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c9 -woxic -mezii
Albania yovitemeemili 
This team has a lot of potential if they had decent player instead of WOXIC he is not good enough,he was always overrated,they need true star awper if they want to win -woxic -mezii(keep him as sixth cuz he will be very good in a year) +oSee +xeppa u dont have to spend money on them at all and they will give everything they god
2020-12-04 16:18
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just kick mezii
2020-12-04 16:19
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#9
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Germany I_car
-11111111111111
2020-12-04 16:24
#23
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United Kingdom Thing379
you have no clue what your on about. Pipe down and keep out of the forms, causing brain hemorrhages
2020-12-04 16:55
3 replies
mezii would fit well in a tier 2-3 team like endpoint not on a “colossus” but flag checks out
2020-12-04 17:00
1 reply
he's so british lmaooo look at how he speaks
2020-12-05 20:24
mezii is mediocre lol
2020-12-04 23:36
-your mom
2020-12-04 16:19
1 reply
Uf
2020-12-04 16:54
#3
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United Kingdom Twizzlr
Shut up. You know nothing about CS, go home
2020-12-04 16:19
15 replies
Mezzi supporter
2020-12-04 16:54
flag
2020-12-04 17:00
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#105
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India Bobbobob
region checks out
2020-12-04 20:47
1 reply
nt forsaken
2020-12-04 20:47
flag
2020-12-04 18:24
Yeh lets pick up 2 players who have been playing in NA against dog shit teams over players playing in Europe against real talent who statistically arent as good. Hmmm its like theyre playing way harder opposition in europe so they ofcourse are gonna be statistically worse. Id love to see fucking Xeppa and Osee play in europse rather than vs fucking Mythic which is just a bunch of streamers lmao. HLTV kids are moronic ignore them lmao
2020-12-04 23:27
9 replies
wonder why it's only the UK kiddos defending mezii nobody else omegalul
2020-12-04 23:37
5 replies
Im not defending Mezii lmao im defending woxic mostly. I think Mezii is just as unproven as NA onliners
2020-12-04 23:40
4 replies
i think woxic is inconsistent af, he was the worst player on mouz for 6 months straight.
2020-12-04 23:41
3 replies
Online period thats my point. People are asking for changes that will be dog once LAN starts again. Woxic on LAN is one of the best. Xeppa and Osee will be average at best on LAN. We have already seen whilst Osee was playing LAN on C9 he wasnt that good. Floppy and Sonic were just better than him. If someone said hmm lets kick Woxic and pick up like idk maybe Broky id say okay I can see that but for someone clearly worse than him thats stupid af. Its like Mezii if you kick him dont bring in another unproven talent bring in a veteran because thats what the team lacks
2020-12-04 23:50
Chrisj? Karrigan? Frozen?
2020-12-04 23:50
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I think Chrij isnt as bad as people think but he should never be a star player on a team. Its like having Cajunb on North when he was the primary awper. Youre not gonna get enough out of them but the veteran brings so much to the team else where. Karrigan again IGL and for the role frags pretty well. Its down to Frozen, Ropz and Woxic (Old mouse) new mouse lets be real Bymas isnt a star either so youre putting it all on Frozen and Ropz now to carry games
2020-12-05 23:53
In 2020 mezii has a .89 against top 30 teams, osee has a 1.07 and xeppa has a 1.11 Woxic at a 1.05 which isn't bad
2020-12-05 18:59
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Okay for starters. Lets factor out online games. LAN performances VS top 30 teams Osee had a 0.99 rating. Xeppa has never played a LAN game vs a top 30 team. Now Woxic had a 1.17 rating vs top 30 on lan and mezii has also never played on LAN vs top 30. That clearly shows that Woxic is a far better LAN player and one of the rumours for him being removed from Mouse was his lack of motivation for online. Thats a really bad thing but means when LAN comes back he may improve even more. Then Mezii again I really do question his potential but he hasnt even been given a chance. Osee had his shot on C9 previously and had an abysmal performance until the online period which removed alot of the talent anyways. Same concept with Xeppa, you remove EU teams and that leaves you with Liquid, EG and a bunch of teams that wouldnt even be tier 3 in europe. So Xeppa and Osee ratings online mean absolutely nothing, I dont care if an NA team has been ranked top 30 in the online period, other than Liquid EG who also have been lackluster in the EU
2020-12-05 23:51
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I mean LANs don't really matter right now do they, xeppa would have been at lans if covid wasn't around but we can't really change that :) Guess we'll see how xeppa plays when they're in EU soon
2020-12-05 23:58
albanian scene
2020-12-04 16:19
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+1
2020-12-04 16:54
I think they should look more at the europeans since they are more used to the playstyle
2020-12-04 16:20
6 replies
Like who?
