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This operation is 10/10
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Russia VelsVivard 
I do like everything about it, the best operation on my mind, quite literally. The best thing is that you don't have to complete all the missions like previously, so no more crappy casual mode which I hate a lot. Premier matchmaking is great too, I like the priorities set up high there. Everything's great there. One of the best updates in general. What do you make out of it? It's absolutely worth its price, if it was double that I'd still buy it instantly.
2020-12-05 15:44
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#1
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Canada J47
haven't even played it yet, but good to hear!
2020-12-05 15:46
#2
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Lithuania SeNSeO
Thinking about buying it
2020-12-05 15:46
I like it, but retakes are too slow. The rest is good yeah
2020-12-05 15:47
22 replies
#4
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Russia VelsVivard
I forgot to mention it, I liked it as well. It was anything but slow, everything happens instantly there, no time wasted in waiting that goes forever. It's a nice feature too.
2020-12-05 15:48
15 replies
community retakes have been far far better imo. I like the side switching and the bomb defusing quicker.
2020-12-05 15:48
14 replies
#6
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Russia VelsVivard
I never played those but I've got nothing to complain about yet.
2020-12-05 15:49
7 replies
you should try them. You will understand how unpolished these retakes are
2020-12-05 15:53
6 replies
#46
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Finland JooonsMO
IMO Valve retakes are better than community ones. Now that round restart delay is changed 7->5 I have almost nothing to complain.
2020-12-06 01:18
3 replies
only thing I dislike is no side siwtching and the whole bomb defusal
2020-12-06 01:18
2 replies
+no auto defuse
2020-12-06 01:27
1 reply
yeah the whole bomb defuse animation + I am poor no good skins):
2020-12-06 01:42
its great except the skins, low lvl players and diffuse time
2020-12-06 15:03
1 reply
yeah basically my points. low lvl part doesnt matter too much with me if it were just very fast
2020-12-06 15:10
#26
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Germany Effizienz
+1
2020-12-05 16:50
#62
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United States ShawnM
yeah community retakes are just so much better, 0 reason to use the valve ones unless it's' for missions
2020-12-06 01:45
4 replies
What annoys me about community servers are the loads of unnecessary shit your game has to download before joining. This one time I joined and there was Super Mario music playing for some reason. I don't think I've ever found a clean retake server.
2020-12-06 03:07
3 replies
#71
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United States ShawnM
idk what servers ur on then, i never have any problems
2020-12-06 03:11
Brutalcs retakes and brutalcs dm are 1000x times better than valve ones and they have absolutely nothing unnecessary
2020-12-06 03:11
1 reply
Didn't know they had Retakes. I'll try them out thanks.
2020-12-06 14:52
Retakes are very fast in comparison to other retake servers. What only pisses me off is the insanely long round end time, that serves no purpose at all and that you have to defuse all the way through even if everybody is dead.
2020-12-06 14:56
5 replies
yeah I stay in community retakes until they polish it (the thing is they literally have like 1,000 servers to copy and still do a sub par job I just dont get it)
2020-12-06 15:10
4 replies
I played yesterday with a friend of mine, it was actually really fun cause their were only utter noobs on the server and I went like 20-1. Proper retake servers have way better players. Also I feel like despite the mode being only out for like 3 days, the servers were already really empty.
2020-12-06 15:12
3 replies
other than casual and deathmatch its just always hard to find games. unless its an operation mission. This is what happens when you release unpolished garbage that has alternatives that are just better + community stuff takes only like 10s to find unlike the lovely wait times there.
2020-12-06 15:13
2 replies
I think it is Valves attempt at killing community servers. Introducing 1v1 arenas in warmup. Introducing retake servers, not having updated the community server tab since game release etc.
2020-12-06 15:16
1 reply
1v1 arena arent too great tbh sometimes I just wait like 5-15s for a new one. The new gamemodes is I think Valve trying to implement for the casual audience that probably dont know community servers exist (aint that easy to get to if you dont know what you are doing). I dont think they are trying to kill them, but they have just forgotten about it lmao.
2020-12-06 15:18
idc about skins and shit, just a fact that valve still cares about cs is making me happy
2020-12-05 15:50
I think price is fair, I like multiple of the skins, I like the store (better than last time) but I don't like that half of the missions u have to play with friends or already have bought the pass to play, this means u kind of have to play stupid missions to get 10/10 stars every week (I had to play danger zone which I think is crap) but otherwise ye for sure better than last time also star system seems better / less complicated in general and I think ancient fun map h3h3h3 and Engage map is fun
2020-12-05 15:55
7 replies
I mean you only need like 100 stars to get the diamond pass so doesnt matter too much
2020-12-05 16:04
1 reply
oh ye it's not a problem but I like having fun with the missions and not forced to play with friends or play missions in danger zone which I don't like
2020-12-05 16:14
nt h3h3
2020-12-05 16:08
#29
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Nepal Aguminok
u could get 10 stars without danger zone or playing with friends
2020-12-05 17:06
3 replies
ye if u have the pass
2020-12-05 20:07
2 replies
#60
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Germany FAN_BIG
Whats the point farming stars without the pass? You cant use them anyway, right?
