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United States isablan 
It's very nice to see Magisk fragging like this again, he didn't suck as IGL but he's so good when he just focuses on murking the enemy team
2020-12-03 19:05
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Boiiiiiiiiiiiii
2020-12-03 19:06
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Prince of pit returns
2020-12-04 13:56
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electronic is the best in pit tbh.
2020-12-04 14:01
#2
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
+1 top 3 rifler
2020-12-03 19:06
126 replies
+11111
2020-12-03 19:07
NiKo huNter- Magisk - top 3 riflers
2020-12-03 19:07
39 replies
shit, forgot about ropz, he is also GOD tier rifler
2020-12-03 19:10
27 replies
Its really hard to pick up top 3, how about electronic, dupreeh, etc
2020-12-03 19:12
26 replies
electronic has been underperforming terribly lately, definetely not even top10 atm
2020-12-03 19:14
13 replies
Well he actually got better lately, he was bad earlier
2020-12-03 19:15
11 replies
still needs to elevate tho, he has 1.10 currently on last 3 months, its not bad in general but for a top5 rifler and especially for electronic its far from good enough
2020-12-03 19:15
he is somewhere in the top ten, maybe around 7-9 top 10 is probably Magisk Hunter NiKo Ropz Elec EliGE Stavn BlameF and 2 more, can't think of any rn maybe other niko and Dupreeh (also in no particular order)
2020-12-03 22:36
9 replies
Where is my zywoo/ shox ??
2020-12-03 22:37
5 replies
i would put Zywoo and s1mple there but as of now they are both dedicated AWPers, also shox top 15
2020-12-03 22:37
4 replies
Not true in the case of ZywOo, he has specific roles when he plays rifle e.g. as B anchor. He plays both rifles and AWP in every match (and is a god).
2020-12-03 22:46
3 replies
but he still mainly plays AWP, he is known as an AWPer
2020-12-03 22:47
2 replies
I agree, and it makes it even more impressive that he's as good if not better than half the people on this list with the rifle.
2020-12-04 14:28
1 reply
Brehze should be on a top 10 rifles list full stop. Not his fault he was stuck in NA all year.
2020-12-04 20:38
Thoughts on Valde?
2020-12-04 08:45
1 reply
Valde was really close but still quite difficult for me to decide
2020-12-04 09:27
so glad you thought about blamef, stavn and danish niko. such underrated pure riflers
2020-12-04 08:46
elec was top-3 rifler before online for sure, but on online era he is like top-10 rifler, dupreeh is also like top-10 rifler mb or even top-15
2020-12-03 19:14
11 replies
even without online probably would not be top 3 with niko and magisk already being better and ropz improving so much also LAN elige
2020-12-03 19:26
7 replies
Im not sure but before online every1 was talking like elec is top-3 rifler
2020-12-03 19:31
2 replies
True, but ropz was catching up to him and niko slumped 2019
2020-12-03 19:31
last year Elec>Niko and Hunter, harder for him this year, im sure he will be top 5 player when LAN is back but who knows when that will be
2020-12-03 22:37
For Online I think top 3 NA riflers are Elige Yuurih Grim
2020-12-03 19:39
3 replies
kscerato > yuurih > grim grim definately not better than kscerato
2020-12-03 19:41
2 replies
Eh I think for the past month/in Eu grim has been doing really good even in the matches against mousesports and Australia (Maybe just because stewie set him up on the b site holds)
2020-12-03 19:52
That is debatable. In terms of pure aim I would say Grim is currently top 1 NA right now, but of course the FURIA guys are better overall since they have lots of experience against top teams.
2020-12-05 05:40
honestly imo dupreeh is top 6 rifler, i mean he hard entries a lot so his stats arent too good but he still does a lot for astralis i think and creates space.
2020-12-03 19:32
elec not even top 10 this year, so incosistent along with everybody on Navi, except s1mple
2020-12-04 08:46
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I think he is close for top-10 but no sure about his placement, I guess he gets top-15 this year.
2020-12-04 11:25
Not hunter, he is inconsistent. But magisk is so consistent
2020-12-03 19:10
4 replies
Dude, when I watch every huNters game he always does some crazy shit, I think he is kinda underrated
2020-12-03 19:12
2 replies
He does, but he is not very good at anchoring sites like magisk. You put magisk on a site, and you can expect two for one trade almost 80% of the time
2020-12-03 19:17
1 reply
+1 dead on
2020-12-03 19:36
i would pick ropz over hunter any day
2020-12-03 19:14
1 reply
same, just forgot about ropz while was making this
2020-12-03 19:16
Its kinda weird that a team that has 2 worlds best riflers and one of the best IGLs (according to ppl here) still sucks. Just makes me think they're not actually even near the best.