2020-12-04 16:54
5 replies
Someone. Maybe just take Kjaerbye & Olof whenever they are done with faze or some of the other players because there are more good choices
2020-12-04 17:08
4 replies
u need awper and support kjaebye is not support olof doesnt want to play anymore
2020-12-04 18:06
3 replies
Just an idea of all the possiple players
2020-12-04 18:34
2 replies
#97
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United States Fule
all possible players kek says 1 player under new contract and 1 player who doesnt wanna play
2020-12-04 20:31
1 reply
If what cold said a few days ago about changing 2 players to fix faze then shakerbye is going to be on the chopping block next, olof is just a stand-in so he is leaving anyway.
2020-12-05 10:41
you play instead of woxic please.... :) :) :) :) easy to criticize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-12-04 16:20
1 reply
He is payed 1 5 milion
2020-12-04 16:53
probably would be better to kick woxic then mezzi. Woxic lacks a brain
2020-12-04 16:29
1 reply
And misses a lot
2020-12-04 16:53
I agree that they should kick woxic and mezii but replace them with osee and xeppa? wtf if you are gonna kick players, at least upgrade them
2020-12-04 16:34
10 replies
They spent already too much money and they can get these to for nothing
2020-12-04 16:51
2 replies
oSee already turned down the offer to join the project and I'd rather see them develop Mezii over Xeppa tbh. Xeppa has been good, but he's really only been on 1 team before so it's hard to tell how he'd do in a new system. Plus, Xeppa definitely got to play matches against much lower teams to ease his way into the Chaos system compared to Mezii. Xeppa > Mezii right now for sure, but being less than 1 month and only 2 online tournaments into a 3 year project I think its too early to make changes.
2020-12-04 18:47
They spent 2.1m on a player who had no real prospects before his tiny run on astralis on the online era of CS. They have money to burn obviously.
2020-12-04 23:43
osee is a upgrade though
2020-12-04 16:54
6 replies
For sure he doesnt miss and is smarter than woxic
2020-12-04 16:56
5 replies
#73
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North America 007DBR9
he's never gonna be as good as lan woxic though
2020-12-04 18:16
4 replies
how can u know that
2020-12-04 18:16
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#76
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North America 007DBR9
because lan woxic has one of the highest peaks of any awper?
2020-12-04 18:17
2 replies
deadass i can name like 8-10 awpers with a higher peak than woxic and definately more consistent and team friendly
2020-12-04 20:53
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#125
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Slovakia Daev0n
Why isn't woxic team friendly lmao?
2020-12-04 23:12
#17
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United Kingdom SkaTyce
give them some time man they havent even played 10 matches together as a team
2020-12-04 16:54
6 replies
true but woxic does some stupid mistakes
2020-12-04 16:55
Woxic is just bad dude it has nothing to do with team
2020-12-04 16:55
4 replies
#88
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United Kingdom SkaTyce
Good players can have bad patches, woxic has alot of skill and just needs to find his form again
2020-12-04 18:52
2 replies
#98
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United States Fule
nt henryg
2020-12-04 20:32
1 reply
Haha
2020-12-05 11:23
You're really dumb lol
2020-12-04 20:40
#21
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Chile esanchez47
-1/8
2020-12-04 16:54
3 replies
Not possible
2020-12-04 16:56
(Square root of -1)/8
2020-12-04 18:16
1 reply
that is:i/8
2020-12-04 18:55
3 replies
He is just bad
2020-12-04 16:56
2 replies
FLAG Checks out ahahah best player lobanjica or maden?