2020-12-06 01:37
1 reply
You can farm 100 stars without buying the pass, then if u buy the pass after u get the 100 stars u can spend the 100 stars in the store. At least that's how I understand it, just like last operation.
2020-12-06 01:50
It like it too, + already got 6 euros back, so no regrets
2020-12-05 16:01
#13
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Finland fakinbitch
i wish it had more community maps
2020-12-05 16:10
Agree its very nice
2020-12-05 16:15
1 reply
nah
2020-12-06 14:59
They really did a good Job
2020-12-05 16:15
1 reply
yeh
2020-12-06 14:59
#17
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Ireland Sodaking
yea i am loving this Operation so far as well only thing i want to see is more Phoenix Missions not like last Operation where we literally had 1 in the first week and the final one in the last week anyway regardless going good so far can't wait for week2
2020-12-05 16:16
10 replies
#18
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Russia VelsVivard
What a deal it would be if we had one per week, too much to ask for though I suppose. But imagine how happy we would be, those who really care about it and wants to get the most fun out of it.
2020-12-05 16:40
9 replies
+1
2020-12-05 16:42
#37
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Ireland Sodaking
ah yea but i hope at least we get more then the 2 we got last Operation but as you said probably too ambitious
2020-12-06 01:12
7 replies
#39
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Russia VelsVivard
At least 6 would make it for me, but two is a bit too little for sure.
2020-12-06 01:15
6 replies
#42
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Ireland Sodaking
yea that would be nice now the one thing that i think points to being more then 1 CO Op mission is last Operation by the first mission we knew who the main bad guy was his name was Franz Kriegeld and he was assassinated in the final mission this time however we don't know who the main villain is
2020-12-06 01:17
5 replies
#49
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Russia VelsVivard
Or it's been one time affair without any villains at all? Hopefully not though, they had all the time in the world to build a proper storyline even.
2020-12-06 01:20
4 replies
#51
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Ireland Sodaking
i mean it would be weird without a Main Villain and we are only just beginning to discover what the Phoenix Squadron are planning
2020-12-06 01:20
3 replies
#53
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Russia VelsVivard
What ever will be, I already claim this one to be the best there ever was just by a sole fact that you can pick the missions and exclude modes you hate and still get Diamond in the end.
2020-12-06 01:23
2 replies
#55
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Ireland Sodaking
yea but still gotta grind it all out manz gl in your OP btw my friend is going for 3 Straight Diamonds Hydra , Shattered Web , Broken Fang the dude sure is a Veteran
2020-12-06 01:26
1 reply
#57
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Russia VelsVivard
This time the grind is kind of enjoyable when you won't be getting upset playing the modes you dislike! Good luck to you and your buddy too. I kept a good streak, Bloodhound Gold, Wildfire Gold, Hydra Diamond but I only took Gold last time, damn that crappy casual.
2020-12-06 01:28
+1
2020-12-05 16:42
#21
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Finland 0lter
Trash Stop making gay ass operations and add 128 tick, add MM statistics etc and add more ranks
2020-12-05 16:44
4 replies
#22
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Russia VelsVivard
Nobody forces you to play it. I'm so glad and loving this update dearly. Couldn't care less about ticks or anything else. Try community servers little fellow.
2020-12-05 16:45
sweaty tryhard wannabe pro spotted xaxaxaxax
2020-12-06 01:17
1 reply
#67
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Finland 0lter
??? Id just rather not have to use faceit etc to get good games
2020-12-06 02:46
mm statistics got added for operation pass holders, wdym?
2020-12-06 01:54
#23
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Europe Nuskel
I feel like I wouldn't get anything good out of it, so not worth buying.
2020-12-05 16:46
2 replies
#24
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Russia VelsVivard
If you have friends you're already wrong. And even if not, it's got a lot to offer, instead of just aimlessly wandering and playing the same pattern, you'd have missions and tasks to accomplish. With the juicy rewards, much better when you have objectives and a lot of other players doing the same mission, feeling like a part of the living trend.
2020-12-05 16:49
1 reply
#25
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Europe Nuskel
I don't think there's anyone I know who's buying it. I don't want to invest time in it anyway, it's fine.
2020-12-05 16:49
+1 my men Think they did a great job. And its only been 3 days out, it will be tweaked and improved so much now. They are definitely on the right path the Valve devs. Now we wait. Cuz i think there is more to come. its not even the final form.. I think there might be some kind of survival mode..
