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Denmark 4vs0 
HLTV basically confirmed zywoo top 1 after Zvonimir "professeur" Burazin made the claim that NaVi's "lan" win at katowice will NOT be significantly more valuable than any other t1 online event. His point was that there was no option to switch to online (which any unbiased fan with eyes could see) so therefore navi do not get bonus points for winning the only big event of the year This destroys 2 of 3 arguments for s1mple 1. only big event win (argument destroyed) 2. only big event mvp (argument destroyed) 3. 0.01 higher rating filtered (farmed at charity event) while for zywoo 1. More team success, championships, finals, and playoffs 2. stuck in EU all year while navi got to smurf cis but somehow failed to dominate that weaker region 3. more team friendly playstyle 4. Basically same rating even tho s1mple inflated at charity event 5. If online events all gave mvps, zywoo would have more mvps 6. More success in head to head matchups Dont think a filtered 0.01 rating will make that difference up, and even less of a difference if u factor out the charity event where s1mple got like 1.4 or something
2020-12-23 12:34
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Austria Brandenburg
I'm still waiting for any betting site to open up bets on the top 20. Its free money every single year.
2020-12-23 12:36
18 replies
#2
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Denmark 4vs0
im not even entirely sure if they are gonna do a top 20 (unless they confirmed that) so that's why betting sites probably arent taking money rn because if they took bets then hltv announced they weren't doing top 20 that would be a mess
2020-12-23 12:37
15 replies
Striker confirmed they will do a Top 20. Only challenge is how they will rank NA players considering they didn't have enough maps vs top tier competition.
2020-12-23 12:45
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Poland seinterc
there are no NA players who deserve top20 this year
2020-12-23 13:39
13 replies
it really depends on how much those 5 events where we had NA and EU teams competing will weigh. yuurih and elige are the ones who can still make a good case to be in top 20 imo.
2020-12-23 14:10
#49
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Denmark 4vs0
idc who elige was playing against he proved in the events against europe that hes still a t1 talent and deserves a 10-20 spot
2020-12-23 14:24
11 replies
Yeah t1 talent with that 0.6 rating in grand final lmao. But expected from dan who wrote a ton of text just for someone who doesn’t even know you exist :)
2020-12-23 16:00
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remind me how well s1mple did in the 2 major grand finals he played in? 1 final doesn't mean everything also i never said elige was top 5 or anything, u can have bad matches and still be ranked 15-20
2020-12-23 16:00
9 replies
What the fuck does two bo3s that happened 2 and 4 years ago have to do with a bo5 happened less than 2 weeks ago where a so called star player choked ? Elige shouldnt be anywhere near to top15-20. He should be either top3 or not in the ranking just to make sure insecure eutards don’t start crying :)
2020-12-23 16:05
8 replies
what the fuck does 1 bad final have to do with a player ranked 15th-20th??????
2020-12-23 16:06
5 replies
Like everything ? Considered how fucked up this 2020 year was. This grand final meant a lot and he choked. Happens 🤷🏿‍♂️
2020-12-23 16:14
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right, and choking would disqualify him from top 3-5 not top 15-20
2020-12-23 16:14
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exactly, stop being fucking idiots elige deserved his position and has proved his worth more than enough times. Now get back to your little dark goblin hole where baiters come from and let the rest of us have civilized discussions you incel cuck
2021-01-21 02:20
2 replies
pretty sure u replied to the wrong person
2021-01-22 01:27
1 reply
yikes sorry haha!
2021-01-22 04:03
LMAO U dumb fucking idiot elige is one of the best riflers in the world and it doesnt even matter if he choked because he is still t1 talent and way better than most riflers in the eu
2020-12-23 21:59
how many times can a single person be wrong damn
2021-01-22 01:27
#261
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North America joeS
Would be the easiest money of my life. I doubt they would ever do this.
2021-01-20 03:02
1x has this
2021-01-20 18:07
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France Poloqua
u can really not tell who is first with statistics or accomplishement, they are so close in these that the rankings will be arbitrary imo
2020-12-23 12:38
8 replies
+1 it's not clear at this point who will be top1 of 2020, it's 50/50 situation and we can only guess.
2020-12-23 12:39
7 replies
True but zywoos fan are not delusional enough so we keep making fan of little maldpimples
2020-12-23 12:44
6 replies
All fans are apriori delusional, so I never take them seriously.
2020-12-23 12:52
5 replies
+1
2020-12-23 15:33
yes but delusion has degrees. And in camp of simple fanboys its rampant
2020-12-23 21:43
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Russia UM4R
shut up you are zywoo fan and youre not even from france stfu clown youre ashamed of where youre from loser
2021-01-20 12:17
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nt cuddleslut
2021-01-21 00:53
where are you now
2021-01-22 01:27
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Ukraine McSwell
More like danish fans malding, they can't forgive s1mple often been above ecolai despite "team achievements". For unbiased people it's clear top-1 is still unknown.
2020-12-23 12:46
19 replies
99% zywoo, 1% simple, but still unknown, yeah
2020-12-23 12:59
1 reply
+1
2020-12-23 14:05
probably 65 to 35 in favour of ZywOo but it was same story last year
2020-12-23 13:01
1 reply
+1
2020-12-23 14:05
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Brazil arunino
+1
2020-12-23 13:34
#65
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Denmark 4vs0
even after zywoo gets #1 fans like u are still gonna be on s1mples dick calling him the best player in the world this is basically as much proof as u can have that zywoo is top 1 yet u still think its a debate
2020-12-23 14:33
13 replies
even after s1mple gets #1 hating mentally challenged kids like u are still gonna be on onlinewh0 dick calling him the best player in the world this is basically as much proof as u can have that s1mple is top1 yet u still think its a debate. Sucks that 3covic3 is so irrelevant you started to dickride onlinewh0 lmao
2020-12-23 16:02
12 replies
anyone who dickrides flightreacts and is too scared to show his flag with a moe flair cannot call anyone else mentally challenged
2020-12-23 16:03
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anyone who has a danish flag and 3covic3 flair is automatically mentally challenged kid living in denial. Go play some handball, soft beta
2020-12-23 16:06
2 replies
lol
2020-12-23 17:38
LMAO
2021-01-22 01:28
#262
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North America joeS
commenting so I can come back tomorrow and collect your salty tears.
2021-01-20 03:04
1 reply
dont worry im doing it for u
2021-01-21 00:53
nt sam2k/s1mple CSGOD/cuddleslut maybe next year
2021-01-21 00:53
2 replies
>dan >top1 player Pick none
2021-01-21 09:32
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>s1mple >worse than zywoo pick two
2021-01-22 01:28
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North America joeS
I'm here now, to collect your salty tears.