2020-12-04 16:59
1 reply
Flag checks out too hahaha
2020-12-04 23:47
woxic can be insane, he is just inconsistent. Lul people expect a team to be good against T1 opponents after a month. Give them time, idiots
2020-12-04 16:56
2 replies
woxic was worst player for mouz last 6 months there
2020-12-04 18:06
1 reply
Thats actually true.
2020-12-04 23:11
#34
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United States Den422
woxic is fine but mezii gotta go dude
2020-12-04 17:14
21 replies
#36
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
0/8. People saying Woxic is fine when he is doing worse? lol. No one needs to be kicked or should be kicked. Give a team time instead of crying about -Blabla after 2 months.
2020-12-04 17:28
20 replies
#38
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Denmark HurtigeHH
Maybe the roster have been together 2 months, but they only have tournament experience together for 2-3 weeks
2020-12-04 17:30
7 replies
#40
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Yeah, that as well. I just dont get people saying "-Blabla" "This and that", like wtf, give a brand new lineup some time lol. They expect new C9 to win a major within 3 weeks lol.
2020-12-04 17:33
6 replies
It's just odd how people defend this weird lineup of players. Woxic has been in a bad/inconsistent form for like the past 7 months, others are unproven, es3tag is a fluke who played well for like 3 months on astralis on the ONLINE era, but was mediocre before that for a long long time. Give them time sure, but I don't see a future with this weird ass lineup of players.
2020-12-04 23:47
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#141
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"this weird lineup of players"? lol We can say that about: FaZe, G2, OG, coL, Godsent etc etc. This is not a weird lineup at all. It is a international lineup.
2020-12-04 23:56
1 reply
And guess what, all of those teams except G2 who has a lot more cohesion now has been beyond fuckin inconsistent and horrid. You can say OG is rank 6th rn but they have not won a single tournament for the entire year the team has existed. Prove to me this will be a different result.
2020-12-04 23:59
Well maybe you need to explain that to HenryG though, he posted something about winning flashpoint with brand new team 🤣
2020-12-05 10:46
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#150
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Again: Who the f*ck cares what the GM says? Seems like its only C9 haters that does.
2020-12-05 11:18
1 reply
Yeah right, Gm is part of the management he needs to be a sensible person, what he says isn't making sense and is ruining the brand name. But explaining that to a c9 biased fan like you is impossible. Continue with what you think.
2020-12-06 01:54
#41
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United States Den422
ofc the British guy is gonna stand up for Mezii mezii is an unknown and irrelevant player who has bottom fragged every game for C9 so far and doesnt look promising at all they need an actual tier 1 player that can match the rest of the squad they arent breaking top 15 with this roster
2020-12-04 17:51
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#44
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"ofc the British guy is gonna stand up for Mezii" ZzZzZzZzZz. Lame ass "argument". "mezii is an unknown and irrelevant player who has bottom fragged every game for C9 so far" Oh, nice, you have not looked at any C9 game i see. hltv.org/matches/2345295/cloud9-vs-virtu.. hltv.org/matches/2345398/complexity-vs-c.. hltv.org/matches/2345612/cloud9-vs-ence-.. "mezii is an unknown and irrelevant player", you do know that EVERY SINGLE PLAYER that enter the T1-T2 scene is unknown right? Jesus. "they arent breaking top 15 with this roster" We dont know that. They have been a team for 2 months and ofc you clowns on HLTV type shit towards them. Stop chatting shit when you dont know shit, lol. C9s new squad have played 9 bo3s and won vs coL, Spirit, NIP, Ence + took OG to OT. That is not bad at all for being a new squad thats been praccing for... 1½ month, if even that. Es3 joined 1 month ago, so.
