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ZywOo #1 2020 confirmed
Faroe Islands Mortall 
ZywOo is #1 in all filters except Top 20, so now look here: ZywOo's rating is 1.28, s1mple 1.29, but there is one key thing - s1mple played 7 maps on charity tournament Gaming Without Borders with MR12 system, his rating on this tournament is 1.38, so if we remove these maps his rating would be 1.28 - same as ZywOo, and only team achievements will decide who is true #1, so here we go: ZywOo - 2 big wins and 4 big finals (1st BLAST Premier, 1st Beijing-Haidiian 2nd DH Open Fall 2020, 2nd ESL One Cologne 2020, 2nd cs_summit 6, 2nd BLAST Premier Spring Finals) s1mple: 1 big win and 2 big finals (1st IEM Katowice 2020, 1st WePlay Clutch Island (tier 3 tournament only with CIS teams), 2nd IEM Beijing-Haidian 2020, 2nd ESL Pro League S12, 2nd ICE Challenge 2020 (tier 2 tournament with Top 20-30 teams)
2020-12-20 17:09
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2020-12-20 17:10
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Canada firtlast
forsaken top 1 rest dont matter
2020-12-20 17:14
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+1 forsaken GOAT
2020-12-20 17:42
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Brazil Nicolito
+1
2020-12-20 17:16
+1
2020-12-20 17:40
Rpk top one wtf
2020-12-20 17:55
+1
2020-12-20 18:01
#2
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Hungary JokerPublic
DH Open Fall and cs_summit6 not big events... (Navi dont play in this events so it's not correct to use this events)
2020-12-20 17:13
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2020-12-20 17:13
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Ukraine McSwell
cs_summit had really strong teams like heretics, x6tence, moviestar riders, fate...
2020-12-20 17:16
Back during ICE challenge, Mousesports was 2nd, Navi - 8th, ENCE - 11th, Heroic -14th, Mad Lions - 16th, Virtus Pro - 17th, and so on. CS Summit is not a Tier1 event, neither is ICE Challenge, to be precise. In addition, the current RMR system was introduced in online era. It's not fair to consider one RMR and reject another, because unlike tournaments like Blast/ESL where NA/CIS teams can participate in EU, non-EU teams are literally not allowed to participate in EU RmR.
2020-12-20 17:33
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CS summit is indeed a tier1 event, just not an S tier event like EPL, Cologne or Dreamhack Masters.
2020-12-20 17:39
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United Kingdom Multiplism
So saying events like Road to Rio: CIS are not big events because Vitality or Astralis didn't play in it. DH Open Fall was more competitive then IEM CIS, and that is a fact.
2020-12-20 17:14
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Ukraine McSwell
No rmr events in any region were very competitive because of rmr points distribution and low prize pool. Teams could even afford to skip some of them or just finish in 3-5 place, but still easily make a major legend stage.
2020-12-20 17:23
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Finland _Top1
Nice coping mechanism p0mplul fangirl
2020-12-20 17:23
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United Kingdom Multiplism
I know that, but the guy says that DH Open Fall and cs_summit6 weren't big events, so using his logic I am implying that, I do agree with you. This is a BIG event for CIS Teams.
2020-12-20 17:25
ok this is the 4th zywoo vs s1mple thread i've seen today
2020-12-20 17:13
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Romania ukhcsgo
s1mple have no chance
2020-12-20 17:13
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stop sitting at hltv and go learn some 1st grade english please, that really hurts my eyes
2020-12-20 17:28
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Romania ukhcsgo
has no chance? i'm not worried to type the right sentence i'm just too tired of someone like you... By the way I'm always trying to improve my english and learning another languages, i'm sorry if you're perfect
2020-12-20 17:48
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I'm not perfect, but it is just really silly mistake
2020-12-20 17:49
dont worry about it, your english looks good
2020-12-20 17:52
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Romania ukhcsgo
tks man, you dont know how bad english classes are in Brazil... So since I was kid I have been trying to improve my english, not only english, spanish, italian and french... I get upset sometimes 'cause we always have to know how to speak english, but who come to visit brazil never try to speak our native portuguese and they think we're forced to speak english even if we are in Brazil... however I know that English is the "universal language" and everybody needs to learn it.
2020-12-20 18:16
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Yea I understand what you mean. It's good you are trying to improve your language skills and people who make fun of you for trying to speak other languages are losers.
2020-12-21 16:30
ZYWOO 1#
2020-12-20 17:14
Why would team achievements matter? They are...well...team achievements. If anything, being in a better team means you win more which means your rating gets better than if you were in a worse team.
2020-12-20 17:14
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Lol everyone knows that team achievements matter, if not - why Magisk is higher than electronic on the 2019 Top 20, or huNter did'nt even make it to the Top 20? hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01..
2020-12-20 17:18
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If this is about hltv top 1, sure. I thought this was about who was the better player throughout the year, hltv top 1 is massively flawed.
2020-12-20 17:21
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So sh1ro top3, degster, sterling, Alistair and JamYoung top10 ? Nice logic dude.
2020-12-20 17:35
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What does this have to do with my point? Obviously you have to consider the level of your opponents for the rating, I have no idea how you get from my point to your point.
2020-12-20 17:36
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Cause when you're in a good team, you go deeper in the tournament and play harder opponents. Exactly whats happening to Zywoo vs s1mple. It's easier to have good rating when you dont go to playoffs or end up top8 or top4 compared to Vitality that had to play and beat every team to end up winning or top2. Wich happend to Zywoo way more than s1mple. Also Zywoo dont have CIS inflated rating playing against noobs.
2020-12-20 17:38
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That is not what my comment was about tho. My comment was about team achievements(aka trophies) not mattering. And your point about CIS inflated rating, none of the CIS teams are in the top 20 of the world so they are not even included in the rating.
2020-12-20 17:40
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
because hunter has no big event mvp/evps
2020-12-20 18:19
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then why Brehze is #8 (1.13) and NiKo is #11 (1.16) in 2019? NiKo: 2 MVPs, 2 BLAST trophies Brehze: 1 MVP, 2 Big trophies
2020-12-20 18:30
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
hltv.y0fl0w.de/hltv_mvp_evp_2019#evps niko 2 big event mvp,1 big event evp brehze 1 big event mvp,1 major evp, 5 big event evp
2020-12-20 18:32
Damn its so close
2020-12-20 17:26
s1mple #1
2020-12-20 17:36
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nt Sam2k
2020-12-20 17:37
here we go, the 300th thread this month
2020-12-20 18:17
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Chile cristiaan
good work
2020-12-20 18:19
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