2021-01-21 01:13
2 replies
I’m here now, to witness how no-life you are :)
2021-01-21 09:32
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#342
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North America joeS
At least I have a brain mens. You can't grow one in that empty space you call your head
2021-01-21 18:48
I mean its obvious that zywoo will take this first place. S1 2nd, device 3rd.
2020-12-23 12:44
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#50
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Denmark 4vs0
true
2020-12-23 14:25
any unbiased fan sees that zywoo is the best player on the planet overall. doesn't bait alot, creates space, etc. while for s1mple it's all about stats.
2020-12-23 12:56
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#51
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Denmark 4vs0
true
2020-12-23 14:25
+1
2021-01-20 02:50
i still dont get why u compare them??? zywoo obviously has a better team i wanna see the haters when s1mple has a team like zywoo
2020-12-23 12:58
67 replies
then he will not have stats 1.20+
2020-12-23 12:59
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Russia reguix
delete acc maybe?ur nick is irrelevant
2020-12-23 13:05
1 reply
not my fault
2020-12-23 13:14
Actually, it's the opposite. Working in a good team/place anywhere in life, boosts your motivation and brings out the best in you. Makes you more confident and natural, because you don't have to worry about what will happen, if you aren't there. He will have less kills in a better tram, but rating can still be the same or even more, since rating isn't just about kills.
2020-12-23 13:08
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Actually, it's the opposite. No team plays for one player like navi does. On the "better" team, he will turn into the average player above average, which he is
2020-12-23 13:19
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You didn't get the point. If it's a better team, they won't *need* to play around s1mple. That's the literal meaning of a *better team*, and that's exactly what's Vitality did. In a *better team* than last year, they have stopped playing around ZywOo, and made teamwork the priority. Now look how good and confident all the players have become, even the youngest ones. It hasn't affected anybody's performance in any bad way. Rather, they've all improved, both rating-wise and achievement-wise
2020-12-23 13:33
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In 2019 vitality was completely dependent on zywoo, but he was still a more team player than simple any year in navi.
2020-12-23 13:32
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So? I kinda agree with this, but that's besides the original point. s1mple once mentioned in an interview, that since his skills are trusted more than his teammates, his job is to trade effectively and clutch if required. He can't be the one to go first and risk dying, if his team isn't good enough to close out the rounds. This lack of confidence on team, doesn't arise in a better team, because you know there are great players who can do the remaining job. I don't like this current situation with Navi, but there's a defined reason behind it. That's what I was trying to explain.
2020-12-23 13:51
ahahhaaha vitality plays for zywoo more than navi plays for s1mple
2020-12-23 13:42
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Vitality used to, till last year. Not anymore.
2020-12-23 13:52
36 replies
yeah, and check stats of zywoo`s teammates(1.00 rating XD)
2020-12-23 14:27
35 replies
#59
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Denmark 4vs0
because they are too busy flashing and baiting for s1mple to focus on their own game
2020-12-23 14:28
34 replies
what? zywoo has so good stats cuz his teammates cant kill(so u steal their kills)
2020-12-23 14:28
33 replies
#62
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Denmark 4vs0
no, because anyone with eyes can see that zywoo (at least this year) no longer requires his teammates to constantly drop him awps, flash for him, and do everything to set him up obviously his teammates still do it from time to time but it isn't a thing that happens so often that his teammates performances will be hindered
2020-12-23 14:29
32 replies
Ikr lol. Last year when Alex explicitly mentioned in an interview, "ZywOo is our best, so we set up and *bait* for him, such that he delivers", it sounded so blunt and cringey, but it was true. Not anymore. I hope Navi switches it up as well. I guess the problem is that s1mple/Flamie are the senior-most players. Who's gonna tell them what to do? There's no alpha-male Zeus to control s1mple anymore :D
2020-12-23 14:42
26 replies
#76
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Denmark 4vs0
zeus could barely control s1mple either, why do u think he won with gambit and not with navi even at Boston before astralis were dominant? gambit worked because 2 primary reasons 1. hobbit and adren peaked at the perfect time (this is the one everyone focusses on) but 2 and more importantly the team actually had a direction, they had a game plan and they followed zeus' mindset whereas in navi, its more or less losing 1-2 rounds, then s1mple deciding he better save his stats that's why whenever navi dominate like katowice, everyone does well, but once navi start looking bad, its only s1mple who does well
2020-12-23 14:44
25 replies
Kinda Agreed :(
2020-12-23 14:55
u know that gambit didnt deserve to win Krakow? That was fluke event
2020-12-23 14:53
23 replies
#86
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Denmark 4vs0
just because it was a fluke doesnt mean there wasn't strategy behind that single event
2020-12-23 14:54
Still waiting for the fluke S1mple major
2020-12-23 22:12
21 replies
if navi wins major it wont be fluke cuz they won many tournaments and have been top tier team since 2014 but gambit won only major and 2 t2-3 tournaments + has never been t1 team
2020-12-23 22:25
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North America joeS
Doesn't matter. It was their time and they played better than everybody at the major. Which is why they lifted the trophy. That is what is beautiful about CS, on any day, really anyone can win if the desire is there.
2021-01-20 03:09
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they didnt play better, they were bad, just luck
2021-01-20 12:12
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North America joeS
If they were bad, then the rest of the teams were worse. Ty for good logic ))
2021-01-20 16:40
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no, just luck
2021-01-20 16:43
16 replies
thats what navi needs to win their 1 t1 event per year then fall off
2021-01-20 17:50
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navi is top 5 team in last 5 years )))))))))))))))))
2021-01-20 17:56
14 replies
yet only won 4 t1 events in the 5 years s1mple has been on the team
2021-01-20 17:56
13 replies
astralis didnt win major in 2020 (((( so sad, overrated team
2021-01-20 17:58
12 replies
s1mple didnt win major ever (((( so sad, overrated baiter
2021-01-20 17:58
btw astralis won 4 t1 events this year (maybe not prize pool wise but at least competition wise) that is let me check, exactly how many t1 events navi won in the past 5 years unfortunate for the fangays
2021-01-20 17:59
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where was atralis before 2016? they didnt exist ((( they are kids (((
2021-01-20 18:01
9 replies
device was top 3 2015 s0mple not even top 20 what a noob imagine missing top 20
2021-01-20 18:01
8 replies
device in cs 1.6 (((( no(((( noob kid ((((
2021-01-20 18:02
7 replies
device_7_hltv_top_20 s0mple_5_hltv_top_20 as the ruski fangays say xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2021-01-20 18:03
6 replies
device cs 1.6 (((((((((
2021-01-20 18:04
5 replies
s1mple got banned for cheating in 1.6 xaxaxaxaxaxa
2021-01-20 18:05
4 replies
device kid (((
2021-01-20 18:05
3 replies
s1mple scammed kis xaxaxaxaxaxa s1mple such a shitty person ur jokes turn into actually concerning things hes done
2021-01-20 18:07
2 replies
device kid ))))
2021-01-20 18:07
1 reply
nt cuddleslut
2021-01-21 00:52
and navi doesnt play for s1mple in every round
2020-12-23 14:54
4 replies
nt s1mple CSGOD
2021-01-21 00:52
3 replies
ok kid
2021-01-21 11:54
2 replies
have you stopped crying yet or should I give u another 2-3 months
2021-01-22 01:29
1 reply
where am i crying?