2020-12-04 17:58
10 replies
i didnt say that mezzi is bad i would like him to develop and give him a chance in a year,and he is not a support he needs to be second or first star of the team when he peeks in a few years
2020-12-04 18:10
6 replies
#65
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Why would they keep a youngster as a "6th" and let him play in 1 year when they can give him the chance now and let him get experience online vs good teams? lol. You make ZERO sense mate. "And he is not a support", Yes he is: twitter.com/henrygcsgo/status/1307352476.. So stop please lol.
2020-12-04 18:20
5 replies
they gave him that role that doesnt meen that is right role for him dude how are u so stuppid. Same with MIBR putting TRK on support when he was better than all of them at the time
2020-12-04 18:13
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#70
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"they gave him that role" Because that is his role...omg man...he even played the same role in GL... YOU are stupid. You talk about putting him as a 6th player and play him in a year blabla like no? lol. Dont change anything and let them grind instead.
2020-12-04 18:15
3 replies
again that is not good role for him in my opinion u just seem to think that every player right now is given perfect role for them
2020-12-04 18:16
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#78
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"again that is not good role for him in my opinion" It is. He just need to get used to playing against VERY good players, something he have not done before. "u just seem to think that every player right now is given perfect role for them" No? But, Meziis role before was support and Meziis role now is support so?
2020-12-04 18:19
1 reply
bluku bluku mandem spittin fax
2020-12-04 21:58
Man... double E you sound like a fuckin idiot every one says kick mezii and you are the only one saying they shouldnt and really going into details with links and statistics like some kind of hardcore fuckin clown lmfao who gives a shit bro
2020-12-05 18:32
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#153
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
D Double E* thank you. "every one says kick mezii and you are the only one saying they shouldnt" Lmfao 0/8. You people are just dumb. Its that simple. You clearly gave a shit, so.
2020-12-05 18:44
1 reply
Lmao wordd bud Happy Holidays mate
2020-12-05 19:25
#35
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
lol 0/8.
2020-12-04 17:28
8 replies
mezzi fanboy
2020-12-04 18:07
7 replies
#55
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
#35 More like know what i am talking about. You are just plain STUPID when you talk about "- blabla" after a few weeks of practice. They have beaten GOOD teams, yet you chat shit lol.
2020-12-04 18:08
6 replies
i didnt say to remove mezii for good i sad they need to keep him and give him chance in a year
2020-12-04 18:09
5 replies
#60
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
"i sad they need to keep him and give him chance in a year" LMFAO. Wtf man. No. Mezii is doing good and he is doing his role perfectly as well. You just look at stats and go "oH tHiS pLaYeR iS bAd".
2020-12-04 18:10
4 replies
no he is not support he needs to be developed to be first or second star and not to play shit rolls cuz he has a lot of talent
2020-12-04 18:11
3 replies
#67
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
#65 you are so dumb man, please stop. Mezii is the support. He was the support in GL as well, just stop man, give him time.
2020-12-04 18:13
2 replies
u are dumb if they give him role doesnt meen that is best role for him
2020-12-04 18:14
1 reply
#71
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
youtube.com/watch?v=Hds9tFMuU8o BECAUSE IT IS HIS ROLE He played that role in GL as well. Just give up man. You clearly dont support C9 and they wont remove anyone for a LONG time. They might add a 6th player in a year or so.
2020-12-04 18:16
#37
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Denmark HurtigeHH
-no one Give roster some time
2020-12-04 17:29
7 replies
no way we need results now
2020-12-04 18:07
2 replies
#64
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Denmark HurtigeHH
u are not very smart, if u expect that from any new formed roster
2020-12-04 18:11
1 reply
they went in with like 5 mil on this roster they cant be top 15 team they need to be top 6
2020-12-04 18:12
#77
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North America 007DBR9
to be fair they've already beaten decent teams, most notably col and spirit
2020-12-04 18:19
3 replies
yeah because those are both "really good teams". coL definitely hasn't been losing to most teams recently.
