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top 5 igls rn
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Russia BETTOR_FROM_HEAVEN 
1 - gla1ve 2 - cadian 3 - apex 4 - alexib 5 - jame/blamef
2020-12-07 13:11
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#1
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Jordan Zereeni
jame and blamef dont deserve to be in top 10 >jame: puggy strats and baits his teammates >blamef: defaults and baits his teammates
2020-12-07 13:17
21 replies
there's a difference between s1mple's and blamef's baits s1mple baits to statpad blamef "baits" to get shit done and to be able to make good mid-round calls based on the information he gets from lurking (yes if you haven't noticed he's always in the backlines just as get right was back in the day but nobody called him a baiter and he wasn't even an igl) but expected from g2 fan with no igl
2020-12-07 14:47
12 replies
de_stroyed
2020-12-07 15:18
4 replies
dude legit just changed his flair LMAOOOOOO
2020-12-07 21:32
3 replies
AHAHAHAHHAHA
2020-12-07 21:33
imgur.com/a/lcweapX oof, what a baiter, most opening kills as well on last event
2020-12-08 13:02
1 reply
nt
2020-12-08 13:04
S1mple don't bait. His team baits for him cuz they are bots. De_stroyed Don't dare to compare CS GOAT with BICEPS GOAT.
2020-12-08 13:43
5 replies
how old are you? Everyone knows who BICEPS GOAT is it is pashabiceppsssss
2020-12-08 13:52
4 replies
BlameF is 15 cm bigger
2020-12-08 13:55
2 replies
steroids
2020-12-08 14:06
1 reply
this applies to pasha more lmao
2020-12-08 14:21
#138
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Ukraine NiP_sux
it is daddy loba
2020-12-08 14:09
de_stroyed
2020-12-09 13:36
jame has insane calls, vp have some good late round fakes, and they feel the rotations and can stack needed site
2020-12-07 21:34
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#188
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Serbia e_loK
"feel" the rotations
2020-12-09 07:11
Everythinng vhecks out fuck im too drnk
2020-12-09 07:35
how calls can be insane... "One short!!" "sheesh bro that was insane call"
2020-12-09 13:38
Jame is a cluth minister. He had so many 1v3s in flashpoint
2020-12-08 00:53
if you think BlameF doesnt calls strats you are delusional... go and watch Gla1ve talk about him a few weeks ago
2020-12-08 01:05
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2020-12-10 11:17
#175
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Europe ScreeNyy
blameF baits? Lol he carries everytime, making opportunities for teammates...
2020-12-08 20:19
Apex lmao
2020-12-07 13:14
35 replies
#3
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Jordan Zereeni
consistently reaching finals where is the problem?
2020-12-07 13:15
31 replies
The Zywoo go kill strat. And probably kioshima.
2020-12-07 13:16
13 replies
kioshima ?
2020-12-07 13:21
2 replies
#79
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Lithuania disesion
>where is the problem >kioshima get it
2020-12-08 00:45
1 reply
ahhhhhhhhh
2020-12-08 01:06
the "zywoo team" excuse worked under alex's IGL, it's way more balanced now Not as disbalanced as navi
2020-12-07 13:29
8 replies
yes when dude constantly has to pull off 1v3s it really comes down to apex's calling stop being fucking stupid ofc zywoo is the reason they're winning there's no structure in that team
2020-12-07 14:48
7 replies
When apEx first took over Vitality they were dogshit, now they're a top 3 team in the world. apEx is a top 5 IGL for sure.
2020-12-07 15:00
4 replies
nah
2020-12-07 15:06
3 replies
Annnnd you ran out of arguments that quick. You're not supposed to take battles you know youll lose. Its a basic rule.