2021-01-22 12:21
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Denmark ghostan11
You still around after seeing s0mple getting rekt by zywoo this year?
2020-12-23 13:58
10 replies
s1mple>>>>>>zywoo btw
2020-12-23 14:27
s1mple actually got the better of zywoo in head to head duels, but keep believing what your delusional ass wants to believe.
2020-12-23 16:40
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#180
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Denmark ghostan11
imagine s0mple winning an event over zywoo that's sad
2020-12-23 16:41
6 replies
keep twisting the argument in your favour like the idiot you are
2020-12-23 16:42
5 replies
#182
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Denmark ghostan11
keep malding s0mple fan
2020-12-23 16:43
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im not a fan of anyone, i look at facts. unlike you, who hates on a player because he fucks up your favourite teams. keep being a biased little bitch.
2020-12-23 17:29
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Denmark ghostan11
totally not malding s0mple fan. I see you're butthurt that zywoo raped s1mple everytime they played on finals. imagine s0mple reaction after losing from 2-0 to 2-3 xaxaxa
2020-12-23 17:31
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damn, what a retarded 16 year old danish kid. youre not worth my time son.
2020-12-23 17:35
1 reply
#206
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Denmark ghostan11
imagine backing out from argument cuz you know you're full of shit. You're prob the type of guy who thinks s1mple was better this year. imagine statpadding and baiting whole team to not win anything besides katowice and still having the same rating as zywoo.
2020-12-23 17:40
nt s1mple_CSGOD
2021-01-21 00:52
#264
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North America joeS
+1
2021-01-20 03:05
#269
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Russia UM4R
S1MPLE ABOVE AVERAGE LMAO YOURE STUPID GO PLAY FOOTBALL
2021-01-20 12:23
1 reply
you done crying?
2021-01-22 01:29
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Ukraine ksay
you're saying that only because Vitality has more success on paper Na'Vi has A LOT more firepower maybe s1mple needs to change his playstyle so na'vi can be better as a team (:
2020-12-23 13:57
6 replies
#39
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Denmark ghostan11
Navi more firepower 0/8
2020-12-23 13:59
5 replies
#40
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Ukraine ksay
0/8
2020-12-23 13:59
4 replies
#46
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Denmark ghostan11
Perfecta fatboomla flamie 30 kills combined per game Nice firepower
2020-12-23 14:08
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#71
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Ukraine ksay
that's what happens when u bait for s1mple
2020-12-23 14:40
2 replies
#72
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Denmark 4vs0
+1 , switch s1mple and zywoo teams elec 1.25 rating boombl4 perfecto flamie all 1.05+ then vita with s1mple rpk shox apex like 0.90 rating missutta maybe 0.95 nivera 0.98 max
2020-12-23 14:41
1 reply
+1
2021-01-22 01:29
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Russia reguix
2020-12-23 13:04
24 replies
+1.
2020-12-23 13:07
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Brazil arunino
+1
2020-12-23 13:34
#34
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Denmark ghostan11
0/8
2020-12-23 13:57
#52
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Denmark 4vs0
proof he farmed the charity event?
2020-12-23 14:26
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#93
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Russia reguix
8 maps with 1.38 rating "FARMED" LMAO
2020-12-23 15:07
16 replies
#95
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Denmark 4vs0
without it im sure his rating is equal to zywoo their difference is only 0.01 to begin with
2020-12-23 15:14
15 replies
Umm no. Here's the proof: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. Check the filtered events on the left - only Tier1 LANs and Tier1 EU tournaments.
2020-12-23 15:21
14 replies
Maps: 135 - 179
2020-12-23 15:45
9 replies
The reason is - I have included EU RMR events, but not other RMR events, because EU RMR events are Tier1, unlike other regions. in the current RMR system (that was introduced in 2020 online era), the teams are region-locked. Even if Navi wanted to, they are literally not allowed to participate in EU RmR. This is unlike tournaments like Blast Finals/IEM Global, where NA/CIS teams can come to EU to play.
2020-12-23 16:32
8 replies
so where is the event list of all events minus charity
2020-12-23 16:35
It would be interesting to have the filter with the three cis RMR events ^^
2020-12-23 17:01
6 replies
Check #167 for stats of all the tournaments, including CIS RmRs Check #183 for stats of only the biggest tournaments, EXCLUDING both EU and CIS RmRs Check #97 for stats of all the biggest tournaments, INCLUDING EU RmRs, but excluding all other RmRs, Tier1.5/TIer2 events.
2020-12-23 17:04
5 replies
Thanks A little ZywOo advantage I think anyway. But we can see how much it plays out. When they're tight I think the impact stats give ZywOo a slight advantage. We really have two crazy players haha
2020-12-23 17:24
4 replies
Agreed :) ZywOo seems to have a slight edge at the moment, all things considered. He will be 1st, most probably.
2020-12-23 17:41
3 replies
I don't speak English, but from what I understand they will obviously count MVPs / EVPs as usual despite the fact that there was no MVPs/EVPs shown during the online age. And even there, ZywOo has a 5/6 vs 2/3 advantage ( MVPs ) and 3/4 vs 5/6 EVPs In any case, what interests me the most is what is below the top 2. The top 5 to 20 may be very interesting.
2020-12-23 17:47
2 replies
By MVP, if you mean the highest rated player in a tournament, then s1mple has 6 such tournaments, and ZywOo has 8. I don't know how you've arrived at the EVP numbers lol, but if you're talking about being amongst the top2-5 highest rated players of a tournament, there are more for s1mple than ZywOo, mainly because of s1mple's consistency since the starting of 2020 (ZywOo's later year achievements are mostly MVP worthy, beyond EVP. He has lesser EVP counts, because of bombing out at many events). You can check the exact count by yourself. And yeah, I'm interested for the entire list as well :D
2020-12-23 18:00
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MVP: S1mple: Iem Katowice, Esl Pro league and beijing ? Zywoo: 2x Blast, Cologne, cs summit, Dreamhack Open Fall, Beijing ? For EVPs, I'm lazy to check but yes that's what I said, s1mple automatically has more than ZywOo S1mple rather 7/8 EVPs and ZywOo 3/4? I was wrong, I meant 6/7 evps for S1mple, but it's still potentially false haha
2020-12-23 18:30
#136 try again narrative pusher
2020-12-23 15:58
3 replies
#167 Wow, I had assumed you to be a reasonable fellow. Turns out you're just like others. You've already begun name-calling lol. I don't need to "try". It's all there for everyone to see.