2020-12-04 12:58
3 replies
its just about teamplay and weak awp on kenny. They have very good players, they just need to practise on their teamplay, they are like a Na`Vi but EU verison
2020-12-04 13:37
2 replies
So basically nexa isnt even nearly as good IGL as people give him credit for.
2020-12-04 15:33
1 reply
Im not sure about his IGLing but he is fragging good for IGL.
2020-12-04 17:33
top 5 maybe, not top 3
2020-12-03 19:08
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#13
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
niko bestest, who else better?
2020-12-03 19:08
38 replies
Niko might be the best when he's in form but he's too inconsistent. Zywoo/s1mple are ofcourse the best riflers, then electronic,elige,niko,ropz in any order
2020-12-03 19:12
35 replies
ZywOo and s1mple are snipers and they arent better Magisk with rifles
2020-12-03 19:10
21 replies
Is that a joke? They're "hybrids" but are still top 5 riflers and top 5 pistols because they're that good. They're 100% better than magisk purely with the rifle as well... you cannot comprehend how good they are because they're far above everyone else.
2020-12-03 19:11
20 replies
well, with pistols s1mple and ZywOo could be top-5, but with rifles they arent that sure top-5, ropz, Magisk, NiKo, XANTARES, huNter are just better with rifles.
2020-12-03 19:13
19 replies
You put Onlinetares and hunter in your top 5 list... your opinion is irrelevant
2020-12-03 19:14
4 replies
talking about XANTARES rifle, not his trophyes or team achievements, huNter is extremely underrated can also put LAN electronic and Elige, both of them are better riflers, you cant doubt it.
2020-12-03 19:15
3 replies
1.22 in 2018,1.10 rating in 2019,1.11 in 2020. Performing against top 20/30 teams online doesn't make you the best when your rating falls to 1.1-1.12 when you start to actually play LANs vs top 20 teams... He's a top 10 rifler for sure, but he hasn't done anything at big events to be considered a top 5 rifler.
2020-12-03 19:22
u know, that zywoo and s1mple prefer rifle but need to take the awp role, because noone is better with it? u saw them with rifle? i really understand ur arguments. they are both hybrids unlike devi1ce, kennys, cerq etc.
2020-12-03 20:29
1 reply
they are good with rifles but not better or prefer it, Im pretty sure they are ok with their roles
2020-12-04 11:22
Elec is waaay better than hunter
2020-12-04 08:38
13 replies
Its not that obvious, you kinda underrate huNter :/
2020-12-04 11:23
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you are watching at number, I watch the games and huNter always do some insane kills and gives a lot of impact his team
2020-12-04 12:50
10 replies
Electronic always does the same, and if hunter is so good, i can't understand why he is so low
2020-12-04 17:53
8 replies
1.09 - low, you are weird
2020-12-04 18:15
7 replies
Dude, 1.09 on tier 1level means that you are in top 15 at max
2020-12-04 20:07
6 replies
Yeah, in terms of stats, but in terms of impact huNter is at least top-10
2020-12-04 20:18
5 replies
No, he is not
2020-12-05 05:16
Stop, u mean impact rating? Ok, using impact rating only s1mple, zywoo,niko, device, electronic, syrson and brollan are above hunter, and he is in the same level as blamef and ropz in terms of impact
2020-12-05 05:22
But bro, impact rating will not decide his placing in top 20, he will end up probably at 15 place
2020-12-05 05:25
2 replies
Im not talking about impact rating, what a statpadder...
2020-12-05 11:14
1 reply
Im talking using facts, while u just like hunter and try to persuade me that he is better than electronic
2020-12-05 14:38
#46
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
electronic is quite inconsistent as well, magisk is def above him. zywoo and s1mple are primary awpers so i dont count them. ropz is up there but idk about elige
2020-12-03 19:14
12 replies
They've both been shit in this online period, even in his slump he's performed better than Magisk, a 1.14 vs a 1.09 rating...but over the past 2 year Electronic has definitely been the better player... 1.2 rating vs 1.15 in 2019 and in 2018 a 1.17 vs 1.15.. and that's while being on the same team as Zeus and Edward, and then boombl4 and GuardiaN.
2020-12-03 19:17
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#68
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
magisk was igl for like 5 months
2020-12-03 19:17
7 replies
So what about the first 6 months of 2020, then the previous 2 years? lol
2020-12-03 19:18
6 replies
#93
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9032/magi.. judging by this he looked better start of 2020. but maybe cuz online
2020-12-03 19:28
5 replies
You do realise Electronic is the blue line and Magisk is the yellow one?lol.