2020-12-05 16:51
#28
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Nepal Aguminok
still 64 tick xxaxaxa
2020-12-05 17:05
#30
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Wait, are you saying that one doesn't need to complete all the available options in order to get a Diamond coin at the end, like last year?
2020-12-05 17:11
7 replies
#33
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Russia VelsVivard
Yes, the biggest advancement it is, this time you need to get stars, not missions completed. So you won't have to play the modes you dislike, like I hate casual so much...
2020-12-06 00:55
6 replies
#36
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Lebanon Dogman69
what missions do you nejoy
2020-12-06 01:09
4 replies
#38
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Russia VelsVivard
Operation's Premier matchmaking is very nice and common matchmaking too. Retakes were a pleasant surprise. Of course Guardian and Phoenix missions. Anything but that hateful casual, and for you?
2020-12-06 01:13
3 replies
#40
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Lebanon Dogman69
casual is fun, you don't have to think
2020-12-06 01:15
2 replies
#44
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Russia VelsVivard
Too many people, they always choose the same map. If you die in a close fight, you'll have to wait for them to finish malding how long it takes. If the match ended too soon and you didn't make it in time, just one kill left, you must go through this hell again. It takes so long but it's not exciting at all, rounds drag for hours and if you don't camp or bait you'll die quickly.
2020-12-06 01:21
+1
2020-12-06 01:18
#78
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Ah that's great , really great! I like the changes they have made with the operation this time around including this stars progressing the coin change which saves a lot of time and effort from grinding the DZ missions especially (fps problem) and even splitting the missions into half and rewarding accordingly, gonna have to get that coin after all.
2020-12-06 13:03
But i think shattered web better than broken fang
2020-12-05 17:11
1 reply
#34
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Russia VelsVivard
In what way chap?
2020-12-06 00:55
#35
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Lebanon Dogman69
update so good that Valve send me an email reminder 3 days later that new update is released
2020-12-06 01:07
1 reply
#41
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Russia VelsVivard
Had no idea they sent emails, or do you mean Steam notifications?
2020-12-06 01:15
0/8
2020-12-06 01:18
Ill only open the awp fade case with my stars, should get exactly 40 chances.
2020-12-06 01:20
#52
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Portugal skiLfuI
wait you dont need to do all the mission to get diamond coin? where did you see this?
2020-12-06 01:23
3 replies
#54
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Russia VelsVivard
In the coin shop, they made it better this time.
2020-12-06 01:23
#81
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United States Bioax
yeah, it goes by stars now. in theory, you could complete all the missions for the first week, which would be 17 stars in total. however, only 10 stars will count to your balance/coin. not sure how many available stars will be open next week.
2020-12-06 14:55
1 reply
#86
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Lebanon Dogman69
6 star next week
2020-12-06 15:04
It says operation stats but they better not remove that. I rlly like looking at my stats so being Able to keep seeing all time stats would be great
2020-12-06 01:28
1 reply
#59
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Russia VelsVivard
Yes, hoping for this too. Loving these detailed stats, always wanted it and drooled at Dota's.
2020-12-06 01:30
10/10 is weird, use 8/8
2020-12-06 01:52
1 reply
#65
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Russia VelsVivard
I'm not a baiter.
2020-12-06 01:53
Shit operation, I bought 100 stars and got trash
2020-12-06 02:49
1 reply
#69
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Russia VelsVivard
Well, you acted dumb. What's the point of buying stars and taking away the joy of earning them fairly and see what you get for the grind? Like hitting a Birthday cake day before the celebration. And drops is the least important feature of it... You completely missed out.
2020-12-06 03:04
#73
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Australia opzy
I've already made $11.50 in my currency from condom head and the pass cost me $20, so I think I'm actually going to profit haha
2020-12-06 03:13
1 reply
#75
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Russia VelsVivard
If that's what's concerning you, go for it! Don't get all the nagging about the price, I'm not good at maths but even I can tell that if you put time and effort into it, you'll end up in plus to what you spent on it. And it has so many good things about it beside that.
2020-12-06 03:30
previous phoenix base quests were much better
2020-12-06 03:28
2 replies
#76
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Russia VelsVivard
Didn't play it yet, but how can you judge on the first week of the operation? It might grow and we may actually have more of those than just one at the start and one in the final.
2020-12-06 03:31
1 reply
hope so
2020-12-06 04:03
#79
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Russia SW@G_2
I think so too - so many new features and maps. But hltv brains will make threads about how shit anything is so can't appeal to everyone I guess
2020-12-06 13:20
1 reply
#94
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Russia VelsVivard
Yeah, really loving it. Especially the operation premier matchmaking!
2020-12-06 16:08
Cool story bro.
2020-12-06 15:12
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