2020-12-23 16:33
2 replies
assuming a biased fanboy to be a reasonable person? i expected better from you
2020-12-23 17:39
1 reply
Lmao :(
2020-12-23 17:46
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. this is the list with the charity event removed, equal rating unfortunately for u
2020-12-23 16:38
nt cuddleslut
2021-01-21 00:52
Who looks dumb now?
2021-01-22 01:41
so you think cis is "weaker region"?
2020-12-23 13:14
4 replies
#41
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Denmark Notallama
By quite a large margin.
2020-12-23 14:02
1 reply
#66
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Denmark 4vs0
get a load of this guy above u CIS is closer to NA than EU EU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CIS > NA > SA > Asia
2020-12-23 14:36
#53
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Denmark 4vs0
yes, and tbh not even close
2020-12-23 14:26
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Brazil arunino
dev0ce fan LOL
2020-12-23 13:33
2 replies
+1 ec0vic3 fans malding
2020-12-23 14:55
1 reply
s0mple LOOOOOL
2021-01-22 01:30
cringe but s1mple > zywoo
2020-12-23 13:50
4 replies
+1 no doubts
2020-12-23 14:55
2 replies
cya next year kkkkk cry is free loser
2021-01-20 20:06
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:51
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:50
"HLTV basically confirmed zywoo top 1 after Zvonimir "professeur" Burazin made the claim that NaVi's "lan" win at katowice will NOT be significantly more valuable than any other t1 online event." Anyone got a clip of that? Not doubting, just interested
2020-12-23 13:56
4 replies
#54
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Denmark 4vs0
yes i do give me 1 sec
2020-12-23 14:26
#55
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Denmark 4vs0
2020-12-23 14:26
2 replies
Thank you!
2020-12-23 14:30
1 reply
#64
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Denmark 4vs0
np place ur bets on zywoo #1 because that's as close to proof as it can get, obviously they wont full spoil it
2020-12-23 14:30
Why are they malding? You are the one who seems childish :/ I prefer s1mple but I realize that Zywoo performed better the last part of this year which probably sealed it :) Not sure why anyone would be malding(you are the only one who seems to be). The best man this year should of course win this year, no matter who we are talking about.
2020-12-23 13:53
3 replies
+1 This seems more like bait for fans of s1mple given how he misspelled his name.
2020-12-23 15:32
2 replies
I see
2020-12-23 16:32
1 reply
Post #163, the user just keeps doing it. The user also keeps assuming every user who is a fan of s1mple to be an alternate account of Sam2k, a 10 year banned user. Post #134. Have a good day.
2020-12-23 16:52
flair checks.... astralis and nazi trash
2020-12-23 13:56
7 replies
#74
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Denmark 4vs0
im taking this from someone called j leet?
2020-12-23 14:42
2 replies
im taking this from someone that has 2 letters and 2 digits, likes Device and is from Daneland. okay buddy
2020-12-23 14:43
1 reply
#78
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Denmark 4vs0
my name isnt meant to be meaningful its a play off the failed defuse ur name is literally jay leet do u say leet in ur free time? like woah dude bro that was so leet let me hit that juul
2020-12-23 14:45
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:50
3 replies
this thread 1 month old, what is wrong buddy?
2021-01-21 13:55
2 replies
1 month is the amount of time s0mple fans are gonna mald
2021-01-22 01:30
1 reply
0/8 literally said navi and astralis bad
2021-01-22 04:44
didn't read but s0mple fans malding
2020-12-23 13:58
1 reply
sam2k alts definately malding the hardest rn
2021-01-21 00:49
You just proved your point. Look at how many brainless p1mple fans here LUL. Zywoo >>>>>>>> p1mple
2020-12-23 14:02
7 replies
#58
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Denmark 4vs0
s1mple isnt even better than cold or gtr (2x top 1 and major winner) or even olof (1x top 1 like s1mple but 3 majors)
2020-12-23 14:27
6 replies
#67
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United Kingdom Multiplism
Yes, Olof. A player who has won 3 MAJORS. Get off your, High-horse, it was 2.
2020-12-23 14:34
1 reply
#68
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Denmark 4vs0
my bad ur right it was 2 still 1x top 1 + 2 majors + 1 major mvp > 1x top 1 + 0 majors + 0 major mvp + 0 major finals positive ratings
2020-12-23 14:35
Yep. He definetly have the higher ceiling, but like olof said: "the best player has to win"
2020-12-23 14:57
3 replies
devilwalk best player ever then LuL. You win as a team. Top 20 and who is the best is about individual performance. That is why s1mple owned device in 2018. When device had the best year of his life with his team. But s1mple had the best year ever than any player before.
2020-12-23 15:35
2 replies
No. You need the stats and the achievements. Im talking about being the goat, not being top 1 of the year
2020-12-23 18:31
1 reply
True, too many people nowadays think being the goat is some linear scale for rating hltv placements, majors, major mvps, t1 trophies, t1 mvps, consistency, relevance, all that stuff all matters, its not just rating for example cold 2x top 1 2x major winner 2x major mvp > s1mple 1x top 1, 0x major winner 0x major mvp shouldn't even be a debate but stats matter more to some of these kids
2020-12-23 18:34
ok
2020-12-23 14:02
3 replies
#70
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Denmark 4vs0
NiKo good but unfortunately not zywoo level maybe next year if g2 have a bounce back
2020-12-23 14:39
2 replies
N1Ko Top 1 this year and next Major MVP
2021-01-21 06:19
1 reply
better chance than s0mple
2021-01-22 01:31
#48
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France Naiizo
+1
2020-12-23 14:10
1 reply
#69
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Denmark 4vs0
ez zywoo
2020-12-23 14:38
Wait, HLTV really added stats from charity event to s1mple stats of the year?!
2020-12-23 14:45
23 replies
#79
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Denmark 4vs0
yes, because that event had top 20 teams also usually online events can be filtered out but this year since it was all online, an online charity event cant be filtered out with top 20 or online filter
2020-12-23 14:46
22 replies
Yes you can, if you're willing to do it. Here's all the "big events" of 2020 stats, against the top20 teams: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. If you want all Tier1/Tier2 events of 2020, except the charity event, just ask. I can provide that as well, for any filter you ask. You can do it yourself, if you got the time.
2020-12-23 15:29
21 replies
+1 HLTV has all of the statistics for a reason.
2020-12-23 15:30
lets do some quick math s1mple played 214 maps this year charity event was 8 maps how come, even without filter, ur list of events only totals 135 maps 60 maps basically disappeared?
2020-12-23 15:58
19 replies
They didn't disappear. If we count all the qualifier events like Blast Series (both Spring and Fall seasons), tournaments like ICE Challenge, CIS RmR events, the total will add up. Here's the proof (without charity event, and check the filtered tournaments on left): hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. It's funny how you ask rhetorical questions, without even bothering to look up why things are, the way they are.
