expensive but it means people will receive better salaries. like, brazil is considered cheap for an american, but that's cause salaries here are lower.
2020-12-03 01:26
5 replies
Not to mention the assistance that the Swiss government gives to its citizens. Switzerland is one of the best nations in the world for sure
2020-12-03 15:20
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#88
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
i think i would rather less taxation.
2020-12-03 15:29
3 replies
All the greatest countries to live has hight taxation
2020-12-03 15:38
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#93
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
not all, monaco, liechtenstein, singapore... there are pretty good low taxation countries around the world.
2020-12-03 17:28
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None of they are in top 10 best countries to live in. Two of that countries are a rich heaven, with 80% of the population being rich people runing from income taxes. You can only live in liechtenstein and Monaco if you have permission. According to the Singapore government, over 105,000 families live in poverty. This translates to about one in 10 family homes, or 378,000 people. This will never be better than Norway, Swiss, Finland, Germany, Canada and etc
2020-12-03 18:20
Great but no ocean
2020-12-03 01:26
I was in Lucerne saw some garbage guy hanging off the truck and thought this is the luckiest garbage man in the world. beautiful city
2020-12-03 01:27
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#20
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
and his salary was probably higher than both of my parents combined.
2020-12-03 01:32
Any Swiss guy who could explain how they communicate with each other due to 4 different languages?
2020-12-03 01:28
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#13
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
because the main language is deutsch
2020-12-03 01:30
4 replies
Yes but accrodly to google German is spoken only by 65% what if they meet people from other regions.
2020-12-03 01:33
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#37
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
they use chinese.
2020-12-03 02:09
Then they prob dont talk to them
2020-12-03 02:09
Classic europeans dont talk to each other
2020-12-03 02:31
#68
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France HippzZ
They speak English lol, also old people know 3 languages usually but young people don't care much they rely on english
2020-12-03 03:45
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that's what I assumed lol just wondered whether they have some sort of unified Swiss language everyone learns at school
2020-12-03 03:49
#24
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Singapore Am2de
I wouldn't say best country ever. New Zealand is better than Switzerland
2020-12-03 01:33
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ye thats fair, but switzerland is not far behind
2020-12-03 04:37
income tax = nope though still far better than most countries
2020-12-03 01:37
It's not that good...
2020-12-03 01:38
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#30
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
why?
2020-12-03 01:42
11 replies
time dedicated to work and taxes, this fuck us up
2020-12-03 01:51
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#36
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
you work more hours than the rest of europe, but the quality of life is excellent, not?
2020-12-03 02:07
2 replies
it's good, but would be better if the taxes were lower
2020-12-03 03:48
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#78
arT | 
Brazil eumesmo
yea, i can agree with this.
2020-12-03 14:55
same problem in Norway
2020-12-03 02:17
4 replies
don't you have something like 6 or 7 hour work day or that's in Sweden?
2020-12-03 03:27
3 replies
7.5 here
2020-12-03 03:29
2 replies
what do you do?
2020-12-03 03:30
1 reply
Work in a warehouse,not the best job. change to working on a oil distilliry in january tho
2020-12-03 04:07
How's ur work schedule? If you dont mind saying ofc
2020-12-03 02:34
#64
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Turkey vaxxle
you are lucky bro
2020-12-03 03:29
no
2020-12-03 02:17
Carried by Albanians
2020-12-03 03:53
Can confirm, wouldn't live anywhere else.
2020-12-03 15:21
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2020-12-03 17:42
Actually it's not been a very rich country until recently. They also stole german gold.
2020-12-03 17:44
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ahahahahaha omfg , hltv members
2020-12-03 18:22
2020-12-03 17:47
thez currupt as fuck with theyr taxisle
2020-12-03 18:23
#101
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Korea imotfhere
they are actually very friendly on faceit
2020-12-03 18:31
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