2020-12-03 19:28
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#110
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
oh yeah true lol. idk, just feel like magisk is insane and very impactful. also his whole team is full of stars compared to navi that have 3 "deadweights", so that can impact stats too
2020-12-03 19:34
3 replies
No arguments here lol... we're discussing the better riflers. I suppose Electronic stats might be inflated a bit because he is a better pistol player than magisk, but it's probably harder to get better stats on a bad team because you are usually left in bad situations because of a whiff or a bad call. And let's not forget electronic is an entry fragger... he's fucking crazy. Best aggressive rifler for sure.
2020-12-03 19:38
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#119
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
yeah, magisk excels more on ct while elec more so on t side
2020-12-03 19:41
wdym, elec can be insane yes, but you cant go nuts in one game, and then suck the next
2020-12-04 08:48
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#212
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
ofc when magisk is igl, otherwise they are pretty neck-to-neck. if you look at individual match histories, magisk is more consistent but doesn't get as high ratings on his good games, so it balances out with electronics highs and lows also magisk is basically support on t-side so hard to even compare them
2020-12-04 09:55
1 reply
Elec is entry on t side
2020-12-04 12:07
It could be NiKo, huNter and ropz better him, but Im not sure about it, he is for sure top-4 rifler
2020-12-03 19:09
1 reply
With the impact he made today, he deserves above hunter
2020-12-03 19:20
0/8
2020-12-03 19:08
39 replies
Who's top 3 then?
2020-12-03 19:09
1 reply
NiKo, electronic, elige
2020-12-03 19:11
Expected from a guy who said "mAGiSk iSN't a S-tiER pLayER".
2020-12-03 19:10
35 replies
no shit its expected.
2020-12-03 19:11
34 replies
Glad we agree your opinion is invalid then :)
2020-12-03 19:11
10 replies
what? where did i say its invalid lmfao
2020-12-03 19:12
9 replies
Ever since you said Magisk wasn't a S-tier player.
2020-12-03 19:12
8 replies
what?? english please
2020-12-03 19:13
7 replies
Not my fault you can't understand English. I thought Danish people were good at it? Or is that an exception for you?
2020-12-03 19:14
6 replies
yeah sure. you reply "Ever since you said Magisk wasn't a S-tier player." to "where did i say its invalid lmfao" and im the stupid one. your reply makes absolutely no sense
2020-12-03 19:15
5 replies
It makes sense, but you seem to not understand anyway. Damn, is the level of English proficiency getting worse in Denmark?
2020-12-03 19:17
Made sense to me. What is up with you?
2020-12-03 19:42
3 replies
how does it make sense to reply with "since" to a "where" question??
2020-12-03 19:43
2 replies
Ah. Then replace the 'where' with 'when' in #34. He means your opinion was invalidated the moment you said Magisk was not S-tier. #30 seems like you agreed with him.
2020-12-03 20:28
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i didnt. i just meant that its obviously expected for me to not consider him a top 3 rifler when i dont consider him an s tier player.
2020-12-03 20:30
You saying he isn't Top 3 rifler makes sense to an extent but saying that he isn't a Tier-S player after being a Major MVP is quite meh
2020-12-03 19:14
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its not meh at all lmao. 1st of all he won that mvp more than 1 and a half year ago. 2nd of all he really isnt that good. hes not s1mple, zywoo (feels weird to put them here tbh), niko, device, ropz etc. kjaerbye also played very well in a major but he wasnt an S tier player and was worse than 2 players on his own team.
2020-12-03 19:21
21 replies
And that's why he's usually the third position player? You really don't expect a team to be made up of 5 stars, right?
2020-12-03 19:22
20 replies
"the third position player" what?
2020-12-03 19:27
19 replies
Hard Site Anchor + Usually Second Entry.
2020-12-03 19:31
18 replies
"Hard Site"? "Usually Second Entry." what's bad about that? that's probably the role with the most fragging potential.
2020-12-03 19:31
17 replies
Okay my b "Hard site" is not really a thing. I'm tryna say that he usually plays passively in a site and waits for enemies to come to him. He rarely ever aggresses. And secondly, yes! And he's fairly good at being a second entry.
2020-12-03 19:33
16 replies
"He rarely ever aggresses." which means he takes more favourable fights and can often fight the enemies with his teammates. i never said he's a bad player, he's a beast, maybe an S-tier player in some of the roles he plays, but not an S-tier player overall.