2020-12-23 16:27
18 replies
Its funny how after all uve said i still haven't seen a stat sheet of all events minus the charity event
2020-12-23 16:34
17 replies
Did you click on the link in #167? Or do you prefer to talk before checking? For your lazy self, I included all events, Tier1, Tier1.5, and Tier2, except charity event, in which Navi participated. Not all of these tournaments are even relevant, though.
2020-12-23 16:37
16 replies
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. good work and what does this prove? the charity event boosted s1mple up 0.01 rating just like i suspected
2020-12-23 16:37
15 replies
Well, I think it's necessary to clarify - I don't think CIS RmR events will be given the same weightage as EU RmR tournaments (like CS_Summit/Dreamhack Open Fall, etc) even if the teams were region-locked. If you agree with that, many of the tournaments in #177 list are irrelevant. If we took only the Tier1 LANs and EU tournaments (including RU RmR) and used the top20 filter on it, s1mple's still ahead by 0.01, albeit with lesser maps than ZywOo. Do you want me to prepare a list without any RmRs (both EU and CIS out) and with only the biggest tournaments? EDIT: Here's the list you probably want. NO RmRs included (both CIS RMRs and EU RMRs out). Only Tier1 LANs and Tier1 EU tournaments of 2020: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01..
2020-12-23 16:54
14 replies
no, #177 is good see the original comment that sparked all of this was my claim that s1mple's 0.01 lead was likely due to the charity event where a fanboy posted his 1.38 rating at the event and doubted it had any influence therefore i was wondering if there was a list, basically of all events played except the charity event, which u provided and my hypothesis was correct, that 1.38 rating was enough to bump s1mple's top 20 filter rating up 0.01, meaning without it, he and zywoos filtered ratings are tied
2020-12-23 18:21
13 replies
Yes, you're correct there and there's no room for doubt, as #177 shows. That charity event was MR13, totally irrelevant lol. The important question is, how will the CIS region be accounted for? Even without that charity event: 1) If CIS RmRs are NOT counted, s1mple is ahead by 0.01, but with lesser maps (obviously) than ZywOo. 2) If both CIS and EU RmRs are NOT counted, then too s1mple is ahead by 0.01, but with more maps played than ZywOo (because of overall deeper runs by Navi in 2020). 3) If every single tournament is counted (except charity event of course), they are tied at 1.28.
2020-12-23 18:53
12 replies
u bring up an interesting point i think, ill explain in 2 parts part 1 yes, s1mples rating was negatively affected by cis only events, but does that mean s1mple underperformed at those specific events, and if so why should we give him a pardon for underperforming against weaker competition
2020-12-23 18:56
part 2 lets say, for example zywoo got to the major playoffs, and the other 7 teams were complete ass, like all outside of the top 20 for whatever reason then lets say zywoo shits the bed and does shit but then we say ehh it wasn't against t1 teams so it doesn't really count kind of a extended analogy to the s1mple cis situation
2020-12-23 18:57
10 replies
Yes I understand the foundations of both of your points. Now, if we do decide to take those RmR tournaments into account, with the same weightage as others, that's basically changing the rules of the game, after it has begun. Here's why: It was clarified at the start of the current RmR points system in early 2020, that these region-specific RmR tournaments will only be used to determine regional seeding at majors, and will not have any further implications, per se. (Regular Team ranking update is a different thing, mind you). With that reason, in IEM NY CIS for example, on the 1st day of the tournament before it had even begun, Blad3 gave a statement that since RmR tournaments don't matter beyond major seeding, and Navi already has secured "Legends" status at the majors (by winning clutch island), they wouldn't play this tournament seriously, and treat it like an extended light-break period. For the reason that it doesn't matter, the team didn't practice, as reported by the coach. As for s1mple, he was said to be late-night partying at bars during that time, proofs being on his Insta and Youtube streams of other streamers. I'm not even talking about Boomich having fever, Perfecto having covid, or Navi forfeiting semi-finals due to it. Is it fair to say now that all those tournaments are suddenly relevant? My answer - I am undecided. HLTV hasn't released an official statement anytime recently, about whether it would be counted for HLTV Top20
2020-12-23 19:17
9 replies
good intellectual answer which i am not entirely prepared to answer, however (AND IM NOT SAYING U SPECIFICALLY SAID THIS) but if were operating under the assumption that seeding matches don't matter then we also need to filter out matches like this hltv.org/matches/2339103/complexity-vs-n.. because regardless of whether or not navi won this, they still made the blast finals
2020-12-23 21:15
7 replies
Yeah, I agree. And I didn't consider these matches to begin with, in #98 (check "event filer" on the left. Only the main events are included, all qualifiers like regular blast season, showdown, etc are excluded). And in #183, I have excluded all RMR seeding tournaments as well, in addition to the already excluded qualifier events.
2020-12-23 21:28
6 replies
honestly, at the end of the day, u can say I'm hating but i just don't see a world where u can say s1mple had a better year than zywoo i mean as we established, removing the charity event gives them equal rating hltv has done so many things on twitter or social media promoting zywoos impact, and prof talking about how katowice is kinda blown out of proportion also just the fact that zywoo's playstyle is more friendly to his teammates and doesn't hinder them as much as s1mple's playstyle ill admit its close but its one of those close situations where i think the victor is "slightly" above in almost every important catagory
2020-12-23 21:28
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And here is the crux of the discussion - I never disagreed with this :D I've only disputed your original claim, which I can statistically see to be wrong. ZywOo deserves it more, but not exactly for the reasons you originally stated. However, that's a different argument, and I never argued about that :)
2020-12-23 21:34
4 replies
my original claim that s1mple's rating is inflated by the charity event?
2020-12-23 21:34
3 replies
Please don't get me started again lmao, let's call it a day now :D
2020-12-23 21:36
2 replies
ok have a good day
2020-12-23 21:36
1 reply
You too :)
2020-12-23 21:37
at least for me, i think any match (outside of charity matches since those are played purely for charity and not competition) but any match a team decides to participate in should be treated equally as far as stats go, because then u get into the dangerous situation of what does or doesn't count for example idk if u remember those weird group stages with 4 teams each playing 3 matches against the other 3 teams and u got into the situation where it was something like 2-1 2-1 2-1 0-2 or 3-0 2-1 1-2 0-3 or something what if it was a situation where it was 2-0 (had tiebreaker against both 1-1 teams) 1-1 1-1 0-2 so they were basically guaranteed to top their group regardless of how the last match went it would be too complicated to filter out every match that quote on quote didnt matter and what if a match ended up not mattering, would that still matter
2020-12-23 21:22
#81
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Korea ramza72
ITS ALL ABOUT " O N L I N E "
2020-12-23 14:48
1 reply
#82
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Denmark 4vs0
precisely the point professeur made its not like teams chose to ditch online events, they had no choice and therefore hltv rankings wont be based heavily on katowice
2020-12-23 14:49
ZyWoo is insane and if I couuld choose between him and s1mple for my team I would definitely choose ZyWoo But if he grabs the first place this year, I don't know, that would be the biggest fail ever. Because in terms of individual skill s1mple is clearly a bit ahead
2020-12-23 14:53
3 replies
#90
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Denmark 4vs0
niko being ranked 11th last year should show u hltv cares more about results and less about potential
2020-12-23 14:56
2 replies
yeah and it sucks this is why i'm not even looking forward to this ranking top-class CS is the best thing about CS
2020-12-23 14:58
1 reply
#186
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India somecunt
Idk how potential should affect the ratings and it doesn't happen in other sports either. It's performance that should be taken at the end,else there would be no point of giving it, just give it at the start of the year Because performance doesn't matter anyways.
