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It's not even a debate, ZywOo is a clear winner. 6 MVPs and higher impact that s1mple. "but s1mple won a big LAN" well it can't be more valuable than 2 other MVP's so s1mple in that case would have "3" MVP instead of 2. it's obvious for any non biased user that zywoo is top 1.
2021-01-01 20:37
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no1 cars
2021-01-01 20:38
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#2
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Slovenia evrazem2k
+1
2021-01-01 20:38
#4
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Brazil ghcnvbkn
I_Car
2021-01-01 20:41
i car
2021-01-01 20:42
+1
2021-01-01 20:45
1 car
2021-01-01 20:46
+1
2021-01-01 20:46
#19
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Serbia LtN))
i car
2021-01-01 20:53
+1/8
2021-01-01 20:55
Yeap, no 🚗
2021-01-01 21:29
dacia
2021-01-01 21:50
I car
2021-01-01 21:51
#56
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China HEIDASHUAi
I 🚗
2021-01-02 04:37
#58
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Finland N1ghtmar3_
+1
2021-01-02 04:51
icar_noob
2021-01-02 10:23
+1 both carry shit teams
2021-01-02 15:46
+1
2021-01-02 15:47
#76
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France Il_padrino
I car
2021-01-02 15:47
3 replies
He said cars not car
2021-01-02 15:50
2 replies
#83
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France Il_padrino
volvo?
2021-01-02 15:51
1 reply
No u
2021-01-02 16:11
+1
2021-01-02 16:51
I car
2021-01-02 17:22
zywoo will be 1 100% if you have followed hltv top 20 rankings past years you will know zywoo will be 1
2021-01-01 20:42
1 reply
+1
2021-01-01 21:09
#7
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Denmark JustYes
Zywoo also got some really low tier mvps so its closer than you think. S1mple's katowice mvp is basically like a major mvp too
2021-01-01 20:42
14 replies
No. These players don't play bellow tier 2. Even me making the LAN equal to 2 other MVPs is a generous stretch.
2021-01-01 20:48
low tier mvps ._.
2021-01-01 21:07
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#47
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Denmark JustYes
I mean, not as low tier as I thought, but these region based events are lower tier than what events usually are
2021-01-01 22:34
3 replies
I don't know, all the teams were in the same basket and despite everything the level has been monstrous this year. So, I think it is obviously lower, but not as much as one might imagine. :)
2021-01-01 23:12
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#53
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Denmark JustYes
Yeah true, but at the same time s1mple couldn't play all high tier eu events since he had to play in the CIS qualifiers with NaVi, I think they'll take that into consideration. But it's very close and I think either ZywOo or s1mple deserves #1.
2021-01-02 04:25
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Both deserve the top 1, one, a little more thanks to the stats, that's all. The CIS side being "weaker" shouldn't have been so complicated for Navi and especially for s1mple ^^ Especially since even s1mple missed some events, like Cologne for example. We say failed but 1.12 / 1.13 rating is very good. But not for a S1mple / ZywOo Then, even if we remove the CIS tournaments, ZywOo's MVPs remain twice as numerous. It's two monsters from the same planet, this year's top 1 won't matter that much.
2021-01-02 12:33
#51
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Austria arngnr
what makes Katowice a more important event than any other tier 1 event?
2021-01-01 23:17
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#54
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Denmark JustYes
Biggest and most competitive event of the year, it was on lan too.
2021-01-02 04:32
1 reply
#118
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Austria arngnr
I'd be surprised if they consider LAN as an extra factor. And there were plenty of other just as competitive events this year
2021-01-04 20:41
#66
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United States TopBaiter
fake g2 fan spotted g2 fans aren't stupid
2021-01-02 07:33
2 replies
#78
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France Il_padrino
gosh an LDLC flair didn't see that since many times
2021-01-02 15:48
1 reply
#94
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United States TopBaiter
wow
2021-01-02 16:50
"low tier" esl one cologne 2020 iem beijng 2020 dreamhack open fall 2020 blast premier fall 2020
2021-01-02 17:03
"low tier" 0/8
2021-01-02 17:27
9 replies
tldr version?
2021-01-01 20:50
8 replies
#17
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Serbia LtN))
Katowice will be valued more and s1mple's kato mvp is basically like a major mvp this yr. You can see the images from that thread
2021-01-01 20:53
7 replies
It won't be valued more than 2 other mvps, like I said already.
2021-01-01 20:54
last year device had a major mvp along with other MVPs, but s1mple got ranked higher than him
2021-01-01 20:59
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#29
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Serbia LtN))
Yeah but stats were not so close
2021-01-01 21:01
3 replies
The difference was only 0.05, but there was also the fact that device played more maps in big events, and made more playoff appearances
2021-01-01 21:26
2 replies
#80
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France Il_padrino
And even that, s1mple get 2nd place don't forget the highlights
2021-01-02 15:50
1 reply
yes, thats why s1mple's katowice mvp wont help him, just like device's major mvp didnt help him
2021-01-02 16:04
#79
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France Il_padrino
Nop.