2020-12-08 12:59
2 replies
lmao
2020-12-08 20:18
1 reply
lmao ^^^
2020-12-09 01:47
i don't think this applies to Vitality anymore. if you look at the tournament they won, yes zywoo was the top fragger most of the time but he was usually not carrying hard. not as hard as s1mple does for Na'Vi or Niko does for G2. when did zywoo "constantly" have to pull off 1v3s? do you have official stats for his 1vX clutches? if you're just thinking of them from your mind, i can think of Apex and RPK clutch plays too. Apex has integrated Zywoo into the team whether people want to believe it or not. Zywoo was never the only reason they were winning this year. RPK's form as an anchor recently has been a huge part of their success as well as performances from Shox and Apex himself. Not to mention super sub Nivera. I think it's unfair to say that they have no structure in that team when they were the first team to successfully utilize a 6th man, subbing in Nivera for certain maps and making the most of it. they have been playing well balanced counterstrike instead of relying heavily on one player and having the team bait for him like NaVi
2020-12-07 15:15
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#120
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France Insidium
I definitely agree
2020-12-08 13:11
Thats why RPK and Shox are playing much more consistently AND hes able to integrate and lead a 6 man roster right?
2020-12-07 13:32
lol then Boombl4 deserves to be in this list
2020-12-07 13:34
16 replies
Apex doesn’t blow multiple 2-0 leads in grand finals in one year though
2020-12-07 13:37
15 replies
apex choked 4 grand finals this year.....
2020-12-07 13:46
14 replies
Lmaoo he shouldn’t have talked
2020-12-07 14:41
10 replies
You have no arguments lmao
2020-12-09 01:48
9 replies
Arguments to what? Boombl4 reaches finals consistently
2020-12-09 01:58
8 replies
Apex reaches finals more consistently so by that logic is a better IGL. Lmao is the way you rate IGLS? Who gets to more finals? Not who calls better? Not which team has better teamplay and strategy? Thats quite moronic
2020-12-09 13:29
7 replies
Man what the fuck is wrong with you?? I was calling out a guy for rating igl this way
2020-12-09 14:09
5 replies
Yawn its not me its ur tier 3 English
2020-12-09 14:22
4 replies
Or its just you not checking the original comment before talking
2020-12-09 15:25
3 replies
0/8 work on your English stop blaming others
2020-12-10 10:55
2 replies
0/8 read the whole conversation stop blaming others
2020-12-10 11:32
1 reply
Didnt read keep crying loser
2020-12-11 01:30
Check #3.i replied to him originally
2020-12-09 14:10
#52
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Denmark KingDevice
ouch
2020-12-07 14:54
1 reply
yawn braindead bandwagoner
2020-12-09 13:30
And by basic logic has been to way more finals than Navi. You realize choking in the final is better than choking in quarters/semis right?
2020-12-09 01:48
he is doing a great job wdym
2020-12-07 13:15
#14
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Greece Ploutonas
Delusional NA null brain
2020-12-07 13:19
I'm sure Apex is doing good as IGL but without Zywoo as the fifth, Vitality would be maybe rank 5, 6 at best.
2020-12-08 01:09
isnt there like a duplicate exact thread on top 5 igls
2020-12-07 13:15
#6
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Hungary vori981118
1.gla1ve 2.apex 3.cadian 4.aleksib 5.karrigan
2020-12-07 13:15
19 replies
#15
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Jordan Zereeni
actually a good list
2020-12-07 13:19
i fucked up, i forgot about godigan
2020-12-07 13:19
1 reply
#42
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Philippines batstew
he hasnt been great this year, but really been showing up over the past month, not surprised u forgot
2020-12-07 14:48
#17
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France Rieppp
Good list !
2020-12-07 13:21
this
2020-12-07 13:40
can yall stop overrating aleksib
2020-12-07 14:49
4 replies
#91
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Finland Khroni
Can yall stop overrating blamef
2020-12-08 01:13
2 replies
he's fairly rated
2020-12-08 02:59
1 reply
#108
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Finland Khroni
as a player yes as an igl probably not he is leading a team with amazing individual players except RUSH yet somehow every single game they play seems dragged out and close, such as v ENCE who are completely shit now hes also supposed to put in insane work on demos and tactics they should be crushing everyone not struggling to win a map dominantly
2020-12-08 12:56
aleksib probably the biggest fraud igl in the scene
2020-12-08 03:03
gla1ve can hardly be considered top 5 IGL when he hadn't been the IGL for months, he literally just started to be the IGL again, all of Astralis' past achievements were with Magisk as an IGL. Don't get me wrong, gla1ve is the greatest IGL of all time and no doubt within 6 months time will once again be a top 3 IGL (Possibly Number 1), but right now he cannot be considered a top 5 IGL.