2020-12-23 16:53
s1mple top 1 2020
2020-12-23 14:56
2 replies
Chrisj*
2020-12-23 16:35
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:51
I think zywoo will take it. But Prof isn't involved with the top 20 list at all, and it was all his opinion. Striker who will be involved with the list, didn't agree with him as well.
2020-12-23 15:10
1 reply
#96
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Denmark 4vs0
both are involved in the list, both write articles for the list
2020-12-23 15:14
#99
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Even with this, ZywOo was better statistically this year anyway. Vitality reached far more grand-finals than Na'Vi and achieved more victories. Do a side-by-side list of s1mple/ZywOo. Bearing in mind all stats are taken into account, tournaments included. PS: Why "s0mple"? Click-bait or spite? EDIT: Added addendum.
2020-12-23 15:29
6 replies
When a major win is morwe worthy than 5 other tournament wins than the same counts for Katowice vs online era.
2020-12-23 15:30
5 replies
There were no CS:GO Majors in 2020, otherwise I agree in that the accolades (especially MVP) for a CS:GO Major ate with more than a regular tournament because that is what CS:GO Majors have always been.
2020-12-23 15:35
4 replies
Katowice and cologne are the BIG events of the year. In terms of prestige they are close to the major also both have 1 million prize money. So Katowice was more or less the major 2020.
2020-12-23 15:37
3 replies
They were just Tier-S tournaments exactly alike the ones we have been having, the only difference is the online-factor.
2020-12-23 15:40
2 replies
Online Tournaments never tier-s tournaments. The quality is crap. Can you remember the Cologne event?? I can't cuz it was in nowhere between 3000 other online tournaments. A Lan is a big quality aspect of an event and gives it more value, that is why we all want LAN back and that is why Valve don't do an online major.
2020-12-23 15:42
1 reply
That is the point I'm making, friend. The only difference is LAN and online, but the tournaments themselves are still Tier-S tournaments whether we like it or not. - CS:GO Major Tournaments -- S-Tier Tournaments --- A-Tier Tournaments ---- B-Tier Tournaments ----- C-Tier Tournaments ------ Qualifier Tournaments With the exception of the "Online era", the Big-Events of this year would be S-Tier LAN Tournaments, otherwise there would never be this exception usually.
2020-12-23 16:13
Professor said his opinion it is no fact and he has nothing to do with the top 20 decision. Stop spreading bullshit fake news thx
2020-12-23 15:29
2 replies
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:49
well the decision is out now so
2021-01-22 01:32
+1
2020-12-23 15:30
#109
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Europe rust1c
god bless denmark normal people
2020-12-23 15:36
2 replies
astralis fans >>>>>>> s0mple fans in terms of reality
2021-01-22 01:32
1 reply
#368
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Europe rust1c
astralis fans have a huge reason to cheer for astra, s0mple fans sees one flickshot that he landed luckly but with fast reaction time and they say fck hltv poople top1
2021-01-22 06:50
s1mple doesnt have 0.01 more rating, they are literally equal. But zywoo has better stats against top5 and top10, when s1mple has better stats against top20 only
2020-12-23 15:50
22 replies
pretty sure top 20 is what hltv uses but regardless now that hltv writers have said themselves that katowice is not as important as s0mple fans tried to claim, there's almost nothing left besides the 0.01 rating
2020-12-23 15:51
10 replies
hltv doesnt use top20, I'm sure they have some "big events" filter that we can not see. But yeah, Zywoo is %100 top1 this year
2020-12-23 15:53
9 replies
hltv doesnt use big event filter in past years they used all lan events that had an hltv mvp given this year I'm assuming they will just use all "t1" online events and katowice, filtered top 20
2020-12-23 15:54
8 replies
I think they will use something like this hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. but I'm pretty sure they wont use top20 filter. Because at some point s1mple had 0.03 better stats than zywoo in top20 filter, when zywoo had 0.03 better stats against top10. If their stats had stayed like that, s1mple would have gotten top1 even though zywoo played better against top10 teams, it would be just stupid
2020-12-23 15:57
7 replies
in past years hltv used all events with hltv medals given (i.e big events and a few other lans like a few dreamhack opens with mvps) with a top 20 filter that is what they used i don't know what they will use this year but that is what they used int he past
2020-12-23 15:59
6 replies
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. hltv.org/news/28877/top-20-players-of-20.. Zywoo has 1.28 rating with top20 filter, but his rating is 1.30 in 2019's article
2020-12-23 16:03
5 replies
dog i fucking told u so many times they ONLY take events with hltv mvps given lan filter is wrong because not all lans have hltv mvp big event filter is wrong because a few lans have hltv mvp even if they are not big events u can to specifically seek out the events and then apply the filter to get the 1.3 rating
2020-12-23 16:05
4 replies
Then do you have a list with filtered events? Because right now all you're saying is "trust me bro"
2020-12-23 16:07
3 replies
dude this isnt secret information just look it up if u really wanted to test it out for urself go to y0flows page, find out all of the events with mvps given and then go to the stats page and filter them out specifically and add the top 20 filter i don't really want to do that since it'll take like 15 minutesa
2020-12-23 16:08
2 replies
I won't do it either, so lets agree to disagree
2020-12-23 16:08
1 reply
ok
2020-12-23 16:09
s1mple has far better stats on LAN.
2020-12-23 15:54
10 replies
there was 1 t1 lan this year how many times can u say this stupid statement and believe it
2020-12-23 15:55
So, we had 15 online events this year, but s1mple is top1 for you, because he played better on 2 LANs?
2020-12-23 15:55
7 replies
ice challenge wasnt even a t1 lan so it was just katowice
2020-12-23 15:55
ignore him hes just 1 of 100 sam2k alts
2020-12-23 15:55
1 reply
Assuming every fan to be an alternate account of a 10 year banned user is unfair, friend.
2020-12-23 16:23
I say you have to pick them into it and give them more value than online matches. but ofc partial not overall.
