Wrong. Zywoo gets better stats against: top5/top10/top30/top50 S1mple is only ahead in top20.

so s1mple top1

Good work!

Also, do check #192 . It has been confirmed by HLTV

I think you've misunderstood. #56 and #68

I think blameF sucks wet asshole and ropz is a god

ropz so good he dont need no wider enemies to hit their heads

+1

Hey, no toxicity on this thread please. Do it somewhere else. Thank you

What it means is - when people say s1mple's stats against Top5, Top30, Top50, etc is weaker than ZywOo, that is nonsense. s1mple has better stats against Top5, Top20, and equal in Top30, Top50. Stats aren't the only thing that matters, but it's definitely in s1mple's favour.

0_0 I didn't know this at all. Thanks to striker and prof!

wow thanks for infomation!

0_0 This is actually insane. You should become an analyst for HLTV. At least a writer.

Def makes things closer than I thought as I've just gone off filtering stats just by selecting "top x" option. I think zywoo has the mvps to make up for the stats as they are quite close but I thought it was locked in for zywoo, not anymore. And this is with counting LAN as equal to online, if you were to apply a multiplier or some sort of equation to LAN it would only increase the difference between zywoo and simple (in simples favour ofc). Hard to know the exact thought process of the admins and how they will weigh LAN more if at all. Given Brezhe as 20 they aren't counting EU that much over NA. That could apply to LAN vs online, but who knows. I sort of gave my thoughts on this the other day though It's nothing with actual backing. I just wrote down some ideas. don't want to copy paste because it's a bit long so here is the thread: hltv.org/forums/threads/2399485/brezhe-2..https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/2399485/brezhe-20-insight

Fantastic work as always, friend. :) SWARN the "Stats-wizard". ;)

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#192 Another *confirmed* Stats list has been added (confirmed by Striker)

Thought about elaborating my question, you answered before I could. Thank you!

It was a generic question, I believe. When we use Top10 filter (or any other filter) on stats for a player X, it will include stats when X's team was Top10 but opponent team was NOT Top10. These matches shouldn't be included, right? We are only interested in X's performance when the opponent team was Top10. Hence, we should look at featured ratings.

His statistics are wrong.

Don't worry, s1mple #1 HLTV confirmed.

I agree but the fact that Striker says it, means they don't even know how their rating works. If in a statement you say 2 facts but the 2nd fact is proven to be false then there is no way i'm gonna trust the first one. Don't care about the ratings so it doesn't bother me that much but it's still kinda strange.

device has better team members, and those team members are world-class

Haha n1 :)

You haven't explained how, friend. It is probably better to reply to the SWARN151 himself.

it only makes one washed up, then they be like make an 20 page presentation, you have 2 weeks on it and i be like bruh wtf bruh like wtf

yeah i know, sry for behaving like this

All RMRs have been reduced in weightage (you can check my 2nd last thread) for that. ESL Road to Rio, CS_Summit6, DreamhackOpen Fall have all reduced weightage. This could also have been a contributing factor for Navi being 2nd and Vitality being 3rd, this year. Even Blast Spring Finals (no NA teams) and Dreamhack Winter (No Navi, Vitality) were excluded.

Stats aren't the only thing, though. Although, I think it's kinda tough now, for Xantares to be in the Top14. Let's see :)

ropz is 7th confirmed

1) In "elite events" (very important), device is much ahead of Niko: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. 2) In "big events' play-offs", I think device would once again be ahead of Niko with many more maps than Niko, since he has performed very well at play-offs this year. 3) device has 3 MVPs + 6-7 EVPs (at least). Niko doesn't really have many accolades. Once again, device edges him out. 4) Your point about ratings against Top5, Top10, etc is correct. However, I am not sure of that will be enough to overcome the first three points I mentioned. Overall, it still heavily favours device. That being said, I respect your opinion. Have a nice day :)

he kinda made big clan dominant in summer definately deserved top 20, for example even i can have good stats it doesnt matter if i just play against NA players who ranked gold nova.

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Well for 2019 yhea, the case for dev1ce to me was stronger considering the huge map difference between them against top 5/top 10 oponents. If we consider playoff ratings that year, dev1ce has 1.19 in 52 maps against s1mple's 1.24 in 28 maps : hltv.org/forums/threads/2214842/bigevent.. ZywOo had 1.34 rating O_o ? I knew he had better stats in playoffs and finals but that's 0.04 above his rating against lower opposition that year.

"I dont think that stats like pistol round rating are even worth to mention" wtfdym it's extremely valuable

Did you even read my comment? Reread it and come back to me

No, my friend :) Humber98 is right in pointing out that HLTV Stats TopX filter is not the case of either of the teams being TopX. What it is, is yet unclear, since both the teams being in TopX should have far lesser maps, logically speaking (as you have yourself noticed). However, that is not the point of this thread. This thread was to offer a concrete proof that "Featured Ratings" tell us the player's rating *against* TopX teams, and not the HLTV TopX filter. Striker and Prof confirmed that it is true. Also, #179 , #216 , #299 prove beyond doubt (being from 2020's HLTV Rankings directly) that it is indeed "Featured Ratings" that represent the player's performance against TopX teams. PS: Have a nice day :)

How interesting^^ But I think our ropz fanboy did take into account the number of rounds played. I don't know whether he used it for specifics like the one you were talking with but he's not on his first rodeo. Kinda weird that the data provided only takes into account MVP worthy tournaments has that much of a gap between what he found and what our ropz fan found ( I mean he can't be wrong on this, he did it last year too flawlessly and here we don't concerns over filters as he is directly taking rating from games of playoffs themselves and put it into an average ~ -/+0.01. The only thing we found similar is that he leads in rating betwing 0.03 and 0.06 depending on the average is about, if it would have been higher than 0.06 then I guess there would have been a problem. I have to double check this but y0fl0w so I think his stats are correct, he didn't include RMR tournaments as they were not MVP worthy and finds very different results. Not including tournaments who are not MVP worthy should technically give an edge to s1mple I'd pressume since he had way lower ratings in these tournaments except for gamers without borders which doesn't make up for it. I'm trying to get a hold of y0fl0w in private message because knowning how he did the average will clear doubts. I mean his chart provides information on the number of rounds etc, so I don't think he's done any mistakes on that one.

But yhea we have to wait anyway. Still quite exciting trying to search for the leading numbers ahead of time, it just shows how impatient I am :D That was cool to know though. Thanks as always !

Thank you for the kind words! Have a nice day :)