2020-12-07 15:02
8 replies
he alr just won a big tournament in Dreamhack Winter from being sent in the losers bracket and then taking over and absolutely looking dominant against any team in their way
2020-12-08 01:15
7 replies
As they should vs 0 other top 5 teams. In recent history vs other top 5 teams theyve been outcalled
2020-12-08 12:52
4 replies
magisk IGL, gla1ve takes over and they drop 1 map after their initial loss to GODSENT, pretty impressive performance i'm not going to lie considering they only dropped 1 map over 5 series(Liquid, G2, FURIA, Gambit, and mouz)
2020-12-08 20:13
3 replies
Meanwhile Vitality is doing the same thing to top 5 teams
2020-12-09 01:45
2 replies
and i'm not contesting that apEX is a better IGL, i'm saying that gla1ve is a top 5 IGL for sure
2020-12-09 03:13
1 reply
Certainly and one of the GOATs, not just IGLs but players in general. I just think hes overrated specifically in 2020
2020-12-09 13:26
A tournament without vitality, Navi big og... Not a A-TIER event no matter what others said.
2020-12-08 13:45
1 reply
sure the tourney wasn't the top of the top, but it was a respectable tournament and an A-tier event, contenders like G2, a resurging mouz, FURIA, and Heroic, also check #171, it's not the fact that they won the event that's impressive, it's the fact that they won the event only dropping 1 map after the first series
2020-12-08 20:14
1. arT 2. KNG 3. gla1ve 4. karrigan 5. tabsen
2020-12-07 13:16
2 replies
#208
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Finland Glibsu
KNG good igl but there is better igl like aleksib, apex, golden, hampus etc +1 KNG fucking beast with ak and awp.
2020-12-09 13:43
How is arT first in your list and Aleksib is not there at all?
2020-12-10 11:38
1. hampus. 2. apEX. 3. karrigan. 4. Magisk. 5. gla1ve.
2020-12-07 13:17
3 replies
Wtf how is magisk > gla1ve Are you drunk men
2020-12-08 00:55
1 reply
+1
2020-12-08 17:11
+1
2020-12-08 14:52
Shit list mine is better
2020-12-07 13:17
#12
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North America z1ppem
gla1ve, boombl4, apex, blamef, golden
2020-12-07 13:17
3 replies
boombl4 has two top 5 players and one of the top IGLs from the scene as a coach and Navi still struggles with consistency. No way hes above cadian, aleksib, art
2020-12-07 13:34
2 replies
#38
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North America z1ppem
I mean I would put him above art easily, but the above list is in no real order and cadian and aleksib are around the same level as boombl4, and I'm not going to dock too many points for struggling with consistency online
2020-12-07 14:23
1 reply
How is he above art when he has way more talent on the team and a better more established coached behind him and less impact and essentially equivalent results. The only better results being when s1mple goes absolutely nuclear. Theres nothing special about their tactics pretty much always playing around s1mple and their teamplay is extremely suspect at time. If you're not gonna "dock points" for their performance in online matches in an online era then how can you give him points for online matches? Thats incredibly biased.
2020-12-08 00:42
1. blamef 2. karrigan 3. glaive 4. apex 5. cadian
2020-12-07 13:17
1. NiKo 2. blameF 3. tabseN 4. arT 5. hampus
2020-12-07 13:30
6 replies
#21
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Estonia |imperator
0/8 stopped at niko
2020-12-07 13:31
5 replies
#54
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Czech Republic JameS_19
NiKo is actually really good and really underrated IGL...
2020-12-07 14:58
4 replies
I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or not
2020-12-08 01:09
The thread is "top 5 IGLs rn" and niko isn't even an IGL rn
2020-12-08 17:12
2 replies
#167
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Yes, but mr. Mad_bettor posted his list here, and mr. imperator replied about NiKo, so I replied to him. I don't care about thread, I just replied to shit that someone posted...
