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what do you think about this s1mple fans?
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everyone knows zywoo is best by far. a true team player, god zywoo!
only delusionals say that simp is close to zywoo.
tier 1
Zywoo
Tier 2
Niko
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Device
stavn
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god tier, no one even comes close:
ropz
tier 1
Zywoo
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he is probably #2 in the world
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stavn hahaha
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yes. best player in the #2 team in the world.
jealous because all swedistan teams suck?
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best player in the #2 team in the world. doesnt mean hes a top 5 player. heroic have 4 really good players. sure, stavn is a monster, probably like a top 10 player, but not top 5
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just mentioned some tier 2 players. never said he is top 5.
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yeah im an idiot
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maybe not but you sure cry a lot. pro tip. relax a bit.
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cry is free ahmed
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nt swedistan
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thanks for the nice. made me a bit happy and now im not crying anymore.
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good, you deserve some happiness.
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look at his stats though. top 5 rating right now i think
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s0mple with his retarded english
he meant the opposite
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if thats what you want to believe...
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i dont think ... pause ... he is still number 1 you know
if u watch full interview its quite clear what he wanted to say, idk why he stuttered there
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if he stuttered its because he isnt confident in what he was saying so either way he knows zywoo is better than him
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now i agree
He had no reason to mention zywoo if he didn't want to say that he's number 1.Btw that was in january so ofc he would say that.
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it was after the game where s1mple went crazy and got like 40 kills so interviewer asked him u think zywoo is better than u ? expecting a no answer
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Did you watch the video?Bankz said " I'm here with the real best player in the world " no mention of zywoo whatsoever.And simple rightfully said that he's not bc it hadn't even been two months since he lost his number 1 title to Zywoo.
Idk if you're just bad with englisht or don't want to understand.
hltv.org/matches/2339103/complexity-vs-n..
- February.
simple was 3rd best performer in his team that game. Plus zywoo destroyed him one game before with 1.45 rating.
lmao
0/8 cry is free s0mple fan
Considering s1mple is hoisting the same stats with a much worse overall team actually means he's better IMO, but whatever we suck the french baguettes
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cry is free kkkkkkkkkkk
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cry is only free when you make an account to objectify nivera you boytoy gaylover
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p1mple fangirl malding ^
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mens)) ur moms d1mples have bigger faces than your entire family tree
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p0mple fangirl malding even more ^
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mens(( i can see your leg sticking out
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although speaking objectively he isn't just baiting, is normally makes play
but not normally???11111
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I think that's short-sighted. The reason is, s1mple uses the AWP more than ZywOo, on T-side. It's not advisable to be a "permanent entry" with AWP, because then you have to adjust aim and hit the 1st shot. If you miss, 6500-7000 dollars of total investment is gone. Even if you kill a player, you'd be traded, and the loss is more on your side. Thus, not worth it. AWPers do indeed entry, when the spawn is favourable (Like Long spawn on D2), or if it's a specific strat, that requires the AWPer to go 1st. Otherwise, primary riflers are the permanent entries. Now, why s1mple uses the AWP more than Zywoo? Because Navi has no other decent option for a consistent AWPer. Only other option is flamie and he is crap. Navi doesn't have a Shox/Nivera, who can AWP relatively decently.
On CT side, both of them AWP equally. But s1mple is the constant CT rotator (unlike an anchor like Zywoo), keeps moving between A and B, depending on enemy info, and is usually the one to take 1st contact with enemies, and get kills. Taking contact against aggressive T's, is tactically advantageous for an AWPer. That's why his CT side rating is high.
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I guess Navi's management seems to think that s1mple on AWP is better impact in the team, than s1mple entry and somebody else AWP. s1mple is doing the job he's given, literally. He is forced to play passive nowadays, since his life is prioritized, and I agree this is bad. His natural style is a flashy aggressive one, as we all know. But he's being made to play like device nowadays. Maybe electronic and s1mple should be made permanent entries idk.
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nt he plays in the CIS scene. he should have insane stats playing those trash teams all the time. Zywoo and vitality play in EU, its another story. Not as easy getting frags.