2020-12-23 16:08
3 replies
this list is called "top20 players of 2020", not "top20 LANers of 2020". LANs wont have a bigger impact
2020-12-23 16:09
2 replies
"partial" is the word. so if you can't read bye. "LANs wont have a bigger impact" Ofc otherwise we don't need Lans at all.
2020-12-23 16:14
+1 You are correct, though the "Online Era" will most likely class the very few Tier-S LAN Tournaments as the "Big Events" of 2020, when realistically all Tier-S Tournaments of 2020 should be "Big Events" despite them being online.
2020-12-23 16:17
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:48
s1mple > zywho
2020-12-23 16:03
1 reply
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:48
why are people so obsessed with this individul top20?? its a team game... it means nothing. only tournment wins matter
2020-12-23 16:07
1 reply
i agree, however s0mple fans seem to have this obsession with seeing their god get hltv top 1 so it'll be hilarious when zywoo snubs him again
2020-12-23 16:08
They posted several posts about how Zywoo is more impactful so it's pretty clear they're trying to slowly make delusional simple fanboy understand that baiting more =/= being better
2020-12-23 16:12
2 replies
the goal post for s0mple fans keeps shifting first it was vitality no trophies then it was vitality only 1 online trophy navis big event means more then it was navis katowice > both vitality trophies and their 4 finals also s0mple finals chokes weren't his faults 2 0-2 leads blown then after hearing this, they are clinging to that 0.01 rating difference
2020-12-23 16:16
1 reply
s1mple fans* What silly reason are you misspelling his name for this time?
2020-12-23 16:19
I actually haven't seen that much delusional s1mple fans in this post even after 200 comments not bad
2020-12-23 16:35
7 replies
i mean what are they gonna say its almost guaranteed at this point zywoo will get #1, they might just be getting sick of fighting a losing battle
2020-12-23 16:35
3 replies
I don't think so. Yes I am s1mple fan but not that hard. Actually I don't care that much either but I checked yesterday nearly everything. tbh I don't know exactly what hltv stuff is doing when making list but both team wise and player wise. They are close. 1st half NaVi was better 2nd half Vitality was better. Vitality achieved little more but sucked hard 1st half. About player stats, they are so close. So don't hate or don't try to get attention because this is useless.
2020-12-23 16:53
Also I saw your comments and you are total hater. People should not care your opinion because you are talking nonsense. Sometimes s1mple fans are awful because of s1mple haters like you. So basicly both of you are shit.
2020-12-23 16:54
1 reply
unfortunately, unlike s0mple fans, i can actually evaluate players without rose colored glasses in that it was obvious from the start what the result would be, hopefully u weren't too disappointed although it was pretty clear from the jump
2021-01-21 00:59
Not all fans are considered "delusional", friend.
2020-12-23 16:55
2 replies
I know that, however I think there was a misunderstanding here. I was specifically talking about ones that are deniant of facts and will say Na'Vi or s1mple are top 1 without any valid arguments even after top 20 / rankings are posted. Definitely not my goal to target all s1mple fans. Sorry for the misunderstanding again
2020-12-23 16:57
1 reply
Not a problem and thank you for the clarification. :) Denying fact and logic in favour of idolisation and materialism is what being a fan is, friend. Though I'll admit it is rare, though they do exist, to see a devoted fan in favour of facts and logic. :)
2020-12-23 17:03
#189
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Sweden shonk
I mean, u know urself that s1mple has 0.10 higher kd, 0.01 higher 2.0 rating and better perfomance since day 1 of the season. Why would anybody choose Zywoo over s1mple when he was struggling the first half of the year and could barely reach the same rating at the end of the year? Their last 2 matches showed how much of difference there is between them, like their first match where Zywoo couldnt really show anything special until the last map, all thanks to shox, misutaa and nivera who carried over and inferno from 0-2 score. The truth is, only insecure people like you would create such a thread 28 days before the announcement. Just make sure to come here 20th of November :)
2020-12-23 16:57
3 replies
They are awful man.. I am not even s1mple fan that hard but seeing this amount of hate.. It is awful.
2020-12-23 16:58
anyone can get a high kd by baiting every round
2020-12-23 17:25
1 reply
#198
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Sweden shonk
youtube.com/watch?v=NnOA1e3myaQ&t=812s as well as anyone can do things like these, I agree
2020-12-23 17:29
He also said that s1mple was too inconsistent throughout the year
2020-12-23 17:27
1 reply
#201
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Sweden shonk
ahhaahah, I hope ur lying
2020-12-23 17:31
these s0mple fanboys are so stupid! not s1mple fans, they're good people! s0mple fanboys are bad
2020-12-23 17:39
0/8 s1mple top 1 2020 and cry is free
2020-12-23 17:45
4 replies
FAN OF: Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev Denis 'electronic' Sharipov Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy Valeriy 'B1T' Vakhovskiy TOPICS: goat s1mple top 1 2020 Still goat s1mple top1 2020 s1mple = messi vs Device = CR7 coming soon Salty G2 fan after G2 gets eliminated 6ERMANY0 LAUGH THREADS goat s1mple haters laugh threads Fan of Natus Vincere but flair is... Denmark. Why you ashamed of your country fakeflagger?
2020-12-23 18:44
1 reply
hahahahahahahahahahaahha u rekted him bro
2021-01-21 00:53
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:47
your name perfectly applies to u
2021-01-22 01:33
If the LAN win is the same as other online t1 wins then the charity tournament is also as impactful as other tournaments that are the same level
2020-12-23 18:38
5 replies
fuck u talking about?
2020-12-23 18:40
4 replies
If kato = other online events other online events = gamers without borders. Seems fair to me, no?
2020-12-23 18:42
3 replies
did u forget ur brain when u made this comment kato = other online events because they all had t1 teams competing and the only reason other online events weren't on lan was because of the lockdown and not because those teams decided to ditch other t1 online events =/= gamers without borders because that was a charity event, had nothing to do with lockdown or anything like that, it wasn't packed with t1 teams and a stacked bracket
2020-12-23 18:46
this statement isnt even about zywoo vs s1mple anymore this statement just doesn't make sense the transitive property ur attempting to apply doesn't work because this isn't a a = b b = c situation this is a = b (t1 events, online wasn't a choice) b =/= c (c is charity, all teams know this before hand and it wasn't some no choice t1 stacked bracket situation
2020-12-23 18:49
s0mple fan logic lmao
2021-01-22 01:33
zywoo will take 1# again 4 sure
2020-12-23 18:39
1 reply
id say at least 80% chance of happening about a week ago, i was about 60/40 2 things changed since then 1. hltv admits katowice isn't that much better than any regular t1 online event 2. i got a link to a rating list with the charity event not included, where with the top 20 filter zywo o and s1mple are tied, therefore the 0.01 difference is created by the charity event
2020-12-23 18:42
+1 so ez 4 zywoo
2020-12-23 19:07
I still dont get hltv obsession with unofficial number one spot ranking in a fucking team game . I bet if you could ask Zywoo , Simple , Device and others if they prefer to be crowned number 1 in hltv ranking or win 1 big tournament they would chose the latter , this award has little to no value imo .