2020-12-08 17:15
1 reply
First time seen an HLTV user using "Mr." lol. You seem like a nice person mate, I'm not gonna argue with ya. Have a good day
2020-12-08 17:22
#25
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Canada Botspector
karrigan has to be on the list of top 5, and definitely ahead of cadian, apex, hampus, blamef, jame, tabsen, boombl4. It's absurd to put those ahead of him based on a few months of online CS, none of those players have ever done anything.
2020-12-07 13:35
2 replies
Tabsen lead the first full German team to top 1 in history of csgo. Tabsen GOAT German IGL.
2020-12-08 13:48
1 reply
onlinetares isn't german but he does speak german and other than that they're 4 germans so I see your point but still not true.
2020-12-08 16:57
-Jame/BaitF +Nexa
2020-12-07 13:35
gla1ve karrigan apEX arT cadiaN
2020-12-07 13:35
#30
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Brazil NegoNey
this guy puts apex but forgot about arT hahaha
2020-12-07 13:38
Apex lmao, he's not the reason why vitality is good. You just put him there because of vitality is good not because he is good igl
2020-12-07 13:41
9 replies
so Vitality ranked #1 but the igl is not good? Typical american, i bet you voted Trump...
2020-12-07 13:47
8 replies
Delusional bagguete
2020-12-07 14:26
#47
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Japan Peine
And people wonder why NA scene got no igls lol They all want to be a "star" and underrate the igl role
2020-12-07 14:49
4 replies
yes zywoo's 1.49 impact is just one small piece of the puzzle and it's the holy almighty apex who has to be praised for his godlike calling abilites stop being dumb and accept that vitality is only relevant because of shox and zywoo (+ nivera now)
2020-12-07 14:53
3 replies
#53
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Japan Peine
Expected from SA
2020-12-07 14:55
1 reply
what would asia now about cs when all you have is nobrainer games like league
2020-12-07 15:05
Its almost like Shox was playing significantly worse under Alex's leadership. Its almost like Apex is the one directing Nivera and doing almost all of his calling as he adapts to tier 1. But thats obviously way too complex for you to understand.
2020-12-08 12:55
#69
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Lebanon Dogman69
vitality was top 3 with nbk with alex with apex go figure
2020-12-07 15:16
1 reply
Top 3 with Alex but never undisputed top 1. And you say that as if Alex is a poor IGL, Alex was a top 3 IGL during mid-late last year
2020-12-08 12:57
Cadian lmao
2020-12-07 13:44
How do you rank them? By their team's success? By their mechanical skill? By their calling ability (in vast majority of teams IGL are not calling solo)?
2020-12-07 13:45
Do remember - Astralis won several events with Magisk as IGL
2020-12-07 13:56
4 replies
#70
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Lebanon Dogman69
astralis could win events with my pet hamster being igl
2020-12-07 15:17
3 replies
Exactly my point, how good are Gla1ve really?