2020-12-03 19:36
15 replies
He is a beast and earlier u mentioned that he is NOT really that good. LOL ok
2020-12-03 20:22
14 replies
yes, hes not that good as in hes not an s tier player, not that hes not beast.
2020-12-03 20:23
13 replies
Hahahahahhaha. Priceless
2020-12-03 20:25
12 replies
what?
2020-12-03 20:26
11 replies
Who is tier S player then?
2020-12-03 20:28
10 replies
s1mple, zywoo, niko, device, ropz, electronic sometimes
2020-12-03 20:28
9 replies
And not magisk, but device? Well well.
2020-12-03 20:30
7 replies
how is that a surprise lol. device is a better player.
2020-12-03 20:32
6 replies
Hard to compare them. Skill-wise i do not agree though.
2020-12-03 20:35
5 replies
smh
2020-12-03 20:36
4 replies
I agree
2020-12-03 20:37
3 replies
idc
2020-12-03 20:37
2 replies
I think u do. Based on all your comments in here.
2020-12-03 20:40
1 reply
i dont
2020-12-03 20:43
So is the list for S tier player that small in your opinion? I guess usually people consider all the Top 10 players of the year as Elites or S-Tiers.
2020-12-04 07:43
Electronic s-tier? as consistent as flamie this year
2020-12-04 08:51
ELEC >>>> ROPZ >>>> MAGISK = NIKO
2020-12-03 19:13
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#63
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
elec incosistent af, maybe in 2019 but not anymore
2020-12-03 19:16
2 replies
this year hes been not that good. But last years he was pretty sick.
2020-12-03 19:18
He's in a slump and is still the 6th highest rated player this year.
2020-12-03 19:24
#138
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Czech Republic imotfhere
+1
2020-12-03 20:08
#3
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United Kingdom Twizzlr
Same as NiKo basically. God tier fraggers being misused.
2020-12-03 19:06
10 replies
#6
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India sp@rk
+10
2020-12-03 19:07
+1000
2020-12-03 19:07
imagine comparing magisk to niko lol
2020-12-03 19:08
5 replies
#20
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United Kingdom Twizzlr
You're right. NiKo is far better individually.
2020-12-03 19:09
4 replies
+1
2020-12-03 19:09
Magisk may not get 1 taps or something like niko, but he can put multi-frags like a machine
2020-12-03 19:12
2 replies
not to mention his recoil control
2020-12-04 08:43
yes but hes just not on the same level. idk how you can compare magisk to niko, thats pretty ridiculous. niko is one of the best hardcarries in the game. hes up there with s1mple etc. below them are players like elige, device, ropz who are also incredible and usually top 5, but cant really do the same things. and then comes magisk.
2020-12-04 13:55
Actually having IGL experience for the rifler is not a bad thing...
2020-12-03 19:09
+1 i was going to write the same
2020-12-03 19:14
+1
2020-12-03 19:07
yeah, he was so fucking good on inferno
2020-12-03 19:07
2 replies
xyp too :)
2020-12-03 19:07
1 reply
yeah, but he was struggling on 1v1 duels vs NiKo and huNter they just insta hs him like a crazy :D
2020-12-03 19:08
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Russia evg1804
Agree
2020-12-03 19:08
Xyp was nuts the G2 series and Magisk was legendary on inferno
2020-12-03 19:08
1 reply
+1
2020-12-03 19:08
he is a way better player than hunter or niko. you can add up frags, you can take the average stats but in the end CS is a knock out game. you win or you lose. if you have like 32 frags and you fail to deliver in the final rounds of the game, you lose. and that's why magisK is a winner because he thrives in that kind of situations. the same applies for device. check the last few rounds in overtime. it does not matter how bad of a game he had the 30 rounds before. he delivered(like the rest of astralis) when it's neck or nothing.
2020-12-03 19:11
8 replies
+1 i hate this stats hunters too
2020-12-03 19:13
it does matter quite a bit though. if you didnt have enough impact before that you wouldnt be able to have impact later on.
2020-12-03 19:13
5 replies
if you don’t have impact at the right time, you lose the game. I noticed that niko is crispy early in the game, and then dies repeatedly in overtime, no impact.
2020-12-03 19:16
4 replies
sure but if niko wasnt popping off they wouldnt even get to overtime.
2020-12-03 19:17
3 replies
then they lose. If you want to win in overtime, you have to show up there.
2020-12-03 19:19
2 replies
yes and you also have to get there.
2020-12-03 19:20
1 reply
Niko not an impact player.