2020-12-05 00:12
To be fair the hate from some people isn't uncalled for, all the hate towards c9 is because Henry opened his mouth too big and wasn't able to deliver. Every time any org changes even a single player they don't come and say "we are going to be number one from first event itself." Instead they say "We just changed a player so we should be able to deliver good match In about 2 months." Unlike HenryG that posted that they will win Flashpoint with brand new line-up. Just Calling it Colossus isn't going to make them play better.
2020-12-05 10:58
Yeah. But you always need to remember that those teams didn't have real demos to prep/antistrat. With time C9 will improve a lot, or drop to dogshit when opponents have real antistrats and demo footage.
2020-12-05 18:53
They'll probably wait to see what this squad can achieve on LAN and this is what they should do.
2020-12-04 17:31
3 replies
no way no one knows when lan wil start
2020-12-04 18:07
+1
2020-12-04 20:43
LAN never stopped them from dropping their previous squad
2020-12-05 00:13
-toxic +anyone
2020-12-04 17:52
1 reply
+1
2020-12-04 18:07
this is assuming these two would want to move to EU though... from what it looks like most of the chaos guys are alrdy likely to leave for valorant anyways. and osee is any better or worse than woxic tbh, only benefit i could see if that him and floppy have played together for a while so thered be some chemistry there for c9 to work with
2020-12-04 17:54
6 replies
valorant will die soon only NA is invested and its hard to watch valorant games they are confusing they would accept c9 offer for sure i think that oSee is still under contract
2020-12-04 18:08
1 reply
i mean, theres no way of knowing whether valorant will die soon or not. overwatch lasted a few years, and theres still quite a lot of money in that. and overwatch is arguably 10 times more "confusing".
2020-12-04 20:52
#58
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
Yupp. Also the New England Whalers guys will most likely leave for Valorant as well. Well, everyone except Ben1337, he said that he wont.
2020-12-04 18:09
osee is way more consistent and has more potential than woxic
2020-12-04 22:03
2 replies
consistent maybe, but at their peaks id say woxic probably better. woxics issue has always been consistency, if he was consistent hed easily be one of the best awpers in the world imo
2020-12-04 22:32
1 reply
well obviously woxic has had a higher peak, but osee hasn't even been to that point yet
2020-12-04 22:59
ill bring back the real WOXIC and Getting knife by KARRIGAN .humiliated ZERO impact AWP
2020-12-04 18:08
1 reply
+1
2020-12-04 18:08
woxic is fine but kick mezii yes agreed
2020-12-04 18:05
Mezii can improve still. But woxic is washed up and getting paid too much. He got the contract whatever so lets hope he can remember his 2019 play and his 2015 character which was not bad. He has poor attitude since the starting of the 2020.
2020-12-04 18:06
2 replies
i sad keep mezii and give him chance in a year
2020-12-04 18:08
1 reply
Yeah he is still young and don't have experience. He can be decent or at least good role player.
2020-12-04 18:10
oSee was already offered to stay in c9 but he declined to stick with the old crew maybe junior?
2020-12-04 18:21
2 replies
not sure but if they told him to play he would have to
2020-12-04 20:29
1 reply
I forgot he was still on bench yeah
2020-12-04 20:50
+1 woxic has always been overrated
2020-12-04 18:23
1 reply
for sure
2020-12-04 20:29
#82
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United States zer0xr0
Dude they literally have only played 9 matches
2020-12-04 18:26
1 reply
woxic is individually really bad
2020-12-04 20:29
#83
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Finland dvlx
nt kid
2020-12-04 18:28
2 replies
-1
2020-12-04 20:29
#95
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United Kingdom DDoubleE
+1
2020-12-04 20:30
#85
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Finland Spoelstra
Woxic is a LAN player and we are in the online era. He has so much ups and downs online, so inconsistent that led the Mousesports free fall at the beginning of the year. Alex and Kassad need to find a way to use him as efficient as they can. Also I think he had needed a time-off period after the mouz break up, to clear up his mind. This is not a mentally healthy situation for him and for C9. If there is an ending this corona shit and Lan games start we can see the real potential of this team with Woxic. IF not, I don't think there will be a lot of progression in this team.