2020-12-07 16:17
1 reply
We don't know cuz he had no success in other teams. Unlike karrigan KARRIGAN DANISH GOAT IGL
2020-12-08 13:50
#114
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Finland kalza1
LMAO
2020-12-08 13:02
#41
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Canada Unravel
Good list, Id put art in there but we should probably wait to see more of furia in eu
2020-12-07 14:44
Gla1ve - Best of all time. far ahead of all others. Karrigan - Been top for so long, always taken the team to the top over and over, unfold players talent. Its unfair and a shame he gets so much hate and memes, because he is really good as IGL and the sport, and he improves. 3 -4 - Cadian and BlameF, both can be 3 or 4. just stepped up. improved, put in a ton of work, really putting focus on to strats and learning the enemy. 5 would be ApEX I think
2020-12-07 14:50
9 replies
What makes gla1ve far ahead of Cadian and Apex right now? Gla1ve has more talent to work with than both other IGLs as he has 3 potential top 10 players and the most established coach and yet has weaker results than Vitality and similar results to heroic. He is the best overall if you compare their careers but he is not the undisputed best in 2020. He even gave up IGLing for a few months because it wasnt working
2020-12-08 00:46
5 replies
Well he is just the best IGL to ever touch the game. that dont go away, so right now no other IGL is as good as him, despite Astralis is not as good as they have been. And what players he has to work with does not take the fact away that he is the best IGL of all time. And one could also say many often call the Astralis players out for not being the best aimers and the best this and that. Astralis had a wierd time, new players coming in, old ones taken a break, going back and forth. yet still finding ways to improve the game as they done the last two years with using this to make an active 6 man roster. something cs really needs for the future. He has been on a break, working with a player coming back from a break. and an active 6 member coming in for some matches making it work very well. So gaming chaning stuff while dealing with changes that makes other teams collapse, but Astralis have kept being up there even when he was gone, and him then coming back doing his thing. This shows class. this is a part of what makes him ahead of everyone else. And if you have a player that is just plainly the best IGL of all time. then even if he is just back from a break he is still that IGL so even if you want the best IGL right now. well if he is the best overall, he is also the best right now. Having gone through 3 different players ( plus the normal 5 group ) back and forth and still making it work with relative succes is insane. most teams fall apart after just one change and have to rebuild. People call Astralis out for not having been top of the game and so on compared to what Astralis is. But the fact is, they have handled something bad really well and even used it to once again improve how cs should be played and work, without falling apart as many teams do with just half the changes they had to deal with. And Gla1ve have not lead through all of that no. but he has still been there. and he is leading now. Gla1ve just above the rest.
2020-12-08 01:01
4 replies
Being the best of all time does not mean hes the best right now at leading just means he has the best career comparatively, thats a form of bias. CURRENTLY there are IGLS that are making better calls and gameplans than Gla1ve therefore he isnt the best. Anyone who calls Astralis out for not having individual talent is literally trolling man for man theyre one of the best rosters in the world. They have one of the few superstars, a top 5 rifler, and one of the best entries/supports. Theyre fucking STACKED using that as an argument is complete bullshit and you know it. Being on a break is a mark against him, not for him. Cant be the best if you arent even actively leading. Apex leading is much more impressive actually properly implementing the 6 man roster. Vitality literally lost their IGL if you wanna talk about team breaking things and Apex stepped up and lead them to the undisputed top 1. Thats a top 1 IGL. Your name is facts only but all you typed was biased bs about gla1ve. Hes not the best hasnt even been leading all year and for the amount of talent hes working with Astralis SHOULD be a top 3 team. Achieving the minimum of what the team is capable of isnt impressive. Astralis by and large should be top 4 at every event. The fact that they werent if anything shows a lack of leadership and consistency.
2020-12-08 12:46
3 replies
From what I have seen since Gla1ves comeback his calls have been insane. However this is not something that anyone can call out as truth or facts. its personal choice. So you can have yours and I mine. Gla1ve has proven to be the best IGL ever, and that he still got it and is at the top of his game, meaning he is the best because there are no other at his top level.
2020-12-08 13:05
2 replies
And I am never biased to anything.. just because I dont agree with you dont mean im biased, just as you are not biased as a french wanting Apex to be the best. or at least you dont have to be biased it could be... But it could also just be what you think.
2020-12-08 13:06
No he was the best IGL when they were consistently winning every tournament and undisputed top 1 that is no longer the case
2020-12-09 01:44
Happy GOAT IGL Why? Because he lead a toxic scene to two major wins. He was literally a savior for a whole nation and ended like a savior... Betrayed and backstabbed as jesus. It is easy to lead a team that is on the same page.
2020-12-08 13:53
2 replies
Maybe they are on the same page because of good leadership overall what choices they make as a team. There is a reason Astralis change the game again and again for the better. If it where easy, other teams would be able to find a stable way to run a team, few have for such a long time.
2020-12-08 14:46
1 reply
The main reason is that in many teams 1 or 2 player don't do everything for success. Imagine a team with the work ethic of S1mple but more in a strategy way then you have astralis.