2020-12-04 08:55
+1 imagine having niko’s aim and still losing games and dying to device drypeeks banana early round in overtime :D dude choked at the end there, and hence deserved to lose, imo.
2020-12-03 19:14
#37
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Algeria LOBYA6AJIN
magisk very skilled but that is not normal
2020-12-03 19:12
3 replies
Why not? Look at pre IGL stats I think he's top 5-8 riflers in the game rn
2020-12-03 20:32
2 replies
you didnt get it or ? xd
2020-12-03 20:33
1 reply
Oh my fault friend
2020-12-03 20:35
I think magisk's buyout would be around the same as zywoo/simple's. Top tier individual player, with good igl skills & astralis stratbook in his pocket.
2020-12-03 19:13
57 replies
"I think magisk's buyout would be around the same as zywoo/simple's." then youre wrong lol. idk how anyone can think that.
2020-12-03 19:13
10 replies
delusional dane thinking that s1mp and zywoo (awpers that have the whole team built around them) don’t have inflated value as a result of this, omegalul. I think magisk is close to both of their skill level, not quite as good though.
2020-12-03 19:18
9 replies
"I think magisk is close to both of their skill level, not quite as good though." no he isnt. youre the delusional one. magisk isnt even the most skilled player on his team.
2020-12-03 19:20
8 replies
do you think device is as good as s1mple or zywoo?
2020-12-03 19:22
5 replies
no.
2020-12-03 19:22
4 replies
would it be fair to say that he is about 80% as good as s1mple/zywoo?
2020-12-03 19:23
3 replies
who?
2020-12-03 19:29
2 replies
device
2020-12-03 19:33
1 reply
i guess.
2020-12-03 19:34
????? lmao ofc he is , him and dupreeh are the keys of the team who is then? dev1ce? passive awping 1 per round? yeah he is very good , but not best on astralis.
2020-12-03 19:22
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hahahaha youre so delusional. "who is then? dev1ce? passive awping 1 per round? yeah he is very good , but not best on astralis." thats the biggest bs ive ever heard hahaha
2020-12-03 19:24
Are People in this thread trying to outdo the previous dumb comment or what?
2020-12-03 19:16
45 replies
+1 lol imagine thinking a player whos barely scraping top 20 this year would have the same buyout as godlike hardcarries who are the only competitors for best player of the year.
2020-12-03 19:18
29 replies
yeah because the importance of a player is only measured by how well he does on the end of the year ranking only lmao magisk plays on good but hard positions and its very very few times that he doesnt do is job. most of the times he does is job and even more. not going to even talk how many forces he wons them too with so good deagle also magisk has experience in the best team in the world , he would be a most valuable asset to any other team who wants play better. Not saying zywoogod or s1mplegod are bad lmao , but their teams are build around them cuz the rest suck , so best play around your best player if you are complete trash at killing consistenlty
2020-12-03 19:26
19 replies
yeah and whats so hard about his spots? theyre not one and done. hes a lurker and a fairly passive player on t side, usually an anchor on ct with lots of multikill potential. he plays good spots and has decent amounts of freedom.
2020-12-03 19:27
18 replies
But not spots to get multikills to have 1.40 rating like s1mple lmao s1mple plays rotation on most maps , so is always moving to where the action so he will be getting alot of fights , if he wins them , usually he does , than he will get good ratings because of that too. On t side he goes for openings , who is well player but will boost is stats too. magisk doesnt go for openings , because dev1ce does, plays for example pit on inferno and destroys completly, is very rarly that he doesnt get a multi kill. NOT PLAYING ROTATION. if there was a ratio of , how much oponents you see/how much of them you kill. he would be on top. my point is , he doesnt kill more , because of no oportunity, but what he needs to kill , he kills.
2020-12-03 19:29
13 replies
+1 you have a brain, congrats
2020-12-03 19:35
jeez i love all of you tards who just hear rotation and think how easy it is. you have much more responsibility and need to be correct in your rotations most of the time. "magisk doesnt go for openings" but that makes it easier for him lmao. the people who usually entry on astralis are gla1ve, dupreeh, device. magisk and xyp9x are the most passive on T-side and get into a lot of late round situations. "is very rarly that he doesnt get a multi kill" i wonder why his fragging numbers are that low then. he usually plays the big sites that people go to most often. say whatever you want, but he isnt better than device. and hes not a key part of the team, neither is dupreeh. the most key players are device and gla1ve, they define the team. the others all have some good areas, but theyre not key. if magisk was in the same roles, he probably wouldnt be that good. hes a passive player with some decent skills, hes exactly where he should be. he shouldnt be the main carry of a team that has the potential to consistently be top 5
2020-12-03 19:46
11 replies
Hahahahah how can you be so damn stupid. Waaaauw
2020-12-03 20:46
say whatever you want, but he isnt better than device. and hes not a key part of the team, neither is dupreeh. the most key players are device and gla1ve, they define the team. the others all have some good areas, but theyre not key. Hahahahaha what is this??? I really hope this is bait. It really must be. Hahahhavav
2020-12-03 20:49
7 replies
its a fact. idc if your butthurt brain cant stand it. gla1ve and device are by significant margins the most important players on the team.