And simp baits for stats and saves when he can win rounds because he want to get good stats.
Zywoo goes for entry and everything, its another lvl on zywoo vs simp. Zywoo want to win, simp want to get good stats.
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You can clearly see he got better stats vs worse opponents.
And he plays bad opponents often in CIS so he get so many easy frags. You dont understand that?
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That sounds normal to have better stats against worse opponents lol? And the rating is only like a .02 difference between top 5 teams.
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So even with such inflated stats for simp, zywoo got better rating.
So he is far better.
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But s1mple has more than twice the maps of zywoo in every category?
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your point being?
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So stats aren't inflated when you have a much smaller sample size?
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of course they are. why would they not be? simp is still playing vs cis teams..
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Most of his matches are against Astralis, Vitality, G2, OG, NIP, and few matches of the TOP CIS teams. But whatever, and zywoo plays against CIS too? but w/e
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Navi plays tournaments in CIS region, like IEM New York 2020 CIS - 4th. Its not just vs the best cis teams (which are not that good) but also teams like espada, forze, spirit, vp and others.
Vitality does not play CIS tournaments, big diff bud.
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and I guess zywoo has never played against lower tier french or other european teams, whatever you biased numb nuts individual
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you lost the argument and were wrong so you start with personal attacks. expected :) nt kid.
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whatever makes your ego satisfied, everybody else disagrees with you in this thread but naturally that doesn't matter.
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hahaha how delusional are you?
one smart person that is correct vs two dumb people who are wrong... Why would i care about you having another opinion when you are wrong?
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Yeah, and when I showed you stats you just ignored it lol, so whatever. Why would I care when you're biased?
But whatever, a troll is a troll :]
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nt dumbo.
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nt fakeflagger
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nt fakeflagger
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he has better stats vs worse teams. easy frags, simple as that. what does more maps matter? 2nd guy that brought that up.
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because you're wrong? Ever thought about that.
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Cant be fun to be as dumb as you. Why would I be wrong?
Try using logic and math next time.
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You just said having more maps doesn't matter, so you're clearly not using logic, but whatever, not my problem.
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he got more maps but still not better stats. so tell me why you think more maps matter. you cant even do that. bye kiddo.
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maintaining the same rating while playing double the maps is obviously a lot harder to do, but a troll is a troll.
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not vs trash cis teams. zywoo is playing in europe and still got better stats.
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You realize that even if you took out all the CIS games s1mple still has more games than zywoo against top european teams?
But then you would have to remove all the shitty german, australian, chinese and NA teams vitality faced.
But whatever you're a troll.
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so what? simp still played worse opponents in a higher % of the games than zywoo. that is what counts. you are obviously not very clever.
and you are the troll.
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haha in this world. simp even admitted and said himself zywoo is #1.
more games vs top 5 teams but not higher % of his games vs top5 teams. which means zywoo have had it harder and still got better stats.
your logic is just wrong. if you cant do simple math why do you even answer and how can you think you are right?
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Actually, your maths would be right, if s1mple's ratings against CIS teams was higher than against EU teams. But it's the opposite. Check #148
Objectively speaking, it means that, s1mple had slightly lesser percentage of games against Top5, still managed to have a better performance against them than Zywoo, and it was good enough to overcome the pull-down from CIS teams, and tie him with ZywOo
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simp got worst stats vs top 5 teams.
If he cant even have good stats vs trash cis, it just proves zywoo is so much better.
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hltv.org/stats?startDate=2020-01-01&endD..
He doesnt have worst stats? He even have more maps u stupid vitaliLUL fangay lmao
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learn math then come back angry kid :D you just sound as stupid as those two.
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not when he plays cis all the time. he should have a lot better stats than zywoo who plays in EU.
nt kid.
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you and simp got owned by zywoo. nt kid
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rekt.
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get well!