2020-12-08 16:32
1. gla1ve 2. blamef 3. karrigan 4. alex 5. apex rest are irrelevant also all time top 1 is pronax
2020-12-07 14:51
Karrigan should really be in there somewhere
2020-12-07 14:51
#56
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Lebanon Dogman69
igl most over rated role
2020-12-07 15:01
8 replies
lol no fvcking way
2020-12-07 15:04
7 replies
#59
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Lebanon Dogman69
self organizing teams win not 1 man igl show teams
2020-12-07 15:05
6 replies
lol sure
2020-12-07 15:05
5 replies
#64
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Lebanon Dogman69
yeah fnatic and nip win major because godmode igl on these teams lol
2020-12-07 15:08
4 replies
bro, you're right, it doesn't make sense to have 1 igl, let's have 5 igls right
2020-12-07 15:08
3 replies
#66
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Lebanon Dogman69
keep nuthugging your pronax and gla1ve
2020-12-07 15:10
2 replies
lol triggered
2020-12-07 15:14
Keep nuthugging your 5IQ points dumbo
2020-12-08 12:54
#63
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Turkey 69kagan
1. gla1ve 2. Cadian 3. karrigan 4. ApeX 5. Aleksib
2020-12-07 15:06
5 replies
Tell me what Karrigan and gla1ve are doing better than Apex atm?
2020-12-08 12:48
4 replies
for example Karrigan>Apex Karrigan can lead teams better more experience as igl in t1 and can make young talented players shine like frozen and bymas
2020-12-08 14:24
3 replies
Misutaa and Nivera look just as good if not better than Frozen and Bymas. Karrigan may have a better career as an IGL but he is not a better IGL currently, there is a difference.
2020-12-09 01:45
2 replies
Misutaa and Nivera are just hard grinding not the point that Apex is good igl he just haves troops to say go kill and thats it.
2020-12-09 07:10
1 reply
Yeah sure bud it has nothing to do with the protocols or leadership, just pure aiming. Meanwhile theres many teams with better aimers than Vitality not playing as well. Nice braindead logic.
2020-12-09 13:28
Weird how you spelled "nexa"
2020-12-07 15:19
blamef is in top-5 rn
2020-12-07 15:20
1.hunden 2.ocean 3.hardstyle 4.solEk 5.frankie
2020-12-08 00:51
1 reply
add xizt on there
2020-12-08 01:10
Gla1ve>>>>>>>>> the rest are about the same level of trash
2020-12-08 01:07
2 replies
0/8 learn CS please. Stop following echochambers and use your brain
2020-12-08 12:49
1 reply
expected from FR fan
2020-12-08 16:35
Sexa???
2020-12-08 03:05
#96
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North America Lucid_
1. Gla1ve 2. AleksiB 3. ArT 4. Karrigan 5. Apex
2020-12-08 03:11
Deeper voice means better IGL look at Gla1ve
2020-12-08 03:13
G2 SEXA no.1 /closed
2020-12-08 03:18
1. s1mple 2. Boombl4
2020-12-08 12:49
1 reply
+1
2020-12-08 14:49
#110
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Germany _PH1L
glave cadian karigan aleksiB nexa
2020-12-08 12:59
glaive/apex/karrigan/aleksib cadian is hit and miss but taking away any of the above IGLs would change dramatically how each of those team play - just look at astralis w Magisk vs glaive calling - and magisk is not a bad caller either
2020-12-08 13:00
Apex Gla1ve Cadian Aleksib Boombitch
2020-12-08 13:07
1. Hampus 2. Rez 3. Nawwk 4. Plopski 5. Twist
2020-12-08 13:12
1 reply
#125
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Denmark aBox
hahahaah what is this man faroe island lol men
2020-12-08 13:13
#123
oskar | 
Denmark aBox
1.aBox 2.lobanjica 3.lobanjica 4.lobanjica 5.lobanjica
2020-12-08 13:13
1 reply
0/8
2020-12-08 13:36
If u mean at this moment, blameF/gla1ve/apex/nexa/jame
2020-12-08 13:13
aleksib AHHAHAHAHA nice bait
2020-12-08 13:45
Damn i read top girls and expected to see some baddies :(
2020-12-08 14:07
what about s1mple?