2020-12-03 20:52
6 replies
What are you 12?? It's not a fact at all.
2020-12-03 20:53
5 replies
yes it is.
2020-12-03 20:54
4 replies
Tell me why its a fact.
2020-12-03 20:54
3 replies
easily. device is an amazing awper who can perfectly adapt to the style gla1ve and zonic implement while having superstar levels of impact in almost every game, hes also an incredible rifle player and has amazing all around game, can perform in a more loose style as well, play a lot of roles and fluidly switch between them. gla1ve is probably the best igl and made the best team of all time out of a roster that isnt really stacked with superstar names.
2020-12-03 20:59
2 replies
Hahaha what am i reading
2020-12-03 21:02
1 reply
youre so pathetic and braindead
2020-12-03 21:03
braindead take. going for openings with a awp =//= entry fragging lmao dev1ce ,zywoo,s1mple,mir,elige etc,etc goes for openings, doesnt mean they are the entry fraggers lmao , or they wouldnt be putting up this numbers ,not even close. When you cant even understand that , is hard to even keep having an argument with you... As my grandfather used to say: “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
2020-12-03 22:25
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smh. device doesnt have an awp in every single round, especially not on the t side. absolute idiot.
2020-12-03 22:40
ALSO , HE IS NOT A LURKER. xpy9x is lurking lmao, you dont even seem danish or you realy dont watch astralis
2020-12-03 19:30
3 replies
he is a lurker sometimes. nuke for example.
2020-12-03 19:31
2 replies
kkkk , not sometimes. always. magisk is the support alternating with gla1ve depending on spawn , utility , etc
2020-12-03 22:25
1 reply
sometimes hes lurking.
2020-12-03 22:41
magisk besides of being one of the best riflers in the world, can also igl and has knoweledge of entire astralis strats, all of which would boost his worth to any team that could acquire him.
2020-12-03 19:37
8 replies
yeah and he wasnt some insane igl, he was just ok. the team relied way more on individuals when he called. i also cant see how itd be useful for him to know strats that are gonna be outdated in a short time, astralis would get a different player with different skills and maybe different roles, the strats wouldnt stay the same.
2020-12-03 19:41
2 replies
This is a good point because it shows how when they relied more on their individuals they struggled more. Not saying they're not gifted players we all know they are but it's definitely easier to lose games if you're relying on your stars (G2, Faze, NaVi). But with Gla1ve being back means they rely less on individuals and are stronger overall.
2020-12-03 22:29
1 reply
+1
2020-12-03 22:43
I agreee with you. This tense guy is obviously trolling. Don't mind him.
2020-12-03 20:50
4 replies
jeez this is some next level cringe. what a snowflake
2020-12-03 20:53
3 replies
I only see one extremely low iq cringe guy here.
2020-12-03 20:54
2 replies
yes. yourself
2020-12-03 20:54
1 reply
Cute
2020-12-03 20:55
look who's talking. fan of CeRq. lmao. Why would you take part in a discussion regarding smart players. you're clearly not into that.
2020-12-03 19:20
5 replies
And whats your argument? Jumping on my flair, and then you call me stupid? Jesus please think for a second before you write some dumb shit
2020-12-03 19:22
1 reply
bruh cerq is one of the best awpers
2020-12-03 19:33
great arguments kekw
2020-12-03 19:22
2 replies
you seem very combative in this forum. is there a reason for this?
2020-12-03 19:28
1 reply
wdym?
2020-12-03 19:28
Nice arguments my friend, i bet you're gonna amount alot in your life. Gl
2020-12-03 19:40
8 replies
Well it wasnt an argument, it was a rhetorical question, its ok if your brain is undeveloped so you dont get it
2020-12-03 19:48
7 replies
That was neither rhetorical nor a question, but whatever you say. I have no reason to argue with somebody who has mental capacity of an infant, so please, do be on your way.