1) Actually no, his stats against CIS teams are literally the worst, amongst the other opponents. His stats aginst CIS teams are 1.08, 1.12, 1.14, and highest is 1.16. His CIS stats have actually dragged his stats down. His entire 2020's rating dropped from 1.30 to 1.28 in IEM New York 2020 CIS, although it won't matter because CIS tournaments aren't counted anyway, but his overall rating (which you're talking about) gets low, *because* of that. His stats, playing only the higher-tier teams are much higher.
Taking only the highest Tier1 LANs 2020 and Top-Tier EU tournaments 2020, with absolute winners (check filters on left):
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01..
Taking Tier1 LANs, Tier1 EU, Tier1.5 CIS (check filters on left:
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01..
2) Navi (s1mple) doesn't care about CIS teams, in the CIS tournaments. The reason is, they are irrelevant for rankings. In HLTV Top20 rankings, only "big events" are considered. That means s1mple's performance in CIS events, regardless of good or bad, won't be counted anyway, so it doesn't matter. Navi only plays CIS because it's compulsory, to get into the major. When those same CIS teams come to Tier1 tournaments, Navi wins, every single time.
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Vitality became a good team only when they took Nivera.Before that it was just the Zywoo show all year long.S1mple has an insane team but idk what's going on with them.Electronic and Perfecto are insane.
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vitality is a good team even when nivera is not playing.
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No where near the Vitality with Nivera.Look at the finals prior to the six man roster.It was all a one man army.Adding Nivera relieved a lot of pressure from zywoo,finally he doesn't need to be that one man army.
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they just needed the final experience before succeeding.
Oh another zywho s0mple thread. Can't wait honestly.
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i have provided video evidence.... how is this a bait?
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That was over a year ago 0/8
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ethiopian math KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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Imagine being from the Netherlands- a small irrelevant european country, that will always be in germany`s shadow.
At least Ethiopia is the ruler of its region.
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im not from the nethrlands
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And Im not from Ethiopia
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fake flagger, reported
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You don`t even have the flag of a real country attached to your name, if anyone is "Fakeflagging" it would be you.
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ethiopia isn't a real country at all, what's your point poggers.
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Ethiopia is the realest country in africa, what the fuck are you talking about maple burger
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It's like a massive shit that Egypt took at best
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Ethiopia is older than both the US and Canada, it is the last coptic Country of africa and the ownly africa Country that was never colonised.
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yeah but the camels there are pretty malnourished not gonna lie
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In theory yes, but Liberia was never a real country anyway
even though it was obvious you're a fake flagger
reported for being fake flagger.
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s1mple living rent free in your head
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Well then, talking about individual players,
1) 1v1 official LAN tournament 2019 - s1mple won it. Participants included Niko, device, Rain, Electronic, NBK, etc
hltv.org/news/27933/s1mple-wins-omen-cha..
Also, s1mple has beaten prime olofmeister, prime f0rest, prime JW, scream, woxic and many others in 1v1s before, with all sorts of weapons, on all kinds of maps.
2) In Pro-CSGo, I think it's quite clear anyway. s1mple's practically ahead in almost everything. Right from all the stats, to the number of S-Tier MVPs, to winning esports player of the year awards, to more major finals/semi-finals, to more HLTV Top20 rankings, practically everything. I am not attaching the links.
PS: Niko is a favourite player of mine, one of the greatest-skilled individuals to ever touch the game. Please don't think I don't like him :)
but zywoo still hitting shots...
guys wanna see how it feel to get destroyed by the god himself, trust me he made so many players mad.. this guy is insane youtube.com/watch?v=4Kedsoti7DA
Honestly Niko on a tight leash with a good handler is probably as good if not better then both.
Don't know if we'll ever actually see that but personally I think his mechanics are better.
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I'd say in pure aim when he is feeling it he is the best player to ever play but afaik he doesnt practice as much or doesnt have the insane dedication that s1mple and Zywoo has.He is like a natural talent thats so good he doesnt need practice to be godlike but that means he cant unlock his full potential
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?. he mastered the game. the way he peeks angles, sets himself up for the peek and preaims etc. that isnt raw talent
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twitter.com/HLTVorg/status/1334523742551..