2020-12-23 19:22
4 replies
same, I mean it's an interesting ranking and it can be interesting to talk about it but most people literally go crazy over it and spam about it everyday, like wtf they care more about it than the players themselves
2021-01-20 03:01
s1mple did say in 2018 that being HLTV #1 was a priority
2021-01-21 06:44
2 replies
Well no wonder he never won a major then
2021-01-21 15:19
1 reply
+1
2021-01-22 01:36
ok, zywoo 1 z0mple 2, ez
2020-12-23 22:13
we'll see what they do
2021-01-20 02:39
#246
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Russia ToughGuy
KEKW reading this bullshit once again knowing that s1mple will be top1 is so funny
2021-01-20 02:35
2 replies
+1 lmao
2021-01-20 02:44
MAD LMAOOOOO
2021-01-21 00:47
where did u got that 0.01 rating diff ? when is 0.03 in elite events ? delusional fan only advantage that zywho has is 1 mvp more bcs 2 of them are rmr and doesnt count bcs s1mple is region locked and they don t give mvps for cis region so your point is stupid s1mple in elite events 1.30 zywho in elite events 1.27 s1mple 9 out of 11 evps from elite events zywho 2 of 11 evps from elite events s1mple better ratings againts top 5 and top 20 zywho better ratings againts top 10 and they are tied on top 30 and top 50 s1mple better playoffs and grandfinals rating than zywho all of this is in favor of s1mple delusional kid check it then type
2021-01-20 02:38
30 replies
#248
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Russia ToughGuy
Where did u get playoffs rating from? XD
2021-01-20 02:40
3 replies
from a guy swarn45 idk how and he has them from striker and professour zywho will had better playoffs rating if they will include rmr events if not s1mple is leading by far and for grandfinals even if they will include rmr events or not s1mple is destroying zywho in finals
2021-01-20 02:43
2 replies
Cri
2021-01-20 20:19
maybe next year s1mple CSGOD alt
2021-01-21 00:57
Will be here this evening to see you cri
2021-01-20 02:40
16 replies
You should stock up on tears.
2021-01-20 02:46
15 replies
Dont worry bud I got plenty of tissues for you when you face the reality
2021-01-20 02:47
14 replies
Cya at 7 pm UTC
2021-01-20 02:53
13 replies
I doubt anyone would want to be around when s0mple fankids will cry
2021-01-20 02:54
12 replies
+1 ZywOo fangirls' tears flood out the whole site. But that doesn't really bother me since I've read all 4 volumes of Tolstoy's War and Peace 🤗
2021-01-20 03:05
11 replies
Stop crying s0mple fan kid ahahahahah
2021-01-20 20:03
How many tissues do you need?
2021-01-20 20:04
2 replies
he needs 2 >the placement he made this year >the amount of times zywoo ranked above him >and the amount of major finals he choked
2021-01-21 01:02
1 reply
Care
2021-01-21 06:16
nt cuddleslut
2021-01-21 00:55
1 reply
Who
2021-01-21 01:29
maybe next year
2021-01-22 01:35
2 replies
Doubt it
2021-01-22 01:36
1 reply
me too tbh dont think he'll ever place above zywoo
2021-01-22 01:36
No one got that water joke :-/
2021-01-22 05:06
1 reply
That's true( At least HLTV's got blameF_smartest_fan to catch jokes
2021-01-22 22:46
Yeah but you misspelled ZywOo and s0mple so your reply is irrelevant now
2021-01-20 02:53
nt sam2k
2021-01-21 00:48
what an analysis bro, pity its wrong
2021-01-21 00:59
3 replies
my thread is 1 month old yet what i said was true for the entire month s1mple fans were clinging to any last string of hope they could, even as far as going to a 0.01 rating difference in very specific filters the end result was clear, the betting sites knew it, fans of any team outside of navi knew it i mean navi fans ~ s1mple top 1 vita fans ~ zywoo top 1 literally fan of any other team ~ zywoo top 1 was the consensus on hltv really not a shocker
2021-01-21 01:01
2 replies
ye, it was clear zywoo was better in 2020. its just so funny to watch all arrogant kids, who were shouting s1mple was to get #1 now.
2021-01-21 01:03
1 reply
oHoHoHHOhsah zyWHO noOb mAn 0.01 rATinG loWEr foR tOp 5 FilTeR evEnTs MAn
2021-01-21 01:05
Ahahahahaha cry
2021-01-21 06:39
Lmao XAAAXAXAAXAAAAXAXAXAXA cry me a river s0mple fanboy
2021-01-21 12:01
LOL nt
2021-01-22 01:35
+1
2021-01-20 02:48
#259
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Portugal joaosenra
Its ez to know who is gonna win: here all events for zywoo: hltv.org/stats/players/events/11893/zywo.. here is all for s1mple: hltv.org/stats/players/events/7998/s1mpl.. In the end zywoo's average score is 1.30 while s1mple's is 1.286875 almost 1.29, so ZywOo wins in stats and the number of mvp / evp awards
2021-01-20 03:01
#265
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
It's very rare that you see someone support s1mple where flair or flag doesn't check out. Any unbiased individual can see that zywoo is a more whole player
2021-01-20 03:05
2 replies
+99999999999
2021-01-20 17:56
luckily HLTV isnt run by sam2k
2021-01-21 00:55
taking serious pro ranking in computer games xD
2021-01-21 00:54
1 reply
i was stating the obvious do educate blind s0mple fans 1 month ago despite their constant spamming of a 0.01 filtered rating difference, turns out i was right, sorry sam2k/cuddleslut/s1mple CSGOD alts out there, maybe next year
2021-01-21 00:55
#322
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Poland Mico1337
Xi-Wu > s0mple
2021-01-21 01:02
ZywOo is the best bro. I think device deserved #2. Hope he gets this year.
2021-01-21 06:38
s0mple fans crying, nice
2021-01-21 12:02
n1
2021-01-21 12:03
#339
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Russia baryga007
Imo 2020 top feels like both s1mple and zywoo were #1 players, tbh hltv should rewarded them both with number one spot, it would be fun. Anyways i'm happy with the way things are and hope for more lan events this year.
2021-01-21 12:05
1 reply
nah zywoo was clearly ahead, more EU maps played, more tournament victories and grand finals, no top 5 teammate, more team friendly playstyle, way more mvps betting sites, fans of neither player all knew zywoo was better, only s1mple fans thought he would get it
2021-01-22 01:35
SWS
1.99
Santos
1.82
Mythic
4.00
Triumph
1.22
PACT
3.16
Sprout
1.34
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