2020-12-03 19:51
6 replies
Well you arent showing much mental capacity with your statement so why should i bother
2020-12-03 19:53
5 replies
Why are you asking me? Why did you bother with your pointless comment in the first place? You lack the ability to comprehend that a player that can rifle at top tier, igl at top tier, and has the strats of the best cs:go team of all time would be priced highly, even after seeing how many teams have problems with igls nowadays. Besides of not wanting to deal with immature children, i do not like you and i would ask you to never reply to me again.
2020-12-03 20:02
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Yes you dont like me because i disagree with you, and im childish Half of his calls were questionable and his fragging dropped by 30 % at least, he also has better players of his disposal that he didnt have to improve and i am not sure he would do that good if you throw him in a new team like alex in C9 Alex went for 500 k, how much do you think MAYBE slightly better igl and better fragger would go for? I reckon S1mple and zywoo at least 1.5 mil if not more Have a nice day
2020-12-03 20:08
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"Are People in this thread trying to outdo the previous dumb comment or what?" 1.What reason would i have to like you after you come up with that comment? Randomly insulting people who you don't agree with is the definition of childish behavior. 2. I said his buyout would be "around the same" not necesserily exactly equal or higher. 3.His rating dropped went from 1.10 (all time) to 1.08(last 6 months) Which isn't really a big deal. Besides, he also had to play with 2 substitute players before glaive came back from his break. I personally don't think of alex as anybody special, he still has to prove he can do anything against top teams without "zywoo kill" strat. I have 15+ years of cs experience, and from my point of view, if alex costs 500k i would not hesitate to pay a whole lot more for a player like magisk, whose experience from astralis alone would also help build a good structure to the team.
2020-12-03 20:25
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You May not be stupid, but in my opinion your comment was, i did not call you a dumbass, Yes you Will pay More for him than for alex (personally you), which is still imo not close to S1mple or zywoo which is the subject of your comment And alex relied on zywoo, (People claims for now as C9 is New), but magisk has a well established roster, he isnt fully put to the test, igl isnt only strats and calls which werent that good imo, its polishing out your players too
2020-12-03 20:37
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That was rude regardless. "Yes you Will pay More for him than for alex (personally you), which is still imo not close to S1mple or zywoo which is the subject of your comment" Well, my comment did also strat with "I THINK" which obviously means it's my opinion and not a fact.
2020-12-03 20:41
he might be good but i will never respect him after the "+1" about ropz after JW talked shit
2020-12-03 19:52
8 replies
fr huge crybaby
2020-12-03 20:05
7 replies
nah that just said everything about his personality
2020-12-03 20:05
6 replies
yes
2020-12-03 20:07
5 replies
yes
2020-12-03 20:09
4 replies
then why did you say nah in #134?
2020-12-03 20:09
3 replies
fk... i thought u mean i am a crybaby
2020-12-03 20:10
2 replies
no. i said magisk is.
2020-12-03 20:10
1 reply
damn.
2020-12-03 20:11
He is an absolute headshot machine rifler and pistol guy - the Edward of 1.6 vibes (2009-2012) implemented in CSGO
2020-12-03 19:58
6 replies
"headshot machine rifler"??? he usually sprays.
2020-12-03 20:04
5 replies
Like Edward, but usually hits the head, its called headshot Have a nice day !
2020-12-03 20:07
4 replies
usually hits the head. *45.5% headshots this year while getting 0.69 kills per round*
2020-12-03 20:09
3 replies
He is the main reason why Astralis had so big success, simular style to Edward in the way he plays the game Have A Nice Day !
2020-12-03 20:11
2 replies
"He is the main reason why Astralis had so big success" what makes you say that?
2020-12-03 20:12
1 reply
LULW Ecovice malding Getting eco frags is not what you call impact
2020-12-04 09:05
Ropz better than niko and also untiltable.
2020-12-03 20:39
2 replies
what does it have to do with this thread? :D
2020-12-03 22:48
Niko and Elec just as incosistent as flamie lmao, going from 30+ to 12 kills pr game
2020-12-04 09:00
yeah he was absence for quite a while
2020-12-04 12:12
that double kill clutch on ruins was so amazing when he flicked back instant hs
2020-12-04 13:40
best player on astralis definitely
2020-12-04 13:59
3 replies
jesus not this again. absolute bs
2020-12-04 14:04
2 replies
yeah sure tell me its device
2020-12-04 14:04
1 reply
ofc i will. thats just common sense.