2021-01-02 15:49
I think its actually 50/50 between them
2021-01-01 20:44
Who cars?
2021-01-01 20:50
2 replies
everyone besides s2mple fans
2021-01-01 20:50
#18
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Serbia LtN))
i car
2021-01-01 20:53
#22
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Ukraine vskgthree
dude online sucks. check the katowice stats s1mple is GOD of CS #1 s1mple 2020 confirmed
2021-01-01 20:55
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2021-01-01 20:58
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#24
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Ukraine vskgthree
cmon dude it's s1mple
2021-01-01 20:58
2 replies
2nd place is still very good Artyom
2021-01-01 21:00
1 reply
#30
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Ukraine vskgthree
Artyom :DDDD
2021-01-01 21:01
#25
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Ukraine vskgthree
wtf
2021-01-01 20:59
#28
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Ukraine vskgthree
zywoo is really good yung player #2 deserved
2021-01-01 21:00
Zywoo: 1.34 rating 0.62 DPR 74.9% KAST 1.48 IMPACT 89.7 ADR 0.86 KPR S1mple: 1.24 rating 0.65 DPR 73.7% KAST 1.35 IMPACT 86.1 IMPACT 0.85 KPR So zywoo beats s1mple in every major stat
2021-01-01 21:54
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#43
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Ukraine vskgthree
xaxaaxxa wtf u get this stats xDDD
2021-01-01 22:00
1 reply
2021-01-01 23:17
+1
2021-01-02 04:51
I'm a s1mple fan and it's really unfortunate that NAVI couldn't play in big events cause of the lack of LANs like RTR , DH open fall, summit (some of which are events where ZywOo received MVPs), but it's clear as day that ZywOo is going to get the MVP despite s1mple having had a slightly better performance. If NAVI was somehow an EU team (pure speculation) it would have been possible s1mple received MVPs on these events and then got the title for the year. Full faith s1mple will beat out ZywOo and be #1 in 2021 tho.
2021-01-02 17:32
I personally think s1mple is better but i have to agree that zywoo has to be #1 HLTV just because of the 6 mvps. Imagine getting 6 mvps and not being 1st
2021-01-01 21:08
1 reply
respectful opinion, cheers
2021-01-01 21:10
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Ukraine zergggg
s1mple is top1-2 so I don't care.
2021-01-01 21:11
1 reply
Best comment ! :)
2021-01-01 23:13
#38
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Ukraine McSwell
Opinion from unbiased NaVi and s1mple fan: both s1mple and zywoo deserve top-1 of 2020, any from these two have agruments "for" and "against". It depends on what, how and by whom all stats and achievements will be counting.
2021-01-01 21:35
2 replies
harsh truth is that zywoo is clear number 1. number 2 is still very good tho.
2021-01-01 22:07
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#67
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United States TopBaiter
true, in 2019 s2mple was #2
2021-01-02 07:34
Zywoo: 1.34 rating 0.62 DPR 74.9% KAST 1.48 IMPACT 89.7 ADR 0.86 KPR S1mple: 1.24 rating 0.65 DPR 73.7% KAST 1.35 IMPACT 86.1 IMPACT 0.85 KPR So zywoo beats s1mple in every major stat And when filtered to top 20, zywoo still beats s1mple at 4 of the stats. Undeniable #1
2021-01-01 21:51
5 replies
exactly
2021-01-01 22:07
#62
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Russia _VaLT_
nope S1mple top 1 ez
2021-01-02 04:57
1 reply
2021-01-02 14:59
#102
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Serbia eliiiiii_
all time stats? nt nice bait
2021-01-02 17:18
1 reply
yes all time. Even in top 20 zywoo shits on s1mple
2021-01-02 17:21
oBo ez top 1
2021-01-01 22:17
ZywOo literally
2021-01-01 22:42
If Papichulo will not be #1 HLTV 2020 then this site is biased.
2021-01-02 04:36
2 replies
papichulo is zywoo?