2020-12-04 18:34
1 reply
woxic is bad player
2020-12-04 20:30
#87
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France SirC44
I think its important for a team like them to have a rookie, whether mezii is the right one or notm ehh, he seems to be doing ok They still need more time to adapt and change roles Kassad is deffo a good enough coach to make a team like that work
2020-12-04 18:51
#96
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Georgia Megobari
Kick no one and give them more time
2020-12-04 20:31
+ UR MOM?
2020-12-04 20:32
#101
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Poland Aiko_
XD + two NA bots
2020-12-04 20:41
1 reply
#102
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Poland Aiko_
If they rly want to make changes they should get dycha
2020-12-04 20:42
just remove woxic mezi and bring Juanflatroo and Gxx
2020-12-04 20:47
woxic so noob
2020-12-04 20:53
Nah. Team is way too new to make any changes at all. Any changes made 10 online maps into the team would make C9 look stupid AF and it will literally never happen. I will say. Woxic sometimes seems to have that same 15 degree problem Draken used to have back in the day but his 2019 was so stellar I would give him 9 months literally to try and get it back. You have to let a guy like that play a few LANs before you toss him out. Mezzi you can probably let go during the online era (as well as Floppy truth be told but his ceiling I think is obviously higher and he's played well-ish) but even then if you are HenryG and you really do believe in these players you are going to give them half a year at least.
2020-12-04 21:02
2 replies
Woxic problem is that his mouse sen is literally so high that he whiffed the easiest shots and made the hardest flick
2020-12-04 23:33
Plus I don't think C9 plans on spending any more money anytime soon.
2020-12-05 11:00
-Woxic +Device
2020-12-04 22:42
Mezzi isnt that bad in other hand Woxic should be replaced
2020-12-04 22:44
#118
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Netherlands staticNL
give them a bit more time
2020-12-04 22:48
#121
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Oceania soz1
yeah
2020-12-04 23:02
Saying woxic was always overrated is so braindead, YES he is having a terrible year and YES his performance lately is super fucking bad and nowhere near any of the good awpers in the scene but in 2019 woxic was amazing, #8 highest rated on big events in the world in 2019, super crucial in big games, deserved #12 in hltv top20, also in HellRaisers before that the best player and doing really well.
2020-12-04 23:06
1 reply
+1
2020-12-04 23:19
save calyx ffs
2020-12-04 23:18
#143
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Japan lur0s
No lol
2020-12-05 00:01
C9 refund money and disband!
2020-12-05 18:55
only - mezi why would you bench woxic
2020-12-05 20:09
1 reply
#159
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Estonia qoznyyy
+1 the flag itself should be obvious sign
2020-12-05 20:12
mezii is so bad he is the only one who should get kicked..
2020-12-05 20:14
+1 PLEASE DO IT! at least -mezii +xeppa fast pls. too many passive players in this roster right now
2020-12-05 20:18
#166
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United States BrownD15
W0xics issue has to do with CONSISTENCY not talent. You’ve seen the raw mechanics he can display — he just needs to do it in a reliable basis. Give it time he will be there. As for Mezii I have faith that he will clean up just a bit — but faith is all I’m relying on rn. That being said he’s playing a position which doesn’t get much hype.
2020-12-06 00:21
W0xic is great, hes just always been so inconsistent. I actually like mezii so far even if his stats aren't amazing, hes still looked decent. I'd like to see Smooya brought in, I think he could help with their looser style
2020-12-06 00:24
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