2020-12-04 14:05
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dont forget nivera guys , hes really decent whenever he plays as rifler
2020-12-04 14:11
n°1 rifler in the world
2020-12-04 14:12
+1 He is back to railing enemies in B site dust2 and pit Inferno
2020-12-04 14:13
14 replies
he was always in there lol. idek how he is affected by "igling" on ct side. he didnt change spots. he was just calling.
2020-12-04 14:15
13 replies
yeah but did you notice how crazy gla1ve was fragging out even while calling? He's fkn insane
2020-12-04 14:16
1 reply
i mean yeah he has really good games sometimes.
2020-12-04 14:20
Retard spotted again
2020-12-04 20:22
10 replies
yeah? apparently by your logic, magisk changed spots on ct side. jesus youre more stupid than i thought. he played in the same positions as before.
2020-12-04 20:23
9 replies
Mad cause stupid?
2020-12-04 20:28
8 replies
just stfu already its tiring to talk to you.
2020-12-04 20:29
7 replies
I'm not the one saying magisk is not really that good and then later saying he is a beast. I'm not the one saying astralis only have 2 key players and the rest is irrelevant and can be replaced any day of the week. It's so damn unreal and stupid.
2020-12-04 20:36
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"irrelevant and can be replaced any day of the week" dont put words in my mouth. i never said that. i just said that they're not as important and if anyone were to go out of the team, it should be one of the 3. "I'm not the one saying magisk is not really that good" he's not that good meaning he's not an S tier player, not that he's bad. once again putting words into my mouth.
2020-12-04 20:39
5 replies
Why do you always quote everything people are writing? So annoying. You comment on everything in here like you know it all. Just because you say he is not S tier does not mean its true, luckily or maybe Astralis should hire an S Tier analyst like you.
2020-12-04 20:50
4 replies
"Just because you say he is not S tier does not mean its true" could say the same thing about you.
2020-12-04 20:52
3 replies
And again you quote. Hahahahhahahaha
2020-12-04 20:55
2 replies
"And again you quote." yes because it makes it more understandable and you always know what im talking about. nice argument also
2020-12-04 20:58
1 reply
Hahaahhaahahahahah. Ok
2020-12-04 21:09
A lot of the arguments on here are very hard to make because they are comparing riflers who play totally different roles. Comparing guys like Electronic and Dupreeh to Magisk, Niko, and Ropz is very difficult because Elec and Dupreeh are hard entries for their team on T side which is a much more difficult role to boost your HLTV rating. So comparing ratings isnt as relevant here. Hunter, Dupreeh, Electronic will be underrated a lot based on rating. Also I think K0nfig should be in consideration for this year because as an entry he has been dominant, same with mir.
2020-12-04 20:22
4 replies
"hard entries" theyre not though??? gla1ve, device also do a considerable chunk of the entryfragging and boombl4 as well, sometimes even perfecto on train. electronic is often lurking. and why would hunter be underrated if you judge by his stats?
2020-12-04 20:26
3 replies
Most often on T side it is dupreeh and electronic making the plays and opening up space for their teams. I agree Boombl4 is very underrated in this respect because he is often first onto a site as well, but elec and dupreeh play very difficult roles and post elite numbers considering it. BlameF, Ropz, Niko, stavn are very different in this regard. Xantares, Zehn, Frozen have also been amazing riflers this year too.
2020-12-04 20:27
2 replies
as i said, dupreeh isnt entryfragging as often as you say and he has a great team behind him that makes the job easier. hes not like art or friberg in the old days, almost no one is. on a lot of maps other players on astralis go for the aggressive plays. for example device on inferno. if anything dupreehs ct play is more underrated. hes really good on vertigo b site for example
2020-12-04 20:33
1 reply
Sure. Good points. Was just highlighting the fact that people are comparing a lot of riflers who have very different playstyles and roles and using ratings to make comparisons but it is not a direct comparison and doesn't capture the essence of what makes certain players so effective.
2020-12-04 21:22
He has such high impact
2020-12-05 05:21
prime coldzera and fallen better
2020-12-05 05:22
6 replies
prime coldzera was a baiter and fallen was always trash, imagine getting destroyed by copenhagen flames twice hahahah
2020-12-05 14:45
5 replies
Thanks for your peanut brain. Ow, fuck, there is soy in the middle. disgusting.
2020-12-05 22:43
4 replies
fake flagging poorzil so mad that his shit country is irrelevant
2020-12-06 00:00
3 replies
soy boy got mad lol.
2020-12-06 00:01
2 replies
bra71L fan got exposed, go cry in poor-tugese like the rest of ur low iq fanbase
2020-12-06 00:46
1 reply
triggered omegalul
2020-12-06 02:24
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