2021-01-02 07:30
1 reply
Papichulo is a player from my country, and I'm just joking about it bro because his name is cool xD
2021-01-02 10:18
s1mple top 1 2020
2021-01-02 04:51
#60
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Poland Qzn25107
Simple Zywoo Device 100%
2021-01-02 04:52
#61
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Russia _VaLT_
s1mple ez top 1
2021-01-02 04:56
1 reply
Flair doesn't check out (flag does)
2021-01-02 04:58
It's not even a debate :DD clown
2021-01-02 07:32
8 replies
any other arguments why s1mple should be #1? guess you're the clown
2021-01-02 15:41
7 replies
I criticized his words. About my arguments; s1mple and NaVi was more consistent this year. Vitality was so bad before June 7-8th DreamHack Masters Spring 2020 - EuropeDreamHack Masters Spring 2020 - Europe FranceVitality 13 0.84 - 0.59 +78 1.33 4th ESL One: Road to Rio - EuropeESL One: Road to Rio - Europe FranceVitality 25 0.80 - 0.62 +125 1.24 7-9th ESL Pro League Season 11 EuropeESL Pro League Season 11 Europe FranceVitality 16 0.74 - 0.62 +52 1.17 9-12th IEM Katowice 2020IEM Katowice 2020 FranceVitality 7 0.76 - 0.63 +27 1.24 7-9th BLAST Premier Spring Series 2020BLAST Premier Spring Series 2020 FranceVitality 6 0.73 - 0.65 +12 1.17 See? All shit results. Their ratings are same. But against top5 and top20, s1mple's rating is better. Also this is not hltv's fault but because of RMR, NaVi didn't play 3 important event. They played bad against CIS teams but against EU teams, they were better. So I guess without waiting my argument or without asking any argument, you said clown. I think you are the biggest clown.
2021-01-02 16:02
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nice logic clown. s1mple was supposed to farm mvps and stats against cis teams but instead he downgraded his stats. no excuse there. so what if vita was bad during the first half of the year? they made up for it in the end. zywoo has higher impact and more mvp medals. it game over clown.
2021-01-02 16:19
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"so what if vita was bad during the first half of the year? " LMAOOOOO ok clown.
2021-01-02 16:49
4 replies
it's about the whole year dumbass. you take the achievements for the whole year.
2021-01-02 16:51
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yes it is about whole year idiot. and you are saying "so what if vita was bad during the first half of the year? " you even don't know what you are saying probably. Go and hate somewhere. I am looking at whole year since I started to criticize these type of things. Unlike most of people, I remember before June. Everyone is watching some 3 month period and saying "omg Vitality was consistent and good" LOL. I can understand missing games but everyone has internet and everyone know hltv. #85 shows Vitality before June. Finding these stats is not hard. But people are so stupid that they are not looking at stats, not watching the games and only remember recent past and only remember what they watched.
2021-01-02 16:55
2 replies
you are so stupid that it hurts. just stfu and gtfo of my bread.
2021-01-02 16:56
1 reply
you can't even give any anti argument. Just go and don't bother me again
2021-01-02 16:57
xi wu top 1
2021-01-02 15:03
#77
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Finland HARD4ENCE
MVPs were not even properly given after everything went online... Did you pick those 6 out of your arse?
2021-01-02 15:49
7 replies
go to zywoo's profile and check the mvp list clown
2021-01-02 16:24
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Those mean shit when the whole list/profiles are fucked up atm, it doesn't even properly show all the players and teams because of the EU/NA division. Now, who's the clown here? At which point did they OFFICIALLY announce MVPs after Katowice? I don't really remember a single occasion.
2021-01-02 16:27
5 replies
"they don't mean shit" lol "those list/profiles are fucked up" No, mvps lists are perfect. also, hltv.org/events/5209/blast-premier-fall-.. just scroll a little bit and you'll see a huge fucking mvp section with zywoo's name
2021-01-02 16:43
2 replies
Zywoo has 2 teammate above 1.20 rating that tournament lol
2021-01-02 16:56
1 reply
it's even harder to have good stats then, there's only so many kills available
2021-01-03 19:52
hltv.org/news/30897/top-20-players-of-20.. « but as you may have noticed, we have now added MVPs from the latter events and determined all the other EVPs after crunching all the numbers. »
2021-01-02 17:25
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#110
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Cool.
2021-01-02 17:36
#81
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CIS Kalich_
LAN without the crowd is not even a LAN imo
2021-01-02 15:51
#84
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Portugal TugaDark
true
2021-01-02 15:57
Ez zywoo n1
2021-01-02 16:30
device is the true Top1 He just lets s1mple and Zywh0 have some fun. He will rekt both of them in the next major. Also, s1mple is much better than zywh0
2021-01-02 17:26
6 replies
nope, he is just listening to papa zonic and gla1ve like a good boy and hitting ez shots.
2021-01-02 17:35
5 replies
And still winning more tournaments than Lulality. Doesn't even need anybody to play around him. He has mastered the game. And knows how to win tournaments.
2021-01-02 17:37
4 replies
these are individual awards, remember?
2021-01-02 17:42
3 replies
It's a team-based game, remember? It's better to give it to the best player of the best team.
2021-01-02 17:43
2 replies
No.
2021-01-02 17:44
1 reply
Okay, now read my bio :D
2021-01-02 17:47
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2021-01-02 17:40
#119
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North America HUDASKz
Zywoo top 1 s1mple top 2
2021-01-04 20:50
Renegades
3.36
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1.31
hREDS
1.05
KOVA
9.55
FaZe
1.36
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3.06
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