Check this out
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Well there you go. It appears ZywOo will take it again unless:
1. Values change with Blast Premier and IEM Global Challenge.
2. More stats need to be taken into account (i.e achievements and such).
Either way, these guys are both on the same insane level and we are lucky to be able to witness them display such an insane level of skill.
S1mple - 118-70 +48
zywoo - 88-71 +17
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Who won that series, who scored 2 aces in 5 rounds offering his team a victory ?
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it's 10 frags, if -them 78-71 not a very good result
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Those 10 frags were more impactful than all of 118 kills of s1mple
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man u see our flags? we can discuss a lot
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i know so i guess its useless to keep going.
Goodbye.
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Good luck!
Wasnt that like a year ago?
ZywOo is probably become the #1 title. His rating is similar to s1mple's but he had more impact and his team actually won a lot.
s1mple statpadding against team in turkmenistan and mongolia and dare comparing him to zywoo the goat :D
after than he said I DONT THINK ANYONE IS BETTER THAN ME
youtube.com/watch?v=kRk_QY6KbZ8
nt :)
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+he meant that zywoo was top1 in 2019
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NiKo>>>>>>>>>Zywh0
Old ... recently in a stream he said that he thinks he should get no 1 this year
S1mple is right
It's just humour LUL
device should have been at least 2 last year.. even zywoo said device deserve top 1 last year and the best player he played against.. this hltv top 20 is a joke.. simple the whole team play for him so he can frags and boost his stats.. come on be a man stop playing like a pussy and maybe your team will get better
#s are similar but Zyw0o has a higher impact rating always and is a better team player.
Honestly it's so close both are great at what they do but I honestly do feel like Zyw0o is the better player when you account that this is a team game and not like Quake or some shit like that.
If you excuse the language barriers I honestly think if you swapped s1mple to Vitality for Zyw0o, Vitality would become tier 3 or so and Na'vi would win major but that's just my opinion.
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Elaborate?
His play style will fit in any team on this planet that's why he's at the level he is, that's why his FPL and any league or comp he plays he has insanely high win percentage compared with other pro players.
He is the only top player since Olof who actually made his team mates better not worse.
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This is literally just your opinion and not a fact whatsoever, this is literally just fanboying at a point where u think he can do anything, stats back it up? So s1mple would topfrag in what ever team possible too then? Even at vitality? Even at t teams like faze? OH hell no.
Also zywoo didnt pull this number b4 joining vitality, their chemistry is on a New lvl, now stop being so delusional, he wouldnt fit anywhere, and that is also how it should be lmao
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His claim is probably based on the fact that after ALEX left, ZywOo has played almost every role in vitality. He's played primary awp, rifler (anchor), rifler (rotate), entry fragger (all players in vitality play as entry situationally). His awp kill % is nearly the same as rifle kill %. He has high flash assists stats, good grenade damage per round. Also his roles change all the time rn in the 6 man roster
Also ZywOo had like 1.4 rating before joining vitality.
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It's hard to say anything about s1mple. Before joining navi, or even liquid, s1mple didn't have as good of a rating as ZywOo had before joing vitality, or even NiKo had before joining mouz. However, in s1mple's case, his rating only went up after joining liquid and navi. s1mple is easily the best fragger in the world, however he is very one dimensional and it makes him hard to use like ZywOo, device and NiKo.
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So?
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Why would that matter? If you want to compare that way, ZywOo got #1 HLTV in his first year in t1, whereas it took 3 years for s1mple to do the same
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?????
Any team from 2018 or 2019 would rape any team before 2018. The way of playing the game completely changed in 2018 with astralis' introducing heavy use of utility to take map control
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what does skill ceiling has to do with hte amount of competition? Yes, teams are better, but the better teams are also better. It was an more even competitive scene in 16-18. and there's noone saying otherwise, there was around 10 teams who constantly fought for position, now we have these 2 constant teams that you know will win.
This interview was in 2019....
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Nope
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you have to be baiting right? this was a LAN... and there were no Blast pro lans in 2020
kanker handicap
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Blast premier spring groups were on LAN
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