2020-12-08 14:49
alex > all
2020-12-08 16:33
ok
2020-12-08 16:41
#159
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Lithuania KruzeN
1. karrigan 2. karrigan 3. karrigan 4. karrigan 5. karrigan
2020-12-08 16:44
2 replies
#160
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Turkey Rheniel
6. karrigan
2020-12-08 16:45
1 reply
#170
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Lithuania KruzeN
7. karrigan
2020-12-08 17:27
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. BlameF 4. nexa 5. cadiaN
2020-12-08 17:26
TOP 1= FALLEN
2020-12-08 20:16
#176
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United States Breezy3K
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan(Interchangeable with cadiaN) 3. cadiaN (Interchangeable with karrigan) 4. arT 5. Aleksib Honorable Mentions: apEX (Strats are too revolved around ZyWoo, I get he is the star but it sets the others up for failure a lot) blameF (Smart guy, still needs to make his strats a little less puggy and needs to be rely on the coach less) ALEX (needs more time with C9 to prove he can be Top5 again)
2020-12-08 20:25
10 replies
It sets them up for failure when Rpk and Shox are having their best year in years and Misutaa and Nivera are some of the best up and coming talents in the scene? Not to mention theyre the most successful team this year, how is it set up for failure when theyre consistently at the top? In no way is anything that Karrigan, Aleksib, Art or gla1ve have done this year more impressive than Apex
2020-12-09 01:50
#185
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Turkey ocasy1903
The most reasonable comment
2020-12-09 02:03
8 replies
Having Apex below art aleksib and gla1ve this year is far from reasonable
2020-12-09 13:30
7 replies
#205
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Finland Glibsu
Apex is really good igl but he still got the number 1 or 2 player of the year so that drop his rating atleast on my eye..
2020-12-09 13:39
6 replies
Gla1ve has a top 5 player, karrigan has a top 5 player, Furia likely has multiple top 20 players. Thats just bias tbh
2020-12-09 14:21
5 replies
#214
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Turkey ocasy1903
apex has zywoo bro. its injustice xd. btw astralis cant play at this level without glaive
2020-12-09 14:35
1 reply
And Vitality would be completely different if Apex didn't step up and lead. Your point?
2020-12-10 12:16
#215
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Finland Glibsu
true that but OG , fnatic, nip, complex, c9 and big don't have top5 players and all of those teams have really good igl who can get their team play well without top 5 talent
2020-12-09 15:02
2 replies
I dont think i have seen enough from C9 to say that. OG has insane experience and NBK helps a lot. Fnatic and NiP are super inconsistent their main issue seems to be a lack of teamplay at times, they have plenty of talent. Complexity and to a smaller degree OG are the only teams you mention who's IGL actually makes them play significantly better than without
2020-12-10 10:59
1 reply
#221
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Finland Glibsu
+1 true shit about nip and fnatic and yea C9 have not been proven yet.
2020-12-10 11:01
kNg
2020-12-09 07:12
1. Happy 2. Xizt 3. TaZ 4. Karrigan 5. Zeus
2020-12-09 07:27
3 replies
#202
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Finland Glibsu
2015-17 ;:D
2020-12-09 13:38
2 replies
oops sorry i made this comment in 2016 lol, edited it now
2020-12-09 16:40
1 reply
#218
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Finland Glibsu
XD
2020-12-09 16:45
#194
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Austria Padrophil
1. AleksiB
2020-12-09 13:26
1. gla1ve 2. aleksib 3. blamef 4. karrigan 5. nexa
2020-12-09 13:35
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. art
2020-12-09 13:38
me
2020-12-09 13:39
golden
2020-12-09 13:40
Honestly apEX is a huge surprise to me
2020-12-09 13:43
apEX top2.
2020-12-09 14:15
Fragging or calling Fragging Calling Blamef Gla1ve nexa apEX Cadian KNg
2020-12-10 11:35
#228
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United States Fule
dexter dexter dexter dexter dexter
2020-12-11 01:32
EXTREMUM
1.71
Wisla Krakow
2.14
Sinners
1.45
Copenhagen Flames
2.68
Astralis
1.25
Evil Geniuses
3.82
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